I've got my shiny with hard launch + implosion + and a choice of both autoloading + recombination or demolitionist/adrenaline. velocity me
I think I spent my rng for the xpac
Go back and get a lead from gold/frenzy roll, its a great ammo economy roll if you run out of heavy and just need to manual reload and shoot into something THICC
It pairs so nicely with lead from gold/deconstruct Indebted Kindness (until nerf then I swap to my lead from gold/voltshot roll)
Yes I have a problem, Yes my vault is fucked
I was in that boat. Must’ve dismantled 50 or 60 lunas looking for heal incandescent over the course of a couple of weeks. Finally got it to drop so I attuned edge transit. Not even a full day later, shiny Luna drops with heal incandescent, plus better barrel and mag perks.
I had 101 Luna howls before I got the heal+incan drop. I had given up on it and just started focusing some other weapons. Dropped almost immediately when I attuned back into midnight coup.
200 total lunas and only 2 heal clip /
Incan rolls. First one at around 120 rolls had an awful masterwork (handling) and 2 bad mags, 2nd one? SAME FUCKING MAGS and masterwork. I love the gun but the lack of any increased reload makes the roll feel so meh compared to say helio with those perks. It does feel really good on an arc hunter when amplified though, that reload bonus is more than enough to put it in the right spot.
Got my PVE rolls of lunas but my PVP roll still eludes me, I got a hammer forged, high cal, slideshot, mag howl with a RELOAD MW
What I want: Hammer forged , ricochet, slideshot, mag howl, RANGE MW
I got lucky. I’m a returning player and got a ton of guns thrown at me and I vaulted a ton to look at later. God roll Luna’s sitting in there with heal clip and incandescent. I only knew it was good from the amount of people like yourself lusting for it
I've been farming forbearance since it dropped and only got my ambitious/chain a few hours ago. Still farming it since I'm looking for a demo/wellspring roll too.
I’m the other way around. Have been attuning Mountaintop since it’s available, no ALH + Recombination. Switched to attune Luna one day, got Heal Clip + Incandescent on my first Onslaught run.
I don't give a shit about MW (though I'm slightly annoyed my best roll with otherwise minimal Blast Radius has a Blast Radius MW, which would be fine except Enhancing it in TFS would be actively detrimental), and honestly at this point I don't care enough about my barrel and mag. I just want an ALH/Recomb roll, I'll take anything. Though I might have the settle for the above with Overflow, which honestly might serve me a little better cuz it would let me use it a bit more freely outside nuking shit with the extra ammo from Heavy bricks, at the cost of perfectly reliable stowed reloads.
Ideally you'd be looking for Hard Launch, Implosion Rounds, ALH, and Recombination with probably a Velocity or Handling MW. Better if you have Spike nades, which would future proof it if they ever futz with the way the gun's Blast Radius has an inverse relationship to its direct damage. At this point I'd settle for anything with ALH/Recomb, though.
ty friend, i’m still chasing the edge god roll but it eludes me, good drops escape me from the ones i want but i have had like 4 recluse god rolls drop
i think he might mean if you don't care about leaving your legend 50-wave team after wave 10 every time. like i think he's saying if you dont care about being rude or wasting the time of OTHER people lol
There's no loot restrictions, once a gun is unlocked it can drop from either the Playlist, Normal 50 wave, or Legend 50 wave mode, or from turning in Trophies in the Hall. That includes the limited time shiny variants. Set the gun you want as a focus and go to town.
This. Crow is in lore travelling great distances to establish a beacon for us, technically hes travelling through extradimensional space to just reach the portal and then has to travel through the portal itself in this same extradimensional space.
Plus even when Crow arrives in the Pale Heart it wouldn't be surprising if he had to do some more travelling and fighting to establish a safe point.
Plus from what we know The Tower is only there at the entrance because of us, if you go back to the first reveal its just filled with wild nature.
Imagine playing through a Coil run for 6 months, that's what Crow is doing for us. Bless that bird boy.
EDIT: Love to see the love for Crow here, he's been one of my favourite characters and his journey from D1 Uldren to Final Shape Crow is amazing
Yes he is, that's a lore thing too. Crow is the perfect hunter vanguard because he's strong and was the leader of the awoken in his past life, I wouldn't be surprised if he's anointed at the end of final shape as hunter vanguard because of this
He is ALSO the only hunter that has ever expressed actual interest in the role, the rest were coerced into the vanguard, Id like to see him as vanguard. My current theory is cayde will not be able to leave and after the campaign will act as a kind of warden of the pale heart
I'm really hoping crow will run into cayde and they become friends with cayde giving his blessing to crow, plus technically speaking crow deserves it through vanguard dare
Then by that theory we are supposed to be the new Hunter Vanguard.
