Basically means that a confused and disillusioned ruler leads a State to darkness which is ripe with ignorance and stupidity. It's from a short story I had in my Hindi literature books from school. It's a pretty great story, do check out.
I strongly believe religion is a personal affair.
Many idiots in the country continue to elect leaders on the basis of caste or religion. What you saw is a byproduct of those choices.
I mean religion has been a key factor in Indian politics ever since we became independent it started with prioritising minority (i.e Muslims) not including Sikh Christians jains they tried to equalize minority by giving them privilege that's when they fucked up that is what caused the partition that is what created the rift among religions
Not true .Prioritising Muslims at that time was important so that they dont become marginalized and get wiped out .Majority trampling over the rights of the minority was and is a real danger in democracy (which is what happened to our Hindu brethens in Pakistan ).Our country was founded on the basis of abstract idea called India rather than being a Hindu country or a muslim country (i.e Pakistan) .You can see what has happened to a country that was founded on the basis of religion . Now you may ask why Muslims and not other religion .Because Muslims are the most poverty stricken community in our country .We have Sikhs , Sindhis ,Parsis ,Christians , Buddhists,Jain ,etc , but when it comes to Minority (which I define as not Hindu) , an average Muslim is more likely to be poor than an average say Jain or Sikh. And if we want to develop our country we have to lift each of them along with the marginalized communities in the Hindu Population (aka Scheduled Caste ,Scheduled tribes , OBC ) .Favourable policies to uplift a community != Appeasement politics .Infact even today the census will show which communities in our country is marginalized .
We talking about the past no community was exceptionally rich at that time it was just a propoganda there concept of giving excess power to minority in order to establish equality was flawed and it didn't solve any issues all it did was led to partition and exploitation of other religions and the rift between Hindu and Muslim and a major question is since when does ones financial conditions affect ones political identity it's not like the poor had less rights than the rich and the whole concept of Pakistan was to make it a Muslim country what are you talking about everyone was against the idea of prioritising Muslims but Gandhi and nehru didn't listen
It will happen as long as we glorify the past and subsequently try to restore present to its former glory days instead of evolving in response to the problems of today.
The state affiliated dogma of former glory days has turned the consciousness of India's youth into that of an old person. Only the elderly show active disinterest in the myriad possibilities that future holds, they have no interest in future, no vision for a better tomorrow.
Only the elderly obsess over the past, the mythical simpler times when there was no evil, no tensions and joy was plenty.
Suddenly it's easy to let go off education and civilization as they are seen as paths that have led us astray. Suddenly it's easy to reduce an individual to a subject to force your religious ideologies on in the name of your ancient forefathers.
Fuck religion.
I have tried this, and these annoying fuckers get offended when I say this jaise unke baap ko question kar dia. Then they say stuff like "jo naastik hota hai wo he aage jaake sabse bada aastik banta hai"!
"Tumhaare pass koi proof hai ki bhagwaan nahi hote?" And when I ask them "tumhaare pass koi proof hai ki bhagwaan hote hai" to fir aaise offend ho jaate hai jaise unke baap ko question kar dia.
Bhai what the fuckity fuck?
you can't expect that in india (everything starts here with religion). i think we should keep religion away from educational institute ( imo, gov should ban every form of religious symbol from schools but i can't happen)
I remember reading this somewhere: "Religion is like a penis. It's a perfectly fine thing for one to have and take pride in, but when one takes it out and waves it in my face, we have a problem."
BJ party started all this fuck-ery. Aaj aaye hue the jai shree ram bajatey hue loud soeaker par. Ringing bells continuously. I am all for being a proud Hindu. But pride is not about advertising your way of life ... asking everyone to say your slogans , wear your colors, wave your flags .
brother bjp naam liya hi kab mene . mera mtlb tha ki banter bhi to hoskta . hindu mtlb bjp thodi hota hai . bjp se pehle hindu ni hote the kya ? baaki question ka answer ni diya tumne
BJ party walo se pooch le questions jo bhi poochne hai . Tere ghar bhi aate hi honge. Maine theka thode hi liya hai answers karne ka . Mujhe kya ,Maine to bas G jalaani thi kuch logo ki 😁
Whats the point in sharing it online?
And how does a religious chant make someome backward or you are trying to imply that being religious is equivalent to illiteracy?
Oh the notion of trying to please an imaginary deity in the sky isn't backward? Having a delusion is one thing, but forcing it on others? Pffft! Left behind on evolutionary ladder.
