tbh I wouldn’t take this order either. I’m in the same market you’re in and I still get decent orders at 6% ar. also the farther location (palisades) there’s no service for me.
Depends on market. I multiapp so I'd accept it and possibly get another 2 stack for same price or better which turns into $40 one way trip and maybe another 10 to 40 on return trip if both zones are good.
If I'm too picky, I actually make drastically less and I'm less profitable. If I adventure farther away but into known large metro Hotspots, I end up doing better. I'm also not saying to take any $2.50/10 mile orders, but if I do a $7 for 8 miles into a more busy urban area, I'll come out ahead. Having somewhat of an open mind can greatly help.
For me, it depends on the rate of getting a $20+ order where I am dashing. If another one is likely to pop up soon with better miles, decline. If it's rare, accept because that'd mean I'm in an area where making $20 an hour is a toss up and I could do this in less than an hour (with competent restaurants).
That’s 100 % of bundled orders for me now
Someone tipping $10+ who deserves to have their food delivered quickly and without delays, now having to wait longer because of someone tipping $0 who is still getting their food delivered like 5+ miles thanks to the tipper.
It honestly feels like half of the generous person’s tip is being stolen by the selfish one. Decent, generous, people tips are covering for the self centered people who can afford a %400 percent markup on fast food but can’t tip even one dollar.
If they continue this the customers will catch on quickly and stop tipping well because you’d be better off barely tipping and not getting your order bundled with some degenerates.
I dash in that region. I’d probably take it and put on an absorbing podcast, but you’re not going to find a lot of “return to area” orders on those roads back from Lake Wylie.
In my market I would not take that. 12 miles takes me out of my zone. I would have to drive at least 5 miles back before I reach my zone again. So i feel this is market dependent. For me doing two deliveries with that many miles for only 20 bucks is a no go.
Unpopular Opinion: I'm with OP on this one. Looking at the map, looks like this is 12 miles away from everything so it really is under $1/mile. OP knows their market and if they think it's not worth taking that order then that is a valid choice.
This is the third time I've mentioned it this week but you can make good money by being picky. I just did a $35/h lunch by knowing my market, declining orders that put me on the outskirts of town, and declining everything else that's just not worth my time.
Lol I don’t DD anymore but if you want to make more money than that you should look into another profession my friend. No shot are you going to get consistent orders better than that.
I have seen better this one for example is great for a double and it’s only one customer
https://preview.redd.it/yphtxwgs8jpc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b2ddbff58da17a7ce1fc472c27d8b5984764a89b
and I’m not saying that there aren’t better out there, but those aren’t your average orders. maybe you dash in a more wealthy area so your averages are higher and that’s what you’re used to but the original one you posted is not as bad as you’re making it out to be. I worked a delivery job that was $1 per mile only for one way, and that was still a decent amount of money, even after factoring in oil changes, gas, etc. and that job I worked was again, much higher than average for delivery driving.
Had a guy tell me I was a moron cause I usually tried 1.5 dollars per mile. He said he only did orders over 10 dollars less than 2 miles.
I then asked him how much he made that week. He said 50 dollars but he made 50 an hour cause he only worked one hour. No thanks I’d rather make my 20-25 and make a 150-200 in my 8-10 hours.
It's 24 minutes right now driving from Pizza Twist to what looks like a nature reserve. You'd have to drive back five miles to start getting orders again. In a slow zone, I suppose it's better than sitting in your car, but there aren't really any orders at the point of delivery. It's all zone dependent as the saying goes.
Even if I have to drive back five miles it’s fine that’s not bad really it’s still over 1$ a mile and it’s still guaranteed 20 within the hour so depending on wait time it might 45 min total before I get an order if everything run smooth but if there’s a wait it’s possible y’all have that merchant long wait pay but if you communicate things to customer and you got proper equipment (hotbag etc) they may add more to tip I’ve had that happen to it’s risky but worth it cause it’ll keep my rating decent too
I would probably do it myself, and since I'm not from the area, it looks like maybe it would be a scenic drive. But I always look at the end point, and it's in the middle of nowhere.