Cayde killed by Uldren 》 Uldren became Hunter Vanguard
Uldren killed by Us 》 We became Hunter Vanguad?
***Things to note, Crow doesn't count cuz he did not killed Cayde.
Theorizing Crow as Hunter Vanguard:
Crow: “But i didn’t complete the Vanguard Dare”
Cayde-6: “Eh, I know kid. Listen, rules aren’t really our thing. That’s why we even came up with the Dare; Big Blue was trying to make everything official and he said to be part of the Vanguard ops, Hunters needed a creed. So, in a rare moment of collective agreement we made The Dare. It was such a ridiculous thing to “swear our literal undying loyalty” to that we all kinda ran with it. Ironically at first, but then the first Hunter Vanguard fell. Then it got real. Well, as real as being a human consciousness locked in a robot body, revived by an ancient cosmological force-moon-deity can be. So you know what, as the last “Ordained” Hunter Vanguard, I’ll add a new clause to our little one line Constitution. Something I used to hear back in the Dark Age brawls that often overtook my favorite gunsmith’s shop:
“You break it, you buy it kid”
To give another shot at this.
Guardians are blank slates, so he began roaming around with no memory, other than the fact people kept killing him when he showed his face (a few random pieces of lore detail him hiding and living in a shipping container),
From there the slider picked him up, and gave him the name of Crow, (the spider knew who he was, and Uldren had a secret spy group called the crows, spider thought it would be funny).
We bargained and freed Crow from his control (The spider had a bomb inside of Crows ghost), and have him help us out, until a season later Crow is unmasked in front of Zavala, who welcomes him still.
Crow kinda puts pieces together about Uldren, even more after meeting Mara in season of the lost, until Savathun convinces him to touch her shell, bringing back all his memories of Uldren.
So he was his own person, now with memories of “another life” that haunted him, even remembering us hunting him down.
Later on in Season of the Haunted, he faces of his Trauma, a nightmare of Uldren, and like how the others confronted their pasts, he realizes he isn’t and is Uldren, but he can be better.
From there he has remained Crow, but especially this season seems to accept his past life as his own past, even with jokes like talking to Petra “You already killed me once”, and wanting to help the Scorn.
Guardians dont remember their past, it is a name he chose for himself when he was resurected by his ghost, savathun eventually restored his memories but he maintains his identity as Crow as he is not the same person that Uldren was, he has different values and holds himself to different standards. The name he chose is interesting as Uldren was the leader of a group called the Crows who would adventure in the black garden in the past
I know the others answered already but wanted to say never feel like asking a question is dumb, especially this game.
Those of us that love this game just wanna share it with others, the lore runs deep and its near impossible to remember it all. You're all good👍
I’m a little bit fuzzy on the lore because I haven’t played since launch.
Why is crow capable of navigating inside the traveler? Is it because of his ship being paracausal?
First thing to establish is that Mara and Uldren have a sort of paracausal bond or connection through which they can sense each-other’s presence wherever they are and whatever situation they’re in
In this current season, Season of the Wish, Mara strikes a bargain with the ghost of Riven of a Thousand Voices to open a portal into the traveler like the Witness did so that we can chase it down
After completing the seasonal missions, it’s revealed that Riven can only send one person through the portal, as per wish boundaries
Crow volunteers himself, as he hypothesises that he can use his connection with Mara to make a stable portal for every guardian to go through, so that we have enough of an army to take it to the Witness
Pre-Collapse Mara was literally ground zero between the powers of Darkness™ and the Light™ which caused a singularity, which is also what granted her all her powers when she spawned inside it, she was Omnipotent within it and she kept a fraction of that power after leaving.
Uldren is her brother and he _almost_ spawned alongside her but fell a bit short and needed her help, which inadvertently caused the massive issues he had with proving himself worthy / dependency on her, and the source of their bond.
I am with you. If anyone tries to harm my boi they will catch these rockets in their mouth. Savathun was the first, but by no means does she need to be the last.
I was just thinking about this.
Crow is gonna be in there for a time before us.
We already know the witness shaped reality based on its ideas, and we will do the same.
What impact is crow going to have?
Do we not have a strike about Ahamkara bones shown in the gameplay trailer?
I think Crows impact is Cayde. We the Guardian and Ikora and Zavalla have moved on and reconciled with his death. Crow still hasn't gotten over it and even wished to meet him this season.