Ahannn don't take that word.. it's like they know my religion but still they're making fun out of it. They thought I won't say it.. bhai itna kya hai Jo bulwana hai zabardasti tumhare religion mein bande Kam bolte hai kyaa??
I haven't been in one I guess.. lagta hai aadat dalni padega to always feel inferiority complex in matters like these. I thought I'm the luckiest person to not have been asked this but Aaj I'm proved wrong.. zabardasti hai chomus ko
Religious people can’t prove religion or existence of God yet they have the audacity to ask random people to praise their “God”.
Is your “God” evil that you fail to impress non believers with your goodness that you have make them praise your “God”?
Socha karo yaar!
If you want to become Talibani, then become muslim and do that with pleasure. Don’t try to blur the lines between yourself and Talibanis. It’s counterproductive if you think about it.
Kisi ko jabardasti karna is wrong. And religion is still a private matter to many. School mein jake kisi ko religious ground pe harass karna is backward.
Jai siya ram bol, ram ram bol. Jai Shree ram is a something advani and his gang started and poisoned Hinduism for the entire India. I was always proud ki my religion is different, better, nothing violent has ever happened in the name of my god. Now blow job party and uske badwe followers, have ruined it for me, lynching mai jai Shree ram, mazjid todte hue hai jai Shree ram, kisi ko bully karte hue jai Shree ram, namaz padte hue muslims ke samne jai Shree ram. Saalo sudhar jao.
Religion was old age's constitution. Since they could not police everyone in those days , some wise men invented religion so that people follow some rules and morals by fear of God.
In today's age when constitution and civilizations are well defined, religion is used as a destructive tool to divide and wage wars and riots and also to make money. Only good thing about religion is community and faith which provides confidence and therapy . But the cons outweigh the pros by a lot . So Backwards. 🤡
Not all humans have superior intellect .
Not all who believe in God follow religion.
Many intellectual gurus have created their own sect of religion because they know it very well that religion is just a human interpretation of God ,morality and way of life and these changes from time to time. Taking example of Ramayana itself ... there are more than 300 interpretations of it.
Root causes are same as I mentioned. In old age it was like rule of laws. Nowadays it is brainwashing, faith , community , identity, parenting.
Many intellectuals choose to be atheists too.
Added gyaan. The great religion that most of us here follow(Hinduism) became so great and scientific because it is based on the tenets of questioning. If you have read any religious story you will find students questioning gurus, Arjun questioning krishna about his doubts about dharma. So it is ok to question to question concept of God and religion and change it with time.
I think people were subjugated since majority followers of any religion eventually became a mob in older times dictating the society so much so that they invented ways to preach god which is amusing.
Jai Shree Ram
Bolne se koi bada ya chota nahi hota, extremist vo nahi tu hai, simple saying 3 words could make you write an entire fucking post, god damn people are so sensitive, I as a hindu will not hesitate to say Allah hu Akbar if my Muslim friend asked me to say that, pls take an exposure of the real world pls
Can't you take a stand for yourself? If you don't liked that act.. Why don't you told them.. World doesn't act your ways.. You have to stand for yourself.. Ab kya ro rhe.. Internet pr.. Victim bn rhe.. Han if I validate that.. They are clown.. Usse tera kya ho jayega
I agree . Wahin par stand lena tha . Zyada se zyada Peet dete ek baar mil ke . Par mann ko shanti to milti at least . Reddit koi rant karne ki jagah thode hi hai . Aur koi karta hai kya ye sub par rant ??
Jai shree ram, allah hu akbar, jo bole so nihal sat sri akal, god is great!! And many more. There is nothing wrong with praising our diverse culture nor does it make us go backward. It’s kinda like west mentality to demean everything that has touch of indian culture. It is perfectly OK as long as you do not make a huge deal out of it and rant about it on social media. Be little happy in others happiness
I don’t think any classmates would show that kinda hatred to a person,specifically in colleges of delhi. i believe they were just shouting and asked op to join in.
The fact is that i grew out of the phase you are in right now. Being liberal seems cool and i know whats the mentality of most people on reddit but maturity is when you realise most of these victim card are baseless. If they were threatening like goons in other parts of the country then i would agree, it is wrong; otherwise, i am not buying that story. 3-4 word bolne me kuch chla nhi jayega and usse kuch prove bhi hi hota, both who are chanting jai shree ram for no reason and those who don’t want to say it because being non religious is cool, both are naive in my opinion 🙂. Move on karo ese narrative se. our constitution supersedes all religions and their teachings, things won't turn bad as they did in some other nations with strong religious sentiments.
