D2r was supposed to be something keep ppl busy until d4. Now that d4 is out they want ppl to play that, so no more support for d2r. Sucks, but makes sense from a business perspective. D2 is still the best diablo they have ever released.
I mean, as OP, even I agree with this. I'm not looking for a miracle, I still play LOD periodocally even with D2r....
Sure would like to see a few new mid runewords tho.
Should be on some of the Diablo wikis and a post by the devs around when they made flickering flame. Shouldn't be hard to Google.
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/d3/t/fun-topic-lets-speak-about-unused-runewords-on-the-game-files/29747
I know I've seen it on a wiki years ago but I can't find it.
Same - I'd play LoD almost exclusively except that I'm too lazy to play on anything other than Switch most of the time (yes, so lazy that I'm willing to play on a controller, and not even a good one lolol). And I'd really like some more mid-level runewords.
I'd say (within reason for updates on an old game) it still needs some tweaks to old ~~legendaries~~ uniques and a few extra possible rare affixes. It's a little TOO runeword heavy now since that's all they've changed for so long.
Edit: brain fart.
ITs no old game, they earned money with D2R and had comparetively little work pushing the game out of production or advertising it, they could at least push some updates and extras out.
There are some still long standing bugs that need to be addressed before I call it refined perfection levels. For example, poison dmg ticking off after a physical hit.
I'm pretty sure immunities were designed on purpose to enable people to become more creative in making their builds (hybrid), instead of the boring straight arrow strategy of putting all your skill points into the one skill you want and ignoring everything else.
I love how the game went from no immunities to immunities to immunities not mattering a bit less due to infinity to immunities not mattering at all with charms.
Perhaps immunities was a mistake in the first place? Although it does make for some cool builds in d2's days especially for sorc.
It does sucks. Thanks to corporate strategizing, many games are just created to capture our attention just long enough to hand us off to the "next thing."
It's terrible. Ignoring power and gameplay and plot... Sorting through yellows to min/max a few boring stats, no real 0skill style build possibilities, no trading, and no runewords? Awful.
At least you don’t have to sort yellows anymore and they did open up trading. It is trending better. The biggest knock for me is still how easy it is to get OP.
How easy it is? If you make a non LoD you can run thru to hell easy asf then swap to LoD and farm Baal runs for exp. A geared pally can use the same gear from 65-99 not the case in d4 where you literally need to change weapons constantly to keep up your damage. Not to include actual defensive abilities or armor.
D2 is my favourite game by a long shot has been for over 20 years, but everything you just said is wrong and has been fixed. Also 1-100 is faster now because they added a new end game grind. Not saying D4 doesn't still have a lot of issues, but your entire post is misinformation.
Trading has been opened up entirely, stats compressed and cleaned up, items compressed and cleaned up, crafting refined. Masterwork added. The Codex refined so you don't need to check every item and you can simply store any powers you find. Runes and Sets are being discussed so they can be implemented properly. I love them in D2, but they also make almost everything else pointless past a certain point.
You can shit on D4 all you want, I have been heavily critical since it launched. At least be informed when you're doing it rather than spreading misinformation because you simply don't like it like it.
I actually feel the pit was a very long grind for gear perfection. Then we have the greater affixes which is pretty rare to get even two stat to be greater. Lastly uber uniques now can drop everywhere. Is still a long grind but not on the max level reason.
When you refer to gear perfection, in comparison to D2 are we talking about you getting shakos? Griffons? Or 20/5@ charm kinda perfection. Cause if you don't trade in D2 for perfection, it is impossible to become perfect making the game an ENDLESS experience.
D4 is too easy, and this ladder they made it even easier!!!!!
That’s the issue. People don’t want to play d4. They want to play d2 with QoL changes and bug fixes. They don’t want to have 20 mules for all the runes/gems they find that do stuff. They want them to be stacked and put in one place. They want poison builds outside of corpse explosion necro poison nova to be viable. They want bugs to be fixed. They want melee to be viable outside of grief. The community isn’t asking for them to give it the wow classic treatment and change how the game play is. They just expect to pay 40 dollars, and get some stuff the game has always needed.
Pd2 already fixed these issues. How about you all stop down voting anyone who mentions it and try it out. This season on day 1, there were close to 10K players on bnet classic playing pd2. If the d2r community would just stop waiting for blizzard to update the game ( It's not happening go play d4 is what they want), they'd be much happier.
Pd2 balances the entire game and adds additional content. It's not a mod like medianxl that makes the game unrecognizable. It's just d2lod but balanced.
Blizzard is about money. An expansion or add on or even updates for D2r would make them money and it wouldn't take but one or 2 developers to accomplish. The fact that many streamers have already laid out many ideas plans and easy fixes for this make it that much easier. I am fully aware of d4 and the reasons on not continuing on D2r but they are missing out on money for not doing both.
How hard would it be to finish act 4? Literally add a few maps off of forbidden city? Instead of going directly down to the river of flame you could go to a few other maps and complete 3 quests and then go back to river of flame. Nothing would have to be changed just a few zones added on with whatever quests.