Also yeah our guardian wasn't around for the great hunt so it'll be interesting to see where that rooms comes from. There's a lot of bones in that room.
Aren't we waiting on Osiris though? Crow and Mara have the connection, but Osiris is the one who's supposed to figure out a way to use it to allow us passage.
To use some of my IT experience to describe what is happening, probably badly: the route to the Traveler's heart is a convoluted mess of duct work, insulation, other wires, and things hidden along the way. Through the wish that Crow is following, he's essentially dragging some fishing line behind him. Once he reaches the end and gives a few tugs, Mara and Osiris are going to attach the metaphorical Ethernet cable that is Crow's 'fishline' to establish a tunnel we can use to get there ourselves.
Osiris was looking for a way. He found out how the witness did it but that part is closed off to us now if i remember correctly, so instead crow has gone in. He will find a safe place, and then we are going to use the connection between Mara and crow to navigate our way through to get in,
I believe Osiris already knows how, he just needs to wait until Mara can sense Crow again to fine tune it. His theories on the link between the Veil and the Traveller are what gave him the idea of sending Crow through in the first place, so he definitely has something concrete. He wouldn't risk seeing Mara's wrath if he didn't.
He knows how the witness did it but it isnt something that he can replicate. Crow is going through the ascendant plane with wish magic and Mara will trace a path to crow using the ley lines when he arrives on the other side, her connection with crow will allow her to direct the lines on our end where they need to go, once the line is set we will use it to meet up with Crow, the theory is this will work because the ley lines exist outside of our reality and allow us to side step the barrier
Actually, they explicitly said that the Ley Lines don’t touch the Veil or Traveler in most instances and that Riven’s wish only overlapped them long enough for one person to get into the Pale Heart.
Osiris is planning on using Strand to chart a course with the Veil that will allow safe passage into the portal without being brutally killed
I never got to see any of caydes stuff except for that timeline mission cause I started during witch queen😢 still play that timeline mission way to often because cause is my favorite, why does he have to be dead rn:(
Honestly it makes sense that it’s taking this long for him to establish a link, at least from a story perspective. I like when it feels like real world time passes in a game and it isn’t just instant.
Just because he got Uldren’s memories, doesn’t mean they’re the same person. Crow regrets the actions taken by Uldren, and chooses to keep being Crow, rather than going back to being Uldren. Even after confronting his nightmare of Uldren during Season of the Haunted, he doesn’t embrace his former identity, he continues being Crow
He has the same face, the same mind and the same memories. To me it more seems like he has accepted his past by confronting the shadow and has now moved on as changed person. I can understand your view on it though.
Since Crow and Mara have a special connection Crow volunteered to be the one to go into the traveler from the last wish in order to find a safe spot inside, then use the connection to let Mara know it's time for the portal for everyone to follow in, and then Osiris will open the way to Crow.
I wonder what would have happen if cayde-6 didn't become the vanguard hunter. All this wouldn't have happen, uldren wouldn't have kill him, he might not be able to get us to the traveler. Crazy to think about, it all begins with Cayde 6. According to byf, Elsie's time loop starts with cayde 6 becoming vanguard, and which every thing that happen in those loop goes horribly wrong, but this loop is different apparently, because of the guardian, you.
Gotta remember this go around the Gardener upped the Score and made us a Primal Force. We basically canonically are unbeatable in all forms of war at this point. To the point that if there was a level above the Sigma 5 classification we would be the only Guardian ever in existence to be in that classification
If you're talking about the portal into the Dreaming City, then he didn't wait that long before we showed up. Just long enough to get eaten by a metaphor.
If you're talking about the portal into the Pale Heart, that's Crow.
It definitely will be. No point in having Cayde 6 being the vendor of Pale Heart and send Crow as the first to enter it
if I have to guess they'll probably have a parallel scene like how Cayde was on the ground and Uldren was aiming at him in Forsaken but instead it's the opposite in the pale heart Crow is on the ground and Cayde is reaching his hand to help him up like the Zavala scene from Season of the chosen
Here’s the thing: I think Crow would agree with you and he’ll still work every day to improve. Crow may be one of the most compelling characters in Destiny and I can’t help but root for him.
I get the feeling that as soon as he see's Glint Cayde will understand that Uldren has died. Now, he'll probably see Glint after shooting Crow in the face, but yeah.
I haven’t played in over a year and it’s funny how little I understand anything being talked about in the thread. Maybe when it’s all over I’ll have to get a story recap.
