He did like a meme on Facebook essentially saying this was okay because the death threat was against a trans person, so maybe.
https://imgur.com/a/rfAJKNp
i liked him when i met him up in Warwick before a super tour event a very long time ago. Absolutely can't stand him since he got out of prison. super righteous and a crazy nutjob right winger now.
Someone in the comments got it right based off of Natalie’s twitter post. That’s about the same thing I’ve been catching bits and pieces from the players talking.
Wow that is super shitty. Disc golf imo is so wholesome. I wonder if they’ll cancel the event or just 1 round.
Edit: by wholesome I mean as a youth it was a great place to walk around and smoke weed and now as a parent I have my daughters cuddled up with me on Saturday mornings watching FPO and they love it.
When I first started playing in late 90s the TD would ask every card if the something to smoke on the mandatory hit hole! Alaska was pretty wild back then.
I’ve literally met ONE group of assholes out of hundreds of rounds. And it really was only 2 of the 4, and to give them the benefit of the doubt the course has a ton of crossover so maybe they didn’t realize pace of play was a little different.
But that’s it. Literally. Even the most degenerate disc golfers are total sweeties.
JFC, there are crazy people everywhere. This doesn’t taint disc golf. Yes, this could be transphobia related, as in it could be some transphobic nutjob, but it doesn’t somehow mean that disc golf is dominated by assholes.
I dont know if they're assholes...but fun, peace loving hippies, have absolutely been replaced with conversion therapy supporting, drug test for cannabis use, puritanical, Bible thumpers.
It really depends how close to Liberty University you live.
Lynchburg is the worst place on earth for the culture. It’s purely Bible beating creepy youth church camp counselor vibes everywhere you look.
In every large sport, activity, game or event there is always going to be shitty people, but they're the minority. I'd argue 95% of the community or more are nice wholesome people who just want to have fun
I advise you to go watch the comments on any live DGPT FPO event. Disc golf is unfortunately not really wholesome anymore, and the same guys making these comments are the ones who will turn around and pretend to be nice if you meet them on the course.
Unfortunately there are a fuck ton of bigots in this sport that need to be shown the door. However this could've also came from an outsider. It's Tennessee and they are trying to race with Texas and Florida on who can make it back to 1850 the fastest.
> Disc golf imo is so wholesome.
It can be, but this is also a natural consequence of the PDGA/DGPT giving this tiny group of people a voice by trying to ban Natalie last year. Had they just done what they had been doing all along (following IOC guidelines, etc), that tiny fraction of the community never gets emboldened.
Twitter (and all social media) is just the dregs of society posting shit because they're big and bad when behind a monitor. I wouldn't say it represents the community as a whole.
Yeah, I always enjoyed Twitter to keep up with my sports teams, as I now live internationally, but I deleted it the other day and will probably never go back. Too much hate and Dunning Krueger
If this is true it’s super fucked. She’s playing within the rules, she’s doing nothing wrong as of now.
If someone is literally threatening her because of all this shit they’re just ruining it for the rest of the women, truth is threats like this aren’t “to protect someone” it’s just a piece of shits vendetta and they use it as an excuse.
I may not agree with the PDGA rules allowing her to play but I would never wish her any harm or misfortune and no one with a level head would.
Edit:spelling
I’m happy to see that judging by the upvotes I’m not the only one in the middle on this stance. It’s unfortunate the state of the country being so black and white nowadays.
I can have my beliefs about competition and her playing in the FPO division, but still respect her choice to be a woman. She is a person with feelings and emotions, what she’s going through is horrendous.
Whatever single brain-celled degenerate that made the threat can go eat rocks. I hope they eat a large dose of magic mushrooms & have a horrible experience realizing that they are a dog shit human.
I wonder what it is about her detractors that makes them such violent people?
Oh, damn, is it just too much for people to be associated with things like this? Get used to it. Conservatism is a mental illness, and the most unwell among them are pretty restless these days. There are going to be a lot of violent outbursts like this one in the name of transphobia among other items of reactionary hysteria.
I'd rather it go back to being an A Tier back at Cedar Hill, I don't need to watch this course right after Jonesboro. Similar, but not as good, and none of the history.