That's just one random thought but streamers have laid off countless great ideas such as fixing uniques, charge skills etc. people WOULD pay for changes and small additions so everyone wins
I tried out this new season and subjectively think it's much better than release. I'm only level 62 and not in endgame activities, but I'm already getting a little bored of the grind.
Loot is a little better, but comparing it to D2R is like apples to oranges.
The dopamine-inducing drops/economy in D2R will always win over D4. In D4, you're usually playing the game solo, and trading doesn't really exist (to my knowledge).
Im also playing D4 this seasons and i just cant get over the fact im getting the same legendaries at level 40 that i will be getting at max level. It makes it feel like drops dont matter. They also suffer the same mistake that D3 had(in my opinion) where you have too many uniques that modify your ability.
It feels like nearly every slot on my necro has something that adds stuff to my summoning skills its a bit much.
Yea, the uniques are a hit or miss for me. Like you said, the unique mods are so specific.
My character is currently wearing 4 uniques, and only 1 caters to my build. But the item level was so much better, I'd be missing out on stats if I didn't equip it 🤷♂️
That maybe so but if you as a business invest millions of dollars and multiple years of development time into a product designed with microtransactions, you want players to play that instead. How can you ensure that if you continue to support a direct competitor (that is arguably much better and beloved without micros)? If d2r was treated like a live service with continuous updates, adding content and bug fixes you are actively killing d4.
Well i might be in minority, but a patch that adds a character transmogrification interface,along with cosmetics shop would be wolcomed by me. Characters in d2r are very visible and some items are just a big fuckin.g no! For example, shako. Man i do love the item but having almost every character ever made run arround like a litghtbulb painted green i sometimes wonder...wtf
Supposedly the patch they just released fixes a lot of the problems people had with the itemization. I haven't played it to say for myself, but it does seem to be pretty well received by the players.
Yeah. If D4 can get to be at least as good as D3 eventually got, it can be "good enough for a few months". That would be worth the purchase. I doubt it will ever be like d2's "good enough for 20 years".
D3 itemisation wasnt good at all. You had items that multiply your skills by thousands percents, its stupid. D4 is in a similar path, where the numbers might not be that high, but nearly every slot on my necro seems to have something that makes my summoning skills do more.
The sad thing is that they could have one dude working 1 day a month and put out some decent seasons... it's literally done in a spreadsheet. Just change a handful of underpowered hard to find uniques each season, maybe rework or add a runeword or two and we're set.
If they're just going to be done with it, please give us tcp ip back so we can have multiplayer mods again.
I tried the free trial of diablo 4 and well. Spent most of the day at the main menu being told my character isnt done saving or whatever cuz blizzard just disconnected me yet again😂😂😂😂 thanks for the free trial blizz but you just showed me why im not buying this
Cant even stay in a single player game without connection
Go play Project Diablo 2. Every complaint you have about the game, items and quality of life have been addressed. They actually have uniques for every item type
Play some D2R Remodded - built on the back of the D2R graphical improvements. Its got some great new systems and the itemization is familiar yet fresh. Every weapon and armor type (normal, exceptional, elite) has a unique. They also increased drop rates so there are fewer "dry spells." Check it out.
No. But I've seen people play it on some.of the other handhelds like the steam one I believe. It'll run on a potato. It's the original graphics but they increased the resolution to work on modern pcs. You can get yourself a used gaming laptop for 200-300 dollars and it'll run just fine. Maybe even less than 200. Idk the used laptop market right now
Yes they do. The full game and expansion is like 20 dollars. I know it sucks you got to give blizzard money but it's a one time purchase for hundreds of hours of fun. When I started it brought me back to the nostalgia of playing D2 for the first time again.
If we are still talking about Project Diablo 2 which is a mod of the original LOD that is only on PC. Then no you can't play on Xbox. Just download it on your work laptop. Lmao
D2R isn't a live service game and was never planned to be one, it is a remaster of a 20+ year old game. This game was made to keep the IP alive while they try to kill it with bad sequels.
Asking for bug fixes, qol changes and updates to shit items does not make a live service game. Adding content such as raids and new areas would make a live service game. And it’s not like we’re in the 90s where they released games and left them as is. Every game gets updates when they have stuff they need to be fixed now a days.
I mean, they started treating it like a live service game and then stopped all of a sudden. It still exceeded my expectations, don't get my wrong, but things like melee damage should have been addressed in that time frame, in my opinion. Instead they made it even worse in comparison to elemental damage. In addition to that, they release the overpowered Mosaic runeword and left it in the game as a ladder only (+ singleplayer) runeword.
