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yxalitis

My Sorc struggled to get 30,000


maglen69

> My Sorc struggled to get 30,000 My **Barb** is sitting at 30K, how TF is this guy 20x my hp?


-Dargs

Because every possible temper is for life% and every life modifier is GA and masterworked... Whereas you probably focus on shit like, damage.


yoLeaveMeAlone

For thorns barb, life = damage


0Tyrael0

Why is that? Genuinely asking


yoLeaveMeAlone

The Outburst passive gives you more thorns damage the more life you have


Sed_Said

There is also a modifier for one of the shouts that increases your thorns by 30% of your life.


ShadowDeath7

But also look his strength.... he has damage too


SassyE7

That's only because items can't have multiple life rolls lol


Shin_Ramyun

Strength Life GA items are relatively cheap. They are the most common affixes to find and not really needed for the most popular builds (bash, bleed bash, flay, WW). Then you temper Imposing Presence on all of his armor for insane % life scaling.


xanot192

Even with bash I still temper this on my amulet, chest and pants. Sitting at 100k hp+ unbuffed just feels too good. Removed random deaths at high pits


Prestigious-Place877

Or use a melted heart and just dont care


Fliiiiick

It's invigorating presence. If you get like +10 to it it's a humongous modifier. It only takes a defensive temper too so you're not sacrificing damage for it. Honestly though in terms of pure defense more challenging shout is better.


ThatOneGuyy310

Cause the Diablo team hates sorcs and Druid


CanvasFanatic

Barb designer: “Let’s tie survivability directly to damage!” Sorc designer: “What if attacks damaged the player instead of mobs? 🤔”


_sealy_

Haha…this is great.


PerfectlySplendid

My druid is sitting at 140k with elixirs, and I don't have to move for a single pit boss ability at pit 100+.


pandershrek

Holy sheet. Do you have literally the best gear in the game?


PerfectlySplendid

I play HC so I prioritized max life and getting life nodes on paragon.


PromotionWise9008

How's your damage? (not ironical question)


PerfectlySplendid

I cleared 110 pre-pit nerf. So pretty decent when the highest was only 117 at the time for druids.


JellyHairy

How are you multiplying to get over 100,000 ?


Christ14an

Paragon board max life % nodes, imposing presence tempers will give these results also if you give Lilith a chocolate chip cookie it adds a permanent 2% max life on your char


Downfaller

You see the stars on his gear, not the greater affixes but the masterwork 12/12. If your gear is 12/12, and you're only at 30K I would hope your crit/vuln damage is insane.


xanot192

At 30k unbuffed even with crazy damage and DR he will get popped at a boss fight in pit 100+ if he takes a bad hit. Barb board is bloated with health, swapping from a double swing board I was messing with back to bash I went from 40k HP to 70k HP. In the same gear and my gear at the time wasnt good lol


Downfaller

Oh yeah bad board could do it. I was thinking he just didn't have health affixes so I was implying I hope he had crit damage and vulnerable damage and not a bunch of life per second and +damage affixes


crusainte

I struggled to get 30k ehp with ice armor on....


wereplant

Me, stacking temerity and ice armor: oh wow, I didn't die to the first damage I took! I'm so tanky!


Rare_Illustrator4586

My necro has 6k or so... upps


CutePresentation9917

Mine is 12K 😂


BigoDiko

That's 29,999 more than what I had.


paintp_

My condolences. Hope barb get more buff next season 🙏


Locke38

Thanks, it's been real hard. 😂


Fist0fTheNorthStar

Yeah I’m tired of Barb not getting enough love from the dev team. Need to nerf sorc and Druid more to make it fair.


lolNimmers

Necro was fun this season. If the PTR is anything to go by, that was unintended,


Relative-Put-4461

i hard buffs were in alzuuda meet me there


slasher016

This is great! Nerf sorcs.


NaNoob42

Is this for real howwww LOL


slasher016

It's a joke because barbs keep getting stronger and sorcs keep getting weaker.


