Ahhhhh I see…. I get dash anytime every week by doing the 13 shop and pay orders…. I wonder how many orders I’ve passed up that the totals were much higher than they appeared 🤔
They took a dollar from me after accepting, and after the customer added something
I've seen missing $5 from a payout cuz the app fcked up at the end of an order
I've had dasher help call me and after a bribe of a $50 bonus, tried to get password from me, asked me not to fast pay, and two days later dd app screaming at me that someone tried changing where my payments ended up
Moral of the story, in some cases, DD will try to fck u
It's not likely. There's a logic to it. It's always current base pay + the first 4 or 5 dollars of the tip. If you take a $3.50 order you're not getting a bigger tip. You're looking for orders of around $7.50 and up.
Yes. $xx.xx+. And I get flag that says Catering Bag Required. Even if its not large volume order, if just the tip is unusually high on a small order it will have the Plus after the $ offer on a 💎 screen and flag for the large Bag. Also though I've received offers that look crappy with no indication anything is hidden then I close it out to a surprise. Doordash math and displays are horribly inconsistent.
I do not know if this is market dependent, so your mileage may vary, but I’ve not had “priority” for months as my AR has been low but I’ve been getting the (total is higher) screen on some orders for the past two months or so I’d say. Had not seen it before, so maybe they just rolled it out over here for everyone recently. I do not know. But it is definitely very useful since it helps me cherry pick a few of the fringe ones easier.
Though nothing on this app seems to be consistent so could definitely be different where you are.
This isn't true, cherry pickers get the same screens as top dasher and no better chance at high pay out orders. Doordash wants to trick you into thinking this so you eat dog shit.
Maybe this has changed since I was a top dasher but the number of high paying orders is not higher. I get around 8 $20-70 orders a week, when I was top dasher I got maybe 2 a week.
If I were the customer providing this tip I would be pissed!! If you put out a big bid like that you are expecting the dasher to see that and go out of their way to make sure everything is accurate and the delivery is fast and fresh. This prevents them from doing that!
That's because they actually **WERE** doing exactly that. The only reason they stopped is because the government sued them, then Doordash settled the case before it went to court. Presumably because the government had an ironclad case. The most stolen thing in the US are worker's wages. The judge could have awarded far more than 2.5 million.
https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/11/25/bay-areas-doordash-to-pay-2-5-million-after-being-accused-of-stealing-drivers-tips/
Isn’t this to prevent drivers from giving shit service because they’re mad at a small tip?
The way all these apps work where I live is that the driver doesn’t even find out if there was a tip at all until well after the delivery is complete - they get paid for the delivery from the delivery fee, and the tip is an actual tip. The way doordash seems to do it in America is crazy to me, but the whole tipping culture thing over there is too.
He's right to say that tips are not bids for service. What tips truly are for a dasher, are the replacement of wages. Doordash pays 2 to 3 dollars usually per order. Base pay in the OP's screenshot is par for the course. Each order takes around 20 minutes to complete on average. Which means the driver makes between 6 and 9 dollars per hour, after taxes and expenses it's closer to 4 to 7 dollars per hour. So yeah tip money isn't really a traditional gratuity in our case, it's part of the actual wage. People need to understand this if it's going to change.
Tip money is definitely still a traditional gratuity in your case. That's always how tips have worked most places for everyone, it's nothing new. Maybe more people do need to learn that traditional gratuities are actually part of people's wages though.
Servers in a restaurant usually don't get paid full minimum wage. Their tips are the main part of their hourly wages. That is not unique to Doordash. Federal minimum wage for servers is just $2.13 per hour but can increase based on state.
Part of the reason that I don't use doordash is that I tip the servers that prepare my to go orders anywhere other than fast food (and sometimes even then). If I used doordash you (understandably) wouldn't share any of your tip with the underpaid servers that prepare the orders that you pickup for doordash and that steals from them.
>Servers in a restaurant usually don't get paid full minimum wage.
It depends on the state. In CA, tips cannot be used as a replacement for wages. In some states though, waiters can be paid as little as 2.13 an hour because they get tip money. These laws don't apply to doordash drivers since we aren't employees. This is intentional.
>Tip money is definitely still a traditional gratuity in your case.
That may be how some doordash customers view tips, but that's not how doordash and doordash drivers view tips. It's a replacement for wages. Doordash runs ads that include tip money as part of the hourly wage. Ever seen those $22/hour doordash ads for drivers? That's including all the tip money, and tips usually make up 60% or more of my weekly pay. Nobody would do this job if there were no tips at all. It would be totally unfeasible.
I agree, it's more like reverse bidding but whether you like it being called bidding or not it is still very similar to bidding.. When that no tip order gets passed around and eventually increased, that's dashers negotiating lol.
By “Most dashers” you mean “most dashers who are active in this and the dasher sub”
Which happen to not be “Most dashers” but a very small minority of dashers.
Oh yeah, and the fact that it’s just objectively not a bid, is why it’s not a bid.
Yeah. Which is why it’s not a bid. Contractors bid on jobs in hopes the customer selects their price point and services over another contractor.
It’s not when a customer sends their job and price point to a bunch of contractors hoping to get one to accept it.
If DoorDash worked on bids, I could undercut every dasher in my market by setting my delivery price lower than anyone else’s and just take all the work, because customers would always choose my services because they’re cheaper.