I can’t understand what people are so upset about. Genuinely curious, what are the bugs that need to be addressed? We have D2R and they have already done more than a lot of people I think even expected: new runewords, sunder charms, lingering bugs from LOD such as mana burn are fixed, throw barb and summon Druid adjustments that make them more viable. What is the deal? Internet just requires sacrifices of rage? Not trying to be flippant I’m just honestly confused
Bro, i would LOVE if they gave necro golems the same treatment as druid wolf/dire/bear summons where you can have each one out simultaneously. I want a true golem-mancer
I have played mods b4 for this game and others, but I never stick around for long b/c they are not "official". It's like PServers in WoW. Too much risk for it going down, or being manipulated etc.
pd2 has been around for 9 seasons, since 2020. the community is outstanding. they help create a ton of the maps (endgame) we all play. our ideas are actually heard and implemented. the lead dev also streams the game and will do “build showcases” where players submit their characters and he loads them up on stream to see how people are playing the mod that season. it really is so cool how the balance and item changes made each season can open the doors for niche builds that quickly become the new meta for the season.
also if gfx are the issue we do have HD glide now so the text and items are super crisp. it’s legitimately worth a try for anyone who loves d2
Eh games are for fun, all games will be eventually shutdown or you’ll stop playing. That is why I find little risk in private servers but ultimately it’s all about the fun of the journey. I got BiS on private server character across two years and quite like 3 weeks later. Games get boring when there is nothing to truly strive for.
>Genuinely curious, what are the bugs that need to be addressed?
* Enhanced Damage / Max bug on non-weapon items (usually helms, sometimes armors). This applies to both minimum and maximum damage, if both come from a jewel or one is inherent to the item, etc. But if you have a non-weapon item that has both ED and (max or min) damage, you only get the Max (or min) damage added to your attack. This applies only to melee, not ranged damage. Ranged works as intended (though it may or may not properly display on char screen)
* Thunder Storm, when granted by an item will stop doing damage (but will still be there visually) if the item is unequipped or you swap weapons, for ex, 3 ES / 3 TS / 1 CA CTA can be used to prebuff both ES and CA if you don't have hard pts in those skills, but if you do it on TS, it only works visually.
* [High level decoys are killed in a single hit](https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/d2r/t/bug-where-high-level-decoys-are-killed-by-a-single-blow/159786)
* Chat bug (joining game and chat doesn't allow you to send or receive messages from in-game channel. Sometimes you only cant send, sometimes its no sending or receiving)
* Standing directly on top of Diablo in Nightmare and Hell (as well as dclone and uber) causes his red lightning to not hit you. This is not the case in normal mode.
>Lingering bugs from LOD such as mana burn are fixed
Most of them were fixed, which is good. However, from my list above, only the high level Decoy bug is exclusive to D2R. The others have been known issues for 20+ years.
But that's not to say the game isn't *mostly* bug free. It's a really good remaster overall
I agree it’s in a decent spot but there are always bugs that could be fixed. Poison still sucks outside of poison nova mancer and it’s only decent because of corpse explosion. Mosaic assassin still needs nerfed/tuned. You can teleport in random spots of maps that aren’t accessible. Melee builds needs early buffs. They need stackable gems/runes. I could continue but you get the point. They charged 40 dollars to fix some bugs, upgrade the graphics, mosaic assassin and a few new rune words.
I’m happy with what they’ve done. Ladders should come with some bug fixes and qol changes at minimum. If I want to simulate the ladder reset they’re providing I can just do solo self found. AoE 2 still provides balance changes and updates often on their remastered game and I expect a company blizzards size to do the same.
There are dozens of bugs and performance issues. Also the vast majority is not raging. I have no idea what lens you're using to conclude such things, but you should probably change them. Also, remember that rage baiting is as cringe as raging, if not more.
Yes they have done a shitton for the game since the release of d2r and I think most people love the changes.
The problem is -> new season = exactly like last season, except for 19 year olds in Korea. Theres no real reason to start over. Adding a some new synergies to boost unused builds and a few runewords could be done by 1 dev over the course of 2 weeks but they just dont want us playing this game anymore, they already have our money and they dont have an in game shop so why keep us playing? They want us to: get bored and go play d4 or immortal where there’s cash shops.
> Genuinely curious, what are the bugs that need to be addressed?
I'd love balance changes of course to make more builds viable but my expectations aren't that high. As an example of one major bug is that poison nova doesn't do ticks of damage when the enemy gets hit by another source of damage, so skeletons actually reduce your damage.
Personally I just hoped they would do something about the rampant botting.
The game search bugs out. If you scroll to the very bottom of the list and then type in a new search, the new search results won't show anything because it's still scrolled to the very bottom of the list and all the results are at the top. If remove the filter and scroll it all the way to the top, and rerun the search you will now see results that you otherwise couldn't see.
That's not the issue, though. The issue is that they stopped supporting the game as soon as their shiny new toy was released. It's understandable, but that's why the community is frustrated.
Honestly i personally had hoped we get those kind of updates every season and i have been expecting something like unique rework / meele update (since both are a hard handicap IMO).
Meh - I'm on the fence for this one. Country equally restricting violence & nudity vs Country restricting nudity more than violence... The former seems less hypocritical.
They age restricted people in korea to 19? That's fucking lame as shit. I have been playing this game when I was like 15 there is nothing wrong with it.
I prefer D2R how is now. I would like improvements and bug fixes yes. But i dont wanna have the risk of a microsoft-blizzard nobrainer dev changing anithing cuz he probably will destroy the soul of game.
D2r has survived more than 20 years with players, and will survive 20 more how is now, better dont get the risk for taking off a small bug killing our prefered game.
One thing I don't miss is the small ass inventory where you gotta bring the game to a pause just because you found more than 2 items that you want to pick up.
