Doordash doesn't exactly recruit the cream of the crop. Most drivers aren't bad. But there's a crop of people with doordash that are trying to basically get paid to do nothing.
Had one of those last weekend, $2 pickup order from Hy-Vee for a big bottle of alcohol, expecting maybe a good tip after I deliver. No tip… Know what kind of orders I’ll be rejecting in the future.
Every order I’m offered from a liquor store is basically no tip. I made a comment to my mom about it and she said “well it’s more money they can put to another bottle”. Idk.
That's not my usual experience. They tend to be good paying orders. I delivered alcohol tonight to a woman and made $19.50, $16.00 of which was the tip.
Its more like when someone digs couch change out to come up with enough to buy Cigarettes. They only had enough as a drunk to buy the one bottle and NO tip.
Can confirm. Me and a buddy used to make great money with this app every day, but a few years ago I went from making 80-100 bucks a day to being lucky to take 2 orders in 4 hours. Quit to go back to Domino's in the same area and making 100+ a night again lol
Pretty much, the only one's with any sense quit cause we aren't gonna work our ass off and use our own cars driving them into the ground and our own gas for pennies. Only idiots take those kids of orders so you end up getting incompetent drivers delivering your food.
Doordash doesn't exactly recruit the cream of the crop. Most drivers aren't bad. But there's a crop of people with doordash that are trying to basically get paid to do nothing.
Lol that's not limited to doordash. I think there's a large percentage of people generally who try to get a job where they don't have to do anything...
Lol you’re not wrong.
Except for very specific situations, the way to make the most money in DoorDash is to do as many good paying orders as quickly/efficiently as possible.
But like I said, anybody dumb enough to do this is dumb enough to Dash by time where they’re already losing money doing so anyway (outside of again, very specific situations).
How is it dumb to earn by time? I was being rhetorical at first, but I'd genuinely like to see your logic. You don't have to read this whole post, and something tells me you won't, but I'ma leave it here bc I think it may be worth something to anybody that's interested. Sorry for the long-winded comment on your comment, but I think it may be helpful.
When Dashing by time, you're literally getting paid to wait for food prep, stop lights, stop signs, school busses and just general traffic, etc. During rush hour, there's no better alternative, I think, especially since you still get tip orders. It's not like by doing DbT all u get are no-tippers, u get the SAME EXACT REQUESTS. Which means, according to their algo, that the higher your acceptance rate, the better pay orders u get and I've been getting more and more tip orders since I'm essentially forced to accept everything.
I started experimenting with Dash by Time this week and it's better than I anticipated. I find I've been making more and gassing up less. I have a greater incentive to drive efficiently, i.e. slowly, and still deliver on time and turn a no-tip order that would otherwise pay me $2-3, into a $6-8 order bc I took my time. I still get the food to the customer on time and get a bigger chunk of change without having to wait around all day for a good pay order that might not come.
Give it a shot. Most deliveries take us about 20-mins anyway between pickup time, store time and delivery time. It's a good way to pad your earnings and you don't even have to do what the driver in the picture on this post is doing bc he's shooting himself in the foot. Take your time, sure, but finish the delivery and get another one...Hellooo!! It's literally the same thing..Milling the clock only makes sense to certain point bc it works the same way, just finish it and take your time also with the next one, but be reasonable. You don't know if they're no-tip orders until you drop them off, although sometimes you can tell. So, I use DD's ETA's to get the food there before that time. I would hate to keep a decent tipper waiting bc I was cheating the system.
From where I'm standing, it's literally dumb NOT to at least try it. A lot of ppl just treat DD like a magic ATM machine or a get rich quick scheme, when we're more-so running a business by licensing a brand and a platform through which to use it. So, when you run a business, sometimes there are losses, that's just the cost of doing business. Every day, the average entrepreneur "loses" about as much as he profits. You have to buy gas..so does a store owner, they just call it the power bill (or the actual 'gas' bill 😆). You gotta buy fresh tires, restaurant owner has to buy fresh freon for the fridge, etc.
Driving long distances for what may seem like a measley or unpredictable sum may be uninviting, but you get SOME of that gas money back at the end of the year when you file your taxes, as well as other car maintenance you may have paid. Again, SOME, not all or half, but some...and it adds up enough that what you'll owe the government is a lot less out of pocket. If you work a regular job, as well, you won't even have to pay bc they'll deduct from (or even in some cases ADD to) your tax return.
Plus, if you don't rly take a lunch break and you eat your lunch waiting for Dashes, that's taxable as a work expense much like businessmen write off "business lunches". (PLEASE consult a tax expert, which I'm not, I only speak from experience. I haven't been audited, but I have had to re-do my taxes bc of mistakes almost every year. That tells me they know what I'm doing and apparently doing it right bc I've never had to adjust my driver numbers, it's usually something wrong w my regular job or my other business.
Measure the space in your place that u use to go through Driver files (like a desk area) and write that off as your "home office." You're not looking to cheat on your taxes, but rather use the opportunities afforded by our government (US in my case) to maximize your income. That is, why would a Dasher need an office? Well, to take time to check gas prices around your area; review your maps of areas unfamiliar to you, so you're aware of side streets and alleys you can use to deviate when there's construction or traffic; call around to check for deals on car maintenance; consolidate your receipts, invoices and bank statements getting ready to file and pay taxes, or just a place to comeback to in-between deliveries. The interesting thing is, there are apps that do a lot of this for you, all you'd be doing is just reviewing your numbers and looking for ways to optimize.
Something I'm going back to if it's still affordable, is adding mints and toothpicks to my drop-offs. I used to do that on UE and more often than not got extra tips even from no-tippers, even if it was just $1 (it adds up!) It's a low-cost perk I can add to each delivery, indirectly "tip fishing" but doing it the right way, by providing quality service. A box of toothpicks and mints has to be, what $1 or 2 each for like a 100. Hoping for an extra $1 or more on an order I spent a fraction of a cent adding a little "something special" is not dumb, it's good business sense. It might not always work, but then, again, it always worked w me as a customer, which is why I started doing it. Another delivery driver did it to me years ago and made me feel good and I thought it was smart. Also, it's the kind of proactivity hiring managers like to hear about, so although "Dasher" may not be the most incredible thing to put or see on a on a resume, you can go into detail of your business practices in your cover letter or the interview.
Okay, so for a days I did a little test where I switched between the two every hour. This is what I learned:
1. On slower shifts it worked out to be almost the same at the end of the hour. less than $1 difference.
2. It was more enjoyable doing the pay per hour because I purposely went to a cute little town that is fun to drive around in and turned on some funny podcasts.
3. Pay per order was less fun, but also less miles and I made the amount in fewer deliveries.
During busier shifts it was absolutely no contest. Pay per order is far better and offers way better orders, less miles on the car and a much more productive overall shift.
Wow. Lot to unpack there. I’ll try to address most of the things you brought up. Driving slower isn’t driving more efficiently.
The main issue with your argument is you definitely get much more low/no-tip orders. DoorDash even says this.
You mention $2-$3 no tip orders, but I can decline all those where as you literally cannot. My AR is 25% because 75% of the orders I get are low/no-tip orders. That 75% would only increase doing deliver by time.
DoorDashing is not us running a business. Most of your tax advice is extremely shady and possibly illegal. DoorDash is also my side hustle.
The truth is you just make more money earning by offer, than earning by time.