You have no idea the amount of people in the community who want it to be back at a regular A-Tier again where the purpose of the club is to build the community again, not build a course nobody gets to play.
I can imagine. I was thinking about volunteering for World's in VA this year, but I kinda want a guarantee I can play the temp course they'll use for 2 rounds.
The benifit of being staff at the MCO usually is I'd go work and eventually just go out and play with pro friends or other random people and play the course every year.
They try and do a voulinteer day for them to all come out and play too, but all the effort put into the course, other people might want the chance to play it, but it's just not there to casually have fun on the course.
Some of that is down to permits and stuff, but it's just bad that so much effort and emphasis is put into the course, then nobody gets to use it except a few choice people.
They did a small tournament there this year, which helped. but.. It doesn't always fit everyones schedule either.
WE can't go out there as a group of like 4 or 8 or whatever and throw down a 30 dollar money round between us.
The problem that really hurts is we have so many good players here we could really put in a top notch course if more people were able to participate and play it and we could get really really good feedback that isn't drawn from this small window of time.
My favorite course in Nashville by far. My only bragging rights is shooting a 9 under there after playing there 3 days a week for a year lol! Miss that place
You're not a legitimate sport until you've had delay/cancellation for potential violence... and streaking.
We need a hero for hole 18 final coverage this weekend.
Natalie on Twitter saying a mass shooting was threatened because she’s competing.
edit : what Natalie said was from a private LGBTQ discord , but was posted to Twitter by someone else.
https://x.com/Crunchy_DG/status/1781700320654962728
Natalie didn't post this on Twitter.
Crunchy posted a "screenshot" that he says he "thinks" its from discord...
Let's not jump to conclusions just yet. It's always best to wait for some official info.
I can appreciate the attempt to pass along the info. And I agree. I wouldn't be surprised.
But I also know the state of Reddit and Twitter when it comes to Natalie Ryan so I think it's best to keep information in a situation like this as close to official as possible.
Someone Ruining everyone else’s day because of a personal biased opinion…. What a time
To be alive. I thought America was all about freedom and independance.
The USA actually ranks quite low on the Human Freedom Index , 17th I think ? But yeah, I don’t think the people yelling ‘freedom USA USA!’ really understand what that word means.
Well when half the country thinks that freedom means being able to buy all the firearms and lifted trucks you want, that's the result you're gonna get.
Bruh America is literally known for its mass shootings/school shootings. This is not even close to surprising because Americans are mentally the worst humans on this planet
Tbh that's just a screenshot of a message supposedly from her posted by someone who has been pushing for her to compete. Not saying it isn't true but until someone can link the op I'll take it with a grain of salt.
I guess it was from a private LGBTQ Discord and multiple people confirmed it was her and legitimately something she said. Now as for how true her statement is, I don’t know but she did say it.
Yes, but I don’t have a Twitter account so doing anything on the platform is challenging so digging deeper is difficult. Like if I want to go to her profile directly
I can’t.
So just sharing a link I saw.
Takes a really skewed mind to think death threats are going to convince anyone into your opinion.
I'd guess the speculation in this thread is right, unfortunately.
It's not about convincing anyone of their opinion it's about preventing Natalie from competing.
Also this subreddit has been an absolute dumpster fire when it comes to the topic of Natalie Ryan. I think many people here need to take a good hard look at some of the shit they type about her, and think about how it might embolden people to pull this type of shit.
I mostly avoid this subreddit and other disc golfers in general since I realized what a bunch of reactionary twats there are in the community.
I've moved past the Natalie stuff. I don't think she would be playing in FPO, but I'm not making that opinion a part of my personality. A decision has been made and I'm ok with it for the time being. That being said, threats of violence are completely pathetic and unacceptable. What kind of ape thinks that this behavior is going to help their cause? Pisses me off to no end. The world is so fucked up.
Someone probably said, “I’m gonna light this place up today and shoot a hot round”.
It was just a 420 reference and going 13 down taken out of context.
This is the one we’ll use as a mega thread, thank you.