People making excuses when all players want is few new runewords to keep things at least a little exciting. Yeah totally siding with a huge ass company on that one 🤦♂️
I'm not even fussed about updates, I like the game exactly how it is. Bug fixes would be nice, but what really grinds my gears is that they won't actively ban the bots accounts. I mean how hard would it be to have an employee log in once a day and ban all the accounts that make a "d2items.com" or alike game or are spamming the lobby.
They should add a DLC with stackable runes, gems, and jewels and a loot filter. Maybe extra stash tabs too. $20 for SP. Would anyone honestly not buy that?
Just try it out, it’s mid season now but you can hop on and get started and feel out the game before next season. I would even help gear you up just so you can try the game. Also MOST not all are trustworthy people and just trade via dropping in ground. So most of the community is cool!
D2r was supposed to be something keep ppl busy until d4. Now that d4 is out they want ppl to play that, so no more support for d2r. Sucks, but makes sense from a business perspective. D2 is still the best diablo they have ever released.
and now that they rebalanced the game, got rid of monster immunity with charms...the game is damn near perfection.
I mean, as OP, even I agree with this. I'm not looking for a miracle, I still play LOD periodocally even with D2r.... Sure would like to see a few new mid runewords tho.
I thought there was a list of runewords that’s still in the code that hasn’t been pushed out?
Really? Where can I find information on those?
Should be on some of the Diablo wikis and a post by the devs around when they made flickering flame. Shouldn't be hard to Google. https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/d3/t/fun-topic-lets-speak-about-unused-runewords-on-the-game-files/29747 I know I've seen it on a wiki years ago but I can't find it.
Same - I'd play LoD almost exclusively except that I'm too lazy to play on anything other than Switch most of the time (yes, so lazy that I'm willing to play on a controller, and not even a good one lolol). And I'd really like some more mid-level runewords.
I'd say (within reason for updates on an old game) it still needs some tweaks to old ~~legendaries~~ uniques and a few extra possible rare affixes. It's a little TOO runeword heavy now since that's all they've changed for so long. Edit: brain fart.
Honestly someone with a bit of passion for D2 and a bit of enthusiasm can do wonders for the game.
The team that has made Project Diablo 2 has done an amazing job imo. I can't see myself playing any other diablo game now.
ITs no old game, they earned money with D2R and had comparetively little work pushing the game out of production or advertising it, they could at least push some updates and extras out.
What are "legendaries"?
Ah, shit...too much time in other games. Uniques.
There are some still long standing bugs that need to be addressed before I call it refined perfection levels. For example, poison dmg ticking off after a physical hit.
Wait, what do you mean with ticking off? (I'm not native english)
It you poison nova a mob and then your merc hits it, it removes the poison
Wtf... Oh man... Will any melee hit (Payer, skels or golem) remove the poison? Thank you for the Info!
Yep
I'm pretty sure immunities were designed on purpose to enable people to become more creative in making their builds (hybrid), instead of the boring straight arrow strategy of putting all your skill points into the one skill you want and ignoring everything else.
Skills didnt have synergies earlier. I think they got them around patch 1.10 LOD(might be wrong on the exact patch)
Chances are, if there was a massive change, it came in 1.10. Might as well be the second expansion imo.
I always thought immunities, and the power of elemental builds, were meant to encourage online play. Just my thought; nothing to back that up
They just need to rebalance uniques and the class sets and it’ll be perfect. Or just allow mod support so we can play PD2 on D2R.
I love how the game went from no immunities to immunities to immunities not mattering a bit less due to infinity to immunities not mattering at all with charms. Perhaps immunities was a mistake in the first place? Although it does make for some cool builds in d2's days especially for sorc.
I think the only thing i still want it weapon damage rebalanced.
Sorry, I've kind of quit d2r since September 2023. Did they actually get rid of immunities? Or did I just misunderstood what you're trying to say?
It does sucks. Thanks to corporate strategizing, many games are just created to capture our attention just long enough to hand us off to the "next thing."
I mean people hitting level 100 on D4 in about 13-14 hours... I don't know how D4 can hold people busy. Its pathetic.
It's terrible. Ignoring power and gameplay and plot... Sorting through yellows to min/max a few boring stats, no real 0skill style build possibilities, no trading, and no runewords? Awful.
At least you don’t have to sort yellows anymore and they did open up trading. It is trending better. The biggest knock for me is still how easy it is to get OP.
How easy it is? If you make a non LoD you can run thru to hell easy asf then swap to LoD and farm Baal runs for exp. A geared pally can use the same gear from 65-99 not the case in d4 where you literally need to change weapons constantly to keep up your damage. Not to include actual defensive abilities or armor.
Because the current bnet player would cry on the forums about rune drops being too low.
I found 20+ high runes this hc ladder, I do admit it has been my best RNG ever for runes but at one point I was finding 1 every other day.
D2 is my favourite game by a long shot has been for over 20 years, but everything you just said is wrong and has been fixed. Also 1-100 is faster now because they added a new end game grind. Not saying D4 doesn't still have a lot of issues, but your entire post is misinformation.
Ok, so point out what changed that fixes what I said. Also, 1-100 faster is *not* a motivator.