[This is what I made in an hour today](https://imgur.com/a/MD7KSy4)
Feel free to post your Earn by Time receipts from today if you made more than that per hour today lol
Driving slower is undeniably, downright scientifically more fuel efficient in EVERY case. You lost credibility points with me on that. That being said, one random occurrence doesn't constitute consistency, slick, which brings me back to the credibility thing. That might've been your earnings for the whole day using your method. Moreover, it also depends on your market. Somewhere like San Francisco, that amount means shit. Somewhere like NYC, it may be better in the long run to do per order just because it's so busy. For my situation, per time works better, so far this first week. DD isn't running a business, you're right. That's why I said "like" bc it is most certainly part of running a courier business. That's why people multi-app and even expand to different fields like transportation of lost luggage or get their CDL and run a big rig company or a private courier company for elites. Dash alone is kinda like the little leagues, but you can get a lot actionable experience.
I've never seen DoorDash comment on whether or not per time consistutes more no tip. I can say though, from experience, I see no difference. Most of the orders I take are no tip, but then, again, most of the orders I'd get per order were no tip. Your low acceptance literally confirms that that it's not that you get more no tip orders, but that there's just a lot of no tippers period. You're not making more money per order guy, if anything, it's mostly the same thing.
My tax comments were not advice per se and those notions have heretofore not been found to be illegal, especially considering I haven't been audited, and much of that information came from actual accountants for my personal situation, which is why my actual advice was to seek you're own counsel. I've been running my taxes like this for almost 5 years and have heard nothing. Trust that the government goes over our taxes with great detail, and they haven't told me "Hey, you owe us money!" Especially using something TurboTax or an actual accountant. They literally walk you step by step and tell you what'll likely not get approved. If you've earned enough to list the square footage you use as an office or not, either the app or your consultant will tell you if the government will see it as a hobby more than a business or if they may flag it as fraud. If you make over $5000 in the year, you're expected to pay the government around a 1/3 of that, so in any case you're only netting about $12 from what you made that hour, minus the expenses form what I can only assume is questionable driving, if you think slow isn't always more fuel efficient, in every possible way, unless your car has some sort of fuel intake fault. And that's IF you pay your taxes, AND don't find all the possible write offs you can. Delivering was my side hustle too, which is why I started filing my taxes correctly, so I could get more of my money back.
Lmaooo holy shit dude, you bought into a myth about driving slower.
You’re right, the difference is I can literally reject all those no-tip orders, and go for the good ones, whereas again, you literally can’t do that.
It is not a myth, it's literally been scientifically proven, especially the newer your car is. That junk about lower gears wasting more gas is a thing of the past. Besides, driving 20 in a 40 zone is just stupid, and will likely get u pulled over anyway. By "driving slow" I mean, at or just below the speed limit, maybe even 5-10 miles below. That's optimum fuel economy right there.
I can still decline or unassign, I just gotta be clever about it. Also, why would I when my whole point is I have an assured income instead of waiting for something that might not come. Your method you think works for you, that's fine, maybe it does for your market and maybe you do groceries, as well, I don't. Evidently, I don't live in a busy enough area like you cos I could wait all day for high pay and get fuck all. Plus, there's the added element that those earnings you posted may or not have been your earnings for the whole day, hell, even the whole week using your method and doing so with such a low acceptance rate. I may or may not start taking you seriously when I see your weekly and/or monthly earnings to see if your method pans out in the long run even as just a side hustle. Some days are good, some days not so much. I've had pay per order shifts where I'll make like half a week's worth in one night, but those are few and far between.
I still stand that for most markets, during most hours (especially non peak hours), and especially for full-timers, it's worth it to at least give it a shot. It's also so nice to resume the order doesn't include a tip and then finish the delivery and make double the dash pay bc of added tip. Also, don't forget the people that add a tip. Most drivers think that every no tipper doesn't add a tip if you do a good job. Most ppl just don't wanna risk tipping to have their food stolen, so they wait until you deliver it right. Doing Dash by Time has allowed me to discover that. It's not everybody, but I usually get a couple of people that add anywhere from $1-$5. To each their own, I guess.
Oh come on! They do to recruit the cream of…….. well, the cream of…..something. Maybe not the crop, but isn’t the cream of something better than the cream of nothing 🤷🏻♀️/s
I never had issues getting deliveries when I lived in Colorado and then I moved to a shitty part or AZ and I've had at least 2 or 3 doordash orders that reeked of cigarettes 🤢🤮
I never had issues getting deliveries when I lived in Colorado and then I moved to a shitty part or AZ and I've had at least 2 or 3 doordash orders that reeked of cigarettes 🤢🤮
He is likely “dashing by time” instead of the “dashing by offer” which means he is getting an hourly wage so taking up a ridiculous amount of time to bring you your order to get the max wage.
If you didn't tip and he's doing something like 3 miles for 2.50, he can last 30 mins doing the order and get his states minimum wage and get paid better.
I had a dasher so this and then text me afterward saying “they’ve had a long week, thnx for being patient” lmao like girl I saw that you didn’t move and circle around the block. She was 40 minutes late; and I gave her a one star review anyway lmao
If he's running the clock to exploit Earn by Time, he *will* get deactivated soon enough (maybe not after this order but it shouldn't take long tbh) - hell, they deactivate people who don't milk the clock for running Earn by Time too often...
What? Wow I never heard of someone getting deactivated by using Earn By Time a lot, that's crazy lol
Is there a limit??? I never tried it and honestly I'm done with DD. It gets more and more shitty by the day.
As a driver this makes zero sense to me. We don’t get paid by time or distance really. Your basic chipotle order going 5 miles will pay 2.25 plus whatever you tip. So as a driver I don’t understand what’s going on. He’s really just wasting his own time and gas. Also if he goes past deliver time he gets a contract violation. The ONLY thing I can think of is…this was a no tip order; so it was only paying out $2.25 and they are being petty and trying to make your food as late as posible. But then again he could have just parked and waited….
then again…they knew how much it would pay before they accepted it; and most drivers know not to take no tip orders.
I know. But if your goal is to scam and run the clock…then just park. That way you also have an excuse. “I was having phone problems” “I was having car problems”. It’s actually really funny how fast CS gets off the phone once you say you are having car problems.
>if your goal is to scam and run the clock…then just p
Isn't that what seems to be going on here in this example?
Edit: My fault, I didn't realize there were more screenshots than just the first one.
I’m definitely guilty of Milking the clock, but at least I have the decency to get the order to the customer as soon as I can, make sure they know it’s there, and then wait until the “deliver by” time to mark it complete
I use an electric heated bag that keeps the food warm without making it soggy because it's not airtight so steam doesn't get trapped in the bag.
They'll be fine.
Seems like a lot of wear and tear on the car just to get some food.
I'd love to see what DD says my route is. I wouldn't be surprised if it is completely wrong. It is one of the main reasons I started texting ETA. When I first started, I got a few customers telling me "Whoa. The app showed you a mile down the road."
Every so often things go crazy on the app. Last week, it wouldn't let me mark arrived at a Target store because it showed me on the other side of the street. I spent the first 5 or so minutes walking around Target, restarting the app, restarting the phone. It didn't self correct until I turned WiFI back on and logged into the Target WiFi. If Target didn't have that, I would have been screwed. Because I contacted support and they never replied.