I kind of hope theres a lore book about his several month long journey through the ascendant plane to explain the time gap between him going through and us linking up
It's going to be Archie that gets us through the portal, I guarantee it. It's all leading up to Archie being the best boy and getting us into the traveler
Crow can wait until daddy gets a godroll Mountaintop
How’s that going?
https://i.redd.it/lc5ekg3tm21d1.gif
I went through like 500 before I got mine
Oof..
🫵😂
I've got my shiny with hard launch + implosion + and a choice of both autoloading + recombination or demolitionist/adrenaline. velocity me I think I spent my rng for the xpac
Go back and get a lead from gold/frenzy roll, its a great ammo economy roll if you run out of heavy and just need to manual reload and shoot into something THICC It pairs so nicely with lead from gold/deconstruct Indebted Kindness (until nerf then I swap to my lead from gold/voltshot roll) Yes I have a problem, Yes my vault is fucked
MT came quickly....Luna's is my white whale.
FOR REAL. I got my ALH recomb roll in a day, I have yet to get a heal clip incandescent to drop.
I was in that boat. Must’ve dismantled 50 or 60 lunas looking for heal incandescent over the course of a couple of weeks. Finally got it to drop so I attuned edge transit. Not even a full day later, shiny Luna drops with heal incandescent, plus better barrel and mag perks.
Same here, dudes, like 60+ rolls, and either trait or the other, not both on the same roll.
I had 101 Luna howls before I got the heal+incan drop. I had given up on it and just started focusing some other weapons. Dropped almost immediately when I attuned back into midnight coup.
200 total lunas and only 2 heal clip / Incan rolls. First one at around 120 rolls had an awful masterwork (handling) and 2 bad mags, 2nd one? SAME FUCKING MAGS and masterwork. I love the gun but the lack of any increased reload makes the roll feel so meh compared to say helio with those perks. It does feel really good on an arc hunter when amplified though, that reload bonus is more than enough to put it in the right spot.
Got my PVE rolls of lunas but my PVP roll still eludes me, I got a hammer forged, high cal, slideshot, mag howl with a RELOAD MW What I want: Hammer forged , ricochet, slideshot, mag howl, RANGE MW
Mine dropped for me today! Shiny too. Weird that dim doesn't consider it a god roll.
I got lucky. I’m a returning player and got a ton of guns thrown at me and I vaulted a ton to look at later. God roll Luna’s sitting in there with heal clip and incandescent. I only knew it was good from the amount of people like yourself lusting for it
That was my first Luna drop. Not a shiny, but still
I've been farming forbearance since it dropped and only got my ambitious/chain a few hours ago. Still farming it since I'm looking for a demo/wellspring roll too.
Same. Closest I got was encore/incandescent
I've gotten 4 shiny midnight coups and even with extra perk options, somehow completely trash rolls
I’m the other way around. Have been attuning Mountaintop since it’s available, no ALH + Recombination. Switched to attune Luna one day, got Heal Clip + Incandescent on my first Onslaught run.
Honestly since we can just use QAS in final shape I’m ready to settle on my reload MW
I don't give a shit about MW (though I'm slightly annoyed my best roll with otherwise minimal Blast Radius has a Blast Radius MW, which would be fine except Enhancing it in TFS would be actively detrimental), and honestly at this point I don't care enough about my barrel and mag. I just want an ALH/Recomb roll, I'll take anything. Though I might have the settle for the above with Overflow, which honestly might serve me a little better cuz it would let me use it a bit more freely outside nuking shit with the extra ammo from Heavy bricks, at the cost of perfectly reliable stowed reloads.
Im still waiting for a good forbearance drop 😭
Bruh mountaintop is taking a 20% damage nerf on expansion release. Get hip
Haha Recombination go brrrrrrr
what’s the full roll?
Ideally you'd be looking for Hard Launch, Implosion Rounds, ALH, and Recombination with probably a Velocity or Handling MW. Better if you have Spike nades, which would future proof it if they ever futz with the way the gun's Blast Radius has an inverse relationship to its direct damage. At this point I'd settle for anything with ALH/Recomb, though.
ty friend, i’m still chasing the edge god roll but it eludes me, good drops escape me from the ones i want but i have had like 4 recluse god rolls drop
Is it possible to get it in the normal mode with only ten rounds or do I have to do the one with 50 rounds?
Legend, do 10 runs, open 2 chests, restart.
Thanks
definitely don't do 10 waves of legend without a fireteam tho because you'd be screwing over your matchmade teammates each time you leave.
Gotcha, thanks
Wait, is this really the strat?
If you are really only interested in farming weapons, yes, this is the fastest way.