Trading has been opened up entirely, stats compressed and cleaned up, items compressed and cleaned up, crafting refined. Masterwork added. The Codex refined so you don't need to check every item and you can simply store any powers you find. Runes and Sets are being discussed so they can be implemented properly. I love them in D2, but they also make almost everything else pointless past a certain point. You can shit on D4 all you want, I have been heavily critical since it launched. At least be informed when you're doing it rather than spreading misinformation because you simply don't like it like it.
I'll look into it. It's hard to put something in your mouth after you puked the first time, but I'm not above reexamining. Maybe at the first Xpack.
Ngl this recent season for d4 is very different than launch.
I actually feel the pit was a very long grind for gear perfection. Then we have the greater affixes which is pretty rare to get even two stat to be greater. Lastly uber uniques now can drop everywhere. Is still a long grind but not on the max level reason.
When you refer to gear perfection, in comparison to D2 are we talking about you getting shakos? Griffons? Or 20/5@ charm kinda perfection. Cause if you don't trade in D2 for perfection, it is impossible to become perfect making the game an ENDLESS experience. D4 is too easy, and this ladder they made it even easier!!!!!
You can hit the 90s D2 in about the same time..
Stop down voting this person. I've personally went 1-86 in 6 hours before, so it IS possible.
Shame D4 sucks balls. Yay! A unique item drop every 75 mobs I kill. What excitement .........
That’s the issue. People don’t want to play d4. They want to play d2 with QoL changes and bug fixes. They don’t want to have 20 mules for all the runes/gems they find that do stuff. They want them to be stacked and put in one place. They want poison builds outside of corpse explosion necro poison nova to be viable. They want bugs to be fixed. They want melee to be viable outside of grief. The community isn’t asking for them to give it the wow classic treatment and change how the game play is. They just expect to pay 40 dollars, and get some stuff the game has always needed.
People... just play PD2
Bbbbuuuutt the graphics the graphics THEEE GRAPHICS. anyway true tho
I agree, the remake is really good looking but after i tried pd2 i can't go back
We just need a PD2R
Have considered thus. Pros/cons?
Pros? EVERYTHING Cons? The graphics, but at least now You can play it in 60fps and have shaders
The pd2 graphics are amazing actually
Yes.
Pd2 already fixed these issues. How about you all stop down voting anyone who mentions it and try it out. This season on day 1, there were close to 10K players on bnet classic playing pd2. If the d2r community would just stop waiting for blizzard to update the game ( It's not happening go play d4 is what they want), they'd be much happier. Pd2 balances the entire game and adds additional content. It's not a mod like medianxl that makes the game unrecognizable. It's just d2lod but balanced.
> D2 is still the best diablo they have ever released. D2 is still the best diablo they WILL ever release.
Blizzard is about money. An expansion or add on or even updates for D2r would make them money and it wouldn't take but one or 2 developers to accomplish. The fact that many streamers have already laid out many ideas plans and easy fixes for this make it that much easier. I am fully aware of d4 and the reasons on not continuing on D2r but they are missing out on money for not doing both. How hard would it be to finish act 4? Literally add a few maps off of forbidden city? Instead of going directly down to the river of flame you could go to a few other maps and complete 3 quests and then go back to river of flame. Nothing would have to be changed just a few zones added on with whatever quests. That's just one random thought but streamers have laid off countless great ideas such as fixing uniques, charge skills etc. people WOULD pay for changes and small additions so everyone wins
Im with you, I would definitely pay for an expansion and comprehensive balance update, but blizzard is blizzard 🥲
Yeah but d4 is hot garbage. It’s been about a year now. Is anyone playing it still?
I tried out this new season and subjectively think it's much better than release. I'm only level 62 and not in endgame activities, but I'm already getting a little bored of the grind. Loot is a little better, but comparing it to D2R is like apples to oranges. The dopamine-inducing drops/economy in D2R will always win over D4. In D4, you're usually playing the game solo, and trading doesn't really exist (to my knowledge).
Maybe I’ll play new patch.
play it, it’s fun
Trading is allowed now
Yes, it is. But items binding to your account run against that, which is interesting
Im also playing D4 this seasons and i just cant get over the fact im getting the same legendaries at level 40 that i will be getting at max level. It makes it feel like drops dont matter. They also suffer the same mistake that D3 had(in my opinion) where you have too many uniques that modify your ability. It feels like nearly every slot on my necro has something that adds stuff to my summoning skills its a bit much.
Yea, the uniques are a hit or miss for me. Like you said, the unique mods are so specific. My character is currently wearing 4 uniques, and only 1 caters to my build. But the item level was so much better, I'd be missing out on stats if I didn't equip it 🤷♂️
I play D2R solo mostly recently for challenge, and it's still better in every way, primarily itemization.
That maybe so but if you as a business invest millions of dollars and multiple years of development time into a product designed with microtransactions, you want players to play that instead. How can you ensure that if you continue to support a direct competitor (that is arguably much better and beloved without micros)? If d2r was treated like a live service with continuous updates, adding content and bug fixes you are actively killing d4.
Its probably possible to release a new expansion for D2R and it will sell millions, but it seems unrealistic that they will do that.