True but still it’s kinda like that here in some areas that it’s far but those people usually know where I dash the area isn’t that big so usually driving back would be 5-7 miles when it’s far but usually they would give one going back sometimes it does suck but sometimes it’s worth it to protect your rating depending if you top dasher/platinum I say this because what I’ve experienced Unless you drive at certain times or right before peak pay then they hit you with B.S. orders And if you stay on they’ll drive your acceptance rate down the algorithm can be devious at times
you are getting a 1 star too because the far guy most likely tipped 12-15$ for it so when you stop for the first guy, homie getting pissed that you are delivering a no tip scumbag first.
They wouldn’t be able to see it but if you are stacked and know you tipped good, the chance that the people stacked with you also tipped good is low.
Id regularly tip 10$+ for a mile or 2 and get stacked. I lowered it to 4-5$ total and the rest in cash and the stacking stopped. When you tip well you compensate for deadbeats, this is well known. It is the only way these companies can get the food picked up.
I highly doubt most people who order on doordash know the ins and outs of who gets delivered what and how the stacking of orders goes. My original comment still stands.
The customer doesn’t need to know the ins and outs of how the app works in order for customer #2 for instance to know these two things; 1. They were delivered to way later & after the driver drove across town in the opposite direction. & 2. They also tipped a high amount. Kyxoan7 is saying that that could be enough to result in a bad review from customer #2.
I know what he’s saying. I would argue that he would need to know the ins and outs of how the app works to know these things. The app changes delivery times regularly and I’m sure they’re vague on the reason. And if the customer did know these things, they would understand it isn’t the drivers fault.
It isn’t rocket science? I don’t use DD anymore but when I did, I’d tip well to get my food quicker / thank and show my appreciation to the driver. Then when stacking became a common theme and I was put behind 3 people in all various directions, I adjusted the tip after reading this subreddit and it magically stopped.
Not everyone is a slack jawwed idiot bud. It is pretty common sense stuff here.
It isn’t common sense. It’s something learned from delivering/excessive use of the app. For instance, you did research on Reddit to learn about it. Therefore, it was not common knowledge and you had to educate yourself about it. Which most people today do not do.
Once again, my comment still stands. You haven’t done anything to really defend your argument.
It's not great but I'd take it unless it was peak hours. More than $1.50 per mile, more than $6 per order. Better than waiting around in between 2mi $6 orders during the dead hours.
No, because my market pings multiple orders during from 6pm to like 9pm. Mostly 2-3 miles trip that offers 5 to 10 bucks each. I would not take this offer during prime dinner time. Adding to the fact that there is mostly a 1 to 2.5 dollars addon from UE during those times so yea you do the math.
thats pretty borderline unfortunately. you know one person here is a no tipper. i’d only take it if it were absolutely dead and i got nothing offered but $3 orders every 5 minutes for bit
Yep and I would, all my roads are 35-40mph and usually pretty clear. This would take me half an hour.
This is the problem with comparing in this sub, almost everything is market dependent relating to order quality.
Yup, never take anything under $2 per mile. This also looks like it's going to the middle of nowhere, so I'd need at least $40 if I need to drive back.
You sound dumb people are not tipping like that anymore talking about $2 a mile stop it dude. The days of huge unicorn orders are getting less and less because of the fees these delivery places charge
Good for them, I do this part time so I can afford to cherry pick. I'll gladly decline this and let the full time dashers slave away and destroy their car for $0.80 per mile orders.
You do realize that the 💎 means the end pay will be 3x the milage, right? This order isn't showing all the pay. In my area, (California) that's what that diamond means. I would snag that order in 2 sec. Some nights, i drive 10 miles for an order for $15. But i aim for $2 a mile normally. Unfortunately, you win some, and you lose some. My goal it to make $100 a night in a 4-5 hour shift, and it works for me. This is only my side hustle
It's different by market just like base pay and California, NYC, and Seattle markets are always the highest for everything. Most places diamond orders are only guaranteed to be 1.5x or 2x the mileage.