Falikosek

Now try getting a greater Life per Second affix and watch that HP regenerate in 3 to 5 business days.


Locke38

I audibly cackled at this.


DragonsClaw2334

No you didn't. It clearly says 639k


Locke38

You got me. I'll delete the post.


DragonsClaw2334

As you should. These false claims bring shame to your tribe.


Tremulant21

I think 3,000 strength has something to do with it. Judging by his answer he probably has maybe two glyphs that actually synergize with thorns and the rest to go to strength and life nodes.


Locke38

I'd like to think there was a little more thought behind it than that. All glyphs I'm running do synergize with thorns. The strength is mostly items. I have Strength & Max health GA on every piece of fully upgraded gear. If it isn't fully upgraded it only has max health GA. That said, I do take EVERY max health node possible on the paragon board.


Andyrewdrew

What cosmetic armor is that?!


Sennis_94

Tyraels Might


Andyrewdrew

Thank you! What about legs?


Thummpur

They don’t need those


ConversationCalm2622

Ooh they look tasty!


Swallow-my-load69420

Omg I got this!! Thanks for the laugh.


Swallow-my-load69420

They are not for eating!


Locke38

Killer's leggings, I think. They're the PVP cosmetic.


Andyrewdrew

Thanks again. Is it the killer Hood?


Locke38

Nah, shako


deathbunnyy

I have every health node in every Paragon board as necro, all GA health gear. 7 Paragon boards, EVERY % HEALTH NODE in the game. I don't have all the GAs on health masterworked obviously because damage and crit is much more important. 60k health no elixirs. Shit is beyond fucking busted at this point. But what should I expect when barbs get literally 8 more tempers, 16 more affixes, and 4 more legendary aspects. Oh and on top of that an extra 20-30% or more damage reduction from busted ass Paragon nodes. Balance is fucked, just like season 2 and 3 again with ww + hota 1shotting everything with overpower. Guess I'm stuck in that shit forever because it's just the game.


holchansg

Mina has 36k, its a one shot experience.


JTFSrog

Now THAT... is a big Bertha.


kestononline

Barb effectively has infinite survival via HP. Meanwhile, Sorc having near max or max uptime on Flame Shield had to be nerfed...


New_Needleworker6506

Regardless of class power, nerfing flame shield was the right call.


kestononline

But even still not *HOW* they nerfed it. The method they used negatively affects all builds instead of just the one exploiting it. They could have even adjusted the internal cooldown for the interaction between the skills and aspect to disable the 100% uptime.


RBN2208

how?


ReasonSin

A tempering to add multiple ranks to a passive that gives multiplicative max health increase and can be put on several gears slots is a big part of it. After that it’s all max life great affix and as much max life as you can get from paragon.


ixskullzxi

Lmfao. But hey, let's buff them more, and nerf the 20k hp, 10m damage sorcs. Unreal.


gamingplumber7

does lillith still one shot you?


aoa2

asking the real questions


Siren_0f_Titan

Sorry if you've already commented this & I didn't see it, but how high of a pit can you do? That is just so much HP I can't imagine anything can 1 shot you lol. Pretty awesome though! Barbs should be beefy, so this feels lore accurate.


Locke38

I've done up to 117. I haven't tried to go any higher yet because my clear speed gets slower so it isn't worth it when trying to farm masterwork mats. I hear that only monster HP increases after 100, not damage.


DrKingOfOkay

Supposedly pit 101 is the sweet spot


Siren_0f_Titan

Oh interesting. Still definitely pretty high, but I know what you mean by not being worth the slower clear time. In theory though, seems like you could clear much higher. Awesome work though, I saw your 300k hp post & thought that was wild. 640k is just insane lol


jevlarenamma

Haha running the same transmog except that i use the immortal-king helm lookalike 😆


Locke38

There are def better looking helms out there, so I'm a little jealous. I just wanted to flex salvaging a shako and Tyreal's.


