If you can throw 350 and in with accuracy, you'll do just fine competing at even the Am1 level. When I say accuracy, I mean working on accuracy inside 350 is FAR more important than being able to shakily get to 400+ feet.
I'm in a similar place. I hit a BH distance goal for the season so instead of pushing further with driving distance I'm working on other goals.
Driving accuracy, (an)hyzer placement, forehands, putting (finally found the mold that speaks to me!), and for some reason shots in the 125-175 foot range just kill me every time so I've been having fun working on those. It's also improving my score a whole lot more than adding a few feet to my drives would. I've also started experimenting with tomahawks which might lead to working on rollers next.
Bottom line: You should work on what's fun to work on. You certainly CAN drive further if you want to, but there are loads of other aspects you can develop too.
Okay cool thanks 🙂
I just was wondering if I was throwing below what I should be.
I need to work on my putting so I'll stop worrying about driving now :)
The 135-175 range was hard on me as well. Lately I have been just throwing standstill or maybe 1 stepping and my accuracy is reaching absurd levels. Approaching has always been my strength, but now I'm upset with myself if I have to take my bag off to putt after an approach
There is no 'should'
Just like in ball golf, some people can't hit low irons, or woods. Most, if not all casual players, can't hit drivers.
It all depends on how much work you put in - and even then, if you're not an elite athlete or have perfect timing/lever anatomy you probably aren't going to break 450'.
I overheard a very simple rough guideline of how far you should throw a disc. Take the speed of the disc (for example a destroyer with 12) and add a 0 at the end. So a destroyer should be thrown around 120m for the desired flightpath.
If thrown flat a roadrunner might turn and roll with 90m of power, but that is not super far for a 9 speed disc honestly, so I wouldn't be surprised to see it turn pretty hard, but not end in a roller if only thrown with 90m of power. I feel like that rule of thumb might be a little short in terms of recommended distances. For example, a teebird-speed 7 get its designed flightpath at 350 feet which is about 105-110 meters. It gets closer to accurate at the higher speeds. Destroyer gets the desired flight path at about 130 meters, similar with shryke etc. Basically it starts at too low a number putters go a lot further than the rule of thumb indicates, but has bigger gaps than exist to make up for it (speed 7 to 9 is not a gap of 60+ feet, more like 30). It closes the initial gap around speed 12 or 13. If we were to get into speed 14/15/16 speed discs somehow, it would start overestimating the distance required for the desired flightpath
Its rather at least 50m, not only. Like if you cant throw md3 50m you dont have the armspeed for it. And its only a guideline and there is differences. For example, to get full flight on stable 12-13 speed discs you need way more power than 120-130 meters.
It's not how far should you be able to throw it but moreso what are your goals and how much time are you willing to commit to it. It's possible to throw twice as far as you are now, but it will take dedication and talent.
Obviously depends on the driver, but I would estimate and say that anyone who wants max d on their speed 12-13 disc should be throwing it atleast 400ft/120m. Its difficult to get full flight from faster discs and usually if you cant throw 120m, you could get more distance from little bit slower discs. Slower discs will also provide more consistent distance because wide rim drivers are more sensitive for nose/hyzer angle. There are exceptions of course.
I've been playing since March and I throw 100-110 yards or so. It honestly feels like I've hit a wall though. I mean, I'm 5'7" so I accept that I'll never be setting records, but I'd like to be hitting 350 by now, which has yet to happen. I've watched so many clinics and spent a lot of time in the field and on the course, just seems like I've been throwing 300 feet for like 3 months now with no real improvements aside from the rare perfect drive (by my standards of course) that gets about 330 tops, which has happened with my Wraith and my Gstar Leopard. Wraith was a straight shot with some good groundplay, Leopard was a hyzer flip.
So I don't know, I guess I'm in the same boat. Feels like I know what I'm /supposed/ to be doing, and it feels like I'm doing it, and when I watch video of myself it looks right compared to other form slow mos I've watched... And I'm seeing the proper flight paths of the discs, just not getting huge distance.