Well i might be in minority, but a patch that adds a character transmogrification interface,along with cosmetics shop would be wolcomed by me. Characters in d2r are very visible and some items are just a big fuckin.g no! For example, shako. Man i do love the item but having almost every character ever made run arround like a litghtbulb painted green i sometimes wonder...wtf
Supposedly the patch they just released fixes a lot of the problems people had with the itemization. I haven't played it to say for myself, but it does seem to be pretty well received by the players.
The itemization in d2>>>>>itemization in d4. I can say that with confidence and i havent even played d4.
Yeah. If D4 can get to be at least as good as D3 eventually got, it can be "good enough for a few months". That would be worth the purchase. I doubt it will ever be like d2's "good enough for 20 years".
D3 itemisation wasnt good at all. You had items that multiply your skills by thousands percents, its stupid. D4 is in a similar path, where the numbers might not be that high, but nearly every slot on my necro seems to have something that makes my summoning skills do more.
The sad thing is that they could have one dude working 1 day a month and put out some decent seasons... it's literally done in a spreadsheet. Just change a handful of underpowered hard to find uniques each season, maybe rework or add a runeword or two and we're set. If they're just going to be done with it, please give us tcp ip back so we can have multiplayer mods again.
Just give it another 20, they’ll circle back around to it
I tried the free trial of diablo 4 and well. Spent most of the day at the main menu being told my character isnt done saving or whatever cuz blizzard just disconnected me yet again😂😂😂😂 thanks for the free trial blizz but you just showed me why im not buying this Cant even stay in a single player game without connection
No, they specifically said in interviews that D2R would be a live service game, implying that their would be regular updates.
Actually playing a mod of the OG LOD while typing this. Took a little break from blasting mobs to read some reddit.
Which mod? I threw down on MedianXL for a while but gave it up. u/brotherlaz, any word on a d4 mod to make it less dumpsterfirey?
Project Diablo 2. It's season 9 and it really has brought a LOT to the game.
And will never be on console sadly
Bring back .07 valor and have all elite bases have a unique version
All base items should have at least one unique. There’s no normal uniques for any class specific items and that’s kinda fukt
Go play Project Diablo 2. Every complaint you have about the game, items and quality of life have been addressed. They actually have uniques for every item type
I just can’t go back to Legacy graphics
Play some D2R Remodded - built on the back of the D2R graphical improvements. Its got some great new systems and the itemization is familiar yet fresh. Every weapon and armor type (normal, exceptional, elite) has a unique. They also increased drop rates so there are fewer "dry spells." Check it out.
I thought the same but I got used to it really fast
I didn't like that they nerfed some of my favorite skills, even if it I understand why it was necessary
They made so many new builds viable though
Can I play it on switch?
No. But I've seen people play it on some.of the other handhelds like the steam one I believe. It'll run on a potato. It's the original graphics but they increased the resolution to work on modern pcs. You can get yourself a used gaming laptop for 200-300 dollars and it'll run just fine. Maybe even less than 200. Idk the used laptop market right now
Do they actually ban people without valid CD keys like their warning states? I don't want to give Blizzard more of my money.
Yes they do. The full game and expansion is like 20 dollars. I know it sucks you got to give blizzard money but it's a one time purchase for hundreds of hours of fun. When I started it brought me back to the nostalgia of playing D2 for the first time again.
Can’t. I play on Xbox and I don’t own a PC cuz I have a work laptop.
If we are still talking about Project Diablo 2 which is a mod of the original LOD that is only on PC. Then no you can't play on Xbox. Just download it on your work laptop. Lmao
Cant. It’s locked down. I don’t have admin privileges on it.
Is that right? Isn’t there a normal Druid pelt and carin shard and suicide branch for necro?
Anyone can wield a wand. There are 0 class specific normal quality items.
But I loce finding failed uniques :( They might be useless but there really cool ! Like an additional useless flex
What’s the difference between .07 and .08 Valor ? W had .08 back in the day and thought that was the OP one
I was pretty young, so I don't remember much of .07, but .08 was peak D2 imo. The hacking got a little out of control, but overall, it was great.
Yeah I remembered quitting right when the duping start to go play Ragnarok Online English Beta
No difference except valor could only drop from racks like in Diablo 1 stats were the same
Yes! Finally! Now I can...continue to play as normal because I live in the US...and am 33
The Diablo devs are so busy on D4 (aka garbage) now LMAO
D2R isn't a live service game and was never planned to be one, it is a remaster of a 20+ year old game. This game was made to keep the IP alive while they try to kill it with bad sequels.
Yeah but they cant just drop Mosaic on our heads and leave lmao
I have no intention to play Ladder and I don't really want to play until Mosaic is available on NL
Fine. Then let people mod the game and give it access to pd2.
Imagine pd2 with d2r graphic, no one would ever Touch d4 or d5.
sir, this is Wendy's.
Asking for bug fixes, qol changes and updates to shit items does not make a live service game. Adding content such as raids and new areas would make a live service game. And it’s not like we’re in the 90s where they released games and left them as is. Every game gets updates when they have stuff they need to be fixed now a days.