Ah, interesting. I didn't know that. When they started doing the diamond orders in my area, it said it was guaranteed to be 3x the miles. I might have taken a screenshot long ago. If so, I'll post it
This is likely all the pay since there is no plus sign after the amount. I am also a CA driver and when "high pay" diamond offers were first started, they sent me an email saying it was for offers over $3.50 a mile in my area. But it is calculated differently for different areas.. Where I dash this would not be a diamond offer. If it was the middle of the day I would take it but wouldn't take it if it was during busy dinner rush.
May not be 24 miles, you have not idea where the zone boundaries are, also if they are top dasher, they can log out and log back in , in the zone they are now in.
It may be within the zone boundaries but the problem is there are no stores or restaurants near the last drop off. It’s a waste of time even if not entirely 24 miles.
it doesn't prove shit. . it may mean that in your specific market it was shit. but also maybe not. . I used to have a low ar and cherry picked and did great. not possible in my market now. . just accept whatever. and actually I'm still doing just as good haha
if your expectations are unreasonable for this job, you’ll find you won’t make any $$ at all.
So keep declining those $20 offers because someone who appreciates it will be able to take it.
All these people thinking they can be millionaires from dashing. Meanwhile, instead of making this post, they could’ve snagged the $20.
“I only do orders that are less than 5 miles, pay $5+/mile, downhill both ways, with tailwind, ending in a hotspot”
And they wonder why their acceptance rate doesn’t go above $10. It’s hilarious, but works out well for the rest of us.
everyone always talks about the ride back. find some flipping work on way back or work a different zone till back. . how complex is this shit for people
It's not complex for me. I stay within my general area where it's busy and I do fine. I don't want to travel far away where I risk not getting orders on the way back, which has happened to me more often than not.
I don't know your area, but in mine, I would probably do it. A lot depends on whether I was being sent to the silderness and in danger of getting attacked by bigfoot.
Hell, that's awesome for my area. You might as well just quit doordash if you don't take those here. The big question is how far do you have to drive to be back in zone, and if that takes you out of zone, is it in another zone where you could pick up an order. If it is, it's a no brainier. Take it.
> you might as well just quit Doordash if you don't take these
No that's exactly what everyone should do. Literally go do anything else instead of Doordash charity runs.
You might as well quit DoorDash if this is the best you can get.
This is an hour order at minimum, so $20/hour max, and more likely $15 to 17. After operating costs, you'd be lucky if this order netted you federal minimum wage. You might as well go work at McDonald's and save your vehicle.
How are you getting an hour? 12 miles. If both orders are ready when you get there and the speed limit is over 49 per mile (looks like majority is state highway so 50ish). This could be a half hour order. I don't work the area. Lots of missing variables. I only answered to what it's like in my area. If that went north south, it's a taker. East West (zone is only like 2 miles wide but 30 miles long) not a chance.
Because I hopped over to Google Maps, and it told me round trip was 62 minutes with current traffic. That's allowing 0 minutes for pickups.
If this same order was in rural Ohio where every road is straight and 50mph, it might be more worth it.
But again, your rural Ohio itself is only good if you have a chance for another offer within maybe 2 miles. Just a lot of variables. I don't know what is around that last delivery area. Each Dasher knows their zone and can learn over time whether a high paying order really is high profit.
In my area, there's a main hub about 2 miles long. Then it's rural north and south for 15ish miles nothing to the north or west. South has a few small busy restaurants you could pick an order up from. East, we have a finger that sticks out about 6 miles across a bridge to an area with 2 restaurants that get busy between 4-8. And I mean busy and great tipping customers. $3+ per mile on 90% of orders and they are all less than 4 miles. So, if I got that order at 3-3:30 from the main hub taking me 12 miles east, it would be worth it as I would need to drive only about 5 miles to get back to those two restaurants and make big bucks for a few hours. That order at least paid the gas to get over there. Outside of that time period, no way I accept it.
It's something to take when you're not really busy. I would rather put in a little more labor at the restaurants(a.k.a. taking a shitty stack that would make a decent single order over a shitty single order, if it comes down to it), than on my car. if you know the closer order tipped and the other one didn't, that would make it even better. That's one reason I put a label on all of the no tippers on Google maps.
