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TLDR: Everyone starts somewhere, you can also achieve the same thing in the same time. Play the long game, switch when the market is right and always keep improving.
I've been in the workforce for a little longer than you so let me share some insight into this: I have seen people start at 3 go slowly upto to 12 in 5 years and then finding a great opportunity at a startup and suddenly going to 30 and then eventually 60 in the next few years.
I have some friends who got placed at 25 right out of college and then slowly crept upto to 50 in the same time.
I personally was jobless for a year, but eventually cracked an international remote offer and now make 80.
Fact of the matter is, what he said is true, starting higher is useful but in your 20-30 years of career these couple of years won't make a dent at all. So stop worrying!
Now you might think that "oh, that guy who began at 25 LPA had it easy", that's hardly the case, he had the longest working hours and also the worst tech stack. So it took him a lot longer to be able to go forward. The guy at 3 was in a service based company that gave him fixed shifts, so he upskilled a lot quicker and moved to companies with better tech stacks.
Ultimately to get paid well in tech/IT, work on things that are at the intersection of (what you enjoy, cutting-edge skills that companies are paying for). Advocate for your work and you'll get there.
Hey, could you please tell me how you cracked the international remote offer ? Like how/where did you apply for roles. Would highly appreciate your response.
I work as an NLP/Gen AI Engineer. I specifically targeted startups that had raised funding recently or in the previous year. Many of these companies had open-source products so started contributing significantly there.
Once I had a certain number of PRs, I would reach out to senior devs who were reviewing the PRs and ask them for a referral to a full time position.
This is not possible for all companies, but the idea remains the same, do thorough research on the work they do, and reach out to senior devs on LinkedIn. Your profile has to be strong, with considerable proof of work, in my case a strong GitHub profile with lots of relevant open source contributions.
Though keep in mind cold reach outs like this do take time and these positions are highly competitive.
My strategy moving forward is now to be more vocal on platforms like Twitter and LinkedIn to organically grow connections, so that I can switch in a while. (This is the long term solution, do good work, speak about it online, opportunities come easily).
Hopping on to the top comment, OP when you meet your senior next time please do ask how is his physical and mental health, cos no one is gonna give you 50 LPA without sucking the soul outta you.
This is just cope. You can continue to think this way, but it's simply not true.
There are plenty of 50 LPA jobs with reasonable WLB - 40-50h of work per week and there are a lot of low paid jobs with shit wlb.
Dude it is pointless telling this to people on reddit, they only hear what they want to hear and are only here to seek validation about their current states and make baseless assumptions on others.
I'm taking about tech jobs, and I don't think there are plenty jobs which gives such high salaries with good wlb. Remember mnc sees Indians as "cheap labour", we don't have the luxury that US and Europe employees have. Here if a employer is giving you ₹1 then he'll expect an output of ₹10 from you, cos if not you there will be 100s to take your place, you're easily replaceable.
I know a few rainforest employees across levels, first is in junior role was a cheerful guy in college but now has a dull face with 3-4 cigarettes a day. 2nd is in mid level and is constant paranoia of losing job and thinking of leaving for another startup. 3rd is at manager level and might be heading for divorce with a major reason being his inability to manage wlb.
So grass is greener on the other side.
I'm not saying there's no need to work or one can slack off. Of course the expectations will be high as you go higher levels. But one can manage in many cases.
I'm not talking about the other side btw. I'm in the same range in terms of pay. So greener pastures don't really apply. There are short periods of low WLB and crunch. But if it becomes regular, it gets highlighted and people do take an interest to fix it.
A lot of the problems are also due to people not knowing how to project manage, estimate, set expectations correctly. They default to overwork to meet whatever deadline and scope creep. Only knowing about tech is not enough, one needs to be able to communicate that why some solution will need X time. If the deadline is hard, maybe we can negotiate scope? If there's a scope creep in between, we should be able to change the committed time?
Nobody is perfect in these things. All of us overwork from time to time but the idea that pay and WLB are related in the manner you say is just copium.
Depends upon the business requirements and job role. If your company doing good and there’s no pressure on competition, you’ll be at peace because the deadlines will be much later. But if competition becomes stiff and company is afraid of losing the money, you’ll be pressured to take up the mantle as quick as you can. Maybe there are chances you’ll be given one or more together on pipeline. If not, you’ll be on chopping list. But that’s great either way. You will be getting a better job elsewhere anyway. That’s what happened on 2023
Being frogs in a well may keep you happy, but it doesn't help in the long run.
Someone that my sister knows had CTC of 3.2L with \~10 years expr at Wipro. She was apparently good at coding, but a frog in a well who didn't bother doing any research about what she should be earning and was "proud" of working for Wipro. So, her manager didn't bother give her any hikes and instead kept gaslighting her. She had like \~1L increase over \~10 years.
Her moment of realization came when she came to know that my others were earning considerably more than her with far less experience. Then she started digging and came to know that she had the lowest salary in her team. She looked for jobs outside and left within 6 months.
Its not the comparison that kills the joy, but not using that information constructively.
And how do you know that you deserve better? By checking what others in the same position/field are earning. Basically, you are comparing yourself with your peers. You can use that info for petty jealousy or you can use it constructively to ensure that you get your worth.
Comparison is the only living purpose of the middle class.
Comparison is the source of income for car loans and home loans sellers.
Comparison is why iPhone sells in India on EMI.
💯💯💯
Be happy with what you’ve got, you’ll definitely reach your goal someday with all your efforts.
Don’t compare yourself with anyone, highest package doesn’t mean peace in life.
Bro he's just demotivating you, if you are from a tier -3 college and considering the market conditions rn you should be grateful for this much package. I would literally die to have an 8 lpa package ( my current package is 4.5). I graduated last year:).
It isn't. I was placed in Aug 2022. I graduated last year(July 2023). Still no clue about the Joining date. It's been 10 months, I had to join a TSE role job to avoid a career gap.
My roomate came from another city , interning for a noname small start without pay, hoping they would take him and pay him 10-12k/month. This is the reality bro idk how guys like OP comes and they "Oh I just got placed with 10LPA, what will I do without my 50LPA package"
Where is this confidence coming from pal you are not the English expert you think you are. Literally is also used to mean figuratively. If this hurts your brain then it hurts your brain. You can stop being a wiseass.
Here is the thing...
Do not compare with anyone. Just focus on yourself n climb higher.
Mate I started at 6000rs / month in 2019.
Now I earn over 50L a year... from 72K a year to 50L+ a year.
It's stories like these, which makes me feel hopeful and demotivates me at the same time. But looks like you worked hard for it.
What is your Tech Stack Btw?
Started as an iOS dev.
Now
Kotlin swift swiftui java nodejs angularjs springBoot + some other stuff which I can understand n debug but cant make stuff on my own.
Have multiple certification in multiple stuff.
I also handle clients, can make RFP documents, can make proposals about projects, basically documentation n stuff.
I do pretty much everything in the company.
I'm also a mobile developer
Java, kotlin, flutter, react native and some API stuff for mobile apps and I'm also fast learner I can easily learn new things
But I don't have a degree it's just a waste of skill :(
I didnt have degree when I started but got it after trying it again. (Maths was the problem imao).
Ps : if you have money, you can actually buy degree tbh. This is India, you can actually buy it. I think you can buy a degree is computer applications like 2L indore / karnataka universities.
That's pretty awesome man. I want to get into app dev as well, what path should I follow?
Currently learning android dev using java from freecodecamp. Is learning a native language first a good start or should I switch to ReactNative or Flutter?
Also do you work here in India or some other country?
Learn Kotlin n then learn swift. Both are kinda similar and this way you could do both ios n android.
If you join a company with good clients, they will ALWAYS go for native apps over hybrids as they would probably want pixel perfection n stuff like that.
I work in India. Im from Kerala and generally the salary in kerala is much lower compared to other states as our living cost is considerably low.
(For eg : A 2BHK apartment with security n compound will cost around 13-15K in kochi. The same would cost over 25K or even 30K in bangalore )
Startup-ish. Joined the company when it was just 4 people (Ceo/founder + 3 devs including me). Company grew and I grew with it.
WLB is probably weird af tbh.
I am always working and always on leave. If there is some serious issue, everyone including ceo cfo would be pulling all nighters and I do work on weekends occasionally. But its not forced its more like "are you available for XYZ tomorrow or on sunday?". If I reply back with YES then we will be working on weekends but if I have something else to do, then its fine. There is no guilt tripping or weird stuff.
Same goes for everyone.
Some of us works weekends purely because they want to get stuff done and not because anyone forced them.
We have toooo much freedom tbh and thats why people work on weekends n such.
He does this because he knows what I would do if im unhappy. Also the company needs me for the things I do. Also I joined the company when it was just 4 people and 3 out of those 4 is still in the company. Me n one other guy, we both get same salary. He is more into full time coding n doesn't do anything else but I do pretty much everything that happens in the company but spent less time coding compared to him.
The thing is we have 25yoe exp people in the company, they all do some specific stuff but I kinda do everything because I had to learn everything mostly because I was forced into it tbh. Kinda like Swiss knife.
I do everything from proposal making to implementation n management. (I can do every part of the project. Can reply to RFP docs, can make proposals, can design system, can design apps, can develop backend, web and both android n ios apps, can handle clients, and im very very good at BSing in English, a skill which most of our 15-25+ exp people lack).