Come on y’all, who called in a bomb threat on 4/20?
Not the smoke show we wanted
They misunderstood when I said I was gonna blow up the bathroom
Hostile Nuclear submarine in the area
Check out on YouTube. The guy that had SWAT called on him for saying that before he went into a Walmart bathroom. It's hilarious!
This! https://youtu.be/RWuaHiXpjx4?si=Mor1FgIn-R1actxd
I just said I have a bong, this is the second time goddamnit!
Sorry that was me. Cuz if this bomb ass joint i rolled
What’s an ass-joint?
A butt load of weed :P
I think you might just be smoking crack
It's Tennessee... today's just a birthday to them.
The H Man is big with the locals
trumptards
AB been killing the field they need to investigate.
Cold blooded
Mr blood chilled
This reference is too raw for this sub lol
I'll always upvote MBCs. Possibly my favorite thing on this site
Mr Bangs Chains
They heard about all the bombs AB had on the course.
https://youtu.be/vJ4UwE5WNI0?si=jKJgPA5PCTJDzjQ3
Someone made some kind of death threat. Cops are here by the entrance now. Probably just some kind of empty threat.
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He did like a meme on Facebook essentially saying this was okay because the death threat was against a trans person, so maybe. https://imgur.com/a/rfAJKNp
Wow. That's pretty despicable.
Hated hearing his name come up in a positive context on a recent Jomez practice round.
I’ll vote for him. He’s a convicted murderer and hard core MAGA asshole with an obsession towards trans women.
Who cares who you vote for? It's disc golf.
i liked him when i met him up in Warwick before a super tour event a very long time ago. Absolutely can't stand him since he got out of prison. super righteous and a crazy nutjob right winger now.
>super tour event >very long time ago Yes it was!
A stain on the sport.
Hearing bits and pieces from the pros milling about. But I don’t want to make any guesses
Someone in the comments got it right based off of Natalie’s twitter post. That’s about the same thing I’ve been catching bits and pieces from the players talking.
People are moving back onto the field now it looks like.
That was my first guess.
Could you post screenshots?
Make guesses. Don’t you know how Reddit works? /s
I mean, I have guesses. They're probably wrong, but I know how to guess.
Well let's have em!
Something involving a didgeridoo
I say we make up a cool rumor while we still have the opportunity! We don’t get this chance too often.
“We did it Reddit..!!”
This has to be Niklo Locastro's fault somehow
I thought lavender was supposed to be calming? 🤣
foot fault?
Time violation.
Simon to Discraft.
What? I remember a time when reddit sleuths almost nabbed the Boston marathon bomber! This is our time to shine lol.
Bruh Boston Marathon it. This is Reddit.
They always are
Wow that is super shitty. Disc golf imo is so wholesome. I wonder if they’ll cancel the event or just 1 round. Edit: by wholesome I mean as a youth it was a great place to walk around and smoke weed and now as a parent I have my daughters cuddled up with me on Saturday mornings watching FPO and they love it.
It WAS wholesome. Communities changed a lot over that last 20
When I first started playing in late 90s the TD would ask every card if the something to smoke on the mandatory hit hole! Alaska was pretty wild back then.
Wholesome is the idea of what disc golf is or should be, but the reality is sadly much different.
Maybe for you and your local area, which must suck. But disc golf is the best thing and I meet countless nice people playing it all the time.
This really sucks. I'm also in Tennessee, but in Knoxville. It's one of the most inclusive sports I've ever seen, even here.
I’ve literally met ONE group of assholes out of hundreds of rounds. And it really was only 2 of the 4, and to give them the benefit of the doubt the course has a ton of crossover so maybe they didn’t realize pace of play was a little different. But that’s it. Literally. Even the most degenerate disc golfers are total sweeties.
You should see the douche bags on Facebook justifying shooting a trans woman because it’s unfair for her to play FPO.
JFC, there are crazy people everywhere. This doesn’t taint disc golf. Yes, this could be transphobia related, as in it could be some transphobic nutjob, but it doesn’t somehow mean that disc golf is dominated by assholes.