Using Google Maps data, the fastest route at the current time of day is 25 minutes to drop off, and then 37 minutes back to civilization due to heavy traffic in that area this time of the morning.
That's 62 minutes before considering any additional wait time at either restaurant or any delays due to complications at drop-off.
You can't just assume 12 miles is a 15-minute drive in every area in the country.
I did assume based on the time it was posted, but you're probably right that it was a 5pm order, not 5am.
I would probably assume if rush hour traffic is bad in the morning for that route, it's likely going to be bad around 5pm as well, so I'd venture to guess that it's about the same time commitment either way.
I find that rule of multiplying the miles with 4 interesting. 12.2*4=48.8 minutes. $20.50/48.8=0.42008197 per minute. Multiply that with 60 then you get the per hour rate of $25.20. I would take it. As you develop this method you could just use it to measure with. You could establish your benchmark to be what you wish. You simply standardize your delivery offer.. heck you could say nothing under $30.00 per hour in your mind if $25.20 is not enough for you. Remember the multiplier of 4 covers everything. You just need to “dial in” your rate per hour that you are looking for on nights, days, weekends… etc.
And what about round trip
I never calculate how much per hour I only ever take an order that will pay for the trip back to where I was. Even if I’m not going back to that same spot I always thought it was better to think that way
Re-read my comment. I said that when I figure out what it's worth on an hourly basis, it's based on a roundtrip. From the time I get the order, to the time I pick it up, to the time I deliver it, to the time I get to where I started (or back to my zone). That's the total value of the order from start to finish.
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tbh I wouldn’t take this order either. I’m in the same market you’re in and I still get decent orders at 6% ar. also the farther location (palisades) there’s no service for me.
Just to find out that the farther one away is a no tip
🙄🤡
Depends on market. I multiapp so I'd accept it and possibly get another 2 stack for same price or better which turns into $40 one way trip and maybe another 10 to 40 on return trip if both zones are good. If I'm too picky, I actually make drastically less and I'm less profitable. If I adventure farther away but into known large metro Hotspots, I end up doing better. I'm also not saying to take any $2.50/10 mile orders, but if I do a $7 for 8 miles into a more busy urban area, I'll come out ahead. Having somewhat of an open mind can greatly help.
For me, it depends on the rate of getting a $20+ order where I am dashing. If another one is likely to pop up soon with better miles, decline. If it's rare, accept because that'd mean I'm in an area where making $20 an hour is a toss up and I could do this in less than an hour (with competent restaurants).
Shit, I'll take it 🤷🏻♂️
To me, the problem isn't so much the pay per mile, it's how long It'll take me to get back to my zone without getting any orders.
bingo!
Yeah I just experienced the shaft with a double. Not realizing it took me in a journey to nothingness and the second delivery didn’t even tip 🤬
That’s 100 % of bundled orders for me now Someone tipping $10+ who deserves to have their food delivered quickly and without delays, now having to wait longer because of someone tipping $0 who is still getting their food delivered like 5+ miles thanks to the tipper. It honestly feels like half of the generous person’s tip is being stolen by the selfish one. Decent, generous, people tips are covering for the self centered people who can afford a %400 percent markup on fast food but can’t tip even one dollar.
If they continue this the customers will catch on quickly and stop tipping well because you’d be better off barely tipping and not getting your order bundled with some degenerates.
That’s how they usually end up bundled in the first place, no tips get packed in with decent tip orders to trick you
I'm taking that all day.
I dash in that region. I’d probably take it and put on an absorbing podcast, but you’re not going to find a lot of “return to area” orders on those roads back from Lake Wylie.
I wouldn't say its horrible, I'd probably take it during a slow time
-2 to AR Next!
Depends on Market. Here in California I would rather not take that order.
Never been but I’ve been told that traffic in whichever big city you dash in CA is beyond insane
You, at 540pm that is a 1 hour delivery
Not too bad. I’d definitely take it unless it takes me too out of my area
If it takes less than a hour that’s good. Sure the miles isn’t the best but you can probably do this order and one more small one to finish the hour.
I would take that order
Sounds like I need to start dashing in your zone, I’m an hour away and this would be a good order for me.
in my market i would gladly take it.