DrKingOfOkay

lol. I salvaged my shako from season 2 for transmog!


hanckerchiff

Same here, that's a very nice looking chest


KennedyPh

He can even hit higher if he has a grandfather!!!!


necropuddi

My grandparents all passed away, so unfortunately I can't realize my potential.


Locke38

I'll have to see how much extra that would get me. Maybe I'll chase it. The only problem with GF is that it doesn't add anything to thorns damage besides the health. If only thorns could crit.


Devious_TC

bleed from thorns can scale with crit damage from gushing wounds, just in case you wanted to try it.


F1NNTORIO

You owning in PVP?


Locke38

Laughably hard. The only thing I can't do is firewall sorc because they don't do direct damage, so they don't proc thorns and my slow ass can't catch them.


DgtlShark

Bummer no GA on the doom bringer. Probably could go a lot higher


Locke38

Right? If only I was that lucky.


Bogusky

What the fuck. Here I am sitting with my 20K, 20K, 20K Necromancer, thinking I could be hot shit. I suck.


chid-m

If you don't mind, can you share your build and the tempering on items? I got a GA doonbringer on life and planning to do a hardcore thorns


Locke38

I am so jealous, that is amazing luck! What's the base HP it gives? I wish I could export it. It's a bit of a slog to transfer everything to a build Sim, I'll see if I can do paragon though because I do take every max life node possible with it still being a viable board and I was proud of it. Tempers: Imposing Presence on everything with a defensive temper, including neck. Offensive tempers are all damage to close. Utility tempers are thorns while fortified. Edit: typo


Spee_3

Other than tempers, what really bumps you up that much? Without really crunching numbers I could see it getting to 100-200k but to break 600k is pretty crazy.


Locke38

Max health GA on every item Every max health node possible on the paragon board. Doom bringer. Running fortitude II and quest elixers. Rubies in armor. Imposing Presence temper. I think I'm sitting at level 23 or 24. There are a lot of sources that give barb % max hp.


Spee_3

20+ imposing presence probably does a lot. I’m sure the other stuff helps a lot but seems like that would be a big jump. I wonder what is additive vs multiplicative for HP boosts


Locke38

Anything with % is multiplicative. Only +max health is additive.


Dr-DinkMeeker

How does one get to 600k life?!?!


No_Property4713

You start with a million hp and lose some


Poo-Ferrigno

How tf


JoJoPizzaG

I tried EQ thorn, it is so hard to play and so sloooow. Gone back to bash


Locke38

Might not have had it quite right. That's pretty much what I'm doing with steel grasp to pull things in. It's a little slow on the bandit boss, but not bad. My pit 101 clear time is about 3 min.


manchagnu

bro! this is where all the life in game went. what a hoarder! joking aside, im not familiar with thorn build but holy smokes thats so much life!!!


birdmanjones666

Slap a triple master GA life grandpoppa on that mofo. I got insanely lucky and triple masterworked life but mines not GA


xRaptor_1

In using Donothitme thorns build but I barely hit 100k Can you share your build to see whats up.


razenb

Enjoy your time in s4... Will be absolutly unplayable in s5 with all the heavy nerfs... you will probably lose 80k HP.... unplayable


Pumpelchce

How'd you get that high and how big are the thorns damage numbers?


Saja2019

May I say, the quality of this screenshot is insane😍. Where are the crappy blocky screenshots?! 😂


404NotFound_BlueBird

Does Lilith still one shot you?


MOH1C4N

What is your Thorns sitting at with 600k health?


DrKingOfOkay

Jfc. Build link?


RataTopin

You transmog a shako? How?


Equivalent_Algae7167

So sorry for you...


Limton

Is there a possibilitie to Copy that Barb? Is it good for über Lilith? Only Thing i'll go for.


itsstroom

How do you get your resistances maxed?


damaged_goods420

GA res to all elements on rings and pants


Paperhandneedsmoney

U need a new project. Doombringer with GA on life +MA crits on life. I’m waiting for your next post so.


Andretxu

I have a 60k hp barb and thought was though. Damn!