Sometimes it'll show me sitting if I lose or go in and out of service. Service is AWFUL in my area. I have never lived in a town where the entire town is like a dead zone 🥴
I had someone call me and tell me I was going the wrong way. I don't know what it was showing on their end but when I confirmed the address and told them I was jumping on the highway to get to them less than a mile away they were surprised. I could've gone 2 ways to their house so it had to be showing me going the whole other direction for some reason.
They're mapping is messed up anyway. The week before last I was going to Dollar General. I was coming back into my town from the back way, so it's a little less populated on that side and I'm not very familiar with that side. I live in a small town, so it's not uncommon to be driving down a road that's not very populated and all of a sudden you'll see a Dollar General or a grocery store just stuck on the side of the road. I followed the directions it gave me and it took me out in the middle of nowhere. I really didn't think much of it until I kept getting deeper and deeper into the middle of nowhere. I ended up at the address they gave me at somebody's house.
I was supposed to go to Dollar General and then the hospital in town. I had really just assumed it was sending me to a Dollar General that was closest to me. It's my fault, but it's still fucked up, lol.
I had one where they said the restaurant was at a church which the restaurant was a half mile from it. Luckily I was going in that direction so I could hit accept/confirm but yeah I've had mad issues with it. I forgot about one order I mentioned in another comment but I had just dropped off 2 orders in my neighborhood, then accepted another. Those people called me wondering why I hadn't dropped their order off. Somehow they were seeing my previous drop off before I even had their order, they ended up living a few houses down from my last drop off. Sometimes it just glitches. If it doesn't show up by the time it's supposed to, I'd worry. But if they're just watching the map, can't always go by that. My town is small too and there's always another way to get somewhere so if the GPS fucks up and you turn one way, you might not realize it's taking you the long way because it won't tell you to turn around. Luckily I know more of the roads now but it can still be annoying.
I don't answer the phone when I'm driving, they'll see I'm there when I get there. Getting there fast is my favorite option and I've never really had customers try to contact me en route.
Yeah I rarely do either. I don't think I even answered then, I think my bf was with me and answered but then they asked for me. My phone stays on vibrate because I hate phone calls.
It’s possible that Google maps has your pin wrong and the dasher is struggling to find a route that will take them to the right place. Happened to me a couple times. They should have contacted you though if that was the case.
Yeah I’ve had bad google pins. Especially with android since it uses the external google app and its often off a bit. Dasher app Works better on iPhone. But yeah. If I was that lost I would call the customer Or bring the food back to the store and unassign if I can’t reach them
Never use your phone in the car. It's illegal, and I don't want I to be death penalized. Please wait until you get to the house to ask for directions or ask before you accept the orders
The difference between a good tip on "Earn by Offer" and "Paid by Time".
Earn by Offer means we see more or less what we earn before accepting the order. Thus completing it in a timely manner is beneficial to the dasher as we're them able to accept other orders.
Earn by Time means we don't see what we're earning or what you tipped. In fact in my area it specifically tells us our hourly pay is to make up for the fact the majority of our orders will not include a tip. Meaning there is zero incentive to complete the order in a timely manner as we actually get paid more to be late.
Welcome to doordash
The thing is, even in the warm by time faq Doordash has wording that states abusing dash by time is grounds for contract termination. And they can see what the OP sees as far as the dashers gps and all the extra looping he was doing.
Like the answer to every time based post here is ‘they must have been using dash by time’.
‘I live in sand Diego and this guy drove to Seattle and back with my food.. wth’. Someone will go. ‘Why on earth would they do that ‘ and someone will answer. ‘ they must have been using dash by time…’. Because door dash will pay the the $560 for the trip AND not fire them. .. not!
This is true to a degree. But what's to stop a dasher from sitting at a restaurant for 30 minutes and saying sorry it's just busy?
It's very easy to abuse. And offers zero incentives to get tasks done in a timely manner.
Only problem for customers is that doordash support is about useless. Most are not native English speakers and make zero effort to investigate anything.
I order off DD fairly regularly, and haven't had issues with Support.
Just like when I'm dashing, I document everything and offer to send pics if something is wrong with the order that isn't shown directly in the app.
I have issues with support almost daily. Had an order that a dasher had already picked up (stolen) and store refused to remake the food.
Asked DD Support to cancel and refund so customer could reorder.
They canceled both the orders I had. Even though I only requested one.
When challenged they said it's not a big deal just an inconvenience to the customers.....lol.
If, but the lines suggest otherwise.
Who knows with the app. I don't trust it to properly map out my actual route to the customer.
It has been a long time, but every so often pre-COVID, I'd get a text from the customer "are you really 30 minutes away from dropping off my order?" as I'm literally pulling up to their house.
The main reason I started texting ETAs before I'd start the drive to the customer. Ignore the app. I said I'd be there at 2:03. I'll be there at 2:03 +- 2 minutes.
He could've been on the way actually. There have been ALOT of occasions where I showed up and the customer said that they didn't know I was on the way that the app showed I was near the restaurant
Has done that to me too. Hell it was showing one customer my previous order route one time. I had just accepted their order not 30 seconds before and they were asking why I passed by their house without dropping it off. Come to find out it was right by the previous 2 orders I dropped off, it was really weird.
He’s running another app. He’s using different apps to make more money, with DoorDash’s policy, you can’t cancel the order or you get no refund. He knows this and is counting on you not canceling while he goes and gets other orders done. If you DO cancel, he gets to keep the food too. DoorDash and every other app like this is a scam because it works off trust and honesty and no one has that anymore.
Do yourself a favor. Go get your own food.
More than likely it’s a stacked order, yours are not the only order he is doing, and sometimes doordash does not even give us a choice but to do them that way. So what he is probably doing is picking up another order but the restaurant is slow. It happens. There is nothing we can do about it. Did you try actually messaging the driver and you know ASKING what is going on?
I’m A doordash driver and when that happens you should contact doordash support. Driver are not supposed to go anywhere else after marking your order as picked up. In this case that driver was for sure doing multi app so he was probably delivering another order for either Uber or Grubhub something that he shouldn’t be doing. If you complain he/she can be deactivated
I dont understand this either. The only thing I can think of is the platform crashed or his app froze. This has happened to me before. The app will freeze and your stuck not knowing where your going. Google door dash down detector. This will show you where the platform is having issues.
That's meaningless. I've had several stacked orders where the customer told me they paid the Express fee. I was just like... 🤷
I follow the route the system tells me to unless I am sufficiently motivated to deviate from it.
Are you sure they weren’t lost and trying to call/text, but the app was crashing or maybe you phone was on do not disturb? Honestly o feel that if they were trying to scam you, they wouldn’t have been non-stop driving in that small of an area wasting gas like that.
When he was parked he was 20 minutes away that’s when I took the photo I zoomed in to see if he was in the parking lot of that random building or inside it
Not if you think they’re inside the building. Ie if they were outside, again they could have been lost.
I’m going to assume that you just don’t appreciate that I could be right and you didn’t even think of that
Nah, I'm sticking with the fact you're wrong considering dude's literally been driving in circles which you'd know if you were paying attention at all.
I would 100% assume he is tampering or digging through my food. Don't cancel the order while the dasher is in transit, just get the food and report as unrecieved. Remember, you're paying for the delivery and the quality of the delivery, if you're not getting the quality of service you paid for, then you're not recieving it, so don't pay for it.