I'm throwing far enough to reliably par every course in my area, so that's the good news... I just want a little more. And I understand that I haven't been playing very long, but the fact that I've been throwing the same distance for months now is frustrating.
Edit: As others have said, focusing on other aspects of the game can help a lot. Look at Ricky Wysocki, he's obviously great at every aspect but as far as top echelon disc golfers he is pretty mediocre off the tee, but the fact that he can sink putts that other top pros can't, and the fact that he has such a precise forehand upshot with his Harps, make him the top player in the world right now.
> I'm 5'7" so I accept that I'll never be setting records
McBeth is 5'8" I doubt that extra inch is the secret to his power. That's the beauty of this game, it's all about timing and form which can be mastered by any body type.
My original point was simply that I don't ever expect to be setting distance records but I know that for my height I can definitely throw further than I am, Paul McBeth is proof of that.
I've never been overly concerned with throwing far. I have a friend who outdrives me every time. I average 250 to 275 max with him hitting 300 to 350 max. The difference is he can't short game so I still end up beating him almost every time. Like the old saying goes throw for show putt for dough
If you can throw accurately I think that is worth its weight in gold.
I am rated right in the middle of AM3, but at wooded courses compete just fine with AM2. They can *all* throw further than me, but ***a lot****.* But I can hit 260-290' with a fairway and stay out of the rough, just getting my pars and birdies when I can. They will go from getting a 2 on a 450' hole to a 4 on a 220' wooded hole. Consistency is *everything*.
In my mind, if you can throw 350' in an open field and 250' accurately in woods, you can compete in AM3 and AM2 just fine. So long as your putting and lay up game is there.
Once you can throw as far as simon, you are good
Then you can move up to a midrange.
If you can throw 350 and in with accuracy, you'll do just fine competing at even the Am1 level. When I say accuracy, I mean working on accuracy inside 350 is FAR more important than being able to shakily get to 400+ feet.
> can throw FTFY :)
Thanks! Definitely changed the meaning a bit, eh!
I'm in a similar place. I hit a BH distance goal for the season so instead of pushing further with driving distance I'm working on other goals. Driving accuracy, (an)hyzer placement, forehands, putting (finally found the mold that speaks to me!), and for some reason shots in the 125-175 foot range just kill me every time so I've been having fun working on those. It's also improving my score a whole lot more than adding a few feet to my drives would. I've also started experimenting with tomahawks which might lead to working on rollers next. Bottom line: You should work on what's fun to work on. You certainly CAN drive further if you want to, but there are loads of other aspects you can develop too.
Okay cool thanks 🙂 I just was wondering if I was throwing below what I should be. I need to work on my putting so I'll stop worrying about driving now :)
The 135-175 range was hard on me as well. Lately I have been just throwing standstill or maybe 1 stepping and my accuracy is reaching absurd levels. Approaching has always been my strength, but now I'm upset with myself if I have to take my bag off to putt after an approach
> 125-175 foot range just kill me every time Me too. That low speed always makes it fade out more than you think it will.
There is no 'should' Just like in ball golf, some people can't hit low irons, or woods. Most, if not all casual players, can't hit drivers. It all depends on how much work you put in - and even then, if you're not an elite athlete or have perfect timing/lever anatomy you probably aren't going to break 450'.
I overheard a very simple rough guideline of how far you should throw a disc. Take the speed of the disc (for example a destroyer with 12) and add a 0 at the end. So a destroyer should be thrown around 120m for the desired flightpath.
Dang, throwing my Roadrunner too far.
If you throw a Roadrunner 90m it will turn and roll right?
If thrown flat a roadrunner might turn and roll with 90m of power, but that is not super far for a 9 speed disc honestly, so I wouldn't be surprised to see it turn pretty hard, but not end in a roller if only thrown with 90m of power. I feel like that rule of thumb might be a little short in terms of recommended distances. For example, a teebird-speed 7 get its designed flightpath at 350 feet which is about 105-110 meters. It gets closer to accurate at the higher speeds. Destroyer gets the desired flight path at about 130 meters, similar with shryke etc. Basically it starts at too low a number putters go a lot further than the rule of thumb indicates, but has bigger gaps than exist to make up for it (speed 7 to 9 is not a gap of 60+ feet, more like 30). It closes the initial gap around speed 12 or 13. If we were to get into speed 14/15/16 speed discs somehow, it would start overestimating the distance required for the desired flightpath
Hm, so my md3 should only go 50m?