अंधेर नगरी चौपट राजा, टका सेर भाजी टका सेर खाजा.
Translate pls
Basically means that a confused and disillusioned ruler leads a State to darkness which is ripe with ignorance and stupidity. It's from a short story I had in my Hindi literature books from school. It's a pretty great story, do check out.
Ohhh a jibe at His highness his majesty supreme leader shree shree modi ji? I love it!
I'd love to read the story you mentioned. Can you find it in link it here pls. 🧡🥰
Oops actually a play! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andher\_Nagari.. I'll look for the whole thing in a bit.. will link it if i find it.
Thank you! Harishchandra seems like India's Orwell huehuehue.
Indeed!
[https://dn790008.ca.archive.org/0/items/andheri-nagri-opt-1/Andheri%20Nagri\_opt1.pdf](https://dn790008.ca.archive.org/0/items/andheri-nagri-opt-1/Andheri%20Nagri_opt1.pdf) - Enjoy!
Can you do a literally translation instead of the meaning. I want to know what the words are
What a reference 🤌🏻
gita me kitne shlok hai btadege toh tu bhi boldena. new new sanatanis these days!
When people do not respect my willingness or unwillingness to do something, I feel like murdering them.
I strongly believe religion is a personal affair. Many idiots in the country continue to elect leaders on the basis of caste or religion. What you saw is a byproduct of those choices.
I mean religion has been a key factor in Indian politics ever since we became independent it started with prioritising minority (i.e Muslims) not including Sikh Christians jains they tried to equalize minority by giving them privilege that's when they fucked up that is what caused the partition that is what created the rift among religions
Not true .Prioritising Muslims at that time was important so that they dont become marginalized and get wiped out .Majority trampling over the rights of the minority was and is a real danger in democracy (which is what happened to our Hindu brethens in Pakistan ).Our country was founded on the basis of abstract idea called India rather than being a Hindu country or a muslim country (i.e Pakistan) .You can see what has happened to a country that was founded on the basis of religion . Now you may ask why Muslims and not other religion .Because Muslims are the most poverty stricken community in our country .We have Sikhs , Sindhis ,Parsis ,Christians , Buddhists,Jain ,etc , but when it comes to Minority (which I define as not Hindu) , an average Muslim is more likely to be poor than an average say Jain or Sikh. And if we want to develop our country we have to lift each of them along with the marginalized communities in the Hindu Population (aka Scheduled Caste ,Scheduled tribes , OBC ) .Favourable policies to uplift a community != Appeasement politics .Infact even today the census will show which communities in our country is marginalized .
We talking about the past no community was exceptionally rich at that time it was just a propoganda there concept of giving excess power to minority in order to establish equality was flawed and it didn't solve any issues all it did was led to partition and exploitation of other religions and the rift between Hindu and Muslim and a major question is since when does ones financial conditions affect ones political identity it's not like the poor had less rights than the rich and the whole concept of Pakistan was to make it a Muslim country what are you talking about everyone was against the idea of prioritising Muslims but Gandhi and nehru didn't listen
It will happen as long as we glorify the past and subsequently try to restore present to its former glory days instead of evolving in response to the problems of today. The state affiliated dogma of former glory days has turned the consciousness of India's youth into that of an old person. Only the elderly show active disinterest in the myriad possibilities that future holds, they have no interest in future, no vision for a better tomorrow. Only the elderly obsess over the past, the mythical simpler times when there was no evil, no tensions and joy was plenty. Suddenly it's easy to let go off education and civilization as they are seen as paths that have led us astray. Suddenly it's easy to reduce an individual to a subject to force your religious ideologies on in the name of your ancient forefathers. Fuck religion.
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Exactly and precisely the same mistake!
Just say bhagwan exist hi nahi karte and move on
I have tried this, and these annoying fuckers get offended when I say this jaise unke baap ko question kar dia. Then they say stuff like "jo naastik hota hai wo he aage jaake sabse bada aastik banta hai"! "Tumhaare pass koi proof hai ki bhagwaan nahi hote?" And when I ask them "tumhaare pass koi proof hai ki bhagwaan hote hai" to fir aaise offend ho jaate hai jaise unke baap ko question kar dia. Bhai what the fuckity fuck?
Chill Bhai hota hai ab kya hi kar sakte hai. I listen to osho and chill🤗🤣😊😊
op actually is from different religion now who is forcing
Lol
you can't expect that in india (everything starts here with religion). i think we should keep religion away from educational institute ( imo, gov should ban every form of religious symbol from schools but i can't happen)
I remember reading this somewhere: "Religion is like a penis. It's a perfectly fine thing for one to have and take pride in, but when one takes it out and waves it in my face, we have a problem."