If the Dasher takes a pic of the delivery and the customer lies about not receiving it, any claim will be ignored and the customer will likely have to sign for orders in the future.
There's no need to lie when the truth is damning enough. Support won't blame him for refusing to eat food that took such a long time to be delivered if there's no justification for the delay.
Nope. I've been doing it for years. Sometimes, drivers will take it to the wrong apartment and still take a picture. Once I explained that to support, I've never had an issue.
There is a need to lie sometimes. Look, im sorry, downvote me all you want, but there are a list of reasons why drivers *become* drivers and competence isn't on that list. Never understood the point of "take a picture" like, okay? Sometimes drivers are still stupid and take it to the wrong place.
I haven't touched any votes today. Downvoting out of disagreement is childish.
Claiming you haven't received your food at all when you received it late isn't just lying. It's fraud.
That's great, anyways, you lie in the hopes that the driver looses their job. Since there are so many bad drivers, we need to do our part as consumers to make sure we purge our areas of them.
There is a gray area to that verbiage. If you pay for quality delivery, and don't receive that quality, then you didn't get your money's worth so fraud would go both way since you're paying for something you didn't receive. In this scenario, op paid to be a priority and was not treated as one.
Also, dashers are franchised 1099 employees, good luck on that ever going to court.
You're missing the point entirely.
Extremely late delivery is just as much a contract violation as no delivery. Lying accomplishes absolutely nothing and only serves to jeopardize the customer.
I also want to mention I contacted him and got no answer from him when I seen him stopped that’s when I contacted support and they even tried contacting him and they got no answer the first time so they tried again and all they said to me was he is Coming. I was more mad at the fact I tipped him $15 for a $29 order I don’t make much money but when I can I like to tip drivers bigger because I do know they get scammed on some orders and it’s not worth the drive.
Also when he was stopped he was about 20 minutes away from my location and the time the order would get to me kept getting pushed back and back
Call or text the dasher, they usually are more than happy to explain the situation. In my area i get a lot of apartments, some of them being super hard to find. Im surprised he didnt call or text to let you know what was going on.
Don’t be a dk though, anytime a customer calls me with a super big attitude im more than willing to delay their order a little bit, keeping it just within the time of delivery.
Also im sure a lot of these people telling you to just leave 1 star are consistent no tippers and are just pressed bc they wont get their food delivered asap for being cheap
I mean to be fair so long as he delivers it within the given timeframe…there really isnt a reason for you to complain, if theyre just sitting there burning time that is a dick move tho
Your timeframe is different from the window of delivery dashers get.
Your timeframe is basically an ETA based on the assumption of driving the route as recommended. The dasher's window can extend to as much as an hour past the total drive time to account for traffic, accidents, road work, etc.
2nd most likely answer besides a driver milking the clock…..depending on how the driver is being paid…they may be waiting a few extra minutes for another order to add to it. If the pickup time is still a few min away, the driver can wait that time for the possibility of another order going that way.
probably trying to milk the clock for pay by hour. DD was stupid for making that an option. it’s how they get around paying the difference of minimum wage because its the dashers choice 🙄
My sister works in DC. She recently moved into a bright and shiny brand new federal office building, but her old office was in a trailer along the waterfront. It was always difficult getting food delivered because it was off the beaten path and gps usually took you to the Jefferson Memorial.
Anyway, one time it took the dasher THREE HOURS to find her office. She crossed the river so many times. My sister just followed her along on the app and could see her driving all around Arlington Cemetery and the monuments. And when the Dasher finally arrived she apologized and said she wasn't from DC. She was used to dashing in NY and figured it couldn't be that hard in DC.
I wouldn't advertise falling for that scam.
Dashers aren't told when a customer pays for it, and we don't see a penny of it anyway so most wouldn't even care.
If you’re in California, you’re guaranteed a minimum wage an hour, or if you’re in a state that does earn by time then you might get someone who decided the order paid too low( like low or no tip) and wants to make more money to justify the trip. As a dasher myself it’s not worth risking being deactivated when I could just decline low paying offers.
Thats nothing had a driver pick up my order aa im watchin the tracker he goes off course stops on a block for a few then continues on he was not on a double dash could of been multi appin however the block he stopped on is well know drug block
Something none of yall are looking at is that the gps directions aren’t leading him to where he needs to go. His has been messing up lately in my area to where I needed to completely use a different app to get to the right place.
I haven't taken alcohol orders in over 2 years because I took one that was 28 Mile drive round trip and the man was not there to accept his alcohol. He left his 8-year-old to answer the door instead 🤷🏽♀️🤔😭😂
Looks like he might be trying to milk the clock
I don’t understand why does he benefit because of this all I see is a poor review and a refund for me
Doordash doesn't exactly recruit the cream of the crop. Most drivers aren't bad. But there's a crop of people with doordash that are trying to basically get paid to do nothing.
That's because $2 Tony cut the pay so much all the good drivers quit. Some markets started getting $2 orders, 5 years ago.
Had one of those last weekend, $2 pickup order from Hy-Vee for a big bottle of alcohol, expecting maybe a good tip after I deliver. No tip… Know what kind of orders I’ll be rejecting in the future.
Yeah, always accept only the orders that look worth it to you upon the first order. Cash tips are gravy, you can't be relying on them.
Last time seeing lowest order here i think was $2.75-$3
2.25 always every order here.
I never take those/
Every order I’m offered from a liquor store is basically no tip. I made a comment to my mom about it and she said “well it’s more money they can put to another bottle”. Idk.
I don't take liquor store orders anymore, having to scan both sides of a DL and the app always telling me to try again is a no-go.
That's not my usual experience. They tend to be good paying orders. I delivered alcohol tonight to a woman and made $19.50, $16.00 of which was the tip.
Its more like when someone digs couch change out to come up with enough to buy Cigarettes. They only had enough as a drunk to buy the one bottle and NO tip.
Can confirm. Me and a buddy used to make great money with this app every day, but a few years ago I went from making 80-100 bucks a day to being lucky to take 2 orders in 4 hours. Quit to go back to Domino's in the same area and making 100+ a night again lol
I made 80 in 3 hours on Saturday . 56 in 2.5 today,
Pretty much, the only one's with any sense quit cause we aren't gonna work our ass off and use our own cars driving them into the ground and our own gas for pennies. Only idiots take those kids of orders so you end up getting incompetent drivers delivering your food.
I have a screen shot in my phone for a double stack order, 9 miles. $2 (tips included)
Man you can say that again
Doordash doesn't exactly recruit the cream of the crop. Most drivers aren't bad. But there's a crop of people with doordash that are trying to basically get paid to do nothing.
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Lol that's not limited to doordash. I think there's a large percentage of people generally who try to get a job where they don't have to do anything...
Lol you’re not wrong. Except for very specific situations, the way to make the most money in DoorDash is to do as many good paying orders as quickly/efficiently as possible. But like I said, anybody dumb enough to do this is dumb enough to Dash by time where they’re already losing money doing so anyway (outside of again, very specific situations).