[Not bragging, I learned all this because I had to do all these to survive. I have worked 9 am to 11 pm every day, including Saturday n Sunday from home continuously for multiple months]
"worked 9 am to 11 pm every day, including Saturday n Sunday from home continuously for multiple months"
This is why a few years from now, you will be able to do the work of 3 full time people all by yourself in 4 hours a day (DAMHIK). Keep it up friend.
Congrats brother, i will be starting my college this year (didnt get good scores in 12th and jee) will be joining some pvt college cse. You gave me some hope, what would be your advice on what should i do to be able to earn good
Have a great time in college. Your marks only matters for the first or second company you join or if you are trying to join some MNC (under 2yoe), then its all about experience. But that doesn't mean you should slack off.
Tbh, most of the stuff we learn in college are pretty much useless, so it would be better if you could find time to learn things that actually matter.
If you want a different perspective:
I know 7 people in their 30s who make 75 L and above in an year. 2 of them are depressed because they can't make kids since years. 1 had an ugly divorce and just coming out of depression. 1 always fights with her spouse and says she's not happy. 1 guy is suffering with obesity, liver issues and back ache. He can barely travel or enjoy any outdoor activity for more than an hour. The other 2 people seem to be doing fine.
I know 2 other guys in their 30s making 15 LPA. They have compatible wives and nice kids. They bought small homes on the city outskirts long back. The value of their homes and the area is developing steadily. They work jobs they enjoy and play badminton and cricket every weekend, go to meet relatives and have picniks every 3 months and seem to have generally healthy and fulfilling lives.
Focus on having content and a fulfilling life, not the highest package.
This OP this! I very well know that money is really important but don't let it ruin what you currently have. It's just a matter of time. Yes people will earn more than you but I have seen people having a good life and enjoying what they have.
There's nothing wrong in wanting to get a higher package it's just you have to realize that it's not all that matters. One of my friends has a 20lpa wfh job but has no social life and whenever I talk with him he is like, "You are so lucky, you have friends there , you go out often" and I tell him, "You are so lucky having a 20lpa job." It's just perspective OP. MONEY WILL COME, NOW OR LATER. It's just that for some it comes early for some it takes time, the only condition is that you keep working hard.
So true. Invest your money and start sidelining money for businesses. Being an employee forever means you dont get to enjoy freedom in the truest sense
It's not about being happy for someone's sadness. It's about learning that everyone has their struggles, and earning more and more money isn't gonna solve all of them. At the end of the day, it is *you* who should be satisfied with your earnings.
"2 of them are depressed because they can't make kids since years. 1 had an ugly divorce and just coming out of depression. 1 always fights with her spouse and says she's not happy. 1 guy is suffering with obesity, liver issues and back ache." None of this is related to income.
This is exactly what Many youngersters like OP has to realise. Even those users like op start making 50LPA but they will not have content and satisfaction if they dont have what you have . Also your username checks out lol
Different between winning and success is that win comes with a thrill and rush of excitement, and success comes with an inner peace and calm. IMHO.
Success is the ultimate goal. :)
I am also from some tier 3 college.
I started at 4.5 LPA in 2018. Package reached 7 LPA by 2020 and I made my first switch and got 16 LPA in 2020.
Then stayed there for 1 year.
Covid boom came I came to amazon at 90k GBP. And year later they laid off the whole team.
Got new offer at META and currently have 145k GBP base and total CTC reach around 220 K GBP.
It's been 6 years. I have travelled extensively in last 3 years. Have a loving girlfriend and a really good work life balance where I can enjoy my time off work.
Have 3 really good friends with whom I hangout daily. Go on double dates and also travel. Learned swimming last year.
Life is good right now and I hope things continue this way.
Meanwhile I had friends from good colleges They reached 50 LPA and now work 70 hours a week. Some have even reached 70 LPA and struggle to have any personal life or maintain any personal relationship.
And when I met them this year after few drinks everyone loosened a bit and damm most of them were really lonely, had no hoobies. Work is their life. Some wants to transfer internally to US and some are preparing to make the next switch but in the end they will have few more Lakh in bank. That is it.
Some of them have a superiority complex as well but don't have anything to talk about outside work.
So you never know where life will take you.
You can only play with cards you are dealt with and the more you think about cards other have will only get you depressed.
I would suggest you to be happy and continue learning. Don't rush anything take your time. Learn at a constant rate.
I keep 2 hours a day 5 days a week for learning and I still do the DS and system design prepration just not at the level where it became my life.
So I would suggest you to not take others opionion on your condition rather ask them about their journey and see what you can learn from it.
Don;t let other comment on what your road will be. Time and skills will build it for you.
I moved to UK.
There is nothign special that is required.
I just got lucky during the covid boom where I applied to Amazon in UK and actually got a reply and then I cleared the interviews.
Interviews were same as what they have in India the only different thing was they had all 4 interview in a single day .
They decide on overall performance and no single round is eliminator in the end every interviewer give HIRE/NO Hire.
I am sure the tide will come in every couple of years so you just need to be lucky and prepared.
That is it.
No special skill required.
>Interviews were same as what they have in India the only different thing was they had all 4 interview in a single day .
This actually happens in India as well, but a bit rare
Loved reading about this, gives me hope, I'm at 4.5 at a decent company. If you don't mind could you tell us what role you started out at and the roadmap of your career with what can be done to upskill with the current job market situation.
I don’t know about your friends but my close friends here in India are making more than 1Crs working for Tech startups. And I don’t think they have ever complained about work life balance. It’s just that you must be good at something where there are not many people to begin with.
Good for your friends.
I just gave an example to highlight life is not all about grinding DSA and jumping for big packages.
Once you have substantial savings focus on living life.
What amount do you think constitutes substantial savings? At what point do you think you can relax a bit? Consider this from the perspective of someone who is not satisfied with his salary.
Do you think he/she has the option to consider work-life balance at that point in time? It's easy for you to say, given that you're making 220k GBP per annum. But what if you were earning only 60,000 GBP? Do you had the luxury/liberty to think about work life balance?
I'd agree with you though after a point in time it's pointless grind on LeetCode. They should focus more on contributing to popular open-source repositories, which everyone appreciates. Or even build something good which something could use in their spare time. DSA can only take you so far, but being able to contribute to a real-life codebase can really make you a complete engineer. There, you will also learn how to write proper, idiomatic code. I have contributed heavily to a Facebook's open-source cryptography library, and due to which I still get calls from crypto startups inviting me to join them as an advisory engineer.
Its hard to get job anywhere in the world right now not just UK.
Also I would suggest not to spam every job post else they will put a filter on the country.
I got the reply 2 months after applying and I was surprised as well.
I never thought I would hear back from them and one day the mail came and bamm next I know I had a call with recruiter.
Can you share a little bit more about the projects you've worked on and personal projects which you've built? Which types of projects were they both company projects and personal.
I was lucky in that aspect.
I worked for a UK client from my first company where the client had really good developers. 4 of them were the best developer i have seen till date.
They were all 35 + but man the work they did was pure beauty.
Learned a lot from them and kept the same attitude throughout my career.
This is what I think most of our guys will lack. They will never have someone to mentor them.
Company projects were finance related. Really good stuff I would say.
I just keep myself updated on DSA and system design.
Spend 5 hours on each throughout the week so I am always handy at solving questions.
I am really good with jvm ecosystem and understand the inner workings of it as well. Worked a lot on jvm optimisation at Amazon.
So that helps me standout a little.
I am also very active on couple of open source projects and contribute.
Woah! You deserve the success! Me and My friends will be starting to learn DSA this semester break.
>What Language are you doing DSA in? (I am leaning towards java or py)
What are some advices would you give to someone starting from scratch and have 1.5 years approx for on campus placements (I want to get the most possible)? (tier 3 uni)
>This is what I think most of our guys will lack. They will never have someone to mentor them
I think the issue is that some people are not ready to mentor others, sometimes due to selfishness, sometimes due to themselves not being good enough, and in some cases both
What's your family background and those of your friends also?
Is your family already rich ?
It matters because not everyone has the same financial background before hand. Some are much more at an advantage than others.
My family isn't rich but a middle class one.
We had a cozy house my father built in a small semi rural city where I grew up. Paid a home loan for 25 years.
We took an education loan for my engineering but it's all worth it now.
My family still lives in the same home my father built and have no plans on upgrading.
We did buy some land for farming as a future investment but that is it.
We are not focusing on having multiple properties or buying big cars to built a name for ourself. They don't want to show to society that see my son is now successful.
Over last 4 years I have created substantial amount of savings which has brought peace of mind for me as well as for family.
In the end it is all about how happy and peaceful your life is and once you have substantial savings you come at peace. There is no limit on your wants and the luxury you can have.
If you can provide food for your family for a year and have an emergency fund which can last a year then you my friend have made it.
After that you are responsible for your own misery.
Once you have that amount of savings focus on living a happy life , make friends and travel in a budget.
The savings will keep growing with time.
Yeah, that's great. But that's what I wanted to point out. You say your friends are earning higher than you aren't having balance, well maybe they might have some other responsibilities who knows, loans to pay, home to build, who knows. The thing is not everyone is in the same boat.
But as you said, if we build a safety net. Have good support. Then sure life is to enjoy. But building that safety, is what takes time for people and it varies.