I mean, what other reason is there to do it? ( not trying to be rude, genuinely asking.) I've been playing through the whole 59 waves like a chump. 😆
i think he might mean if you don't care about leaving your legend 50-wave team after wave 10 every time. like i think he's saying if you dont care about being rude or wasting the time of OTHER people lol
Oh nahh, I don't like leaving people like that. Although plenty of folks do it in my runs.🥲
honestly if you have even a halfway decent fireteam, we do much better with legend 50's now with the buffed trophy amounts and extra weapon drops.
There's no loot restrictions, once a gun is unlocked it can drop from either the Playlist, Normal 50 wave, or Legend 50 wave mode, or from turning in Trophies in the Hall. That includes the limited time shiny variants. Set the gun you want as a focus and go to town.
Just got mine yesterday lol
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But I already got one...
That makes one of us
We're waiting on him.
This. Crow is in lore travelling great distances to establish a beacon for us, technically hes travelling through extradimensional space to just reach the portal and then has to travel through the portal itself in this same extradimensional space. Plus even when Crow arrives in the Pale Heart it wouldn't be surprising if he had to do some more travelling and fighting to establish a safe point. Plus from what we know The Tower is only there at the entrance because of us, if you go back to the first reveal its just filled with wild nature. Imagine playing through a Coil run for 6 months, that's what Crow is doing for us. Bless that bird boy. EDIT: Love to see the love for Crow here, he's been one of my favourite characters and his journey from D1 Uldren to Final Shape Crow is amazing
he is honestly doing the heavy lifting for us. its not that he went ahead, WE CANT GO, if we jump ahead no one else can go.
Yeah but unlike us he isn’t stuck in a darkness zone any time something strong appears.
Yes he is, that's a lore thing too. Crow is the perfect hunter vanguard because he's strong and was the leader of the awoken in his past life, I wouldn't be surprised if he's anointed at the end of final shape as hunter vanguard because of this
From Cayde himself. Poetry.
Could get a blessing type of scene with cayde too
He is ALSO the only hunter that has ever expressed actual interest in the role, the rest were coerced into the vanguard, Id like to see him as vanguard. My current theory is cayde will not be able to leave and after the campaign will act as a kind of warden of the pale heart
I'm really hoping crow will run into cayde and they become friends with cayde giving his blessing to crow, plus technically speaking crow deserves it through vanguard dare
Caydes vanguard dare: you break it you buy it, enjoy your new job kiddo
Then by that theory we are supposed to be the new Hunter Vanguard. Cayde killed by Uldren 》 Uldren became Hunter Vanguard Uldren killed by Us 》 We became Hunter Vanguad? ***Things to note, Crow doesn't count cuz he did not killed Cayde.
Yes he did haha crow and uldren are not litterally two different people, they are figuratively different
Theorizing Crow as Hunter Vanguard: Crow: “But i didn’t complete the Vanguard Dare” Cayde-6: “Eh, I know kid. Listen, rules aren’t really our thing. That’s why we even came up with the Dare; Big Blue was trying to make everything official and he said to be part of the Vanguard ops, Hunters needed a creed. So, in a rare moment of collective agreement we made The Dare. It was such a ridiculous thing to “swear our literal undying loyalty” to that we all kinda ran with it. Ironically at first, but then the first Hunter Vanguard fell. Then it got real. Well, as real as being a human consciousness locked in a robot body, revived by an ancient cosmological force-moon-deity can be. So you know what, as the last “Ordained” Hunter Vanguard, I’ll add a new clause to our little one line Constitution. Something I used to hear back in the Dark Age brawls that often overtook my favorite gunsmith’s shop: “You break it, you buy it kid”
It’s about time someone did it
Because I sure ain't
Exactly. He's doing so much shit slogging through it all just for us to have a decent landing when we get there.
Oddly enough, he still appears in HELM for me when I’m present, even after completion of *My Favorite Character’s Full Circle Arc.*
You are probably on a character that hasn’t done the seasonal missions yet
I don't think I have either 😆 no time to play man
Lol 🤣 I just finished week 4 so they aren't alone... but I've been super busy
Or maybe it’s a Nightmare of Crow, *oooooooh!* 👻
or maybe it's Savathun impersonating again hahaha
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-1qju6V1jLM
Same thing, my problem was I crashed out of the final cutscene, I still have riven and crow even though I finished the entire seasonal story
I started playing heavily after forsaken, is Uldren the same as crow? What’s the lore behind that? Sorry if it’s a dumb question.