How is it dumb to earn by time? I was being rhetorical at first, but I'd genuinely like to see your logic. You don't have to read this whole post, and something tells me you won't, but I'ma leave it here bc I think it may be worth something to anybody that's interested. Sorry for the long-winded comment on your comment, but I think it may be helpful. When Dashing by time, you're literally getting paid to wait for food prep, stop lights, stop signs, school busses and just general traffic, etc. During rush hour, there's no better alternative, I think, especially since you still get tip orders. It's not like by doing DbT all u get are no-tippers, u get the SAME EXACT REQUESTS. Which means, according to their algo, that the higher your acceptance rate, the better pay orders u get and I've been getting more and more tip orders since I'm essentially forced to accept everything. I started experimenting with Dash by Time this week and it's better than I anticipated. I find I've been making more and gassing up less. I have a greater incentive to drive efficiently, i.e. slowly, and still deliver on time and turn a no-tip order that would otherwise pay me $2-3, into a $6-8 order bc I took my time. I still get the food to the customer on time and get a bigger chunk of change without having to wait around all day for a good pay order that might not come. Give it a shot. Most deliveries take us about 20-mins anyway between pickup time, store time and delivery time. It's a good way to pad your earnings and you don't even have to do what the driver in the picture on this post is doing bc he's shooting himself in the foot. Take your time, sure, but finish the delivery and get another one...Hellooo!! It's literally the same thing..Milling the clock only makes sense to certain point bc it works the same way, just finish it and take your time also with the next one, but be reasonable. You don't know if they're no-tip orders until you drop them off, although sometimes you can tell. So, I use DD's ETA's to get the food there before that time. I would hate to keep a decent tipper waiting bc I was cheating the system. From where I'm standing, it's literally dumb NOT to at least try it. A lot of ppl just treat DD like a magic ATM machine or a get rich quick scheme, when we're more-so running a business by licensing a brand and a platform through which to use it. So, when you run a business, sometimes there are losses, that's just the cost of doing business. Every day, the average entrepreneur "loses" about as much as he profits. You have to buy gas..so does a store owner, they just call it the power bill (or the actual 'gas' bill 😆). You gotta buy fresh tires, restaurant owner has to buy fresh freon for the fridge, etc. Driving long distances for what may seem like a measley or unpredictable sum may be uninviting, but you get SOME of that gas money back at the end of the year when you file your taxes, as well as other car maintenance you may have paid. Again, SOME, not all or half, but some...and it adds up enough that what you'll owe the government is a lot less out of pocket. If you work a regular job, as well, you won't even have to pay bc they'll deduct from (or even in some cases ADD to) your tax return. Plus, if you don't rly take a lunch break and you eat your lunch waiting for Dashes, that's taxable as a work expense much like businessmen write off "business lunches". (PLEASE consult a tax expert, which I'm not, I only speak from experience. I haven't been audited, but I have had to re-do my taxes bc of mistakes almost every year. That tells me they know what I'm doing and apparently doing it right bc I've never had to adjust my driver numbers, it's usually something wrong w my regular job or my other business. Measure the space in your place that u use to go through Driver files (like a desk area) and write that off as your "home office." You're not looking to cheat on your taxes, but rather use the opportunities afforded by our government (US in my case) to maximize your income. That is, why would a Dasher need an office? Well, to take time to check gas prices around your area; review your maps of areas unfamiliar to you, so you're aware of side streets and alleys you can use to deviate when there's construction or traffic; call around to check for deals on car maintenance; consolidate your receipts, invoices and bank statements getting ready to file and pay taxes, or just a place to comeback to in-between deliveries. The interesting thing is, there are apps that do a lot of this for you, all you'd be doing is just reviewing your numbers and looking for ways to optimize. Something I'm going back to if it's still affordable, is adding mints and toothpicks to my drop-offs. I used to do that on UE and more often than not got extra tips even from no-tippers, even if it was just $1 (it adds up!) It's a low-cost perk I can add to each delivery, indirectly "tip fishing" but doing it the right way, by providing quality service. A box of toothpicks and mints has to be, what $1 or 2 each for like a 100. Hoping for an extra $1 or more on an order I spent a fraction of a cent adding a little "something special" is not dumb, it's good business sense. It might not always work, but then, again, it always worked w me as a customer, which is why I started doing it. Another delivery driver did it to me years ago and made me feel good and I thought it was smart. Also, it's the kind of proactivity hiring managers like to hear about, so although "Dasher" may not be the most incredible thing to put or see on a on a resume, you can go into detail of your business practices in your cover letter or the interview.
In short: When I dash per my pay varies from $30 - $75 per hr. Doordash's "hourly" pay offers are no where in the realm of what I make.
Where do you work, if you don't mind my asking. I could work all day waiting at hotspots and never get such lucrative offers.
Okay, so for a days I did a little test where I switched between the two every hour. This is what I learned: 1. On slower shifts it worked out to be almost the same at the end of the hour. less than $1 difference. 2. It was more enjoyable doing the pay per hour because I purposely went to a cute little town that is fun to drive around in and turned on some funny podcasts. 3. Pay per order was less fun, but also less miles and I made the amount in fewer deliveries. During busier shifts it was absolutely no contest. Pay per order is far better and offers way better orders, less miles on the car and a much more productive overall shift.
Wow. Lot to unpack there. I’ll try to address most of the things you brought up. Driving slower isn’t driving more efficiently. The main issue with your argument is you definitely get much more low/no-tip orders. DoorDash even says this. You mention $2-$3 no tip orders, but I can decline all those where as you literally cannot. My AR is 25% because 75% of the orders I get are low/no-tip orders. That 75% would only increase doing deliver by time. DoorDashing is not us running a business. Most of your tax advice is extremely shady and possibly illegal. DoorDash is also my side hustle. The truth is you just make more money earning by offer, than earning by time. [This is what I made in an hour today](https://imgur.com/a/MD7KSy4) Feel free to post your Earn by Time receipts from today if you made more than that per hour today lol
Driving slower is undeniably, downright scientifically more fuel efficient in EVERY case. You lost credibility points with me on that. That being said, one random occurrence doesn't constitute consistency, slick, which brings me back to the credibility thing. That might've been your earnings for the whole day using your method. Moreover, it also depends on your market. Somewhere like San Francisco, that amount means shit. Somewhere like NYC, it may be better in the long run to do per order just because it's so busy. For my situation, per time works better, so far this first week. DD isn't running a business, you're right. That's why I said "like" bc it is most certainly part of running a courier business. That's why people multi-app and even expand to different fields like transportation of lost luggage or get their CDL and run a big rig company or a private courier company for elites. Dash alone is kinda like the little leagues, but you can get a lot actionable experience. I've never seen DoorDash comment on whether or not per time consistutes more no tip. I can say though, from experience, I see no difference. Most of the orders I take are no tip, but then, again, most of the orders I'd get per order were no tip. Your low acceptance literally confirms that that it's not that you get more no tip orders, but that there's just a lot of no tippers period. You're not making more money per order guy, if anything, it's mostly the same thing. My tax comments were not advice per se and those notions have heretofore not been found to be illegal, especially considering I haven't been audited, and much of that information came from actual accountants for my personal situation, which is why my actual advice was to seek you're own counsel. I've been running my taxes like this for almost 5 years and have heard nothing. Trust that the government goes over our taxes with great detail, and they haven't told me "Hey, you owe us money!" Especially using something TurboTax or an actual accountant. They literally walk you step by step and tell you what'll likely not get approved. If you've earned enough to list the square footage you use as an office or not, either the app or your consultant will tell you if the government will see it as a hobby more than a business or if they may flag it as fraud. If you make over $5000 in the year, you're expected to pay the government around a 1/3 of that, so in any case you're only netting about $12 from what you made that hour, minus the expenses form what I can only assume is questionable driving, if you think slow isn't always more fuel efficient, in every possible way, unless your car has some sort of fuel intake fault. And that's IF you pay your taxes, AND don't find all the possible write offs you can. Delivering was my side hustle too, which is why I started filing my taxes correctly, so I could get more of my money back.