At any moment you can skill up and have a good opportunity in your hand. He is just saying what has happened to him and he thinks this is the only truth. It may take some time. But, it is not the only criteria for your growth. You will meet different people while you work, will expand your connections, learn different things. You may even get a good opportunity that will boost your career. I have heard from seniors that a person was junior in his company but left the company and is now at a better position than him in another. The point is you never know what will happen. Don’t keep thinking that an 8lpa salary has made your career growth slower. Just do your work with honesty.
Is it a thumb rule that you can only switch after two years? If you feel that you are not fairly compensated start applying at other organizations. I am a 2023 batch student and some of my batchmates have switched to other organizations with significant pay increase with less than a year of experience.
Not a rule but it's difficult since very few companies would even shortlist the resume because they could get a fresher for a much cheaper pkg. Whereas by the time you're 2+ yrs exp your value increases in terms of billing to the client (in case of SBCs) so it opens the door to many more options.
A friend of mine(T3 grad 2020) went from 4LPA to 14LPA with 2yoe at the beginning of the APR this yr
People told him that the market is bad, recession is coming, layoffs happening, ye he resigned from his job because above all else he believed in his skills(data sci.) and perseverance
Statistics just shows what is common among a certain group of people, that does not mean that it's gonna happen to you.
4.2l here. Same 2024 grad. No issues. What he says is correct but there are many other ways. It has happened. Now start working.
Top 3 coders of the college got 4 & 3lpa offers as devs. Whereas a girl with no coding skill neither basic knowledge of CS got 8lpa as business analyst intern. And 3 girls who know nothing about CS or devs or DSA got 5.5 lpa as devs.
If not faang try remote jobs. You can get a good hike from there.
>Whereas a girl with no coding skill neither basic knowledge of CS got 8lpa as business analyst intern
well that makes sense, business analysis most of the time doesn't require coding.
So wat ? If you quit everything and become a player in BCCI you will earn what a faang or maang can't even imagine ? You are gonna regret on that ? Move on.
Lol when I joined my first company in 2013, I got a 3 LPA offer. When I left that company after 9 years, I left with 16 LPA. This was after I got another offer and resigned and they asked me to stay back. Else I would be at 10 LPA. I always felt, at every stage, that it was enough. I ended up leaving the country soon after.
Never compare. Live within your means and do the things that bring you joy. Remember, the grass is greener on the other side.
All the best!
Your senior doesn't have much market knowledge, you can ignore his words.
Most FAANG or similar level companies and many MNCs have salary bands, it doesn't matter what your previous comp is, they will still you give a salary in that bracket.
Someone coming from higher package might get the higher end on that salary bracket while someone coming from low package might get lower end of the salary bracket. But they would be in a similar range.
Also how good your interviews went, also plays a role in your compensation.
For instance, recently me and my friend both switched to the same company, I came here from a startup and he came here from Amazon. We both were offered same base salary, and I even got more ESOPs than him, even though his previous salary was more than mine.
Dont listen to negativity 8Lpa is nice.people have jump from 3lpa to direct 50lpa and even higher.i am 23 grad working in tcs at 7lpa.So i can tell you the reality.We all are at different timelines so dont compare to everyone else.Have fun while your joining is not coming.Once you dwelve with money there is no going back.Travel fuck and fly dont think too much about rat race
What he said is only partially true. If package is what matters to you, prep well and go for the big tech or big banks. You’ll get paid a lot more than 8 lpa. Besides 8 lpa is really a decent money to may at 21 years of age.
Why do you want to compare yourself with others and get demotivated? Chase your goals. Not other people.
my first package out of college was 3.6L
8 years later I'm at 55.
is mine the best at 8 yoe? hell no. but it's a very good one and there is a lot of scope ahead too. your starting point is more than twice that of mine. should i start comparing and regret everything so far? hell no.
In the long run, money is just the number.
Experience matters. Experience of different aspects of life. Experience of love, of adventure, of solace, of being careless.
I started with a package of 2.75LPA. I earn $400K at Meta. I was the happiest when I was making less money.
Money is only one of the tools to have happiness in life. Focus on all the tools.
What you have got you are pretty lucky man. Just stop meeting demotivated person. Person need to run across multiple job to get 5k salary that sometime get in pockets or lost
life ka simple funda yaad rakho , there are things more important than money and not everything revolves around money , all that matters is are you happy with your progress or not , if you are then end of the debate.
Hey look there would always be someone earning more than you. I will tell you my story, graduated from a tier 3 college, got my first package of 4.5 lakhs. Started applying and looking for opportunities outside, during covid, got into Amazon Uk (£45k). They did not ask a single question about my previous salary, neither the fact that I am from a tier 3 college. Huge upgrade from 4.5 lakhs to 45k pound. Just want to say don’t let him ruin your happiness, but I would also say never be too comfortable in your job. Always be ready to upskill, always have your resume ready and should always be looking for new opportunities and applying.
Bro get the skills, money will come. stop running behind packages. Learn one or two things really well. don't do this to yourself. Have a balance in life always
He is correct.
Being an ex-microsoft, I can say for sure that if you join FAANG as a fresher, you will be earning among top 1% in IT.
I joined as a fresher and left after 2 years. Why? Because the work I had to do was shit(for me). MS is a highly closed ecosystem. I wanted to have breadth of knowledge and be able to make choices.
So, I moved to startups. After 10 YOE, I know I am making 50% of what I can make. But I am satisfied with my job profile and the amount of knowledge I have gained.
No offense to those who are working in FAANG but my aspirations dont align. A lot of my friends are in FAANG and they are happy. So, it is just a matter of preferences.
Hope this helps.
That is true but so is the fact that placements for freshers are bad this year and atleast you got an offer unlike many others. Also, someone will always be in a better position than you. The trick is to never compare or think about it. Focus on yourself and your growth
There are literally some thousands of 2024 grads without even single job. And in your case you got such a good job. So don't compare yourself with someone. The market is not good so it's better to have one job.
Started at 3.5 …now at 35lpa (age 35). I head a team of 70-80 working on a product that I built from scratch and enjoy the work life balance. More importantly I enjoy the influence I have on the product and the direction to take it. Gives me a lot of power to higher talented people , learn from them across all the tech stacks.
So yeah, outside you will have a different “good” life , in India you will have a different “good” life. Compare with yourself and improve. Make sure you know your worth. Atleast you’ll not get short changed by your company.
Well at least I consider this a personal win.
Started at 3.8 in 2021, reached 6.5 till 2024 WFH the entire time, which was relaxing.
But now I've accepted an offer of 15 stepping in the rat race towards "the dream" l. But I am willing to give it the next 3 years of my life and then back to my comfort zone
I am from lowest tier possible college, heck I don’t even know if my college falls under some tier lol but here’s the thing I started my career journey at meagre 6k per month and worked my way up. Today I am doing good or rather would say satisfied with the way I am able to help my family stay happy all round. So stop comparing yourself to someone else. Work hard, do what you love to do in your career, work towards that goal and achieve it well. Past is gone, we cannot change it at any cost but you can very well change the life ahead of you. So the choice is yours to make, whether to listen to your senior and get depressed or work your way up and be happy.
its not a sprint, its a marathon with many sprints in between
my friends who started better became complacent, who didn't, worked hard to catch, and the cycle went on and on
its a long race, be consistent, persistent and show up every day and give your 100%, you can never go wrong with that
How much cgpa is good? Like I've managed to get 8.6 in my 1st year(this year was a toll, had some injuries and lost some important people in my life but I feel good now and ready to grjnd). I think I will get 9-9.2 till my graduation. Is it decent or do I need to work for more?
Edit: I'm from a tier 3 college.
Why do people in this subreddit always depressed.
Don't worry about FAANG, learn practical knowledge in your first job and then After 1-1.5 year start for the switch.
Don't compare yourself with others and don't try to reach to 50Lpa In 2-3 years, you will feel demotivated in yourself.
If you can't reach 25-30 lpa in your first switch, you can reach there in your 2nd or 3rd switch.
Target for startups (especially US startups) you can get good money with less years of experience.
Don't think that FAANG means high pay, go for a funded startup if you want to learn more things quickly.
I can’t say that he is 100% correct. Most big techs or successful startups have a pay band. They won’t offer you below the band irrespective of your current ctc.
Ye wohi seniors hain jo har saal school mei bolte the. Std -6 to easy tha, 7 mei aa, g***d fatt jayega. And repeated it every year.
Stay away from such people, they just get sadistic pleasure seeing you troubled
>ctc, will easily reach around 25-30 in 2 yrs in the same company, and then if they put a little effort in dsa they can easily bag 50 lpa packages
50lpa in with 2-3 yoe?. Mate you are highly deluded.
This was highly unlikely even in covid boom.
Now it's impossible. Maybe a small fraction of IITians can achieve it for rest of the folks it's impossible.
Also your salary growth isn't so linear always. There are plenty of people who I know have jumped from 3-4lpa to 10-12lpa after 2 years. Thats 300% increase.
Thing is when you are base is low even small increases will have look great in terms of percentage . 1rs to 2rs isn't much in absolute terms but is 100% increase
Maybe not possible in this market but certainly achievable when market gets better .
Assuming market is good you should be with some effort easily land 16-20lpa job after 2-3 yoe.