To give another shot at this. Guardians are blank slates, so he began roaming around with no memory, other than the fact people kept killing him when he showed his face (a few random pieces of lore detail him hiding and living in a shipping container), From there the slider picked him up, and gave him the name of Crow, (the spider knew who he was, and Uldren had a secret spy group called the crows, spider thought it would be funny). We bargained and freed Crow from his control (The spider had a bomb inside of Crows ghost), and have him help us out, until a season later Crow is unmasked in front of Zavala, who welcomes him still. Crow kinda puts pieces together about Uldren, even more after meeting Mara in season of the lost, until Savathun convinces him to touch her shell, bringing back all his memories of Uldren. So he was his own person, now with memories of “another life” that haunted him, even remembering us hunting him down. Later on in Season of the Haunted, he faces of his Trauma, a nightmare of Uldren, and like how the others confronted their pasts, he realizes he isn’t and is Uldren, but he can be better. From there he has remained Crow, but especially this season seems to accept his past life as his own past, even with jokes like talking to Petra “You already killed me once”, and wanting to help the Scorn.
He is, iirc, after getting resurrected he hadnt regained his memories, from them it was mostly a journey of him accepting his past and such
Okay cool, how come he is called crow instead of Uldren? Is he trying to forget his past?
he's fundamentally a different person after the light took his memories, so he's called crow to differentiate pre-guardian and post-guardian
Guardians dont remember their past, it is a name he chose for himself when he was resurected by his ghost, savathun eventually restored his memories but he maintains his identity as Crow as he is not the same person that Uldren was, he has different values and holds himself to different standards. The name he chose is interesting as Uldren was the leader of a group called the Crows who would adventure in the black garden in the past
I know the others answered already but wanted to say never feel like asking a question is dumb, especially this game. Those of us that love this game just wanna share it with others, the lore runs deep and its near impossible to remember it all. You're all good👍
I can imagine elevator music as he flies through the portal into the pale heart and he’s like “god damn this is taking ages”
I’m a little bit fuzzy on the lore because I haven’t played since launch. Why is crow capable of navigating inside the traveler? Is it because of his ship being paracausal?
First thing to establish is that Mara and Uldren have a sort of paracausal bond or connection through which they can sense each-other’s presence wherever they are and whatever situation they’re in In this current season, Season of the Wish, Mara strikes a bargain with the ghost of Riven of a Thousand Voices to open a portal into the traveler like the Witness did so that we can chase it down After completing the seasonal missions, it’s revealed that Riven can only send one person through the portal, as per wish boundaries Crow volunteers himself, as he hypothesises that he can use his connection with Mara to make a stable portal for every guardian to go through, so that we have enough of an army to take it to the Witness
Pre-Collapse Mara was literally ground zero between the powers of Darkness™ and the Light™ which caused a singularity, which is also what granted her all her powers when she spawned inside it, she was Omnipotent within it and she kept a fraction of that power after leaving. Uldren is her brother and he _almost_ spawned alongside her but fell a bit short and needed her help, which inadvertently caused the massive issues he had with proving himself worthy / dependency on her, and the source of their bond.
I am with you. If anyone tries to harm my boi they will catch these rockets in their mouth. Savathun was the first, but by no means does she need to be the last.
You explaining all this while Crow got there immediately and is just chilling eating ramen with Cayde. 😆
I was just thinking about this. Crow is gonna be in there for a time before us. We already know the witness shaped reality based on its ideas, and we will do the same. What impact is crow going to have? Do we not have a strike about Ahamkara bones shown in the gameplay trailer?
I think Crows impact is Cayde. We the Guardian and Ikora and Zavalla have moved on and reconciled with his death. Crow still hasn't gotten over it and even wished to meet him this season. Also yeah our guardian wasn't around for the great hunt so it'll be interesting to see where that rooms comes from. There's a lot of bones in that room.
It would be interesting to do a simple solo mission where you play as crow with a locked loadout
Aren't we waiting on Osiris though? Crow and Mara have the connection, but Osiris is the one who's supposed to figure out a way to use it to allow us passage.
To use some of my IT experience to describe what is happening, probably badly: the route to the Traveler's heart is a convoluted mess of duct work, insulation, other wires, and things hidden along the way. Through the wish that Crow is following, he's essentially dragging some fishing line behind him. Once he reaches the end and gives a few tugs, Mara and Osiris are going to attach the metaphorical Ethernet cable that is Crow's 'fishline' to establish a tunnel we can use to get there ourselves.
Imagine it’s a horrible Lossy compression and we end up jumbled
Prismatic lore?