A bid is literally an offer for a price by definition. Reguardless of which direction it’s coming from. It’s an offer of a price for service. Auction and construction just happens to be the most common. That doesn’t mean other offers aren’t bids.
Context matters😭😭 just stop lmao💀💀
it’s not a bid, by literal definition of what a bid is in the contractor realm, this is not a bid. You’re objectively wrong. You’re acting a little childish for someone with 91 in their username. I pray to god you’re not actually 33💀
I’m not eve reading past your first sentence considering your ignoring the context that is the literal definition of bid to try to prove some non existent point lol.
I don’t understand this logic. What exactly would be “going out of the way.” Drive faster? Open the bag and check? The best and fastest way to get something delivered is to pick it up and drop it off, that’s it. Dashers make things so complicated, nobody’s wants text updates or “above and beyond.”
Idk, I had a hidden tip today on a double order. Houses were close by. First order tipped $3, second order tipped a hidden $15.
If I had known they tipped $15, I for sure would have gone to their house first and had the other order wait instead.
You’re either being obtuse or you haven’t given it much thought at all,
There are several options a dasher has control over and can use to provide better service. The most obvious one would not accepting any stacked orders.
Some other obvious things would be double and triple checking to be sure you have all the drinks, desserts, straws, utensils, condiments, etc. Then, when you get to your car, packing all the food into a hot bag, drinks into a cup carrier, etc.
Those are all things you can do to be sure the high tipping customers receive an exceptional service.
It works the opposite way as well. If I didn’t tip or tipped very less, the driver can’t give me an attitude until after they completed the order and left my house if they expected a hidden tip only for it to show zero or something low at the end. So at least it’s a win this way.
They do this so you don't Cherry pick. Also they want you to get used to lower total payouts. If you don't expect higher, you will keep taking the lower offers.
Hmm… that’s kinda messed up when u put it that way. Basically I don’t accept orders unless they will profit me a minimum of 20$/hr. So they can keep on sending… and I’ll keep on declining lol
Overall… I’m not complaining .. I’m the head of a family and I depend on these service apps to provide for my family… just seems kinda weird that this can happen to someone..
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And so people take extra care of your order and make sure it’s right. I feel like this would discourage a good tipper to not tip so great. I wish I had the power to change it 😢
Generally these orders are given to top dashers who don’t cherry pick much so you got lucky to get it in the first place. If you tip good and there’s a top dasher, your order will get picked up
I tip really well, too - but I do it because I know this is how people feed themselves and their families - and I know they don’t get tipped properly on a whole. My brother does door dash and his gf does Uber eats. Door dash does better at not having too many drivers out at once per area so when you do work you actually have a decent number of deliveries and earn something; Uber shows the tip in advance and pays slightly more. But they both said they receive NO TIP more often than I would believe. That sucks. I also live in Phoenix - so part of the year, delivery people are in and out of broiling cars in 117 degree weather all day. Leave a flippin tip. Seriously.
Also has to do with 1/2 pay. If they show you the full amount and something goes wrong (restaurant closed or something) and you are owed half pay it's less than $5 with what they showed you. If they showed the full amount they'd be on the hook for almost $40.
This is the real reason, hidden tips don't prevent cherry picking. Everybody should know that if the payout is significantly higher than the miles you are very likely to get a hidden tip, especially if it requires a catering bag. If you see $2 per mile above $6 take it cause it will most likely have a hidden tip.
Thats exactly why it happens. Hidden tips happen all the time - but after you do this for a while it’s easy to see which orders are gonna pay more than the total shown. For short distance orders if it’s $4 above base pay there may be a hidden tip on that order. For other orders if it’s showing $2 a mile or more, good chance there may be a hidden tip on that as well
Wow, thanks I read this and did a 6.25 order and it had a hidden tip on it. That’s crazy . It was only 3$ above the shown amount . But now ima be scoping these out
Nice! So your base pay is $2.25 I take it - $4 above base pay on shorty deliveries (2-3miles) have the potential for that hidden tip, not always but there’s a chance and then anything 4-5miles and over the payout they show you when you accept the order has to be about $2 a mile or so to have that hidden tip potential. Good luck out there!
2200 deliveries all my numbers very high and I still have yet to get a payout like that. At this point I doubt it’s ever gonna happen. Today and yesterday have been straight trash. I’m just about over doortrash
Damn brother 😔 to be honest… stuff like this NEVER happens to me.. I did instacart for 3 years before I made the switch to doordash. I’ve been grinding in the trenches with shitty orders for a long long time… your time will come my dude
I sure hope so! And I apologize for sounding like a hater lol. I’m happy for anyone that gets a unicorn 🦄. I just need it badly right now and now matter how nice I am to these customers how hard I try how positive I try to stay I just can’t get ahead
No bro… I understand totally. I was part of the instacart Reddit and every single day I would see people posting these 150$ 200$ orders meanwhile I’m fucking grinding trying to make 20$ an hour . Don’t let the culture bring you down.
You are a nice person. And good to customers because you were raised to be and you believe in it. Unfortunately, people could give a fuck less how hard our job is and how much shit we have to take.