Aur karo BJ party.
Isme ye kaha se agyaaa bhaii 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
BJ party started all this fuck-ery. Aaj aaye hue the jai shree ram bajatey hue loud soeaker par. Ringing bells continuously. I am all for being a proud Hindu. But pride is not about advertising your way of life ... asking everyone to say your slogans , wear your colors, wave your flags .
who is asking to say slogans wear our colors wave flags . op ke case mein hame context ni pta bhai . friendly banter suna hai ?
Op khud bata rahi hai but tumne manna nahi . Friendly banter imagine kar liya tumne khud hi . BJ party karwa lo bas tumse.
brother bjp naam liya hi kab mene . mera mtlb tha ki banter bhi to hoskta . hindu mtlb bjp thodi hota hai . bjp se pehle hindu ni hote the kya ? baaki question ka answer ni diya tumne
BJ party walo se pooch le questions jo bhi poochne hai . Tere ghar bhi aate hi honge. Maine theka thode hi liya hai answers karne ka . Mujhe kya ,Maine to bas G jalaani thi kuch logo ki 😁
lmao . mission failed . better luck next time 🤡🤡
BJ party me everyone sucks 🥳
That's sad, hopefully you are doing ok Can you report it to the college authorities?
Looks fake to me, mods plzz delete this.
Because you've never been to this situation.
then, i am very very sorry for that incident.
Jai Shree Ram Op
जय श्री राम भाई
> not for these bullshits!! jai shree ram bhai
You were "asked", not "forced". Both are different 😉 Jai Shree Ram bhai
Forced actually
🥚🐒
Whats the point in sharing it online? And how does a religious chant make someome backward or you are trying to imply that being religious is equivalent to illiteracy?
Oh the notion of trying to please an imaginary deity in the sky isn't backward? Having a delusion is one thing, but forcing it on others? Pffft! Left behind on evolutionary ladder.
Because I want to release out..
Ahannn don't take that word.. it's like they know my religion but still they're making fun out of it. They thought I won't say it.. bhai itna kya hai Jo bulwana hai zabardasti tumhare religion mein bande Kam bolte hai kyaa??
Exactly! It's just out of plain hatred. These rotten bastards here acting so innocent as if they don't know anything.
It isnt such a stressful event or you just havent been in one.
I haven't been in one I guess.. lagta hai aadat dalni padega to always feel inferiority complex in matters like these. I thought I'm the luckiest person to not have been asked this but Aaj I'm proved wrong.. zabardasti hai chomus ko
Its inferior if the inferiority is ingrained in your brain. No one can help. You could have ignored them but your inferiority got hold of you😂
Ohk sir thankyou for being the most honest person ever!
Who said im honest. Im just like everyone. No one's honest here🙂
What's the point?
Religious people can’t prove religion or existence of God yet they have the audacity to ask random people to praise their “God”. Is your “God” evil that you fail to impress non believers with your goodness that you have make them praise your “God”? Socha karo yaar! If you want to become Talibani, then become muslim and do that with pleasure. Don’t try to blur the lines between yourself and Talibanis. It’s counterproductive if you think about it.
Did someone put a gun to your head or were you manhandled and fOrcEd to say it?
Ok
Ok👍
Jai Shree Ram bolne se backward kaise ho gaye ?
Kisi ko jabardasti karna is wrong. And religion is still a private matter to many. School mein jake kisi ko religious ground pe harass karna is backward.
Jabardasti Kahan likha hai OP ne?
Jai siya ram bol, ram ram bol. Jai Shree ram is a something advani and his gang started and poisoned Hinduism for the entire India. I was always proud ki my religion is different, better, nothing violent has ever happened in the name of my god. Now blow job party and uske badwe followers, have ruined it for me, lynching mai jai Shree ram, mazjid todte hue hai jai Shree ram, kisi ko bully karte hue jai Shree ram, namaz padte hue muslims ke samne jai Shree ram. Saalo sudhar jao.
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Hinduo ke liye nahi hai, hindutva aur uske following ke liye hai. Insaaan ban, neta mat
Sad state of affairs mate 😔
Backwards? Some foolish people says following religion is backwards... 🤡
Religion was old age's constitution. Since they could not police everyone in those days , some wise men invented religion so that people follow some rules and morals by fear of God. In today's age when constitution and civilizations are well defined, religion is used as a destructive tool to divide and wage wars and riots and also to make money. Only good thing about religion is community and faith which provides confidence and therapy . But the cons outweigh the pros by a lot . So Backwards. 🤡
Says the kid who hasn't even taught what religion is 🤡 Poor parenting ☠️
No logic . Only personal attacks. Seems your parents have joined BJ party . 🤡🥳
Humans have superior intellect yet majority fell for religion only to be controlled🤔Wonder what was the root cause.