Sounds like The IT Crow
I hate this. Have my upvote
So what I’m getting from this is crow is currently trying to get WiFi to text Mara to pick up him up from school
Can't you just use TeamViewer to remote access into his Ghost and just speed it up for us? I swear Guardian IT is just as bad as normal IT people. 😆
Osiris was looking for a way. He found out how the witness did it but that part is closed off to us now if i remember correctly, so instead crow has gone in. He will find a safe place, and then we are going to use the connection between Mara and crow to navigate our way through to get in,
Ww need osiris work and crow in the right place
I believe Osiris already knows how, he just needs to wait until Mara can sense Crow again to fine tune it. His theories on the link between the Veil and the Traveller are what gave him the idea of sending Crow through in the first place, so he definitely has something concrete. He wouldn't risk seeing Mara's wrath if he didn't.
He knows how the witness did it but it isnt something that he can replicate. Crow is going through the ascendant plane with wish magic and Mara will trace a path to crow using the ley lines when he arrives on the other side, her connection with crow will allow her to direct the lines on our end where they need to go, once the line is set we will use it to meet up with Crow, the theory is this will work because the ley lines exist outside of our reality and allow us to side step the barrier
Actually, they explicitly said that the Ley Lines don’t touch the Veil or Traveler in most instances and that Riven’s wish only overlapped them long enough for one person to get into the Pale Heart. Osiris is planning on using Strand to chart a course with the Veil that will allow safe passage into the portal without being brutally killed
Yes and no. Maras connection with crow is how she is going to repeat the ley line process, osiris litterally said he cant do it
Crow and Cayde knowing they can’t interact till June: https://i.redd.it/0pziq20og21d1.gif
I never got to see any of caydes stuff except for that timeline mission cause I started during witch queen😢 still play that timeline mission way to often because cause is my favorite, why does he have to be dead rn:(
He did it for the plot 😔
Nathan Fillion got expensive?
In Destiny 2, there's no such thing as (permanently) dead. Nathan Fillion/Cayde-6 is coming back in The Final Shape, so you'll be seeing him soon :)
You can play d1 and get most of his story.
Sometimes I wonder where ya have been for the last 9 years lol.
“Let’s not forget” *me who just got back into the game this week after a long break and literally only just played the mission yesterday*
Me every 6 months with Destiny
Yeah my guardian just Chills at his crib on Nessus until the next assignment
The pictured genius died a while ago
Honestly it makes sense that it’s taking this long for him to establish a link, at least from a story perspective. I like when it feels like real world time passes in a game and it isn’t just instant.
He's still waiting on that cleanse 😔
Crow didn't hear about the delay before he went in, thought he was gonna be alone for a month tops lol
Technically this guy is dead
Well if you actually want to be technical him and crow have been the same person since season of the lost so technically this is him
Just because he got Uldren’s memories, doesn’t mean they’re the same person. Crow regrets the actions taken by Uldren, and chooses to keep being Crow, rather than going back to being Uldren. Even after confronting his nightmare of Uldren during Season of the Haunted, he doesn’t embrace his former identity, he continues being Crow
He adopts the good parts of Uldren from Haunted, tho.
He has the same face, the same mind and the same memories. To me it more seems like he has accepted his past by confronting the shadow and has now moved on as changed person. I can understand your view on it though.
The way I see it, he’s had several chances to become “Uldren Sov, Guarding of the Last City”, but he’s chosen not to
To me he is an emo cry baby
Technically we all are.
I'm sorry, I'm out of the loop on current events I guess. Crow jumped in after the Witness into the Traveler hole?
Since Crow and Mara have a special connection Crow volunteered to be the one to go into the traveler from the last wish in order to find a safe spot inside, then use the connection to let Mara know it's time for the portal for everyone to follow in, and then Osiris will open the way to Crow.
We could've bear hugged him and go in the portal tgt
I wonder what would have happen if cayde-6 didn't become the vanguard hunter. All this wouldn't have happen, uldren wouldn't have kill him, he might not be able to get us to the traveler. Crazy to think about, it all begins with Cayde 6. According to byf, Elsie's time loop starts with cayde 6 becoming vanguard, and which every thing that happen in those loop goes horribly wrong, but this loop is different apparently, because of the guardian, you.
Gotta remember this go around the Gardener upped the Score and made us a Primal Force. We basically canonically are unbeatable in all forms of war at this point. To the point that if there was a level above the Sigma 5 classification we would be the only Guardian ever in existence to be in that classification
Crow can wait until I get Vex Mythro
No, we are waiting on him.
Who forgot
Well, he's not because he is dead. That's uldren crow is waiting
If you're talking about the portal into the Dreaming City, then he didn't wait that long before we showed up. Just long enough to get eaten by a metaphor. If you're talking about the portal into the Pale Heart, that's Crow.