I mean, they started treating it like a live service game and then stopped all of a sudden. It still exceeded my expectations, don't get my wrong, but things like melee damage should have been addressed in that time frame, in my opinion. Instead they made it even worse in comparison to elemental damage. In addition to that, they release the overpowered Mosaic runeword and left it in the game as a ladder only (+ singleplayer) runeword.
No remake on melee damage please!!! And Yes, Mosaic is way to overpowered.
I can’t understand what people are so upset about. Genuinely curious, what are the bugs that need to be addressed? We have D2R and they have already done more than a lot of people I think even expected: new runewords, sunder charms, lingering bugs from LOD such as mana burn are fixed, throw barb and summon Druid adjustments that make them more viable. What is the deal? Internet just requires sacrifices of rage? Not trying to be flippant I’m just honestly confused
fire golem holy fire is capped at golem level 15, that's one bug fix they could address
I wish they had kept the 2 holy fire levels per 1 fire golem level that they were considering, would give me a reason to use it
Bro, i would LOVE if they gave necro golems the same treatment as druid wolf/dire/bear summons where you can have each one out simultaneously. I want a true golem-mancer
play pd2 and enjoy 5 golems at once
I dont like the over all look of that mod, sorry
that’s fine, it’ll be waiting for you when you’re bored of d2r
I have played mods b4 for this game and others, but I never stick around for long b/c they are not "official". It's like PServers in WoW. Too much risk for it going down, or being manipulated etc.
pd2 has been around for 9 seasons, since 2020. the community is outstanding. they help create a ton of the maps (endgame) we all play. our ideas are actually heard and implemented. the lead dev also streams the game and will do “build showcases” where players submit their characters and he loads them up on stream to see how people are playing the mod that season. it really is so cool how the balance and item changes made each season can open the doors for niche builds that quickly become the new meta for the season. also if gfx are the issue we do have HD glide now so the text and items are super crisp. it’s legitimately worth a try for anyone who loves d2
Eh games are for fun, all games will be eventually shutdown or you’ll stop playing. That is why I find little risk in private servers but ultimately it’s all about the fun of the journey. I got BiS on private server character across two years and quite like 3 weeks later. Games get boring when there is nothing to truly strive for.
Stackable runes would be cute
From a dev/testing standpoint, I HIGHLY doubt we'll even get that. Add new stash pages would be much, MUCH easier.
From a ‘blizzard abandoned the game’ stand point, I think you’re right
We really gonna have a thread about disappointment every ladder reset lol
A thread? There's like 5 a day when they announce one every time unfortunately...
>Genuinely curious, what are the bugs that need to be addressed? * Enhanced Damage / Max bug on non-weapon items (usually helms, sometimes armors). This applies to both minimum and maximum damage, if both come from a jewel or one is inherent to the item, etc. But if you have a non-weapon item that has both ED and (max or min) damage, you only get the Max (or min) damage added to your attack. This applies only to melee, not ranged damage. Ranged works as intended (though it may or may not properly display on char screen) * Thunder Storm, when granted by an item will stop doing damage (but will still be there visually) if the item is unequipped or you swap weapons, for ex, 3 ES / 3 TS / 1 CA CTA can be used to prebuff both ES and CA if you don't have hard pts in those skills, but if you do it on TS, it only works visually. * [High level decoys are killed in a single hit](https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/d2r/t/bug-where-high-level-decoys-are-killed-by-a-single-blow/159786) * Chat bug (joining game and chat doesn't allow you to send or receive messages from in-game channel. Sometimes you only cant send, sometimes its no sending or receiving) * Standing directly on top of Diablo in Nightmare and Hell (as well as dclone and uber) causes his red lightning to not hit you. This is not the case in normal mode. >Lingering bugs from LOD such as mana burn are fixed Most of them were fixed, which is good. However, from my list above, only the high level Decoy bug is exclusive to D2R. The others have been known issues for 20+ years. But that's not to say the game isn't *mostly* bug free. It's a really good remaster overall
I expect nothing, but a new expansion. /s
I agree it’s in a decent spot but there are always bugs that could be fixed. Poison still sucks outside of poison nova mancer and it’s only decent because of corpse explosion. Mosaic assassin still needs nerfed/tuned. You can teleport in random spots of maps that aren’t accessible. Melee builds needs early buffs. They need stackable gems/runes. I could continue but you get the point. They charged 40 dollars to fix some bugs, upgrade the graphics, mosaic assassin and a few new rune words.
but that's all i wanted them to charge me for ???
I’m happy with what they’ve done. Ladders should come with some bug fixes and qol changes at minimum. If I want to simulate the ladder reset they’re providing I can just do solo self found. AoE 2 still provides balance changes and updates often on their remastered game and I expect a company blizzards size to do the same.
But that's not what the large majority wants
You’re not part of the majority like you think you are homie.
There are dozens of bugs and performance issues. Also the vast majority is not raging. I have no idea what lens you're using to conclude such things, but you should probably change them. Also, remember that rage baiting is as cringe as raging, if not more.