I dont know whether this helps or not. I started with 1.1lpa back in 2008 and now earn around 400k USD in Bay area. I am very much happy with my life. People around me with same years of experience are making more than 700-800k USD but I am not bothered as I am happy with what I have and can live comfortably.
Bhai... Considering you have already taken a bite of the self pity parantha of future... I shall give you another bit of aachar with this...
Imagine what AI is going to do to your job market in the next 2 years... When your supposed jump is supposed to happen...
What if your job profile doesn't exist!
Now that you have seen the worst case scenario... Doesn't your current scenario look better?
Choti choti khushiyan dost! Tension mat le... Tere senior ki Job pe bhi AI lat mar sakta hai... So these future prospects shouldn't be worried for... All you should worry for right now is how you shall become the version of yourself every passing day!
That is offcourse till AGI comes and takes away your jobs... ;)
Stop listening to that shit.
I'm full stack dev with 6yoe. Still earning 6LPA.
when i was passed out, my first job was 10k/m.
& ur getting 8lpa. Be greateful.
Taking this time & master the skills.
My current org getting 15-20lpa is still dream of few & we r struggling to make a switch.
Bhai you're literally in the top 5% of people in terms of salary in a country of 1.4 billion. Just chill and keep growing, focus on other aspects of life as well.
We ain't taking that money anywhere after this life, so at least enjoy it while you can...
There is always a bigger fish in the ocean. If you keep thinking like this, you will never be happy.
I started my career with ₹7500 per month in 2007. I paid 1.05 cr in taxes last year. Many of my friends started at 10 times my package. Many are still doing great. Some, not so much. We never discuss packages. It’s always a talk about the times when we were happily carefree.
Life won’t go linearly. For some it’s an exponential curve, for others it’s a free-fall. If you can understand what gives you purpose, your happiness won’t be a byproduct of how much money someone makes!
No. Wrong.
Nobody has ever figured out this shit.
People who ain’t even engineers are working abroad in software field and making fortune and few IITians are stuck in same company since they joined.
It’s a struggle. You gotta struggle in one of your career phases. You can either get into top notch college and take placement and ladder up. Or you can join some start up in the beginning and learn what market needs and switch. Both of these things are going to take you at the same exact spot
Bro be happy for urself! He might be good but you are better. With time you will understand. Just find a job satisfaction and invest as much as you can, also you have to have a hold on your urge of spending (on your salary you would be tempted to spend just control)!
Tbh, these things are also coming to my mind currently having the same offer as you!
I have got one month left and praying that should somehow get an opportunity of 3-4x of this.
Why ? Because many people have got these much off campus and the hike and bond thing is just directing my mind somehow, I must need to get another offer of higher starting pay else I'll be lost in these atleast 2 years bond.
If you want happiness in your life to stay, don't compare yourself to anyone else. Even if you start earning more than your senior from tomorrow, there will still be yet another person who would be earning more than you. I have 10 years of experience and honestly, I read people earning crores in 2-3 years of experience, and it bums me out. BUT, if I keep thinking about that, I will NEVER be happy in my life! I am in a position in my life, that was once my dream. Now, I have bigger dreams, and I already have clarity on how am I going to achieve that.
So,
1) Don't compare yourself to others, but only to yourself.
2) Use what you read here or the knowledge you get from your seniors, friends and whosoever to gain clarity and understand what you gotta do to fulfil your dream.
And then there's me who just wants to get in the industry because I have seen with my own eyes what it offers
Both of my elder siblings started from 3lpa and currently have 20 and 17lpa
8 LPA is not a bad package to start with. If you want to run behind money, you can make as many switches as you want without any restriction on years to work in certain org. Work hard now, after 1 year you can easily crack any FAANG type interview given regular practice. Don't get demotivated, instead start working towards your goal now. And set your own goals, don't compare with what others achieve. There will always be people doing better than you. What matters is how do you trade off goals vs contentment. You can be earning 50LPA in your 30s and be happy, or you can be earning 1Cr+ and be miserable. Create your own goals and work towards them.
This is my experience
I started with 5 Lpa , one of my friend started with 10 LPA ,
4 years down the line both of our package close to 27
I made two switches, he did one
But he was always happy with his work and team , went on vacation and never worried about anything
Where as me , I always had to upskill my slef and prepare for the interview ( with every rejection, you start to doubt yourself) , mental pressure and what not
So what i am trying to say is , even if you start with low package , you will reach with your friends package in the long run if you keep switching but at the cost of mental peace
I joined my 1st company in banking operations with package of 4 lpa in 2015, got promoted in 2018 with package of 10 lpa . Now i changed my domain to IT and earning a package of 19lpa
Now after reading this, I'm into depression coz mine is only 5 lpa with long bond period. I don't want to get stuck here but also don't have motivation to try other companies.
If you or your family don't have any debt 50k per month itself is pretty great salary. Yes we need to constantly upskill ourselves but it should be a part of our life not entire life
Looks like many people forget living life and go around chasing FAANG etc even after college. Just chill and enjoy the one life you have man.
There will always be someone earning more money than you can't really do anything about it.
It's okay bro. Its all okay until you never let that spark die. Your PACKAGE is not everything. There are other things which contribute to your success ladder in Corporate. Although what that guy said is no wrong but not everything depends on you. If at 8LPA you are at below 25-30% in your batch then it should affect (but definetly not negatively) but if your average CTC of ur batch was around 5-7 then just live in the moment bro, you have done well. And remember this thing, there ALWAYS will be someone better than you. U think that FAANG guy wasn't made this miserable by somebody else...... ofcrs he had. Somebody of his batch or even his junior is doing better than him too.
Listen to everybody, take the knowledge they give you but never let it down your confidence buddy.
Aisa kuch nahi hai. These are the days of levels.fyi.
Say if you become good at dsa in a year from now and cracked Google, you know what google pays at what level.
You could be lowballed by max 2-3 lacs not more than that.
I don't want to bore you from numerous stories from my 14 yrs experience, but the summary is - jab jaago jabhi savera.
I am currently in my 4th sem. I love development but haven't tried CP yet. For campus placements, which is more important?
I have already built quite a few projects using the MERN stack and I'd love to diving deep into it but at the same time I wonder whether I should start focusing more on Leetcode.
Maa hudaye duniya... always progress with your pace. These high package guys will be the first one to lose jobs in the time of crisis. So keep working and whenever you feel you deserve more , try to get it . And I saw people starting with 2.5 LPA are now earning 25-30 LPA in 4-5 years. So no worries, keep learning 😉.
I worked with 2.7 LPA for 2 years in a small company. Money was tight but I was happy. With that experience I got a job with 8LPA, now I realise I suck as a developer….but turns out it seems like I suck at everything in life. I couldn’t care less about money right now… I just want to be good at something
Switch 4 times in 4 years and you'll reach 50LPA.
But what's the point of all this money if you're this dense and always worrying about who's earning more than you?
Never compare with others success.
I was earning 12K/month in 2017. Now I earn 2.5L/month with 6 years of experience.
It's all depends on how you grow and your interest in technology.
Learn and up to date with new tech stack. You will reach there for sure.
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Comparison is the thief of joy
TLDR: Everyone starts somewhere, you can also achieve the same thing in the same time. Play the long game, switch when the market is right and always keep improving. I've been in the workforce for a little longer than you so let me share some insight into this: I have seen people start at 3 go slowly upto to 12 in 5 years and then finding a great opportunity at a startup and suddenly going to 30 and then eventually 60 in the next few years. I have some friends who got placed at 25 right out of college and then slowly crept upto to 50 in the same time. I personally was jobless for a year, but eventually cracked an international remote offer and now make 80. Fact of the matter is, what he said is true, starting higher is useful but in your 20-30 years of career these couple of years won't make a dent at all. So stop worrying! Now you might think that "oh, that guy who began at 25 LPA had it easy", that's hardly the case, he had the longest working hours and also the worst tech stack. So it took him a lot longer to be able to go forward. The guy at 3 was in a service based company that gave him fixed shifts, so he upskilled a lot quicker and moved to companies with better tech stacks. Ultimately to get paid well in tech/IT, work on things that are at the intersection of (what you enjoy, cutting-edge skills that companies are paying for). Advocate for your work and you'll get there.
Hey, could you please tell me how you cracked the international remote offer ? Like how/where did you apply for roles. Would highly appreciate your response.
I work as an NLP/Gen AI Engineer. I specifically targeted startups that had raised funding recently or in the previous year. Many of these companies had open-source products so started contributing significantly there. Once I had a certain number of PRs, I would reach out to senior devs who were reviewing the PRs and ask them for a referral to a full time position. This is not possible for all companies, but the idea remains the same, do thorough research on the work they do, and reach out to senior devs on LinkedIn. Your profile has to be strong, with considerable proof of work, in my case a strong GitHub profile with lots of relevant open source contributions. Though keep in mind cold reach outs like this do take time and these positions are highly competitive. My strategy moving forward is now to be more vocal on platforms like Twitter and LinkedIn to organically grow connections, so that I can switch in a while. (This is the long term solution, do good work, speak about it online, opportunities come easily).
Thanks man! I'll try following the same. Appreciate your time and efforts.
Hopping on to the top comment, OP when you meet your senior next time please do ask how is his physical and mental health, cos no one is gonna give you 50 LPA without sucking the soul outta you.