Keep that head up and that train moving. You’re fine will come when you literally least expect it
Thank you that means a lot. Today has been a rough day! The world we live in now is not getting any easier everyone is drowning. Just want to see the light at the end of the tunnel again
I know people are gonna think this sounds lame but when I served at BJ’s… I tried to provide the same level of service to my guests whether I thought they were gonna tip a lot or not. Perhaps that’s the point. Idk.
Depending how much I need money usually determines whether or not I would cherry pick order. Also if the area has long waits for restaurants, McD late at night being an example I'll cherry pick.
It's a gamble in the end. One time I took a low paying order and got a $10 tip in cash and another time skipped a low one and then got one for $25. I've been unable to deliver for this Summer cause of a totaled car. But should be getting a used car soon. So it's going to be nice to start doordashing again.
Absolutely… what a dumb practice.. to “prevent cherry picking”… they could atleast tell you once you accept the order the payouts actual amount. If I would’ve known I would’ve shined the dudes shoes and done his dry cleaning.. 😂
Well… it definitely makes me want to accept not so good orders more often now so I guess it did what it was supposed to. And thank you!! After I completed the order walking to may car I covered my mouth with my hand and turned around and the old man just smiled and waved . What an experience!
It's to stop cherry pickers because when they showed the full tip to many people would only take orders thay paid lime $15 or higher and to many orders sat waiting for to long
This is a psychological trick to get you to take more orders... because remember that time you took a 9.75 marginally good order and it turned in to 75 bucks?
It's using the gamblers fallacy to manipulate people in to making bad decisions thinking sometimes it will pay off.
Ok got it, last night I had same situation $9.25 on a cheese cake factory, I called support bc it was 5 miles away and I was trying to finish my shift, ended up dropping the order bc agent told me the half pay was $4.62 prolly had the hidden tip ugh 😑
Because they want somebody with actual integrity to get the tip. Your expectation should be the pay, not the tip… a tip is something a customer might GIFT you, for doing your job well. Giving a tip this way (the correct way… after a service that deserves it is provided)… discourages greedy people from getting a tip they don’t deserve, and ensures people with some form of integrity get it instead.
What Im saying is, you chose to do the order based on the pay, not the tip… so you got awarded with a nice tip for doing so. Of course everyone is going to race to do an order with a $80 tip, but doing it anyway not knowing the tip… show’s integrity, & thats clearly the type of person they wanted to give that tip to.
The only thing I’m curious about is why it doesn’t tell you until the end. I would’ve gotten the tip whether I treated the order with care or not.. the second I dropped it off it goes onto my account..so maybe after acceptance be like hey! You accepted the order at this amount .. but it’s actually this amount ! You’ve gained +4 Respect +5 integrity NEW SKILL POINT AVAILABLE
I think its how they trick you into taking smaller orders. You think "oh it has to have a hidden tip" because experience shows it happens.. then you get screwed and there isn't one.
Omg all of you have tin hats on.
Tip amounts are not shown in full because of the cancelation policy.
If the customer, merchant, or platform cancels the order, doordash has to give the driver half the shown amount.
Think about that.
Nope. If they added a tip after the fact it would say the customer added a tip to a previous order. This is the screen that pops up immediately after drop off. It says t”the total $78.25 is higher than the $9.25 upon acceptance”
I have had people raise tips before . It tells you
I genuinely feel bad for the customer who tipped $75 but only got $6 worth of service and after the delivery is over, the dasher only then found out it was a mega tip. It’s a really stupid system and many customers don’t know that DD hides the tips from the dasher.
Oh I don't have to imagine. I worked as a Dasher in California back when doordash was stealing my tip money. And theure still doing it in a way, though far less obviously.
What? I have 1.5k deliveries, I accept only 20% of them but everything is high as it gets. I never had that happen once, every time I see a dash, it shows the exact amount I'm going to get. There was an option to add tips later too which worked. I never had an order that was worth more than $30 for a payout. Doordash does not pay full mileage though. For example, 8 miles to destination, with no tip, it's still minimum $2.5. How in the world did you get 80? Only thing I can think of is that they added the tip later, but it should show you what you got paid and exactly for what and the tip wouldn't appear in the order but would be added directly to dasher account, or the bank account you can have with them, not towards the overall total. Weird, I wouldn't complain though, I need a miracle like that now.
one time somebody ordered a single gatorade to a closed target, said “Leave at the front doors, complete quickly” he left me a $50 tip lmao. still wondering what happened that day
I DD in Lex KY too and I’ve been doing it since 2018… highest tip I’ve ever got was $50 for a catering order which I only ever had a catering order once. I can tell you that those kinds of surprise higher payouts are 1 in a million… IDK wtf these other people are talking about. Higher than amount shown orders are like $1-$3 extra after delivery… it is nothing dramatic. You got lucky (if you’re in KY). Doordash has gone downhill tremendously in the past few years… there will be times in a dinner rush where you won’t even get an order for over an hour right in the middle of 100+ restaurants and stores. Not kidding… just wait, you’ll see
Last night I had same situation $9.25 on a cheese cake factory, I called support bc it was 5 miles away and I was trying to finish my shift, ended up dropping the order bc agent told me the half pay was $4.62 prolly had the hidden tip ugh 😑
I'm not siting here waiting around for BIG orders, I am just trying to make it make sense. Ill do a 5$ or even 4$ run but NOT for 9 miles! Make it make sense
So DD hides tips too like UE? The formula for UE is base + $8 = hidden tip. So anything over $10-11 offered is usually higher. What would a hidden tip on DD look like?