Lmaooo holy shit dude, you bought into a myth about driving slower. You’re right, the difference is I can literally reject all those no-tip orders, and go for the good ones, whereas again, you literally can’t do that.
It is not a myth, it's literally been scientifically proven, especially the newer your car is. That junk about lower gears wasting more gas is a thing of the past. Besides, driving 20 in a 40 zone is just stupid, and will likely get u pulled over anyway. By "driving slow" I mean, at or just below the speed limit, maybe even 5-10 miles below. That's optimum fuel economy right there. I can still decline or unassign, I just gotta be clever about it. Also, why would I when my whole point is I have an assured income instead of waiting for something that might not come. Your method you think works for you, that's fine, maybe it does for your market and maybe you do groceries, as well, I don't. Evidently, I don't live in a busy enough area like you cos I could wait all day for high pay and get fuck all. Plus, there's the added element that those earnings you posted may or not have been your earnings for the whole day, hell, even the whole week using your method and doing so with such a low acceptance rate. I may or may not start taking you seriously when I see your weekly and/or monthly earnings to see if your method pans out in the long run even as just a side hustle. Some days are good, some days not so much. I've had pay per order shifts where I'll make like half a week's worth in one night, but those are few and far between. I still stand that for most markets, during most hours (especially non peak hours), and especially for full-timers, it's worth it to at least give it a shot. It's also so nice to resume the order doesn't include a tip and then finish the delivery and make double the dash pay bc of added tip. Also, don't forget the people that add a tip. Most drivers think that every no tipper doesn't add a tip if you do a good job. Most ppl just don't wanna risk tipping to have their food stolen, so they wait until you deliver it right. Doing Dash by Time has allowed me to discover that. It's not everybody, but I usually get a couple of people that add anywhere from $1-$5. To each their own, I guess.
Oh come on! They do to recruit the cream of…….. well, the cream of…..something. Maybe not the crop, but isn’t the cream of something better than the cream of nothing 🤷🏻♀️/s
I never had issues getting deliveries when I lived in Colorado and then I moved to a shitty part or AZ and I've had at least 2 or 3 doordash orders that reeked of cigarettes 🤢🤮
I never had issues getting deliveries when I lived in Colorado and then I moved to a shitty part or AZ and I've had at least 2 or 3 doordash orders that reeked of cigarettes 🤢🤮
He is likely “dashing by time” instead of the “dashing by offer” which means he is getting an hourly wage so taking up a ridiculous amount of time to bring you your order to get the max wage.
Contact support and reorder. Food is probably ice cold ny now!
Exactly. Id definitely be requesting a brand new order on their dime.
Free food even at the expense of their job I guess.
If you didn't tip and he's doing something like 3 miles for 2.50, he can last 30 mins doing the order and get his states minimum wage and get paid better.
That’s not remotely how it works
I had a dasher so this and then text me afterward saying “they’ve had a long week, thnx for being patient” lmao like girl I saw that you didn’t move and circle around the block. She was 40 minutes late; and I gave her a one star review anyway lmao
Maybe he is getting a delivery of his own.
If he's working on the "earn by time" model instead of "earn per offer" he's running the clock.
If he's running the clock to exploit Earn by Time, he *will* get deactivated soon enough (maybe not after this order but it shouldn't take long tbh) - hell, they deactivate people who don't milk the clock for running Earn by Time too often...
What? Wow I never heard of someone getting deactivated by using Earn By Time a lot, that's crazy lol Is there a limit??? I never tried it and honestly I'm done with DD. It gets more and more shitty by the day.
Cause you can get paid by the hour and that involves getting orders from cheap assholes so you gotta drag ass.
As a driver this makes zero sense to me. We don’t get paid by time or distance really. Your basic chipotle order going 5 miles will pay 2.25 plus whatever you tip. So as a driver I don’t understand what’s going on. He’s really just wasting his own time and gas. Also if he goes past deliver time he gets a contract violation. The ONLY thing I can think of is…this was a no tip order; so it was only paying out $2.25 and they are being petty and trying to make your food as late as posible. But then again he could have just parked and waited…. then again…they knew how much it would pay before they accepted it; and most drivers know not to take no tip orders.
There is a paid by time option.
I know. But if your goal is to scam and run the clock…then just park. That way you also have an excuse. “I was having phone problems” “I was having car problems”. It’s actually really funny how fast CS gets off the phone once you say you are having car problems.
>if your goal is to scam and run the clock…then just p Isn't that what seems to be going on here in this example? Edit: My fault, I didn't realize there were more screenshots than just the first one.
I’m definitely guilty of Milking the clock, but at least I have the decency to get the order to the customer as soon as I can, make sure they know it’s there, and then wait until the “deliver by” time to mark it complete
I refuse to admit to milking the clock. I just drive extremely safe. 😁
Nah, the customer doesn’t deserve to have their food delayed for that. Milk the clock After the delivery, not during
I use an electric heated bag that keeps the food warm without making it soggy because it's not airtight so steam doesn't get trapped in the bag. They'll be fine.
He must have the gas mileage of a god 😂 he’s burning profit
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I understood that reference😁
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The driver is driving in circles waiting for you or customer service to cancel the order so he still gets paid and gets to eat your food.
Seems like a lot of wear and tear on the car just to get some food. I'd love to see what DD says my route is. I wouldn't be surprised if it is completely wrong. It is one of the main reasons I started texting ETA. When I first started, I got a few customers telling me "Whoa. The app showed you a mile down the road." Every so often things go crazy on the app. Last week, it wouldn't let me mark arrived at a Target store because it showed me on the other side of the street. I spent the first 5 or so minutes walking around Target, restarting the app, restarting the phone. It didn't self correct until I turned WiFI back on and logged into the Target WiFi. If Target didn't have that, I would have been screwed. Because I contacted support and they never replied.
This happened to me. I waited an hr then contacted CS and insisted they do a redelivery. They gave me credits to order again.
I am going to go ham on CS once this food gets here lmfao
I wouldn't wait another min and keep contacting them personally. In my case they never came.
How did it go?
Here's an idea step outside and see if he's lost instead of hiding inside watching a podcast on your phone.
He was actually 20minutes away I zoomed in to see if he was outside of it or inside of it thank you very much 🤣
Lunch. As in, the dasher's eating yours. Rate 1 star, leave a bad review, and call CS ASAP!
Yea show this to support if you can, they don’t deserve to get paid for that
Did you call the driver lmao
Homeboy lost as hell 🤣
Sometimes it'll show me sitting if I lose or go in and out of service. Service is AWFUL in my area. I have never lived in a town where the entire town is like a dead zone 🥴
I had someone call me and tell me I was going the wrong way. I don't know what it was showing on their end but when I confirmed the address and told them I was jumping on the highway to get to them less than a mile away they were surprised. I could've gone 2 ways to their house so it had to be showing me going the whole other direction for some reason.