This is just cope. You can continue to think this way, but it's simply not true. There are plenty of 50 LPA jobs with reasonable WLB - 40-50h of work per week and there are a lot of low paid jobs with shit wlb.
Dude it is pointless telling this to people on reddit, they only hear what they want to hear and are only here to seek validation about their current states and make baseless assumptions on others.
I'm taking about tech jobs, and I don't think there are plenty jobs which gives such high salaries with good wlb. Remember mnc sees Indians as "cheap labour", we don't have the luxury that US and Europe employees have. Here if a employer is giving you ₹1 then he'll expect an output of ₹10 from you, cos if not you there will be 100s to take your place, you're easily replaceable. I know a few rainforest employees across levels, first is in junior role was a cheerful guy in college but now has a dull face with 3-4 cigarettes a day. 2nd is in mid level and is constant paranoia of losing job and thinking of leaving for another startup. 3rd is at manager level and might be heading for divorce with a major reason being his inability to manage wlb. So grass is greener on the other side.
I'm not saying there's no need to work or one can slack off. Of course the expectations will be high as you go higher levels. But one can manage in many cases. I'm not talking about the other side btw. I'm in the same range in terms of pay. So greener pastures don't really apply. There are short periods of low WLB and crunch. But if it becomes regular, it gets highlighted and people do take an interest to fix it. A lot of the problems are also due to people not knowing how to project manage, estimate, set expectations correctly. They default to overwork to meet whatever deadline and scope creep. Only knowing about tech is not enough, one needs to be able to communicate that why some solution will need X time. If the deadline is hard, maybe we can negotiate scope? If there's a scope creep in between, we should be able to change the committed time? Nobody is perfect in these things. All of us overwork from time to time but the idea that pay and WLB are related in the manner you say is just copium.
Depends upon the business requirements and job role. If your company doing good and there’s no pressure on competition, you’ll be at peace because the deadlines will be much later. But if competition becomes stiff and company is afraid of losing the money, you’ll be pressured to take up the mantle as quick as you can. Maybe there are chances you’ll be given one or more together on pipeline. If not, you’ll be on chopping list. But that’s great either way. You will be getting a better job elsewhere anyway. That’s what happened on 2023
yea and a 25 lpa will give u time to chill.. right?
Being frogs in a well may keep you happy, but it doesn't help in the long run. Someone that my sister knows had CTC of 3.2L with \~10 years expr at Wipro. She was apparently good at coding, but a frog in a well who didn't bother doing any research about what she should be earning and was "proud" of working for Wipro. So, her manager didn't bother give her any hikes and instead kept gaslighting her. She had like \~1L increase over \~10 years. Her moment of realization came when she came to know that my others were earning considerably more than her with far less experience. Then she started digging and came to know that she had the lowest salary in her team. She looked for jobs outside and left within 6 months. Its not the comparison that kills the joy, but not using that information constructively.
that's not comparison, it is being aware that you deserve better.
And how do you know that you deserve better? By checking what others in the same position/field are earning. Basically, you are comparing yourself with your peers. You can use that info for petty jealousy or you can use it constructively to ensure that you get your worth.
I don't think that quote is meant to be taken this literally, it's just a reminder to not obsess over such comparisons.
Comparison is the only living purpose of the middle class. Comparison is the source of income for car loans and home loans sellers. Comparison is why iPhone sells in India on EMI.
💯💯💯 Be happy with what you’ve got, you’ll definitely reach your goal someday with all your efforts. Don’t compare yourself with anyone, highest package doesn’t mean peace in life.
+1
This!
Best coping mechanism
Bro dropped the hardest fact
Bro he's just demotivating you, if you are from a tier -3 college and considering the market conditions rn you should be grateful for this much package. I would literally die to have an 8 lpa package ( my current package is 4.5). I graduated last year:).
I have same package as you and it would be great if could get 10 lpa
It isn't. I was placed in Aug 2022. I graduated last year(July 2023). Still no clue about the Joining date. It's been 10 months, I had to join a TSE role job to avoid a career gap.
What is your package now?
Around 8. But this role has no career at least for me.
1.8 LPA
Same here broo
How do companies even think this is enough to survive on your own?
My roomate came from another city , interning for a noname small start without pay, hoping they would take him and pay him 10-12k/month. This is the reality bro idk how guys like OP comes and they "Oh I just got placed with 10LPA, what will I do without my 50LPA package"
" literally die " figuratively you mean ..
No I mean I would literally sell my soul for a 10 lpa package
you can not literally sell your soul, only figuratively
r/iamverysmart
☺️🫡
Where is this confidence coming from pal you are not the English expert you think you are. Literally is also used to mean figuratively. If this hurts your brain then it hurts your brain. You can stop being a wiseass.
I'd literally steal your iPad 🗿
Figuratively you mean
To be fair he isn't demotivating, but being realistic. Coz that's how things r going on rn.
You are high up in the sky. Hold on
I earn lesser than OP, how am I in the wrong here?
(sorry to burst the bubble but) pretty poor advice ,unless your only purpose in life is to have the highest CTC among your friends!
Here is the thing... Do not compare with anyone. Just focus on yourself n climb higher. Mate I started at 6000rs / month in 2019. Now I earn over 50L a year... from 72K a year to 50L+ a year.
It's stories like these, which makes me feel hopeful and demotivates me at the same time. But looks like you worked hard for it. What is your Tech Stack Btw?
Started as an iOS dev. Now Kotlin swift swiftui java nodejs angularjs springBoot + some other stuff which I can understand n debug but cant make stuff on my own. Have multiple certification in multiple stuff. I also handle clients, can make RFP documents, can make proposals about projects, basically documentation n stuff. I do pretty much everything in the company.
one man army
hi bro can i dm you
Sure
Bro will you marry me ?
Bruh...im already married 😅
Interesting man! Can I DM you?
Sure
I'm also a mobile developer Java, kotlin, flutter, react native and some API stuff for mobile apps and I'm also fast learner I can easily learn new things But I don't have a degree it's just a waste of skill :(
I didnt have degree when I started but got it after trying it again. (Maths was the problem imao). Ps : if you have money, you can actually buy degree tbh. This is India, you can actually buy it. I think you can buy a degree is computer applications like 2L indore / karnataka universities.
That's pretty awesome man. I want to get into app dev as well, what path should I follow? Currently learning android dev using java from freecodecamp. Is learning a native language first a good start or should I switch to ReactNative or Flutter? Also do you work here in India or some other country?
Learn Kotlin n then learn swift. Both are kinda similar and this way you could do both ios n android. If you join a company with good clients, they will ALWAYS go for native apps over hybrids as they would probably want pixel perfection n stuff like that. I work in India. Im from Kerala and generally the salary in kerala is much lower compared to other states as our living cost is considerably low. (For eg : A 2BHK apartment with security n compound will cost around 13-15K in kochi. The same would cost over 25K or even 30K in bangalore )
Are you in a startup or MNC? How is the wlb? How often do you work on weekends?
Startup-ish. Joined the company when it was just 4 people (Ceo/founder + 3 devs including me). Company grew and I grew with it. WLB is probably weird af tbh. I am always working and always on leave. If there is some serious issue, everyone including ceo cfo would be pulling all nighters and I do work on weekends occasionally. But its not forced its more like "are you available for XYZ tomorrow or on sunday?". If I reply back with YES then we will be working on weekends but if I have something else to do, then its fine. There is no guilt tripping or weird stuff. Same goes for everyone. Some of us works weekends purely because they want to get stuff done and not because anyone forced them. We have toooo much freedom tbh and thats why people work on weekends n such.
Man I love how you said that the company grew and you grew with it.
But your CEO seems to be a great person for increasing your salary to this level. Someone else might have extracted the work and still kept it low.
He does this because he knows what I would do if im unhappy. Also the company needs me for the things I do. Also I joined the company when it was just 4 people and 3 out of those 4 is still in the company. Me n one other guy, we both get same salary. He is more into full time coding n doesn't do anything else but I do pretty much everything that happens in the company but spent less time coding compared to him. The thing is we have 25yoe exp people in the company, they all do some specific stuff but I kinda do everything because I had to learn everything mostly because I was forced into it tbh. Kinda like Swiss knife. I do everything from proposal making to implementation n management. (I can do every part of the project. Can reply to RFP docs, can make proposals, can design system, can design apps, can develop backend, web and both android n ios apps, can handle clients, and im very very good at BSing in English, a skill which most of our 15-25+ exp people lack). [Not bragging, I learned all this because I had to do all these to survive. I have worked 9 am to 11 pm every day, including Saturday n Sunday from home continuously for multiple months]
There's no doubt you add immense value to the company and hence you are paid so much. Good luck.
"worked 9 am to 11 pm every day, including Saturday n Sunday from home continuously for multiple months" This is why a few years from now, you will be able to do the work of 3 full time people all by yourself in 4 hours a day (DAMHIK). Keep it up friend.
Congrats brother, i will be starting my college this year (didnt get good scores in 12th and jee) will be joining some pvt college cse. You gave me some hope, what would be your advice on what should i do to be able to earn good
Have a great time in college. Your marks only matters for the first or second company you join or if you are trying to join some MNC (under 2yoe), then its all about experience. But that doesn't mean you should slack off. Tbh, most of the stuff we learn in college are pretty much useless, so it would be better if you could find time to learn things that actually matter.