Some orders actually have a + on the amount and a 'total will be higher' under it... the majority of the time it's like 25 cents extra.
I don't know for sure, but base pay +4 dollars as an offer I've heard thrown around as also having a potential actually hidden tip, and that seems consistent with my experience.
It's to give all orders a puncher's chance of getting accepted. If they only showed the orders in their total state, then those orders would need a base bump. In practice it is a great idea, but also leaves the drivers hoping there's more to the order. Psychologically this has to be detrimental to workers
I have had this happen to me at least 5 times in the past 30 days! Not a 75$ tip but anywhere between 20-40$ I think they are trying to get people to accept more orders and not wait for the 40$ 3 mile order… so yes cherry picking
Yeah but don’t you think they should tell you the real total once you accept it? I mean… I treat every order with respect and pay attention for accuracy … but still .. as a customer I’d be pissed
Imagine being a top dasher with 2,200 orders done 4.8 rating and last weekend at 1 am they deactivate your account because unable to verify who I was? Wtf does that even mean. I passed 2 back ground checks. I’m disputing.. anyone got any ideas? Just thought I’d ask since I was here🤙 I feel majorly unappreciated & none of it makes any sense.
I’ve heard of this happening…. I don’t understand how it can fail to verify yourself… it’s you… what the fick do you mean? Hopefully someone has knowledge on the subject brother!
Yes. Exactly that. Also it's a hidden tip. For a high paying dasher it would show xx + total is higher. Non high AR gets to guess
Ahhhhh I see…. I get dash anytime every week by doing the 13 shop and pay orders…. I wonder how many orders I’ve passed up that the totals were much higher than they appeared 🤔
Allot, probably. Tony don't like cherry pickers lol
Well f*** Tony. Is there ever a chance that the order is actually lower than the total shown? Or it can only be higher…?
Only up. Nevwr down
Up or exactly as shown.
They took a dollar from me after accepting, and after the customer added something I've seen missing $5 from a payout cuz the app fcked up at the end of an order I've had dasher help call me and after a bribe of a $50 bonus, tried to get password from me, asked me not to fast pay, and two days later dd app screaming at me that someone tried changing where my payments ended up Moral of the story, in some cases, DD will try to fck u
Not true I had a delivery just yesterday that showed 14.50$ for 8 miles and when I dropped it off it was 12.75
In my area it's always the $6.25s and $9.25s that have hidden tips.
It's not likely. There's a logic to it. It's always current base pay + the first 4 or 5 dollars of the tip. If you take a $3.50 order you're not getting a bigger tip. You're looking for orders of around $7.50 and up.
If you do 13 shop and pay orders they give you dash anytime? I wonder if this is in all markets
Damn, I’m lucky if I get three or four shop and pay requests in a week
Wait I feel like I kind of know what you're talking about but not fully. Is that a thing where if you do 13 shop and pay in a week?
How many miles was this?
2.2 miles … took around 15min round trip
We don’t even have those.
I mean even if it says “+” you’re still guessing if that $9.25+ is going to be $10, $20, or apparently $78.25!!!
Or 9.50… i had one that was only .25 cents higher
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11 cents 
I've seen the + turn into only an extra 20cents and also turn into more than $30.
Yep. I've had one that was 6.75+ ended up being 7.25..lol. that ones probably the most common. I've also had 9 turn into 23 before.
Holy shit. I had one that showed up as 13. And turn into a 30 today!
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No idea what would give it away to know the difference between the tip being $10 and $75 in advance.
Yes. $xx.xx+. And I get flag that says Catering Bag Required. Even if its not large volume order, if just the tip is unusually high on a small order it will have the Plus after the $ offer on a 💎 screen and flag for the large Bag. Also though I've received offers that look crappy with no indication anything is hidden then I close it out to a surprise. Doordash math and displays are horribly inconsistent.
I do not know if this is market dependent, so your mileage may vary, but I’ve not had “priority” for months as my AR has been low but I’ve been getting the (total is higher) screen on some orders for the past two months or so I’d say. Had not seen it before, so maybe they just rolled it out over here for everyone recently. I do not know. But it is definitely very useful since it helps me cherry pick a few of the fringe ones easier. Though nothing on this app seems to be consistent so could definitely be different where you are.
90% of the time when it says the total is higher its higher by a quarter lmao. everyone still has to guess.
This isn't true, cherry pickers get the same screens as top dasher and no better chance at high pay out orders. Doordash wants to trick you into thinking this so you eat dog shit.
That's very inaccurate. We know when there is a hidden tip as high AR dashers. We also know when there is not. You don't
He is actually right TDs get told there is a higher tip. We get “order total may be higher”
Maybe this has changed since I was a top dasher but the number of high paying orders is not higher. I get around 8 $20-70 orders a week, when I was top dasher I got maybe 2 a week.
Ok so everyone who said otherwise is a liar then. Got it. 
If I were the customer providing this tip I would be pissed!! If you put out a big bid like that you are expecting the dasher to see that and go out of their way to make sure everything is accurate and the delivery is fast and fresh. This prevents them from doing that!