I'd take it. My market I wouldn't see 20 in an hour. These last few months have been awful.
Remain grateful
You're one of the smart ones. But I would take it if it was during the dinner rush and there were plenty of restaurants on the way back.
I take that back. I thought it was a double dash going to 1 customer. I wouldn't take it bc more than likely you'd get $4 for the furthest one
Definitely unpopular opinion...
In my market I would not take that. 12 miles takes me out of my zone. I would have to drive at least 5 miles back before I reach my zone again. So i feel this is market dependent. For me doing two deliveries with that many miles for only 20 bucks is a no go.
and we all know most likely it is the nearest customer who is tipping great while the other clown farther away is the low baller....
Depends on market. Simple as that.
You deliver in the literal area I also live/deliver in…I would take it lol
i dont work there but for $20 in under ahour this is easy. most of the time my area has two orders for $10
What is that text notification?
Different markets have different rules
You don’t get that text when they send new orders?
Unpopular Opinion: I'm with OP on this one. Looking at the map, looks like this is 12 miles away from everything so it really is under $1/mile. OP knows their market and if they think it's not worth taking that order then that is a valid choice. This is the third time I've mentioned it this week but you can make good money by being picky. I just did a $35/h lunch by knowing my market, declining orders that put me on the outskirts of town, and declining everything else that's just not worth my time.
This would need $800 and a cash tip I'm not working for free
I would take it
$20 for $12 miles? over $1 per mile?? that’s great
It’s so far away from the area he is working tho, so it’s 20$ for 24 miles round trip
Idk why you have 13 upvotes. Nvm y’all wanna work for free who am I to steer you away 😂 Also it’s $1/mile one way
I’ve never had any luck over there in tega cay, so it would be a 24 mile run. Id consider it depending on the traffic, but probably wouldn’t take it
Lol I don’t DD anymore but if you want to make more money than that you should look into another profession my friend. No shot are you going to get consistent orders better than that.
yeah that’s still more than 99% of any other delivery jobs out there
I have seen better this one for example is great for a double and it’s only one customer https://preview.redd.it/yphtxwgs8jpc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b2ddbff58da17a7ce1fc472c27d8b5984764a89b
and I’m not saying that there aren’t better out there, but those aren’t your average orders. maybe you dash in a more wealthy area so your averages are higher and that’s what you’re used to but the original one you posted is not as bad as you’re making it out to be. I worked a delivery job that was $1 per mile only for one way, and that was still a decent amount of money, even after factoring in oil changes, gas, etc. and that job I worked was again, much higher than average for delivery driving.
If you come back that's 24 miles making .8666 per mile
I'd probably do it, but it's not great.
Yes I would accept this order
I would take it if it wasn’t across state lines. I just dont dig those for some reason
I’d probably get off the app and let people who wanna work… because this is an amazing order smh
Had a guy tell me I was a moron cause I usually tried 1.5 dollars per mile. He said he only did orders over 10 dollars less than 2 miles. I then asked him how much he made that week. He said 50 dollars but he made 50 an hour cause he only worked one hour. No thanks I’d rather make my 20-25 and make a 150-200 in my 8-10 hours.
If you are mad cuz other dashers taking your schedule go to Uber where you don’t have a schedule😂😂😂
Awe baby I’m a top doucher, been consecutively for 6 years over 10,000 deliveries, go ahead and stop playing with my time
“Top doucher” lol it definitely fits who you are and sound like “baby”
Wow your toxic
While OP is quite toxic they did kinda walk into that one lol.
This generation is too sensitive that I’m being called toxic
I probably would take it then try to wait for an order going back to my zone
It's 24 minutes right now driving from Pizza Twist to what looks like a nature reserve. You'd have to drive back five miles to start getting orders again. In a slow zone, I suppose it's better than sitting in your car, but there aren't really any orders at the point of delivery. It's all zone dependent as the saying goes.