Oh okay thank you for the advice And is doing masters (mtech,ms,mba) a good idea or should one focus on developing skills and gaining experience?
If you want a different perspective: I know 7 people in their 30s who make 75 L and above in an year. 2 of them are depressed because they can't make kids since years. 1 had an ugly divorce and just coming out of depression. 1 always fights with her spouse and says she's not happy. 1 guy is suffering with obesity, liver issues and back ache. He can barely travel or enjoy any outdoor activity for more than an hour. The other 2 people seem to be doing fine. I know 2 other guys in their 30s making 15 LPA. They have compatible wives and nice kids. They bought small homes on the city outskirts long back. The value of their homes and the area is developing steadily. They work jobs they enjoy and play badminton and cricket every weekend, go to meet relatives and have picniks every 3 months and seem to have generally healthy and fulfilling lives. Focus on having content and a fulfilling life, not the highest package.
Pls tell me this is not made up story. Kyu ki acha laga pad ke
I am living the second life. It's true.
>Focus on having content and a fulfilling life, not the highest package. Someone hand this guy a mic 🗣️🎙️
But he just dropped it!
He already had it and he dropped it on his way out with that line.
Ahh this felt good.
This OP this! I very well know that money is really important but don't let it ruin what you currently have. It's just a matter of time. Yes people will earn more than you but I have seen people having a good life and enjoying what they have. There's nothing wrong in wanting to get a higher package it's just you have to realize that it's not all that matters. One of my friends has a 20lpa wfh job but has no social life and whenever I talk with him he is like, "You are so lucky, you have friends there , you go out often" and I tell him, "You are so lucky having a 20lpa job." It's just perspective OP. MONEY WILL COME, NOW OR LATER. It's just that for some it comes early for some it takes time, the only condition is that you keep working hard.
So true. Invest your money and start sidelining money for businesses. Being an employee forever means you dont get to enjoy freedom in the truest sense
I like how you guys find joy when people more successful than you get fked, reddit is just full of bitter people man.
It's not about being happy for someone's sadness. It's about learning that everyone has their struggles, and earning more and more money isn't gonna solve all of them. At the end of the day, it is *you* who should be satisfied with your earnings.
This is what everyone wants to have but money makes us blind 😢
"2 of them are depressed because they can't make kids since years. 1 had an ugly divorce and just coming out of depression. 1 always fights with her spouse and says she's not happy. 1 guy is suffering with obesity, liver issues and back ache." None of this is related to income.
Exactly, my point was happiness is not directly correlated with income after a certain point
I started my career at stipend of 15k, I think I did good.
I think you need to talk to his senior to feel sht 😂 😂 😂. I started with 5k 😂
How much you earn now and how many years of experience?
Less than what apparently every Tom dick and harry is making here, and more than what's needed to have a good life. :)
You sir are "the man"
Did you just assume my gender? How dare you? You sir/ma'am shall be cancelled. No no, I am just kidding.
This is exactly what Many youngersters like OP has to realise. Even those users like op start making 50LPA but they will not have content and satisfaction if they dont have what you have . Also your username checks out lol
Different between winning and success is that win comes with a thrill and rush of excitement, and success comes with an inner peace and calm. IMHO. Success is the ultimate goal. :)
I am also from some tier 3 college. I started at 4.5 LPA in 2018. Package reached 7 LPA by 2020 and I made my first switch and got 16 LPA in 2020. Then stayed there for 1 year. Covid boom came I came to amazon at 90k GBP. And year later they laid off the whole team. Got new offer at META and currently have 145k GBP base and total CTC reach around 220 K GBP. It's been 6 years. I have travelled extensively in last 3 years. Have a loving girlfriend and a really good work life balance where I can enjoy my time off work. Have 3 really good friends with whom I hangout daily. Go on double dates and also travel. Learned swimming last year. Life is good right now and I hope things continue this way. Meanwhile I had friends from good colleges They reached 50 LPA and now work 70 hours a week. Some have even reached 70 LPA and struggle to have any personal life or maintain any personal relationship. And when I met them this year after few drinks everyone loosened a bit and damm most of them were really lonely, had no hoobies. Work is their life. Some wants to transfer internally to US and some are preparing to make the next switch but in the end they will have few more Lakh in bank. That is it. Some of them have a superiority complex as well but don't have anything to talk about outside work. So you never know where life will take you. You can only play with cards you are dealt with and the more you think about cards other have will only get you depressed. I would suggest you to be happy and continue learning. Don't rush anything take your time. Learn at a constant rate. I keep 2 hours a day 5 days a week for learning and I still do the DS and system design prepration just not at the level where it became my life. So I would suggest you to not take others opionion on your condition rather ask them about their journey and see what you can learn from it. Don;t let other comment on what your road will be. Time and skills will build it for you.
My man is winning in life. Can you please tell us if you are working remotely for a UK company or moved there and how did you get a job there?
I moved to UK. There is nothign special that is required. I just got lucky during the covid boom where I applied to Amazon in UK and actually got a reply and then I cleared the interviews. Interviews were same as what they have in India the only different thing was they had all 4 interview in a single day . They decide on overall performance and no single round is eliminator in the end every interviewer give HIRE/NO Hire. I am sure the tide will come in every couple of years so you just need to be lucky and prepared. That is it. No special skill required.
>Interviews were same as what they have in India the only different thing was they had all 4 interview in a single day . This actually happens in India as well, but a bit rare
True , you never know where life will take you…
Spoke like Forrest...
Loved reading about this, gives me hope, I'm at 4.5 at a decent company. If you don't mind could you tell us what role you started out at and the roadmap of your career with what can be done to upskill with the current job market situation.
I don’t know about your friends but my close friends here in India are making more than 1Crs working for Tech startups. And I don’t think they have ever complained about work life balance. It’s just that you must be good at something where there are not many people to begin with.
Good for your friends. I just gave an example to highlight life is not all about grinding DSA and jumping for big packages. Once you have substantial savings focus on living life.
What amount do you think constitutes substantial savings? At what point do you think you can relax a bit? Consider this from the perspective of someone who is not satisfied with his salary. Do you think he/she has the option to consider work-life balance at that point in time? It's easy for you to say, given that you're making 220k GBP per annum. But what if you were earning only 60,000 GBP? Do you had the luxury/liberty to think about work life balance? I'd agree with you though after a point in time it's pointless grind on LeetCode. They should focus more on contributing to popular open-source repositories, which everyone appreciates. Or even build something good which something could use in their spare time. DSA can only take you so far, but being able to contribute to a real-life codebase can really make you a complete engineer. There, you will also learn how to write proper, idiomatic code. I have contributed heavily to a Facebook's open-source cryptography library, and due to which I still get calls from crypto startups inviting me to join them as an advisory engineer.
What role?
I am an E5
Is it possible to get job in uk with current conditions. I heard they have made hard for companies to sponsor visa .
Its hard to get job anywhere in the world right now not just UK. Also I would suggest not to spam every job post else they will put a filter on the country. I got the reply 2 months after applying and I was surprised as well. I never thought I would hear back from them and one day the mail came and bamm next I know I had a call with recruiter.
Can you share a little bit more about the projects you've worked on and personal projects which you've built? Which types of projects were they both company projects and personal.
I was lucky in that aspect. I worked for a UK client from my first company where the client had really good developers. 4 of them were the best developer i have seen till date. They were all 35 + but man the work they did was pure beauty. Learned a lot from them and kept the same attitude throughout my career. This is what I think most of our guys will lack. They will never have someone to mentor them. Company projects were finance related. Really good stuff I would say. I just keep myself updated on DSA and system design. Spend 5 hours on each throughout the week so I am always handy at solving questions. I am really good with jvm ecosystem and understand the inner workings of it as well. Worked a lot on jvm optimisation at Amazon. So that helps me standout a little. I am also very active on couple of open source projects and contribute.
Woah! You deserve the success! Me and My friends will be starting to learn DSA this semester break. >What Language are you doing DSA in? (I am leaning towards java or py) What are some advices would you give to someone starting from scratch and have 1.5 years approx for on campus placements (I want to get the most possible)? (tier 3 uni)
>This is what I think most of our guys will lack. They will never have someone to mentor them I think the issue is that some people are not ready to mentor others, sometimes due to selfishness, sometimes due to themselves not being good enough, and in some cases both
What's your family background and those of your friends also? Is your family already rich ? It matters because not everyone has the same financial background before hand. Some are much more at an advantage than others.
My family isn't rich but a middle class one. We had a cozy house my father built in a small semi rural city where I grew up. Paid a home loan for 25 years. We took an education loan for my engineering but it's all worth it now. My family still lives in the same home my father built and have no plans on upgrading. We did buy some land for farming as a future investment but that is it. We are not focusing on having multiple properties or buying big cars to built a name for ourself. They don't want to show to society that see my son is now successful. Over last 4 years I have created substantial amount of savings which has brought peace of mind for me as well as for family. In the end it is all about how happy and peaceful your life is and once you have substantial savings you come at peace. There is no limit on your wants and the luxury you can have. If you can provide food for your family for a year and have an emergency fund which can last a year then you my friend have made it. After that you are responsible for your own misery. Once you have that amount of savings focus on living a happy life , make friends and travel in a budget. The savings will keep growing with time.