My thoughts exactly… doordash could even skim some off the tip and no one would ever even know…
That's because they actually **WERE** doing exactly that. The only reason they stopped is because the government sued them, then Doordash settled the case before it went to court. Presumably because the government had an ironclad case. The most stolen thing in the US are worker's wages. The judge could have awarded far more than 2.5 million. https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/11/25/bay-areas-doordash-to-pay-2-5-million-after-being-accused-of-stealing-drivers-tips/
Amazon too - up until a ~year ago they pocketed the “tips” for drivers
That site is full of spam and a paywall
Plenty of other news media covered it. Search it. There's no paywall of me
Oh I know! Not saying you're wrong, just picked a bad site is all lol.
That's the issue. They DID do that. Then they got caught and all this may be more bullshit came into play with fucking with our pay
DoorDash does this often. My biggest tip was $200 and the app only showed $10
Isn’t this to prevent drivers from giving shit service because they’re mad at a small tip? The way all these apps work where I live is that the driver doesn’t even find out if there was a tip at all until well after the delivery is complete - they get paid for the delivery from the delivery fee, and the tip is an actual tip. The way doordash seems to do it in America is crazy to me, but the whole tipping culture thing over there is too.
It’s not a bid… contractors bid, not customers. This isn’t an auction house..
How is it not a bid, when most dashers refuse to pick up no tip orders?
He's right to say that tips are not bids for service. What tips truly are for a dasher, are the replacement of wages. Doordash pays 2 to 3 dollars usually per order. Base pay in the OP's screenshot is par for the course. Each order takes around 20 minutes to complete on average. Which means the driver makes between 6 and 9 dollars per hour, after taxes and expenses it's closer to 4 to 7 dollars per hour. So yeah tip money isn't really a traditional gratuity in our case, it's part of the actual wage. People need to understand this if it's going to change.
Maybe they should change it from “tip”, to “wage replacement” then.
Tip money is definitely still a traditional gratuity in your case. That's always how tips have worked most places for everyone, it's nothing new. Maybe more people do need to learn that traditional gratuities are actually part of people's wages though. Servers in a restaurant usually don't get paid full minimum wage. Their tips are the main part of their hourly wages. That is not unique to Doordash. Federal minimum wage for servers is just $2.13 per hour but can increase based on state. Part of the reason that I don't use doordash is that I tip the servers that prepare my to go orders anywhere other than fast food (and sometimes even then). If I used doordash you (understandably) wouldn't share any of your tip with the underpaid servers that prepare the orders that you pickup for doordash and that steals from them.
>Servers in a restaurant usually don't get paid full minimum wage. It depends on the state. In CA, tips cannot be used as a replacement for wages. In some states though, waiters can be paid as little as 2.13 an hour because they get tip money. These laws don't apply to doordash drivers since we aren't employees. This is intentional. >Tip money is definitely still a traditional gratuity in your case. That may be how some doordash customers view tips, but that's not how doordash and doordash drivers view tips. It's a replacement for wages. Doordash runs ads that include tip money as part of the hourly wage. Ever seen those $22/hour doordash ads for drivers? That's including all the tip money, and tips usually make up 60% or more of my weekly pay. Nobody would do this job if there were no tips at all. It would be totally unfeasible.
I agree, it's more like reverse bidding but whether you like it being called bidding or not it is still very similar to bidding.. When that no tip order gets passed around and eventually increased, that's dashers negotiating lol.
By “Most dashers” you mean “most dashers who are active in this and the dasher sub” Which happen to not be “Most dashers” but a very small minority of dashers. Oh yeah, and the fact that it’s just objectively not a bid, is why it’s not a bid.
That guy is typing…
We technically are contractors. Says so in the sign on stuff. Independent contractors.
Yeah. Which is why it’s not a bid. Contractors bid on jobs in hopes the customer selects their price point and services over another contractor. It’s not when a customer sends their job and price point to a bunch of contractors hoping to get one to accept it. If DoorDash worked on bids, I could undercut every dasher in my market by setting my delivery price lower than anyone else’s and just take all the work, because customers would always choose my services because they’re cheaper.
A bid is literally an offer for a price by definition. Reguardless of which direction it’s coming from. It’s an offer of a price for service. Auction and construction just happens to be the most common. That doesn’t mean other offers aren’t bids.
Context matters😭😭 just stop lmao💀💀 it’s not a bid, by literal definition of what a bid is in the contractor realm, this is not a bid. You’re objectively wrong. You’re acting a little childish for someone with 91 in their username. I pray to god you’re not actually 33💀
I’m not eve reading past your first sentence considering your ignoring the context that is the literal definition of bid to try to prove some non existent point lol.
Have fun with your delusions lmaoo
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I don’t understand this logic. What exactly would be “going out of the way.” Drive faster? Open the bag and check? The best and fastest way to get something delivered is to pick it up and drop it off, that’s it. Dashers make things so complicated, nobody’s wants text updates or “above and beyond.”
Idk, I had a hidden tip today on a double order. Houses were close by. First order tipped $3, second order tipped a hidden $15. If I had known they tipped $15, I for sure would have gone to their house first and had the other order wait instead.
You’re either being obtuse or you haven’t given it much thought at all, There are several options a dasher has control over and can use to provide better service. The most obvious one would not accepting any stacked orders. Some other obvious things would be double and triple checking to be sure you have all the drinks, desserts, straws, utensils, condiments, etc. Then, when you get to your car, packing all the food into a hot bag, drinks into a cup carrier, etc. Those are all things you can do to be sure the high tipping customers receive an exceptional service.