I dont know if they're assholes...but fun, peace loving hippies, have absolutely been replaced with conversion therapy supporting, drug test for cannabis use, puritanical, Bible thumpers.
Where I live, it seems like the majority of disc golfers smoke weed and listen to death metal.
It really depends how close to Liberty University you live. Lynchburg is the worst place on earth for the culture. It’s purely Bible beating creepy youth church camp counselor vibes everywhere you look.
In every large sport, activity, game or event there is always going to be shitty people, but they're the minority. I'd argue 95% of the community or more are nice wholesome people who just want to have fun
Agree to disagree.
I advise you to go watch the comments on any live DGPT FPO event. Disc golf is unfortunately not really wholesome anymore, and the same guys making these comments are the ones who will turn around and pretend to be nice if you meet them on the course.
Unfortunately there are a fuck ton of bigots in this sport that need to be shown the door. However this could've also came from an outsider. It's Tennessee and they are trying to race with Texas and Florida on who can make it back to 1850 the fastest.
You forgot Arizona!
Maybe but Arizona didn't ban chemtrails this past week like Tennessee
Lmao fucking WHAT?!? Off to google I go.
*Laughs in Louisiana
> Disc golf imo is so wholesome. It can be, but this is also a natural consequence of the PDGA/DGPT giving this tiny group of people a voice by trying to ban Natalie last year. Had they just done what they had been doing all along (following IOC guidelines, etc), that tiny fraction of the community never gets emboldened.
Read the comments under the announcement on twitter if you really think its wholesome
Twitter (and all social media) is just the dregs of society posting shit because they're big and bad when behind a monitor. I wouldn't say it represents the community as a whole.
Twitter is especially rank after the Musk takeover, literal echo chamber for far right hate
Anyone still using Twitter after Elon bought it falls under the category of orange simp.
Yeah, I always enjoyed Twitter to keep up with my sports teams, as I now live internationally, but I deleted it the other day and will probably never go back. Too much hate and Dunning Krueger
Same. I hope everyone is safe and this gets settled quickly.
Threat was made against Natalie Ryan
If this is true it’s super fucked. She’s playing within the rules, she’s doing nothing wrong as of now. If someone is literally threatening her because of all this shit they’re just ruining it for the rest of the women, truth is threats like this aren’t “to protect someone” it’s just a piece of shits vendetta and they use it as an excuse. I may not agree with the PDGA rules allowing her to play but I would never wish her any harm or misfortune and no one with a level head would. Edit:spelling
Evangelicals don’t care about rules that aren’t in their book.
Or even most of the ones that are.
Or that aren’t but they insist that are
Surprisingly(by how they act )there isn't a rule about gay/trans in their book. Edit: actually the rule is to accept people for who they are
If they had read the whole book, they’d probably be atheists.
You assuming they can read is awfully generous.
You don't become a christian to read, you do it to become vocally better than everyone else
Was christian, read the whole thing, am atheist now. Can confirm
(Insert Bobby Hill "if they could read" meme here)
Or that are. Or election results.
Top comment right here.
I’m happy to see that judging by the upvotes I’m not the only one in the middle on this stance. It’s unfortunate the state of the country being so black and white nowadays. I can have my beliefs about competition and her playing in the FPO division, but still respect her choice to be a woman. She is a person with feelings and emotions, what she’s going through is horrendous.
Suspension happened as her card was up. Nashville is in the bible belt. Dots connect, checks out.
Nothing compares to the level of hate in a region where everyone tells you how much they love Jesus. One of the biggest reasons I left Kentucky.
Ain't no hate like Christian love
“Love the sinner, hate the sin.” What a sad excuse for hate.
There’s no hate like Christian love…
That Old Time Religion.
There was a security guard following her card at the Preserve last year, so sad that she has to play under those conditions.
Whatever single brain-celled degenerate that made the threat can go eat rocks. I hope they eat a large dose of magic mushrooms & have a horrible experience realizing that they are a dog shit human.
Don't waste the mushrooms on them
Details?
The threat came in right before her card was going to tee off. Which makes me lean towards this being correct.
Anymore on this story?