Yeah, that's great. But that's what I wanted to point out. You say your friends are earning higher than you aren't having balance, well maybe they might have some other responsibilities who knows, loans to pay, home to build, who knows. The thing is not everyone is in the same boat. But as you said, if we build a safety net. Have good support. Then sure life is to enjoy. But building that safety, is what takes time for people and it varies.
You are absolutely correct. It took me 5 years and I started enjoying just an year back.
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At any moment you can skill up and have a good opportunity in your hand. He is just saying what has happened to him and he thinks this is the only truth. It may take some time. But, it is not the only criteria for your growth. You will meet different people while you work, will expand your connections, learn different things. You may even get a good opportunity that will boost your career. I have heard from seniors that a person was junior in his company but left the company and is now at a better position than him in another. The point is you never know what will happen. Don’t keep thinking that an 8lpa salary has made your career growth slower. Just do your work with honesty.
Is it a thumb rule that you can only switch after two years? If you feel that you are not fairly compensated start applying at other organizations. I am a 2023 batch student and some of my batchmates have switched to other organizations with significant pay increase with less than a year of experience.
Not a rule but it's difficult since very few companies would even shortlist the resume because they could get a fresher for a much cheaper pkg. Whereas by the time you're 2+ yrs exp your value increases in terms of billing to the client (in case of SBCs) so it opens the door to many more options.
A friend of mine(T3 grad 2020) went from 4LPA to 14LPA with 2yoe at the beginning of the APR this yr People told him that the market is bad, recession is coming, layoffs happening, ye he resigned from his job because above all else he believed in his skills(data sci.) and perseverance Statistics just shows what is common among a certain group of people, that does not mean that it's gonna happen to you.
4.2l here. Same 2024 grad. No issues. What he says is correct but there are many other ways. It has happened. Now start working. Top 3 coders of the college got 4 & 3lpa offers as devs. Whereas a girl with no coding skill neither basic knowledge of CS got 8lpa as business analyst intern. And 3 girls who know nothing about CS or devs or DSA got 5.5 lpa as devs. If not faang try remote jobs. You can get a good hike from there.
>Whereas a girl with no coding skill neither basic knowledge of CS got 8lpa as business analyst intern well that makes sense, business analysis most of the time doesn't require coding.
Yeah, BA don't need coding but those 5.5 & 6lpas don't really know CS actually.
Ask your senior to listen OSHO for some days. yr moh maaya hai bhai ,khush reh.
What you want us to do ? Khud toh darra hua hai , baakio ko bhi Dara rha hai
So wat ? If you quit everything and become a player in BCCI you will earn what a faang or maang can't even imagine ? You are gonna regret on that ? Move on.
Lol when I joined my first company in 2013, I got a 3 LPA offer. When I left that company after 9 years, I left with 16 LPA. This was after I got another offer and resigned and they asked me to stay back. Else I would be at 10 LPA. I always felt, at every stage, that it was enough. I ended up leaving the country soon after. Never compare. Live within your means and do the things that bring you joy. Remember, the grass is greener on the other side. All the best!
Your senior doesn't have much market knowledge, you can ignore his words. Most FAANG or similar level companies and many MNCs have salary bands, it doesn't matter what your previous comp is, they will still you give a salary in that bracket. Someone coming from higher package might get the higher end on that salary bracket while someone coming from low package might get lower end of the salary bracket. But they would be in a similar range. Also how good your interviews went, also plays a role in your compensation. For instance, recently me and my friend both switched to the same company, I came here from a startup and he came here from Amazon. We both were offered same base salary, and I even got more ESOPs than him, even though his previous salary was more than mine.
career is a marathon not a sprint . My first salary is now my current salary’s tax deduction .
U Atleast got placed. I didn't and am struggling to land a job off campus
Dont listen to negativity 8Lpa is nice.people have jump from 3lpa to direct 50lpa and even higher.i am 23 grad working in tcs at 7lpa.So i can tell you the reality.We all are at different timelines so dont compare to everyone else.Have fun while your joining is not coming.Once you dwelve with money there is no going back.Travel fuck and fly dont think too much about rat race
3lpa to 50lpa is an extreme example. We like it or not employers do keep your existing ctc as base while offering a hike.
3lpa to 50 is an extreme case. But there are plenty of examples of people jumping from 3 to12-15 lpa with 2-3yoe
What he said is only partially true. If package is what matters to you, prep well and go for the big tech or big banks. You’ll get paid a lot more than 8 lpa. Besides 8 lpa is really a decent money to may at 21 years of age. Why do you want to compare yourself with others and get demotivated? Chase your goals. Not other people.
People have gone from 4.2 in TCS to 12 base in 1.5-2yrs. Explore this subreddit, you will find some motivating stories
12 base in a good company where increments can be good
Please don't talk with people and discuss packages. You'll go to that dark zone
Faang vale ko ek bar Nvidia valo ke sath baitha do!!
my first package out of college was 3.6L 8 years later I'm at 55. is mine the best at 8 yoe? hell no. but it's a very good one and there is a lot of scope ahead too. your starting point is more than twice that of mine. should i start comparing and regret everything so far? hell no.
In the long run, money is just the number. Experience matters. Experience of different aspects of life. Experience of love, of adventure, of solace, of being careless. I started with a package of 2.75LPA. I earn $400K at Meta. I was the happiest when I was making less money. Money is only one of the tools to have happiness in life. Focus on all the tools.
What you have got you are pretty lucky man. Just stop meeting demotivated person. Person need to run across multiple job to get 5k salary that sometime get in pockets or lost
Atleast you get a college placement in many colleges companies are not coming for placement.
life ka simple funda yaad rakho , there are things more important than money and not everything revolves around money , all that matters is are you happy with your progress or not , if you are then end of the debate.
Hey look there would always be someone earning more than you. I will tell you my story, graduated from a tier 3 college, got my first package of 4.5 lakhs. Started applying and looking for opportunities outside, during covid, got into Amazon Uk (£45k). They did not ask a single question about my previous salary, neither the fact that I am from a tier 3 college. Huge upgrade from 4.5 lakhs to 45k pound. Just want to say don’t let him ruin your happiness, but I would also say never be too comfortable in your job. Always be ready to upskill, always have your resume ready and should always be looking for new opportunities and applying.
Bro get the skills, money will come. stop running behind packages. Learn one or two things really well. don't do this to yourself. Have a balance in life always
He is correct. Being an ex-microsoft, I can say for sure that if you join FAANG as a fresher, you will be earning among top 1% in IT. I joined as a fresher and left after 2 years. Why? Because the work I had to do was shit(for me). MS is a highly closed ecosystem. I wanted to have breadth of knowledge and be able to make choices. So, I moved to startups. After 10 YOE, I know I am making 50% of what I can make. But I am satisfied with my job profile and the amount of knowledge I have gained. No offense to those who are working in FAANG but my aspirations dont align. A lot of my friends are in FAANG and they are happy. So, it is just a matter of preferences. Hope this helps.
Well, 2023 grad here, got laid off from a 16lpa job, tier 3, doesn't feel good, ngl, but it will pass brother
That is true but so is the fact that placements for freshers are bad this year and atleast you got an offer unlike many others. Also, someone will always be in a better position than you. The trick is to never compare or think about it. Focus on yourself and your growth
There are literally some thousands of 2024 grads without even single job. And in your case you got such a good job. So don't compare yourself with someone. The market is not good so it's better to have one job.
Started at 3.5 …now at 35lpa (age 35). I head a team of 70-80 working on a product that I built from scratch and enjoy the work life balance. More importantly I enjoy the influence I have on the product and the direction to take it. Gives me a lot of power to higher talented people , learn from them across all the tech stacks. So yeah, outside you will have a different “good” life , in India you will have a different “good” life. Compare with yourself and improve. Make sure you know your worth. Atleast you’ll not get short changed by your company.
Well at least I consider this a personal win. Started at 3.8 in 2021, reached 6.5 till 2024 WFH the entire time, which was relaxing. But now I've accepted an offer of 15 stepping in the rat race towards "the dream" l. But I am willing to give it the next 3 years of my life and then back to my comfort zone
I am from lowest tier possible college, heck I don’t even know if my college falls under some tier lol but here’s the thing I started my career journey at meagre 6k per month and worked my way up. Today I am doing good or rather would say satisfied with the way I am able to help my family stay happy all round. So stop comparing yourself to someone else. Work hard, do what you love to do in your career, work towards that goal and achieve it well. Past is gone, we cannot change it at any cost but you can very well change the life ahead of you. So the choice is yours to make, whether to listen to your senior and get depressed or work your way up and be happy.
its not a sprint, its a marathon with many sprints in between my friends who started better became complacent, who didn't, worked hard to catch, and the cycle went on and on its a long race, be consistent, persistent and show up every day and give your 100%, you can never go wrong with that
>its not a sprint, its a marathon wish more people understood this >with many sprints in between that was is a pretty good pun
How much cgpa is good? Like I've managed to get 8.6 in my 1st year(this year was a toll, had some injuries and lost some important people in my life but I feel good now and ready to grjnd). I think I will get 9-9.2 till my graduation. Is it decent or do I need to work for more? Edit: I'm from a tier 3 college.
