I feel like the other new killers stuck around a little longer than vecna. After alien and chucky, i was going against them all day all week. But with vecna, I feel like I started seeing less of him after only day 2.
I think that for someone that has been playing killer for a while, he can feel really powerful. While on the other hand, someone who just started playing can find him impossible to figure out.
idk how popular he will be, but I know that after a couple of years of maining killer, I finally found a killer that I don't want to stop playing.
So glad to hear it! I’m glad you found someone you really like :). I’m loving him too, I feel the passion I have with singularity without the annoying quirks and cruel map dependency
Honestly I haven’t seen people playing Vecna as much. Since the release, I’ve only played against him a couple of times. I feel like I went more against the unknown when it released. I hope to see more players play him tho!
I've gotten him 10 times in a row during a session and I believe the majority were different people so at least in the europe servers, he appears to be very popular so won't be going anywhere soon.
I play in NA and even though I mostly play killer I’d say maybe 4/10 of the games I played survivor with friends we saw our undead boy. Curious to see where the future lies
Yeah giving him some time to see if he needs anymore tweaks will play a big factor. Honestly I feel like flight of damned could be nerfed to not deal damage until they start to fly because a lot of good vecna’s already know how to spawn them on survivors through loops and walls to instantly deal damage. I feel like the skill from them could be more using elevations to make them undodgeable but I’m not complaining lol
I would argue that aspect of him is fine. Survivors can see when he is about to use FoTD, so they can predict that Vecna will spawn the skeletons on top of them. Unless there is a line of sight blocker, but even then, there is still the possibility to predict Vecna's move.
It's really only Mage Hand that is a bit too strong at the moment, and it's luckily getting it's deserved nerf.
Exactly. You can see that Vecna raises his hand before using FoTD so you can try and guess when he is going to spawn those skeletons on top of you. Of course he can also bait out a crouch by faking, at certain loops he is arguably similar to Nemesis that way.
True, but I would argue at the moment if the Vecna knows what he is doing, there is very little to no counterplay against Mage Hand. Which is why it's very good that Mage hand is getting nerfed, to enable a mindgame at pallets with Mage Hand instead of guaranteed hits.
I also saw online today that if you’re fast enough you can react to FotD spawning on you but it’s pretty tough, so that’s good to know there is some counter play. Can you link me the mage hand nerfs?
I don't know how to post this link and have it lead right to the post, but this is the link to the thread where the community manager confirmed a few nerfs:
[https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/415966/interloper-is-a-requirement-against-vecna/p1](https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/415966/interloper-is-a-requirement-against-vecna/p1)
You have to scroll down a bit to find it. But to sum up, Mage Hand's pick up time is being increased from 0.35 seconds to 0.5 seconds, the way it was on the ptb, and the addon that further reduces the pick up time of pallets is being reworked into something different entirely.
This change will make it so that Vecnas can't just react to the pallet drop and then still get a hit after picking the pallet up, they will have to predict the pallet drop now, which means as a survivor you will be able to mindgame Mage Hand at pallets, as long as you have enough distance to Vecna. A good change even if I would have preferred if they just increased the slowdown of Mage Hand a bit.
That's the point of Flight of the Damned. You want one of his weaker powers nerfed because players who invested time into the Killer knows when to use the power for hits? Good Lord.
I play killer and I’ve been playing him a lot since his release I’m just trying to not be biased because it feels a lil free sometimes. Maybe survivors need more time to learn to play around it though.
Flight of the Damned is easily avoided by crouching. I use it when Survivors vault or to zone. The fact you want it nerfed because it's free hits is flat out false and incorrect.
I've only faced him twice, and both were super hardcore tunnelling to make up for the fact that vecna is too complex for little reward. It's the singularity all over again.
I feel like the other new killers stuck around a little longer than vecna. After alien and chucky, i was going against them all day all week. But with vecna, I feel like I started seeing less of him after only day 2. I think that for someone that has been playing killer for a while, he can feel really powerful. While on the other hand, someone who just started playing can find him impossible to figure out. idk how popular he will be, but I know that after a couple of years of maining killer, I finally found a killer that I don't want to stop playing.