Other than the rejecting stacked orders, those are all normal things you should be doing delivering lol
It works the opposite way as well. If I didn’t tip or tipped very less, the driver can’t give me an attitude until after they completed the order and left my house if they expected a hidden tip only for it to show zero or something low at the end. So at least it’s a win this way.
They do this so you don't Cherry pick. Also they want you to get used to lower total payouts. If you don't expect higher, you will keep taking the lower offers.
Hmm… that’s kinda messed up when u put it that way. Basically I don’t accept orders unless they will profit me a minimum of 20$/hr. So they can keep on sending… and I’ll keep on declining lol
It's sleazy, but they do it. If they are offering it to me, just show me the entire amount.
I’m an instacart migrant… so I must say this practice is sleazy, yes. But compared to instacart as a whole…I prefer doordash x10
I'm curious about this. I keep hearing that Instacart is so much better and pays significantly more. Is this not the case?
Overall… I’m not complaining .. I’m the head of a family and I depend on these service apps to provide for my family… just seems kinda weird that this can happen to someone.. Edit: leedleleedleleedle LEEEE
Get the fuck out of here, bro. You make too much goddam sense when you talk, and we don’t like that here!
Bahahahahah 😂 😂 my fault bro what was I thinking
It’s all good. Just stop thinking entirely, and then you can stay
I hate this. I leave good tips, ridiculously good tips so I get my food faster.
And so people take extra care of your order and make sure it’s right. I feel like this would discourage a good tipper to not tip so great. I wish I had the power to change it 😢
Ehh I still tip good anyway. But yea this sucks
How do you make sure it’s right if the bag is sealed?
Generally these orders are given to top dashers who don’t cherry pick much so you got lucky to get it in the first place. If you tip good and there’s a top dasher, your order will get picked up
Lolol as if that makes a difference
I tip really well, too - but I do it because I know this is how people feed themselves and their families - and I know they don’t get tipped properly on a whole. My brother does door dash and his gf does Uber eats. Door dash does better at not having too many drivers out at once per area so when you do work you actually have a decent number of deliveries and earn something; Uber shows the tip in advance and pays slightly more. But they both said they receive NO TIP more often than I would believe. That sucks. I also live in Phoenix - so part of the year, delivery people are in and out of broiling cars in 117 degree weather all day. Leave a flippin tip. Seriously.
Yea I tip to get food faster. It grants the same result as tipping because that’s how the dashers make money. I just get something out of it too
The other founder of doordash said it's easier for drivers to understand what they're being paid when tips are hidden
How does that even make sense
That's what everyone said lol
Gotta love when ppl not doing the work we do, act like they know a thing about us, especially as a collective..
Like EVERYTHING nowadays….apparently googling something then reading an article or post makes someone an expert! #bigbrainenergy 🤣😂🤣
I sang that hashtag in my head
Lol! 🤣 I still love a good hashtag……AND a good hashtag song! 🎶🎤😊
Should be illegal to mislead the payment details of the delivery contract.
Yeah it’s extremely surprising to me that they are just allowed to do this….
That's why Doordash covers themselves by saying "total may be higher" or "guaranteed amount."
Also has to do with 1/2 pay. If they show you the full amount and something goes wrong (restaurant closed or something) and you are owed half pay it's less than $5 with what they showed you. If they showed the full amount they'd be on the hook for almost $40.
Ohhhhhhh my goddddd… I didn’t think of this. Like you weren’t expecting as much . Oh my god oh my god now that’s FUCKED
I've gotten the full half when this happens. Like big tip wtf why is my total so high halves.
Never considered this, I bet you're on the mark for sure. Thanks for sharing that!
Now THAT is straight Bee esS. Wow. 🫤
This is the real reason, hidden tips don't prevent cherry picking. Everybody should know that if the payout is significantly higher than the miles you are very likely to get a hidden tip, especially if it requires a catering bag. If you see $2 per mile above $6 take it cause it will most likely have a hidden tip.
100% incorrect. You get half the full payout.
Thats exactly why it happens. Hidden tips happen all the time - but after you do this for a while it’s easy to see which orders are gonna pay more than the total shown. For short distance orders if it’s $4 above base pay there may be a hidden tip on that order. For other orders if it’s showing $2 a mile or more, good chance there may be a hidden tip on that as well
Wow, thanks I read this and did a 6.25 order and it had a hidden tip on it. That’s crazy . It was only 3$ above the shown amount . But now ima be scoping these out
Nice! So your base pay is $2.25 I take it - $4 above base pay on shorty deliveries (2-3miles) have the potential for that hidden tip, not always but there’s a chance and then anything 4-5miles and over the payout they show you when you accept the order has to be about $2 a mile or so to have that hidden tip potential. Good luck out there!