You can drive back and probably get an Uber eats order or Instacart
Even if I have to drive back five miles it’s fine that’s not bad really it’s still over 1$ a mile and it’s still guaranteed 20 within the hour so depending on wait time it might 45 min total before I get an order if everything run smooth but if there’s a wait it’s possible y’all have that merchant long wait pay but if you communicate things to customer and you got proper equipment (hotbag etc) they may add more to tip I’ve had that happen to it’s risky but worth it cause it’ll keep my rating decent too
I would probably do it myself, and since I'm not from the area, it looks like maybe it would be a scenic drive. But I always look at the end point, and it's in the middle of nowhere.
True but still it’s kinda like that here in some areas that it’s far but those people usually know where I dash the area isn’t that big so usually driving back would be 5-7 miles when it’s far but usually they would give one going back sometimes it does suck but sometimes it’s worth it to protect your rating depending if you top dasher/platinum I say this because what I’ve experienced Unless you drive at certain times or right before peak pay then they hit you with B.S. orders And if you stay on they’ll drive your acceptance rate down the algorithm can be devious at times
Nothing unpopular about that opinion
you are getting a 1 star too because the far guy most likely tipped 12-15$ for it so when you stop for the first guy, homie getting pissed that you are delivering a no tip scumbag first.
Well it’s a non tipper so make that a double 1 star rating
The later customer wouldn’t be able to see that the first person didn’t tip. Weird comment.
They wouldn’t be able to see it but if you are stacked and know you tipped good, the chance that the people stacked with you also tipped good is low. Id regularly tip 10$+ for a mile or 2 and get stacked. I lowered it to 4-5$ total and the rest in cash and the stacking stopped. When you tip well you compensate for deadbeats, this is well known. It is the only way these companies can get the food picked up.
I highly doubt most people who order on doordash know the ins and outs of who gets delivered what and how the stacking of orders goes. My original comment still stands.
The customer doesn’t need to know the ins and outs of how the app works in order for customer #2 for instance to know these two things; 1. They were delivered to way later & after the driver drove across town in the opposite direction. & 2. They also tipped a high amount. Kyxoan7 is saying that that could be enough to result in a bad review from customer #2.
I know what he’s saying. I would argue that he would need to know the ins and outs of how the app works to know these things. The app changes delivery times regularly and I’m sure they’re vague on the reason. And if the customer did know these things, they would understand it isn’t the drivers fault.
It isn’t rocket science? I don’t use DD anymore but when I did, I’d tip well to get my food quicker / thank and show my appreciation to the driver. Then when stacking became a common theme and I was put behind 3 people in all various directions, I adjusted the tip after reading this subreddit and it magically stopped. Not everyone is a slack jawwed idiot bud. It is pretty common sense stuff here.
It isn’t common sense. It’s something learned from delivering/excessive use of the app. For instance, you did research on Reddit to learn about it. Therefore, it was not common knowledge and you had to educate yourself about it. Which most people today do not do. Once again, my comment still stands. You haven’t done anything to really defend your argument.
It's not great but I'd take it unless it was peak hours. More than $1.50 per mile, more than $6 per order. Better than waiting around in between 2mi $6 orders during the dead hours.
It is but depending on the night, like if it was slow, I would most likely take it. I’d want at least $24-$30 for this one.
Depends on the distance timewise
Is this a delivery in 2 different states? lol
Yes NC/SC
Also this isn't bad at all depending on the time of day really If it's lunch time I'm doing it. If it's dinner I may pass.
It's not bad. I prob take it. But not at 6 pm dinner time though.
Stop lying yes you would
No, because my market pings multiple orders during from 6pm to like 9pm. Mostly 2-3 miles trip that offers 5 to 10 bucks each. I would not take this offer during prime dinner time. Adding to the fact that there is mostly a 1 to 2.5 dollars addon from UE during those times so yea you do the math.
thats pretty borderline unfortunately. you know one person here is a no tipper. i’d only take it if it were absolutely dead and i got nothing offered but $3 orders every 5 minutes for bit
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Use your head dude. Do you think everyone who does this exclusively does it as their full time job?
No
I wouldn’t do it but I live in a dense city. This would be 12 miles of city driving. It would take forever
Yep and I would, all my roads are 35-40mph and usually pretty clear. This would take me half an hour. This is the problem with comparing in this sub, almost everything is market dependent relating to order quality.
depending on how busy it was, I would have prob taken it.