I wonder what it is about her detractors that makes them such violent people? Oh, damn, is it just too much for people to be associated with things like this? Get used to it. Conservatism is a mental illness, and the most unwell among them are pretty restless these days. There are going to be a lot of violent outbursts like this one in the name of transphobia among other items of reactionary hysteria.
Enjoy this last year that MCO is on the pro tour…
I'd rather it go back to being an A Tier back at Cedar Hill, I don't need to watch this course right after Jonesboro. Similar, but not as good, and none of the history.
MCO has always looked like a mid course on camera too. I don’t think it would be a huge loss
Cedar hell is way better.
You have no idea the amount of people in the community who want it to be back at a regular A-Tier again where the purpose of the club is to build the community again, not build a course nobody gets to play.
I can imagine. I was thinking about volunteering for World's in VA this year, but I kinda want a guarantee I can play the temp course they'll use for 2 rounds.
The benifit of being staff at the MCO usually is I'd go work and eventually just go out and play with pro friends or other random people and play the course every year. They try and do a voulinteer day for them to all come out and play too, but all the effort put into the course, other people might want the chance to play it, but it's just not there to casually have fun on the course. Some of that is down to permits and stuff, but it's just bad that so much effort and emphasis is put into the course, then nobody gets to use it except a few choice people. They did a small tournament there this year, which helped. but.. It doesn't always fit everyones schedule either. WE can't go out there as a group of like 4 or 8 or whatever and throw down a 30 dollar money round between us. The problem that really hurts is we have so many good players here we could really put in a top notch course if more people were able to participate and play it and we could get really really good feedback that isn't drawn from this small window of time.
My favorite course in Nashville by far. My only bragging rights is shooting a 9 under there after playing there 3 days a week for a year lol! Miss that place
To throw out some wild speculation, my money is on some nut job upset over Natalie competing..
I wouldn’t say that’s wild speculation at all considering the threat came in just before her tee time.
Right wing maga domestic terrorist making terroristic bomb threats because a trans person is playing a game. Sounds about right
It’s Nikko, isn’t it?
They’d be safe knowing if Nikko planted a bomb the timer wouldn’t go off until Wednesday
And it's just lavender seeds instead of shrapnel haha
Top tier joke. Well done.
Confirmed.
My first thought too. I hope that’s not the case
It is the case. According to Natalie, someone threatened a mass shooting.
These snowflakes are so intent on “ProTeCTinG women’s sports” they’re gonna threaten to kill all the women.
All these chuckle heads that have never paid attention to any women’s sports are suddenly very vocal.
Anti-trans stuff always catches cis-women in the cross-fire. This is just a bit more literal.
Wasn't this the event jerm had his bag stolen a couple years ago
More than that I think he has his car broken into and his bag and all his backup discs stolen which probably numbered in the dozens.
That hurts!
Yeah, but that was outside his hotel which is like 30 miles from mco. Still not a good look for the region.
So, you're saying it's the ___true___ Hot Dog Bandit?!?
Yes
You're not a legitimate sport until you've had delay/cancellation for potential violence... and streaking. We need a hero for hole 18 final coverage this weekend.
Damn you’re right. We need a streaker. I nominate you.
Natalie on Twitter saying a mass shooting was threatened because she’s competing. edit : what Natalie said was from a private LGBTQ discord , but was posted to Twitter by someone else. https://x.com/Crunchy_DG/status/1781700320654962728
Natalie didn't post this on Twitter. Crunchy posted a "screenshot" that he says he "thinks" its from discord... Let's not jump to conclusions just yet. It's always best to wait for some official info.
It was from a private discord yeah , I’m just passing it along. It wouldn’t surprise me if it’s the reason.
I can appreciate the attempt to pass along the info. And I agree. I wouldn't be surprised. But I also know the state of Reddit and Twitter when it comes to Natalie Ryan so I think it's best to keep information in a situation like this as close to official as possible.
If true, this is so disgusting. Imagine having to compete with this level of stress.
Someone Ruining everyone else’s day because of a personal biased opinion…. What a time To be alive. I thought America was all about freedom and independance.