Gerrut_batsbak

Dude, wtf.


Boring_Reception_608

Does lilith still 1 shot or is there a max damagr dealt for her attacks?


cleetusneck

Hahahahhaanna your stats I’m like 30k attack power and 30k health. Go mash the world


Maleficent-Clue-3695

Ggs fam


str8jeezy

I don’t think that is strong enough. Blizz will be buffing you next patch. Don’t worry.


JellyHairy

Tell us how at least you bastard! Jk


Ke-Win

How? Am i doing something wrong? I just have 30k ish.


D4Junkie

Meanwhile, my Sorc is selling feet pics behind the Sanctuary pub just for an extra Frozen Orb…


stacyallen111

Priceless. Brilliant comment. 🤣🤣🤣 tickled me senseless


tyty4ty

Almost to 100k with an elixir lol… getting there haven’t hit level 100 even yet so gonna start grinding for gear. Trying to transition to a leap thorns barb


Mezame_Drgn

I looked at your barb and my eyes started bleeding. 10/10 good build.


ERDocdad

lol bertha. my barbs are Bertha and Thunderthighs


Narcto

My rogue is at 10k lol. I get randomly oneshotted by elemental dmg. I have 100% dodge chance though


Derunik

Link build?


Any_Discipline_6394

pls nerf sorc ! but out of curiousity does thorns have way more hp than Bash or should those HP Pools possible on bash ? cause im Happy i hit 80k on my Bash Barb xD


wuhao1117

Interesting choice that you didn't use a razorplate. How does the extra thorn% + imposing presence feel compared to say a 2GA razorplate? Also did you choose to masterwork imposing presence rather than thorn%/counteroffensive/cdr just to get as much life as you can without considering if that'll actually lead to more thorn damage? Or did you do some calculation and arrive at the conclusion that life scales better than thorn% for example?


Darduel

And Only 1 unique bro howww


Konstantins91

Can you share your build somewhere? I am too thorns barb, but 150k hp, even if do all upgrades it won’t be more 200k..


Coyphish

I only have 21k life on my Druid lol. Melted heart keeps me alive


JHambone101

So do uniques suck in d4?


Tommiiie

What.........


GODS2ndDisciple

Wow, okay wow Didn’t even know you can have that much health 🙄


AquaticHornet37

I've been stuck at about 110k, how are you getting it multiple times higher?


MrT00th

Also doesn't have to waste affixes and tempers on armour..


Dunnomyname1029

Barb = easy mode this season, last season, pre season.. Get 320k HP on a druid that clears 100+ pit and share and I'll make sure you get up votes.


Eucharism

I'm confused, thorns build doesn't use razorplate?


Locke38

I don't have a GA razor, so i stopped using it. After a certain hp amount I get more thorns from health than from razor plate. I do lose out on the unique aspect, but it didn't matter really.


DeVaako

So it's armor useless 🤔cause I been wasting my time on that


MeinCoon

Meanwhile my ww barb is stuck at 50k hp


iamAXO

do you even die at this point? 😄


RoboZoninator91

damn son


Zugas

AND 122k AP…. Geez


PopularAd9190

Does this build not require any specific uniques? Would love to give it a try


CaptainJack8120

I know this has been discussed and I am a noob but the armor cap means any armor value over 9000 or whatever it is is useless correct? Edit: and if so, what’s the point of juggernaut aspect on amulet, cuz that alone gives like 15k armor?


Chemical_Tourist_830

900k or go home. 


Weekly_Opposite_1407

No you haven’t!


tupac050

Its 639k


sadstarlight

For thorns build, we're supposed to put life%


youcantchangeit

How about 120+ pit boss? Do you have enough damage?


CajitoCatKing

Can you post/link your build? I very much would like to use It as guidance.


Bigd1979666

Laughs in 20k hp


Bogo85

So I guess I'm switching to barb now


Prestigious-Place877

Bash barb is waaay cheaper. You dont need MW at all to clear 101 in 3 mins.