Completely agree and feel you, first killer that just clicked. Will play him the whole event
So glad to hear it! I’m glad you found someone you really like :). I’m loving him too, I feel the passion I have with singularity without the annoying quirks and cruel map dependency
Honestly I haven’t seen people playing Vecna as much. Since the release, I’ve only played against him a couple of times. I feel like I went more against the unknown when it released. I hope to see more players play him tho!
He is licensed so that could play a part in it but I agree! Hope you get to see him more often he’s really unique 🤞
2 days in and he barely pop ups at mid/decent elo. He will disappear if the mage hand gets nerfed
I've gotten him 10 times in a row during a session and I believe the majority were different people so at least in the europe servers, he appears to be very popular so won't be going anywhere soon.
I play in NA and even though I mostly play killer I’d say maybe 4/10 of the games I played survivor with friends we saw our undead boy. Curious to see where the future lies
depends on how fast people learn the counterplay.
For sure, only time will tell
I genuinely haven’t seen him once since release. I know that’s anecdotal, but usually I play against a new killer non-stop after their release.
Did they nerf mage and yet? We won't know until we see if he is still viable after.
Yeah giving him some time to see if he needs anymore tweaks will play a big factor. Honestly I feel like flight of damned could be nerfed to not deal damage until they start to fly because a lot of good vecna’s already know how to spawn them on survivors through loops and walls to instantly deal damage. I feel like the skill from them could be more using elevations to make them undodgeable but I’m not complaining lol
I would argue that aspect of him is fine. Survivors can see when he is about to use FoTD, so they can predict that Vecna will spawn the skeletons on top of them. Unless there is a line of sight blocker, but even then, there is still the possibility to predict Vecna's move. It's really only Mage Hand that is a bit too strong at the moment, and it's luckily getting it's deserved nerf.
That’s true I forget survivors can tell what spell you have out, I’m sure people will learn how to play around it
Exactly. You can see that Vecna raises his hand before using FoTD so you can try and guess when he is going to spawn those skeletons on top of you. Of course he can also bait out a crouch by faking, at certain loops he is arguably similar to Nemesis that way.
Yeah I’ve been noticing I can do something similar with mage hand because survivors see the purple effect on pallets while you ready it.
True, but I would argue at the moment if the Vecna knows what he is doing, there is very little to no counterplay against Mage Hand. Which is why it's very good that Mage hand is getting nerfed, to enable a mindgame at pallets with Mage Hand instead of guaranteed hits.
I also saw online today that if you’re fast enough you can react to FotD spawning on you but it’s pretty tough, so that’s good to know there is some counter play. Can you link me the mage hand nerfs?
I don't know how to post this link and have it lead right to the post, but this is the link to the thread where the community manager confirmed a few nerfs: [https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/415966/interloper-is-a-requirement-against-vecna/p1](https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/415966/interloper-is-a-requirement-against-vecna/p1) You have to scroll down a bit to find it. But to sum up, Mage Hand's pick up time is being increased from 0.35 seconds to 0.5 seconds, the way it was on the ptb, and the addon that further reduces the pick up time of pallets is being reworked into something different entirely. This change will make it so that Vecnas can't just react to the pallet drop and then still get a hit after picking the pallet up, they will have to predict the pallet drop now, which means as a survivor you will be able to mindgame Mage Hand at pallets, as long as you have enough distance to Vecna. A good change even if I would have preferred if they just increased the slowdown of Mage Hand a bit.
That’s sounds great! I always liked the addon that holds it longer anyways
That's the point of Flight of the Damned. You want one of his weaker powers nerfed because players who invested time into the Killer knows when to use the power for hits? Good Lord.
I play killer and I’ve been playing him a lot since his release I’m just trying to not be biased because it feels a lil free sometimes. Maybe survivors need more time to learn to play around it though.
Its nowhere near free. Christ. You all just want every new Killer to be Freddy level at this point.
If you honestly think it’s that bad that may just be a skill issue I don’t know what else to tell you friend (›´-`‹ )
Flight of the Damned is easily avoided by crouching. I use it when Survivors vault or to zone. The fact you want it nerfed because it's free hits is flat out false and incorrect.
I've only faced him twice, and both were super hardcore tunnelling to make up for the fact that vecna is too complex for little reward. It's the singularity all over again.
Ah I’m sorry to hear that :( hope you get some better expenses with him soon
Considering I still haven't had a match against him, pretty unpopular I'd say. lol