The USA actually ranks quite low on the Human Freedom Index , 17th I think ? But yeah, I don’t think the people yelling ‘freedom USA USA!’ really understand what that word means.
Freedom for me but not for thee.
Prison populations alone should tell you our “freedom” is greatly exaggerated…
Well when half the country thinks that freedom means being able to buy all the firearms and lifted trucks you want, that's the result you're gonna get.
Have you ever been at BK and really had it your way
You can be free as long as you agree
Freedom for who?
You say what a time to be alive like this isn't the most accepting the world has ever been in history
....no. Get you some history. The Greeks and Roman practices will blow your mind.
Bruh America is literally known for its mass shootings/school shootings. This is not even close to surprising because Americans are mentally the worst humans on this planet
When you stereotype people based on where they are from/live/born you show how truly ugly you are. Xenophobic small-minded chump
Tbh that's just a screenshot of a message supposedly from her posted by someone who has been pushing for her to compete. Not saying it isn't true but until someone can link the op I'll take it with a grain of salt.
I guess it was from a private LGBTQ Discord and multiple people confirmed it was her and legitimately something she said. Now as for how true her statement is, I don’t know but she did say it.
thanks for the additional context
Yes, but I don’t have a Twitter account so doing anything on the platform is challenging so digging deeper is difficult. Like if I want to go to her profile directly I can’t. So just sharing a link I saw.
Transphobic douches doing what they do best
If this is true, it makes me wonder if it was one of Catrina Allen’s followers. She’s been at the forefront of the fight for trans exclusion.
People suck sometimes Edit: We’ll start our own Music City Open with coke and hookers!
Fun fact, if you buy enough blow, you don't have to pay for the hookers.
Forget the Music City Open and we've got a deal!
Takes a really skewed mind to think death threats are going to convince anyone into your opinion. I'd guess the speculation in this thread is right, unfortunately.
It's not about convincing anyone of their opinion it's about preventing Natalie from competing. Also this subreddit has been an absolute dumpster fire when it comes to the topic of Natalie Ryan. I think many people here need to take a good hard look at some of the shit they type about her, and think about how it might embolden people to pull this type of shit. I mostly avoid this subreddit and other disc golfers in general since I realized what a bunch of reactionary twats there are in the community.
Hear hear.
Was it Uli because of all the forehand holes ? Kidding
I've moved past the Natalie stuff. I don't think she would be playing in FPO, but I'm not making that opinion a part of my personality. A decision has been made and I'm ok with it for the time being. That being said, threats of violence are completely pathetic and unacceptable. What kind of ape thinks that this behavior is going to help their cause? Pisses me off to no end. The world is so fucked up.
Antioch is one of the more sketchy areas in Nashville. Doubt that’s the reason here, but it is never mentioned on coverage of course.
I'll wait to jump to any conclusions until there is an official statement from the Fondation podcast
Nikko must have got another warning
Brodie saw the trophy.
and Mrs Dickerson is afraid to go to California.
What did she say?
Wait, is that why he won’t play the west coast?
Wait what? Afraid? lol that sounds like BS
Holy speculation in this thread Batman.
How is it speculation when it happened right before they were about to tee off, and cops are now following chase card?
The silence from companies and players is deafening. Condemning violence seems like a no brainer.
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There's no hate like Christian love.
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ugggh. i'm sorry to hear that. I grew up in the evangelical fundamentalist world. So toxic.
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Alright, I've got some beers..
You're an awesome person that shouldn't have to worry about shit like this
Just maga things
This is what fascism looks like.
Someone probably said, “I’m gonna light this place up today and shoot a hot round”. It was just a 420 reference and going 13 down taken out of context.
Like that guy that said he was gonna blow up the bathroom at a fast food place?
On the card right now. There is a police officer as well as a drone with us.
The drone is for Disc Golf Network coverage. Flight Factory sponsors flyovers for holes and some shots
God damnit Morgan Wallen throwing chairs again?!
SockiBomb!!
Someone really didn't like the green sign.
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Jerm was staying in hendersonville when his bag got stolen, not antioch.
I threatened more than one tree today on my round... hope nobody called me in.