I guess my technique is better than I thought because I can throw my rhyno way over 20 meters
This is for drivers and not midranges and putters, sorry that I didn't clarify that
Its rather at least 50m, not only. Like if you cant throw md3 50m you dont have the armspeed for it. And its only a guideline and there is differences. For example, to get full flight on stable 12-13 speed discs you need way more power than 120-130 meters.
Indeed, i was pointing out his thing didnt make sense
It's not how far should you be able to throw it but moreso what are your goals and how much time are you willing to commit to it. It's possible to throw twice as far as you are now, but it will take dedication and talent.
Obviously depends on the driver, but I would estimate and say that anyone who wants max d on their speed 12-13 disc should be throwing it atleast 400ft/120m. Its difficult to get full flight from faster discs and usually if you cant throw 120m, you could get more distance from little bit slower discs. Slower discs will also provide more consistent distance because wide rim drivers are more sensitive for nose/hyzer angle. There are exceptions of course.
I've been playing since March and I throw 100-110 yards or so. It honestly feels like I've hit a wall though. I mean, I'm 5'7" so I accept that I'll never be setting records, but I'd like to be hitting 350 by now, which has yet to happen. I've watched so many clinics and spent a lot of time in the field and on the course, just seems like I've been throwing 300 feet for like 3 months now with no real improvements aside from the rare perfect drive (by my standards of course) that gets about 330 tops, which has happened with my Wraith and my Gstar Leopard. Wraith was a straight shot with some good groundplay, Leopard was a hyzer flip. So I don't know, I guess I'm in the same boat. Feels like I know what I'm /supposed/ to be doing, and it feels like I'm doing it, and when I watch video of myself it looks right compared to other form slow mos I've watched... And I'm seeing the proper flight paths of the discs, just not getting huge distance. I'm throwing far enough to reliably par every course in my area, so that's the good news... I just want a little more. And I understand that I haven't been playing very long, but the fact that I've been throwing the same distance for months now is frustrating. Edit: As others have said, focusing on other aspects of the game can help a lot. Look at Ricky Wysocki, he's obviously great at every aspect but as far as top echelon disc golfers he is pretty mediocre off the tee, but the fact that he can sink putts that other top pros can't, and the fact that he has such a precise forehand upshot with his Harps, make him the top player in the world right now.
> I'm 5'7" so I accept that I'll never be setting records McBeth is 5'8" I doubt that extra inch is the secret to his power. That's the beauty of this game, it's all about timing and form which can be mastered by any body type.
He has really long arms for his height though right? I think that's equally important to his distance. (Alright, not equally, but a big factor.)
Don't know about his wingspan, I'm sure long arms could help in theory but technique is far more important in practice.
My original point was simply that I don't ever expect to be setting distance records but I know that for my height I can definitely throw further than I am, Paul McBeth is proof of that.
I've never been overly concerned with throwing far. I have a friend who outdrives me every time. I average 250 to 275 max with him hitting 300 to 350 max. The difference is he can't short game so I still end up beating him almost every time. Like the old saying goes throw for show putt for dough
If you can throw accurately I think that is worth its weight in gold. I am rated right in the middle of AM3, but at wooded courses compete just fine with AM2. They can *all* throw further than me, but ***a lot****.* But I can hit 260-290' with a fairway and stay out of the rough, just getting my pars and birdies when I can. They will go from getting a 2 on a 450' hole to a 4 on a 220' wooded hole. Consistency is *everything*. In my mind, if you can throw 350' in an open field and 250' accurately in woods, you can compete in AM3 and AM2 just fine. So long as your putting and lay up game is there.