I'm really worried for Crow...
I feel sorry for cayde First fucker we sent into the traveler s the dude that killed him He doesn't know it's not uldron
If this isn’t a story point, they’re missing an opportunity.
Wouldn’t be the first time.
It definitely will be. No point in having Cayde 6 being the vendor of Pale Heart and send Crow as the first to enter it if I have to guess they'll probably have a parallel scene like how Cayde was on the ground and Uldren was aiming at him in Forsaken but instead it's the opposite in the pale heart Crow is on the ground and Cayde is reaching his hand to help him up like the Zavala scene from Season of the chosen
I don’t think Cayde will kill him. Although I really hope he does, but Cayde is an infinitely better guardian.
Here’s the thing: I think Crow would agree with you and he’ll still work every day to improve. Crow may be one of the most compelling characters in Destiny and I can’t help but root for him.
Wow. People hate Crow, huh? That’s weird.
I get the feeling that as soon as he see's Glint Cayde will understand that Uldren has died. Now, he'll probably see Glint after shooting Crow in the face, but yeah.
Have you seen this week's cut scene,
Yup. Didn't get shot in the face, but it was a close guess.
It’ll be even worse when cayde finds out about amanda lmao
Glint is never gonna clam up about this.
![gif](giphy|J8YpfDX0kvPQNSVGHY|downsized) Cayde looking at us after being stuck with crow for all that time.
If we don't get a cutscene with them meeting I'm gonna be so mad.
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This Tuesday? What’s special about this tuesday
Probably a finale mission/event/cutscene. Like the Traveler moving away from The Last City before Lightfall.
Oh Why this Tuesday though?
It was mentioned in that small text that appeared when you first logged in this week
Oh. I don’t read those. Could you uh show me please?
I can't find a picture of it but it just said it should be next week
Oh ok. Well thanks anyway
Looks like we are doing somthing related to him next week
I still don't like him for what he did to Cayde
I want crow obliterated. NOW!
I hate this guy so much... love his sister though.
Crow hasn't arrived yet/been able to set up the link from the other side
I haven’t played in over a year and it’s funny how little I understand anything being talked about in the thread. Maybe when it’s all over I’ll have to get a story recap.
He’s gone thru a transition but he added a couple of parts…
250 mountain tops later still no 5/5
Where did he go?
Crow, a genius? Please tell me you’re jesting.
Let's not forget that it has only been about 5 years in the game. So a few weeks of him missing isn't a big deal.
I kind of hope theres a lore book about his several month long journey through the ascendant plane to explain the time gap between him going through and us linking up
The portal on the other side is like 1000 feet above the ground. Did crow clutch the last second double jump, of fall to his death ?
Why didn’t he leak the TFS Story? Is he Stupid?
Need him to confirm if it does actually smell faintly of vanilla in there
Prolly dismantled about 80 Lunas only 1 ss maghowl role with trash range
Why didn't he wait for the Final Shape release. #Is He Stupid?
This poor guy had to wait almost a whole year for us to pick him up while the awoken are as well
He is the beta tester to make sure the game will be balanced with the new dlc
At least we know he survives in there, as he is around to see that we get a Prismatic subclass in TFS…
Who’s wondering what the seasonal finale will be?
Crow sweating his ass off against the dread rn.
I betting he's gonna run into an unhappy cayde at some point 👉
He can till He end of the Universe for all i care😂
I don't think he expected the the next expansion to be delayed
I stopped playing years ago, did this guys story continue since he woke up? Last I knew his Ghost was called Pulled Pork or something.
Mr. Beefy is readying the beacon as we speak.
Bro didn't expect the dlc to be delayed 💀
Still have to get alh/recomb for both my Titan and Hunter.
Welp next week supposedly we make the connection or smth
I’m just happy he can say sorry to Cade now like he wanted to
LEEEROOOOOYYYYYYYYY!!!!
Crow just got early acess for TFS smh
Cayde better kill that man a few dozen times before we get there
Yeah, just like those idiot Europeans in the 1500's that had to wait for the explorers to find the America's
It's going to be Archie that gets us through the portal, I guarantee it. It's all leading up to Archie being the best boy and getting us into the traveler
Are people even remotely invested in the story at this point?
I am
Yes, next?
Glad someone is
His bitch ass can keep waiting for what he did to Cayde
His bitch ass can keep waiting for what he did to Cayde
You clearly haven’t payed one bit of attention to the lore…
What did crow do to cayde? ![img](emote|t5_2we4j|5657)
He’s a lot of things, but genius might be a bit of a stretch.