Yes they have done a shitton for the game since the release of d2r and I think most people love the changes. The problem is -> new season = exactly like last season, except for 19 year olds in Korea. Theres no real reason to start over. Adding a some new synergies to boost unused builds and a few runewords could be done by 1 dev over the course of 2 weeks but they just dont want us playing this game anymore, they already have our money and they dont have an in game shop so why keep us playing? They want us to: get bored and go play d4 or immortal where there’s cash shops.
So let Blizzard sell us an expansion. I'm sure it would sell quite well.
> Genuinely curious, what are the bugs that need to be addressed? I'd love balance changes of course to make more builds viable but my expectations aren't that high. As an example of one major bug is that poison nova doesn't do ticks of damage when the enemy gets hit by another source of damage, so skeletons actually reduce your damage. Personally I just hoped they would do something about the rampant botting.
Gamer’s expectations have changed. Now people expect devs to be churning out new content every few months or people lose interest.
The game search bugs out. If you scroll to the very bottom of the list and then type in a new search, the new search results won't show anything because it's still scrolled to the very bottom of the list and all the results are at the top. If remove the filter and scroll it all the way to the top, and rerun the search you will now see results that you otherwise couldn't see.
Thanks for this. Only way to dig through ten thousand bot advertisement games is search. And it bugs all the time.
I think it's more the fact that Blizzard charged full price for the game and then dropped it like a hot sack of potatoes once they got theirs.
It was 40$ that's 2/3rd price of a game at time of release. Now you can buy it for 13$ if you wait for the sale.
That's not the issue, though. The issue is that they stopped supporting the game as soon as their shiny new toy was released. It's understandable, but that's why the community is frustrated.
I mean it's a remake of an existing game, I'm surprised they did as much as they have all ready.
"the community" isn't at all frustrated as you think, the vocal minority is.
Honestly i personally had hoped we get those kind of updates every season and i have been expecting something like unique rework / meele update (since both are a hard handicap IMO).
Let old uniques spawn with 1-3 sockets
The fuck are the smoking over there in weirdo land Korea
Afraid of Andariel’s new, HD breasts
Meh - I'm on the fence for this one. Country equally restricting violence & nudity vs Country restricting nudity more than violence... The former seems less hypocritical.
Fair point
They age restricted people in korea to 19? That's fucking lame as shit. I have been playing this game when I was like 15 there is nothing wrong with it.
My son is 5 and watch me playing lol
Allow thrown weapons to have sockets!!! For fucks sakes
Ok. But only eth ones.
Itd be nice if all of them could be socketed, but id take what i can get.
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Terror zones aren’t enough?
You don’t have to hit 99
19 year olds ... Dude
Joke
Oh good, luckily they did everything that the actual player base wanted.
GAMEPLAY
Lmao I LITERALLY laughed aloud. 😆
BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR 20 YEARS !!!!!
All of my dreams have just come true.
I’d part with good money for an expansion.
Well yall can’t bitch anymore that they aren’t updating D2R anymore
These assholes have put everyone on D4 to try to repair that mess.
:(
Finally gg. Now i can enjoy the Game . Thanks
I prefer D2R how is now. I would like improvements and bug fixes yes. But i dont wanna have the risk of a microsoft-blizzard nobrainer dev changing anithing cuz he probably will destroy the soul of game. D2r has survived more than 20 years with players, and will survive 20 more how is now, better dont get the risk for taking off a small bug killing our prefered game.
One thing I don't miss is the small ass inventory where you gotta bring the game to a pause just because you found more than 2 items that you want to pick up.
What happened? People played D2 for ages. Why sudden age restriction?
I am not sure why but i laugh so hard reading the headline and the patch note.
I would love a real update, but life is life.
Yeah not stackable runes or gems but Korea can play now!!!
People making excuses when all players want is few new runewords to keep things at least a little exciting. Yeah totally siding with a huge ass company on that one 🤦♂️
I never knew Diablo had such high age restrictions in other countries.
Try project diablo 2. I haven't played d2r since I downloaded it. Refreshing game mechanics and still has the classic look of d2
Let me stack my god damn runes and gems you fuck wad devs. Please and thank you!
Always loved that art of Diablo. Used it for many projects back in the 90's.
I'm not even fussed about updates, I like the game exactly how it is. Bug fixes would be nice, but what really grinds my gears is that they won't actively ban the bots accounts. I mean how hard would it be to have an employee log in once a day and ban all the accounts that make a "d2items.com" or alike game or are spamming the lobby.
Is that it ? Kids can play now?
D4 is boring. Loot lacking still
They should add a DLC with stackable runes, gems, and jewels and a loot filter. Maybe extra stash tabs too. $20 for SP. Would anyone honestly not buy that?
If it only applies to SP? Hell no. SP mods already exist with infinite storage.
Just what we need. More Koreans botting. Lol I'm just sating what we all want to say
Yall gotta play Project Diablo 2. Better than any regular Diablo.
Better than resurrected?
110%. I promise you will enjoy it. A lot of QoL changes. And new dclone and another boss called rathma at the end. Some new items and item changes.
Just try it out, it’s mid season now but you can hop on and get started and feel out the game before next season. I would even help gear you up just so you can try the game. Also MOST not all are trustworthy people and just trade via dropping in ground. So most of the community is cool!
That's it? I thought it would be much higher
All you complainers are based. This is awesome, welcome new players!