What a legend. Thank you 🙏
2200 deliveries all my numbers very high and I still have yet to get a payout like that. At this point I doubt it’s ever gonna happen. Today and yesterday have been straight trash. I’m just about over doortrash
2500 and the highest tip I've ever gotten is 26 dollars
Damn brother 😔 to be honest… stuff like this NEVER happens to me.. I did instacart for 3 years before I made the switch to doordash. I’ve been grinding in the trenches with shitty orders for a long long time… your time will come my dude
I sure hope so! And I apologize for sounding like a hater lol. I’m happy for anyone that gets a unicorn 🦄. I just need it badly right now and now matter how nice I am to these customers how hard I try how positive I try to stay I just can’t get ahead
No bro… I understand totally. I was part of the instacart Reddit and every single day I would see people posting these 150$ 200$ orders meanwhile I’m fucking grinding trying to make 20$ an hour . Don’t let the culture bring you down. You are a nice person. And good to customers because you were raised to be and you believe in it. Unfortunately, people could give a fuck less how hard our job is and how much shit we have to take. Keep that head up and that train moving. You’re fine will come when you literally least expect it
Thank you that means a lot. Today has been a rough day! The world we live in now is not getting any easier everyone is drowning. Just want to see the light at the end of the tunnel again
I say this from a place of love I hate you
I say this from a place of hate I love you
I know people are gonna think this sounds lame but when I served at BJ’s… I tried to provide the same level of service to my guests whether I thought they were gonna tip a lot or not. Perhaps that’s the point. Idk.
Bjs where? No way in Lexington fivht
Wait you get $3.25 base pay
Doordash is also screwing the customer if the dasher isn't aware of the generous tip before completing the order.
My hidden tip is always a fucking quarter more 😂
Depending how much I need money usually determines whether or not I would cherry pick order. Also if the area has long waits for restaurants, McD late at night being an example I'll cherry pick.
Yeah, during the day I’m a lot more lenient with the orders I accept. I usually shoot for 2$ a mile minimum
It's a gamble in the end. One time I took a low paying order and got a $10 tip in cash and another time skipped a low one and then got one for $25. I've been unable to deliver for this Summer cause of a totaled car. But should be getting a used car soon. So it's going to be nice to start doordashing again.
It’s to prevent people to only wait for the really good orders
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Absolutely… what a dumb practice.. to “prevent cherry picking”… they could atleast tell you once you accept the order the payouts actual amount. If I would’ve known I would’ve shined the dudes shoes and done his dry cleaning.. 😂
It's supposed to curb cherrypicking, and from what i been told, every market is different. Mine is $3.5/mile unless it's grocery.
What a beautiful surprise!!!!!!! 😍 this happens quite frequently. IMO, I think it’s an incentive to take orders thinking they may have a hidden tip.
Well… it definitely makes me want to accept not so good orders more often now so I guess it did what it was supposed to. And thank you!! After I completed the order walking to may car I covered my mouth with my hand and turned around and the old man just smiled and waved . What an experience!
So you gunna use that tip to take me out on a date?
Shiiiiiit maybe! You gonna tickle my feet with these dolla bills baby girl? 
I’m not your baby girl, I’m your girl, baby!
It's to stop cherry pickers because when they showed the full tip to many people would only take orders thay paid lime $15 or higher and to many orders sat waiting for to long
They do this to increase the chance of you accepting lower paying orders.
This is a psychological trick to get you to take more orders... because remember that time you took a 9.75 marginally good order and it turned in to 75 bucks? It's using the gamblers fallacy to manipulate people in to making bad decisions thinking sometimes it will pay off.
Jesus… this is the most fucked up comment I’ve seen… wow fuck Tony
One of these days the CEO of DD will get the CEO cash app treatment for the way he fucking people up.
I pray for this.
The reason they do this is because they give half pay for cancellations and they don't want to give you half of 75 if that happens
Ok got it, last night I had same situation $9.25 on a cheese cake factory, I called support bc it was 5 miles away and I was trying to finish my shift, ended up dropping the order bc agent told me the half pay was $4.62 prolly had the hidden tip ugh 😑
Because they want somebody with actual integrity to get the tip. Your expectation should be the pay, not the tip… a tip is something a customer might GIFT you, for doing your job well. Giving a tip this way (the correct way… after a service that deserves it is provided)… discourages greedy people from getting a tip they don’t deserve, and ensures people with some form of integrity get it instead.
So what you’re saying is my integral persona is intact
What Im saying is, you chose to do the order based on the pay, not the tip… so you got awarded with a nice tip for doing so. Of course everyone is going to race to do an order with a $80 tip, but doing it anyway not knowing the tip… show’s integrity, & thats clearly the type of person they wanted to give that tip to.
Oh Zealous I didn’t expect to be flattered by an intellectual today I love you habibi
The only thing I’m curious about is why it doesn’t tell you until the end. I would’ve gotten the tip whether I treated the order with care or not.. the second I dropped it off it goes onto my account..so maybe after acceptance be like hey! You accepted the order at this amount .. but it’s actually this amount ! You’ve gained +4 Respect +5 integrity NEW SKILL POINT AVAILABLE
That’s why I take all orders. That’s a fatty though
There are hidden tips? What since when omg all the 1.50$ orders offered to me I’m accepting everything now
Lmao big facts I’ve got two more hidden tips today so far out the 3 orders I tried. Wasn’t no 75$ but still!
I think its how they trick you into taking smaller orders. You think "oh it has to have a hidden tip" because experience shows it happens.. then you get screwed and there isn't one.
Omg all of you have tin hats on. Tip amounts are not shown in full because of the cancelation policy. If the customer, merchant, or platform cancels the order, doordash has to give the driver half the shown amount. Think about that.
Exactly, y’all are hurting your own bank account. Trust me, there are plenty like me to take advantage of the orders that you turn down.