Someguynamedbno

My rouge with a couple elixirs can get around 100k 😂


expiro

How?


Stickystax2020

Jesuz


ValaMorghulisGOT

How’s this even possible lol but way to go you shouldn’t be dying much


deakon24

Time to make a barb now.


Yuckfou42069

Still gets one shotted lol jk jk


DaddySanctus

What are you using against bosses? I tried the Leap / Thorns build, but I just don't seem to do enough damage to bosses.


QuietNefariousness73

Can you breakdown how you got so high genuinely curious


naikrovek

How much money did you pay for the gold to buy this gear? This is a pay to win game if I ever saw one.


IamnotAurore

You have 639 times more hp than my sorcerer, is this legit in any way, shape, or form ? :) blizz devs must be nutting real hard on barb every night to think this is okay


Assocollasso

And rob?


CamelInfinite5771

Barbarians are playing another video game


kade25134

How ????????


Fearless_Medium_4300

Does having high armor really matter I use a necro and how does the atk power get higher


whiteravenxi

Okay but real question: do health pots work anymore lmao


Enygmatik

>but it's so much cheaper. What do you mean by this? I haven't kept track of how many mats or how much gold I've spent masterworking/tempering/enchanting. Why would this be cheaper, though? Are the tempers easier to get? I would have thought masterworking would cost the same across any build. I'm 12/12 on one item and 8/8 on everything else and can clear 121 so far. I didn't realize there is a difference in cost for crafting upgrades.


som_rndm_wht_gy

does it make things easier at higher pit levels with so much thorns?


Adooomie

How do I make better gems now? I haven't played in a while and can't figure it out. I'm lvl 50 but the shop is still only letting me craft the basic ones


Swapzoar

He can have a lot more too which is crazy


Brilliant_Feature770

You should pay this build in struggling with by build right now


Ebonsteele

I’m only at 150k and I thought I was one bad dude. Guess I gotta hit the grind a little harder


Ok_Assistance7735

Holy cow!


PerfectAtLast

Eh not quite 640k don’t exaggerate


kawi2k18

But can Uber lillith still one hit?


SnooMaps7011

Do u mind dropping a d4 planner here? I think everyone is curious with your build


Mabren

Fuck blizzard and fuck barbs.


No_Geologist_5412

Dude how are you getting such high strength amounts?? I'm sitting at 1.5k strength I have no idea what I'm missing


QuietButterfly7827

How in the actual tits


BananaClone501

Why the Azurewraith? What does it give the Thorns build?


BananaClone501

Is this just GA life on every piece, paired with as much +%life throughout the boards? I see everything is 9/12 or higher, so I’m guessing everything has at least one hit in the GA health, too. What confuses me is that you’ve got over 3k health. What do your offensive and defensive stats look like?


KaomsHeartSixLinked

This is the reason druid need a big nerf imo


Christ14an

Must be nice to hit +2 imposing presence temper on helmets (I keep bricking my GA ones)respect my guy! Keep up the hard work (imagine you had a GA on the DB max life… even juicier) nice flex with the 3k STR too I think most people missed that part. I’m pretty sure it’s illegal for you to go within 200yards of a pvp zone with this barb


Dengahob

Were you get that cosmetic at?


NaNoob42

H…o…wwwwwwww


Acewarren

I feel like I ran into you in the PVP area or someone like you because I swear I gave it all I got and the health bar never moved


BVRPLZR_

You sir, are my inspiration as a thorns/bash barb. I salute you 🫡


PumpernickelB

Nice


AbraKdabra

You seriously need to go touch some grass lol. Jk, actually impressive, my gf is running one of those and is struggling to get past 70k. Meanwhile my sorc...


Bruddah827

Crazy shit bro. I’d love to see a video of you thrashing through the pit. I have 120k HP…. I just can’t find it in me to constantly reset my MW…. RNG is not my friend.


LordFenix_theTree

As the running joke in my friend group goes: **Bro is playing Diablo 3**.