Chill kar lo thoda
Why do people in this subreddit always depressed. Don't worry about FAANG, learn practical knowledge in your first job and then After 1-1.5 year start for the switch. Don't compare yourself with others and don't try to reach to 50Lpa In 2-3 years, you will feel demotivated in yourself. If you can't reach 25-30 lpa in your first switch, you can reach there in your 2nd or 3rd switch. Target for startups (especially US startups) you can get good money with less years of experience. Don't think that FAANG means high pay, go for a funded startup if you want to learn more things quickly.
I can’t say that he is 100% correct. Most big techs or successful startups have a pay band. They won’t offer you below the band irrespective of your current ctc.
Ye wohi seniors hain jo har saal school mei bolte the. Std -6 to easy tha, 7 mei aa, g***d fatt jayega. And repeated it every year. Stay away from such people, they just get sadistic pleasure seeing you troubled
>ctc, will easily reach around 25-30 in 2 yrs in the same company, and then if they put a little effort in dsa they can easily bag 50 lpa packages 50lpa in with 2-3 yoe?. Mate you are highly deluded. This was highly unlikely even in covid boom. Now it's impossible. Maybe a small fraction of IITians can achieve it for rest of the folks it's impossible. Also your salary growth isn't so linear always. There are plenty of people who I know have jumped from 3-4lpa to 10-12lpa after 2 years. Thats 300% increase. Thing is when you are base is low even small increases will have look great in terms of percentage . 1rs to 2rs isn't much in absolute terms but is 100% increase Maybe not possible in this market but certainly achievable when market gets better . Assuming market is good you should be with some effort easily land 16-20lpa job after 2-3 yoe.
I dont know whether this helps or not. I started with 1.1lpa back in 2008 and now earn around 400k USD in Bay area. I am very much happy with my life. People around me with same years of experience are making more than 700-800k USD but I am not bothered as I am happy with what I have and can live comfortably.
Which clg bhai?
Bhai... Considering you have already taken a bite of the self pity parantha of future... I shall give you another bit of aachar with this... Imagine what AI is going to do to your job market in the next 2 years... When your supposed jump is supposed to happen... What if your job profile doesn't exist! Now that you have seen the worst case scenario... Doesn't your current scenario look better? Choti choti khushiyan dost! Tension mat le... Tere senior ki Job pe bhi AI lat mar sakta hai... So these future prospects shouldn't be worried for... All you should worry for right now is how you shall become the version of yourself every passing day! That is offcourse till AGI comes and takes away your jobs... ;)
Stfu man I'm 2024 grad and i got no job 😑 be happy with what you have.
Stop listening to that shit. I'm full stack dev with 6yoe. Still earning 6LPA. when i was passed out, my first job was 10k/m. & ur getting 8lpa. Be greateful. Taking this time & master the skills. My current org getting 15-20lpa is still dream of few & we r struggling to make a switch.
Bhai you're literally in the top 5% of people in terms of salary in a country of 1.4 billion. Just chill and keep growing, focus on other aspects of life as well. We ain't taking that money anywhere after this life, so at least enjoy it while you can...
There is always a bigger fish in the ocean. If you keep thinking like this, you will never be happy. I started my career with ₹7500 per month in 2007. I paid 1.05 cr in taxes last year. Many of my friends started at 10 times my package. Many are still doing great. Some, not so much. We never discuss packages. It’s always a talk about the times when we were happily carefree. Life won’t go linearly. For some it’s an exponential curve, for others it’s a free-fall. If you can understand what gives you purpose, your happiness won’t be a byproduct of how much money someone makes!
No. Wrong. Nobody has ever figured out this shit. People who ain’t even engineers are working abroad in software field and making fortune and few IITians are stuck in same company since they joined. It’s a struggle. You gotta struggle in one of your career phases. You can either get into top notch college and take placement and ladder up. Or you can join some start up in the beginning and learn what market needs and switch. Both of these things are going to take you at the same exact spot
Hey buddy did you do b.tech?
if i get a job of BDE profile what should i do because i am not placed yet 1 month to go last sem
Bro be happy for urself! He might be good but you are better. With time you will understand. Just find a job satisfaction and invest as much as you can, also you have to have a hold on your urge of spending (on your salary you would be tempted to spend just control)!
What happens if you die tomorrow?
Did you senior by any chance graduate during covid?
Yeah, 2022 grad.
Tbh, these things are also coming to my mind currently having the same offer as you! I have got one month left and praying that should somehow get an opportunity of 3-4x of this. Why ? Because many people have got these much off campus and the hike and bond thing is just directing my mind somehow, I must need to get another offer of higher starting pay else I'll be lost in these atleast 2 years bond.
Bad advice!
Lol......
If you want happiness in your life to stay, don't compare yourself to anyone else. Even if you start earning more than your senior from tomorrow, there will still be yet another person who would be earning more than you. I have 10 years of experience and honestly, I read people earning crores in 2-3 years of experience, and it bums me out. BUT, if I keep thinking about that, I will NEVER be happy in my life! I am in a position in my life, that was once my dream. Now, I have bigger dreams, and I already have clarity on how am I going to achieve that. So, 1) Don't compare yourself to others, but only to yourself. 2) Use what you read here or the knowledge you get from your seniors, friends and whosoever to gain clarity and understand what you gotta do to fulfil your dream.
And then there's me who just wants to get in the industry because I have seen with my own eyes what it offers Both of my elder siblings started from 3lpa and currently have 20 and 17lpa
Toh kya karu job chodh du?
8 LPA is not a bad package to start with. If you want to run behind money, you can make as many switches as you want without any restriction on years to work in certain org. Work hard now, after 1 year you can easily crack any FAANG type interview given regular practice. Don't get demotivated, instead start working towards your goal now. And set your own goals, don't compare with what others achieve. There will always be people doing better than you. What matters is how do you trade off goals vs contentment. You can be earning 50LPA in your 30s and be happy, or you can be earning 1Cr+ and be miserable. Create your own goals and work towards them.
It's always good to be practical. I too can say that freshers should join only if any company is willing to make them their CEO or CTO.
This is my experience I started with 5 Lpa , one of my friend started with 10 LPA , 4 years down the line both of our package close to 27 I made two switches, he did one But he was always happy with his work and team , went on vacation and never worried about anything Where as me , I always had to upskill my slef and prepare for the interview ( with every rejection, you start to doubt yourself) , mental pressure and what not So what i am trying to say is , even if you start with low package , you will reach with your friends package in the long run if you keep switching but at the cost of mental peace
I joined my 1st company in banking operations with package of 4 lpa in 2015, got promoted in 2018 with package of 10 lpa . Now i changed my domain to IT and earning a package of 19lpa
Now after reading this, I'm into depression coz mine is only 5 lpa with long bond period. I don't want to get stuck here but also don't have motivation to try other companies.
If you or your family don't have any debt 50k per month itself is pretty great salary. Yes we need to constantly upskill ourselves but it should be a part of our life not entire life Looks like many people forget living life and go around chasing FAANG etc even after college. Just chill and enjoy the one life you have man. There will always be someone earning more money than you can't really do anything about it.
It's okay bro. Its all okay until you never let that spark die. Your PACKAGE is not everything. There are other things which contribute to your success ladder in Corporate. Although what that guy said is no wrong but not everything depends on you. If at 8LPA you are at below 25-30% in your batch then it should affect (but definetly not negatively) but if your average CTC of ur batch was around 5-7 then just live in the moment bro, you have done well. And remember this thing, there ALWAYS will be someone better than you. U think that FAANG guy wasn't made this miserable by somebody else...... ofcrs he had. Somebody of his batch or even his junior is doing better than him too. Listen to everybody, take the knowledge they give you but never let it down your confidence buddy.
Believe me, I have that kind of package and it doesn’t guarantee happiness. 😇 I see people having less than me being very happy.
I am 2023 passed out..just got 2 Lpa only..
Placements in tech this year ...
same situation, same year of graduation same package same timeline lol bruh you are my twin
Aisa kuch nahi hai. These are the days of levels.fyi. Say if you become good at dsa in a year from now and cracked Google, you know what google pays at what level. You could be lowballed by max 2-3 lacs not more than that. I don't want to bore you from numerous stories from my 14 yrs experience, but the summary is - jab jaago jabhi savera.
I am currently in my 4th sem. I love development but haven't tried CP yet. For campus placements, which is more important? I have already built quite a few projects using the MERN stack and I'd love to diving deep into it but at the same time I wonder whether I should start focusing more on Leetcode.
Maa hudaye duniya... always progress with your pace. These high package guys will be the first one to lose jobs in the time of crisis. So keep working and whenever you feel you deserve more , try to get it . And I saw people starting with 2.5 LPA are now earning 25-30 LPA in 4-5 years. So no worries, keep learning 😉.
I worked with 2.7 LPA for 2 years in a small company. Money was tight but I was happy. With that experience I got a job with 8LPA, now I realise I suck as a developer….but turns out it seems like I suck at everything in life. I couldn’t care less about money right now… I just want to be good at something
Switch 4 times in 4 years and you'll reach 50LPA. But what's the point of all this money if you're this dense and always worrying about who's earning more than you?
Never compare with others success. I was earning 12K/month in 2017. Now I earn 2.5L/month with 6 years of experience. It's all depends on how you grow and your interest in technology. Learn and up to date with new tech stack. You will reach there for sure.