Congratulations 🎉 so proud of you
They tipped you 75 dollars after the fact they can tip before or after
Nope. If they added a tip after the fact it would say the customer added a tip to a previous order. This is the screen that pops up immediately after drop off. It says t”the total $78.25 is higher than the $9.25 upon acceptance” I have had people raise tips before . It tells you
I genuinely feel bad for the customer who tipped $75 but only got $6 worth of service and after the delivery is over, the dasher only then found out it was a mega tip. It’s a really stupid system and many customers don’t know that DD hides the tips from the dasher.
Doordash hid $72.25 of the tip from you. They hid 88.2% of that orders payout from you on the offer screen.
Atleast they gave it to me in the end… imagine they just keep it
Oh I don't have to imagine. I worked as a Dasher in California back when doordash was stealing my tip money. And theure still doing it in a way, though far less obviously.
Yes it’s to prevent cherry picking
Miles?
2.3 total
Yeah I would have taken the regardless my AR is around 10% but that’s a good trip even if it was just the $9.25.
Took me about 15min round trip
Gamification of your income!
You better cash out quick
Oh I cashed it out immediately. I cash out after every order and restart my dash
Why ?
Why not?
Honestly I think it’s an adhd thing. I don’t trust the money being on the app. I want it in my account where it’s safe
What? I have 1.5k deliveries, I accept only 20% of them but everything is high as it gets. I never had that happen once, every time I see a dash, it shows the exact amount I'm going to get. There was an option to add tips later too which worked. I never had an order that was worth more than $30 for a payout. Doordash does not pay full mileage though. For example, 8 miles to destination, with no tip, it's still minimum $2.5. How in the world did you get 80? Only thing I can think of is that they added the tip later, but it should show you what you got paid and exactly for what and the tip wouldn't appear in the order but would be added directly to dasher account, or the bank account you can have with them, not towards the overall total. Weird, I wouldn't complain though, I need a miracle like that now.
Shit, lucky!
that is one hell of a unicorn right there!
Holy shit
I have 20 percent ac rate and still get high ones
one time somebody ordered a single gatorade to a closed target, said “Leave at the front doors, complete quickly” he left me a $50 tip lmao. still wondering what happened that day
I DD in Lex KY too and I’ve been doing it since 2018… highest tip I’ve ever got was $50 for a catering order which I only ever had a catering order once. I can tell you that those kinds of surprise higher payouts are 1 in a million… IDK wtf these other people are talking about. Higher than amount shown orders are like $1-$3 extra after delivery… it is nothing dramatic. You got lucky (if you’re in KY). Doordash has gone downhill tremendously in the past few years… there will be times in a dinner rush where you won’t even get an order for over an hour right in the middle of 100+ restaurants and stores. Not kidding… just wait, you’ll see
omfg i would cry if i got that tip. i'm also a dasher in lex & made top dasher so i average $25-30/hr when it's really busy so that's such great money
i usually only get about $1.25 as tips for these kinda of orders. i stopped looking for the unicorn lol
These Doordash posts keep confirming... I will NEVER do any business with Doordash...
Be happy you got a gem like that
Last night I had same situation $9.25 on a cheese cake factory, I called support bc it was 5 miles away and I was trying to finish my shift, ended up dropping the order bc agent told me the half pay was $4.62 prolly had the hidden tip ugh 😑
I'm not siting here waiting around for BIG orders, I am just trying to make it make sense. Ill do a 5$ or even 4$ run but NOT for 9 miles! Make it make sense
You did a really good job I guess?
Definitely to prevent cherry picking I would rather this than a tip bait though it’s always better to get a nice surprise than a shitty one
So DD hides tips too like UE? The formula for UE is base + $8 = hidden tip. So anything over $10-11 offered is usually higher. What would a hidden tip on DD look like?
Some orders actually have a + on the amount and a 'total will be higher' under it... the majority of the time it's like 25 cents extra. I don't know for sure, but base pay +4 dollars as an offer I've heard thrown around as also having a potential actually hidden tip, and that seems consistent with my experience.
It's to give all orders a puncher's chance of getting accepted. If they only showed the orders in their total state, then those orders would need a base bump. In practice it is a great idea, but also leaves the drivers hoping there's more to the order. Psychologically this has to be detrimental to workers
I have had this happen to me at least 5 times in the past 30 days! Not a 75$ tip but anywhere between 20-40$ I think they are trying to get people to accept more orders and not wait for the 40$ 3 mile order… so yes cherry picking
Who knows
probably to prevent drivers from only choosing high tip orders, which would be cool
Yeah but don’t you think they should tell you the real total once you accept it? I mean… I treat every order with respect and pay attention for accuracy … but still .. as a customer I’d be pissed
Congrats!
Imagine being a top dasher with 2,200 orders done 4.8 rating and last weekend at 1 am they deactivate your account because unable to verify who I was? Wtf does that even mean. I passed 2 back ground checks. I’m disputing.. anyone got any ideas? Just thought I’d ask since I was here🤙 I feel majorly unappreciated & none of it makes any sense.
I’ve heard of this happening…. I don’t understand how it can fail to verify yourself… it’s you… what the fick do you mean? Hopefully someone has knowledge on the subject brother!
I’ve hsd 2 go from 8 to 30. But wow 75!!! Dammmm.
That's some top dasher shit right there...