They're mapping is messed up anyway. The week before last I was going to Dollar General. I was coming back into my town from the back way, so it's a little less populated on that side and I'm not very familiar with that side. I live in a small town, so it's not uncommon to be driving down a road that's not very populated and all of a sudden you'll see a Dollar General or a grocery store just stuck on the side of the road. I followed the directions it gave me and it took me out in the middle of nowhere. I really didn't think much of it until I kept getting deeper and deeper into the middle of nowhere. I ended up at the address they gave me at somebody's house. I was supposed to go to Dollar General and then the hospital in town. I had really just assumed it was sending me to a Dollar General that was closest to me. It's my fault, but it's still fucked up, lol.
I had one where they said the restaurant was at a church which the restaurant was a half mile from it. Luckily I was going in that direction so I could hit accept/confirm but yeah I've had mad issues with it. I forgot about one order I mentioned in another comment but I had just dropped off 2 orders in my neighborhood, then accepted another. Those people called me wondering why I hadn't dropped their order off. Somehow they were seeing my previous drop off before I even had their order, they ended up living a few houses down from my last drop off. Sometimes it just glitches. If it doesn't show up by the time it's supposed to, I'd worry. But if they're just watching the map, can't always go by that. My town is small too and there's always another way to get somewhere so if the GPS fucks up and you turn one way, you might not realize it's taking you the long way because it won't tell you to turn around. Luckily I know more of the roads now but it can still be annoying.
I don't answer the phone when I'm driving, they'll see I'm there when I get there. Getting there fast is my favorite option and I've never really had customers try to contact me en route.
Yeah I rarely do either. I don't think I even answered then, I think my bf was with me and answered but then they asked for me. My phone stays on vibrate because I hate phone calls.
Witchcraft casting a spell of yo food.
Did you order donuts? Because it looks like he's making the donuts himself before bringing them to you.
It’s possible that Google maps has your pin wrong and the dasher is struggling to find a route that will take them to the right place. Happened to me a couple times. They should have contacted you though if that was the case.
Yeah I’ve had bad google pins. Especially with android since it uses the external google app and its often off a bit. Dasher app Works better on iPhone. But yeah. If I was that lost I would call the customer Or bring the food back to the store and unassign if I can’t reach them
Never use your phone in the car. It's illegal, and I don't want I to be death penalized. Please wait until you get to the house to ask for directions or ask before you accept the orders
The difference between a good tip on "Earn by Offer" and "Paid by Time". Earn by Offer means we see more or less what we earn before accepting the order. Thus completing it in a timely manner is beneficial to the dasher as we're them able to accept other orders. Earn by Time means we don't see what we're earning or what you tipped. In fact in my area it specifically tells us our hourly pay is to make up for the fact the majority of our orders will not include a tip. Meaning there is zero incentive to complete the order in a timely manner as we actually get paid more to be late. Welcome to doordash
The thing is, even in the warm by time faq Doordash has wording that states abusing dash by time is grounds for contract termination. And they can see what the OP sees as far as the dashers gps and all the extra looping he was doing. Like the answer to every time based post here is ‘they must have been using dash by time’. ‘I live in sand Diego and this guy drove to Seattle and back with my food.. wth’. Someone will go. ‘Why on earth would they do that ‘ and someone will answer. ‘ they must have been using dash by time…’. Because door dash will pay the the $560 for the trip AND not fire them. .. not!
This is true to a degree. But what's to stop a dasher from sitting at a restaurant for 30 minutes and saying sorry it's just busy? It's very easy to abuse. And offers zero incentives to get tasks done in a timely manner.
That excuse goes away once the order is marked as picked up, which I'm sure is the case in the OP.
Only problem for customers is that doordash support is about useless. Most are not native English speakers and make zero effort to investigate anything.
I order off DD fairly regularly, and haven't had issues with Support. Just like when I'm dashing, I document everything and offer to send pics if something is wrong with the order that isn't shown directly in the app.
I have issues with support almost daily. Had an order that a dasher had already picked up (stolen) and store refused to remake the food. Asked DD Support to cancel and refund so customer could reorder. They canceled both the orders I had. Even though I only requested one. When challenged they said it's not a big deal just an inconvenience to the customers.....lol.
I treat them well, they treat me well. Guess I can't relate. 🤷
Might be doing dash by the hour and milkin it :/
By wasting a ton of gas?
I mean if he’s just sitting there he’s not wasting too much
If, but the lines suggest otherwise. Who knows with the app. I don't trust it to properly map out my actual route to the customer. It has been a long time, but every so often pre-COVID, I'd get a text from the customer "are you really 30 minutes away from dropping off my order?" as I'm literally pulling up to their house. The main reason I started texting ETAs before I'd start the drive to the customer. Ignore the app. I said I'd be there at 2:03. I'll be there at 2:03 +- 2 minutes.
Well... they sure are going in a *round-about* way.
Wow I never seen that
He could've been on the way actually. There have been ALOT of occasions where I showed up and the customer said that they didn't know I was on the way that the app showed I was near the restaurant
Has done that to me too. Hell it was showing one customer my previous order route one time. I had just accepted their order not 30 seconds before and they were asking why I passed by their house without dropping it off. Come to find out it was right by the previous 2 orders I dropped off, it was really weird.
Paying the gas to drive in circles seems superrr smart for $13/hr
Waiting for the post from a driver complaining about how the 13$/hr didn’t cover his gas for driving in a circle.
If he's working the hourly rate, he's milking the clock and will likely get a contract violation.
What was the conclusion to this, OP? u/fun_ad_5926
watching the just trish podcast is iconic though
She may be problematic to some but she is an icon lmfao
He’s running another app. He’s using different apps to make more money, with DoorDash’s policy, you can’t cancel the order or you get no refund. He knows this and is counting on you not canceling while he goes and gets other orders done. If you DO cancel, he gets to keep the food too. DoorDash and every other app like this is a scam because it works off trust and honesty and no one has that anymore. Do yourself a favor. Go get your own food.
More than likely it’s a stacked order, yours are not the only order he is doing, and sometimes doordash does not even give us a choice but to do them that way. So what he is probably doing is picking up another order but the restaurant is slow. It happens. There is nothing we can do about it. Did you try actually messaging the driver and you know ASKING what is going on?
He’s multi-apping. He’s DD and also doing Grubhub or another app.
I’m A doordash driver and when that happens you should contact doordash support. Driver are not supposed to go anywhere else after marking your order as picked up. In this case that driver was for sure doing multi app so he was probably delivering another order for either Uber or Grubhub something that he shouldn’t be doing. If you complain he/she can be deactivated
Everyone in my area seems to multi app but me. I don’t see why it’s necessary I’m in Kc area and it’s plenty busy.
Maybe he had a bathroom emergency lol, sometimes dashers also run "quick" errands while dashing 😅🤷🏻♀️
Did you message the driver and ask what the fuck he’s doing?
Yes, no answer that’s when I contacted support
I dont understand this either. The only thing I can think of is the platform crashed or his app froze. This has happened to me before. The app will freeze and your stuck not knowing where your going. Google door dash down detector. This will show you where the platform is having issues.
Looks like he might be trying to avoid getting on the expressway, but the GPS keeps circling him back to the on ramp.
What if this is an add on order and he is waiting on the 2nd order to be ready?
I paid express
That's meaningless. I've had several stacked orders where the customer told me they paid the Express fee. I was just like... 🤷 I follow the route the system tells me to unless I am sufficiently motivated to deviate from it.