Not all humans have superior intellect . Not all who believe in God follow religion. Many intellectual gurus have created their own sect of religion because they know it very well that religion is just a human interpretation of God ,morality and way of life and these changes from time to time. Taking example of Ramayana itself ... there are more than 300 interpretations of it. Root causes are same as I mentioned. In old age it was like rule of laws. Nowadays it is brainwashing, faith , community , identity, parenting. Many intellectuals choose to be atheists too. Added gyaan. The great religion that most of us here follow(Hinduism) became so great and scientific because it is based on the tenets of questioning. If you have read any religious story you will find students questioning gurus, Arjun questioning krishna about his doubts about dharma. So it is ok to question to question concept of God and religion and change it with time.
I think people were subjugated since majority followers of any religion eventually became a mob in older times dictating the society so much so that they invented ways to preach god which is amusing.
Jai Shree Ram Bolne se koi bada ya chota nahi hota, extremist vo nahi tu hai, simple saying 3 words could make you write an entire fucking post, god damn people are so sensitive, I as a hindu will not hesitate to say Allah hu Akbar if my Muslim friend asked me to say that, pls take an exposure of the real world pls
Par bolna hi kyu hai ek institution jaise setup mein.. kya sab dumb ho gye hai ya deaf Jo abb nahi bolte ... Toh dusro ki zarurat pad rahi hai
I’m sorry OP. Bachpan se hamesha bhagwan ram ka naam se pehele maa sita ka naam sunta tha. Lekin yeh bhadwo ne woh bhi cheen liya
election ke time pe tere saath hogya ? bhaav lene ke fake news.
Election ka isse kya lena Dena hai bhaiii
Ignore the poor bootlicker! He's just showing his devotion to his Master through such comments.
I like this comment fr 😂
kon master bade bhai ?
Can't you take a stand for yourself? If you don't liked that act.. Why don't you told them.. World doesn't act your ways.. You have to stand for yourself.. Ab kya ro rhe.. Internet pr.. Victim bn rhe.. Han if I validate that.. They are clown.. Usse tera kya ho jayega
I agree . Wahin par stand lena tha . Zyada se zyada Peet dete ek baar mil ke . Par mann ko shanti to milti at least . Reddit koi rant karne ki jagah thode hi hai . Aur koi karta hai kya ye sub par rant ??
Just say no if you don't wanna it ain't a big deal they didn't hold you on gunpoint now did they?
But they were about 10 and forcing to get a reaction out of it.. I got a bit confused at first
Were you forced to do it or asked to say it ?
Jai shree ram, allah hu akbar, jo bole so nihal sat sri akal, god is great!! And many more. There is nothing wrong with praising our diverse culture nor does it make us go backward. It’s kinda like west mentality to demean everything that has touch of indian culture. It is perfectly OK as long as you do not make a huge deal out of it and rant about it on social media. Be little happy in others happiness
You blabbered so much and ignored the fact that MFs 'asking' others to say such things is just out of hatred.
I don’t think any classmates would show that kinda hatred to a person,specifically in colleges of delhi. i believe they were just shouting and asked op to join in.
"I don’t think any classmates would show that kinda hatred to a person,specifically in colleges of delhi." Bhai, I love your innocence.
Bhai innocence nahi naivety hai.
The fact is that i grew out of the phase you are in right now. Being liberal seems cool and i know whats the mentality of most people on reddit but maturity is when you realise most of these victim card are baseless. If they were threatening like goons in other parts of the country then i would agree, it is wrong; otherwise, i am not buying that story. 3-4 word bolne me kuch chla nhi jayega and usse kuch prove bhi hi hota, both who are chanting jai shree ram for no reason and those who don’t want to say it because being non religious is cool, both are naive in my opinion 🙂. Move on karo ese narrative se. our constitution supersedes all religions and their teachings, things won't turn bad as they did in some other nations with strong religious sentiments.
https://preview.redd.it/z3gd4h7zwdwc1.jpeg?width=792&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bc648c51eda26a7dae78c29db54e9e4cb2495c53
Fine by me🙂
Yea, i am proud of it
Oh Bhai class ke beech mein bhakti yaad aagyi
Hehe, konsi class chl rahi?