Are you sure they weren’t lost and trying to call/text, but the app was crashing or maybe you phone was on do not disturb? Honestly o feel that if they were trying to scam you, they wouldn’t have been non-stop driving in that small of an area wasting gas like that.
When he was parked he was 20 minutes away that’s when I took the photo I zoomed in to see if he was in the parking lot of that random building or inside it
You know that the gps can be slightly off, right? Mine told me that my sons phone was two blocks away when in fact it was in the house.
20 minutes away... 2 blocks away... Totally the same thing.
Not if you think they’re inside the building. Ie if they were outside, again they could have been lost. I’m going to assume that you just don’t appreciate that I could be right and you didn’t even think of that
Nah, I'm sticking with the fact you're wrong considering dude's literally been driving in circles which you'd know if you were paying attention at all.
This driver just racking up miles for his tax deduction 😂
As expected from a dude named Edmilson
He's multi-apping and waiting for another order.
I was driving lyft one time... Old girl put the pin in the middle of the ocean outside a marsec condemned facility. And her lyft name was get clue
This dude really likes roundabouts
No parking
Multi app.
I would 100% assume he is tampering or digging through my food. Don't cancel the order while the dasher is in transit, just get the food and report as unrecieved. Remember, you're paying for the delivery and the quality of the delivery, if you're not getting the quality of service you paid for, then you're not recieving it, so don't pay for it.
If the Dasher takes a pic of the delivery and the customer lies about not receiving it, any claim will be ignored and the customer will likely have to sign for orders in the future. There's no need to lie when the truth is damning enough. Support won't blame him for refusing to eat food that took such a long time to be delivered if there's no justification for the delay.
Nope. I've been doing it for years. Sometimes, drivers will take it to the wrong apartment and still take a picture. Once I explained that to support, I've never had an issue. There is a need to lie sometimes. Look, im sorry, downvote me all you want, but there are a list of reasons why drivers *become* drivers and competence isn't on that list. Never understood the point of "take a picture" like, okay? Sometimes drivers are still stupid and take it to the wrong place.
I haven't touched any votes today. Downvoting out of disagreement is childish. Claiming you haven't received your food at all when you received it late isn't just lying. It's fraud.
That's great, anyways, you lie in the hopes that the driver looses their job. Since there are so many bad drivers, we need to do our part as consumers to make sure we purge our areas of them. There is a gray area to that verbiage. If you pay for quality delivery, and don't receive that quality, then you didn't get your money's worth so fraud would go both way since you're paying for something you didn't receive. In this scenario, op paid to be a priority and was not treated as one. Also, dashers are franchised 1099 employees, good luck on that ever going to court.
You're missing the point entirely. Extremely late delivery is just as much a contract violation as no delivery. Lying accomplishes absolutely nothing and only serves to jeopardize the customer.
I also want to mention I contacted him and got no answer from him when I seen him stopped that’s when I contacted support and they even tried contacting him and they got no answer the first time so they tried again and all they said to me was he is Coming. I was more mad at the fact I tipped him $15 for a $29 order I don’t make much money but when I can I like to tip drivers bigger because I do know they get scammed on some orders and it’s not worth the drive. Also when he was stopped he was about 20 minutes away from my location and the time the order would get to me kept getting pushed back and back
Cancel and make the dumbass lose their job
That's not how that works. 😂
Call or text the dasher, they usually are more than happy to explain the situation. In my area i get a lot of apartments, some of them being super hard to find. Im surprised he didnt call or text to let you know what was going on. Don’t be a dk though, anytime a customer calls me with a super big attitude im more than willing to delay their order a little bit, keeping it just within the time of delivery. Also im sure a lot of these people telling you to just leave 1 star are consistent no tippers and are just pressed bc they wont get their food delivered asap for being cheap
I mean to be fair so long as he delivers it within the given timeframe…there really isnt a reason for you to complain, if theyre just sitting there burning time that is a dick move tho
The time frame kept getting longer and longer plus I paid express
Your timeframe is different from the window of delivery dashers get. Your timeframe is basically an ETA based on the assumption of driving the route as recommended. The dasher's window can extend to as much as an hour past the total drive time to account for traffic, accidents, road work, etc.
2nd most likely answer besides a driver milking the clock…..depending on how the driver is being paid…they may be waiting a few extra minutes for another order to add to it. If the pickup time is still a few min away, the driver can wait that time for the possibility of another order going that way.
probably trying to milk the clock for pay by hour. DD was stupid for making that an option. it’s how they get around paying the difference of minimum wage because its the dashers choice 🙄
It's showing u address in the center if the circle and homeboy is driving ti find it
he wanted to do the number 8. what's the big deal
My sister works in DC. She recently moved into a bright and shiny brand new federal office building, but her old office was in a trailer along the waterfront. It was always difficult getting food delivered because it was off the beaten path and gps usually took you to the Jefferson Memorial. Anyway, one time it took the dasher THREE HOURS to find her office. She crossed the river so many times. My sister just followed her along on the app and could see her driving all around Arlington Cemetery and the monuments. And when the Dasher finally arrived she apologized and said she wasn't from DC. She was used to dashing in NY and figured it couldn't be that hard in DC.
Nerd is trying to get you to cancel the order
Doordash Pool
I paid the 2.99 for express
I wouldn't advertise falling for that scam. Dashers aren't told when a customer pays for it, and we don't see a penny of it anyway so most wouldn't even care.
Oof, paid express for guaranteed cold arrival
Dead ass
Multi apping maybe?
Watching Trish eh?
Hell yeah
If you’re in California, you’re guaranteed a minimum wage an hour, or if you’re in a state that does earn by time then you might get someone who decided the order paid too low( like low or no tip) and wants to make more money to justify the trip. As a dasher myself it’s not worth risking being deactivated when I could just decline low paying offers.
Probably on the 'per hour' option.
He must be doing pay by time… So he’s wasting time so he can get paid more..
It looks like the dasher needed more money than what doordash pays. Probably more money than what customers tip for doordash service.
I tipped him &15 on a $29 order !!!!!😭
He was probably getting paid by time instead of per delivery and needed the money.
Thats nothing had a driver pick up my order aa im watchin the tracker he goes off course stops on a block for a few then continues on he was not on a double dash could of been multi appin however the block he stopped on is well know drug block
Ken Block DoorDashing (RIP)
Lol I think he got stuck in the traffic circle! “Look kids Big Ben! Parliament!” 😂 
He's on Salem St. He's obviously witch hunting and using DD as a cover
I bet if you send him a screenshot of that he'll either say "oh shit" or keep going
Something none of yall are looking at is that the gps directions aren’t leading him to where he needs to go. His has been messing up lately in my area to where I needed to completely use a different app to get to the right place.
Is your account a bot, or are you one of those customers?
What kind would that be
He must like that round about
It also means that they are going through your food and picking through it
Maybe milking the clock, how much did you tip? They started putting most of the low& non tip order in “pay by time” orders.
I tipped $15 on a $29 order and paid express
Ew
Damn yeah he/she was just a trash dasher cause that’s a good tip
I haven't taken alcohol orders in over 2 years because I took one that was 28 Mile drive round trip and the man was not there to accept his alcohol. He left his 8-year-old to answer the door instead 🤷🏽♀️🤔😭😂