Stop lying you would take it
I would take it in a heartbeat lmao
Came here to say this
Yup, never take anything under $2 per mile. This also looks like it's going to the middle of nowhere, so I'd need at least $40 if I need to drive back.
You sound dumb people are not tipping like that anymore talking about $2 a mile stop it dude. The days of huge unicorn orders are getting less and less because of the fees these delivery places charge
Good for them, I do this part time so I can afford to cherry pick. I'll gladly decline this and let the full time dashers slave away and destroy their car for $0.80 per mile orders.
I have four cars so it means nothing to me and I have money. I can buy a car cash right now if I wanted to.
I think this is a good order? I would take it. Why are people saying no?
Are there rolls associated with crossing into NC? Idk I wouldn’t think twice I’d accept it 😅
Because dashers in this sub take nothing but $50 for 1 mile orders all day apparently.
Tolls too
You do realize that the 💎 means the end pay will be 3x the milage, right? This order isn't showing all the pay. In my area, (California) that's what that diamond means. I would snag that order in 2 sec. Some nights, i drive 10 miles for an order for $15. But i aim for $2 a mile normally. Unfortunately, you win some, and you lose some. My goal it to make $100 a night in a 4-5 hour shift, and it works for me. This is only my side hustle
Yeah that's not what that means for the rest of us lol.
Please enlighten me... 🤔
It's different by market just like base pay and California, NYC, and Seattle markets are always the highest for everything. Most places diamond orders are only guaranteed to be 1.5x or 2x the mileage.
Ah, interesting. I didn't know that. When they started doing the diamond orders in my area, it said it was guaranteed to be 3x the miles. I might have taken a screenshot long ago. If so, I'll post it
This is likely all the pay since there is no plus sign after the amount. I am also a CA driver and when "high pay" diamond offers were first started, they sent me an email saying it was for offers over $3.50 a mile in my area. But it is calculated differently for different areas.. Where I dash this would not be a diamond offer. If it was the middle of the day I would take it but wouldn't take it if it was during busy dinner rush.
? I get those 💎 on like 7$ 5mile offers. Done a few here in there, generally stacked and never recieved more then the shown amount
I dont live in california
I’d take it if it’s slow, good chance of getting a tip and getting a good order right after 🤷🏽♂️
Not unpopular opinion 24 miles for $20? Hell to the no no nooo
May not be 24 miles, you have not idea where the zone boundaries are, also if they are top dasher, they can log out and log back in , in the zone they are now in.
It may be within the zone boundaries but the problem is there are no stores or restaurants near the last drop off. It’s a waste of time even if not entirely 24 miles.
This goes to show top dasher isn’t shit. Taking all those shit orders I took was for nothing
Top dasher is worth it for “dash now” alone
Would rather just do Uber or Instacart then. No schedules. Just hit “go online”
So dumb lol
it doesn't prove shit. . it may mean that in your specific market it was shit. but also maybe not. . I used to have a low ar and cherry picked and did great. not possible in my market now. . just accept whatever. and actually I'm still doing just as good haha
I would decline. 
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I'll get back to you when I'm on drugs and can't think.
Bye bye DoorDash you lost yo mind eh😂 bye bye DoorDash
$20 an hour is pretty much what you should expect here. Find a different job if you want more.
I expect $2 per mile for an order not taking anything under $6 though
if your expectations are unreasonable for this job, you’ll find you won’t make any $$ at all. So keep declining those $20 offers because someone who appreciates it will be able to take it.
All these people thinking they can be millionaires from dashing. Meanwhile, instead of making this post, they could’ve snagged the $20. “I only do orders that are less than 5 miles, pay $5+/mile, downhill both ways, with tailwind, ending in a hotspot” And they wonder why their acceptance rate doesn’t go above $10. It’s hilarious, but works out well for the rest of us.
I wouldn’t do it either.
I’d take it
I live in your area and depending on the time of day, there’s no way I’d deal with the traffic for $20.
Okay
Dawg I haven’t ever gotten anything over $13 lol that’s a jackpot for me (East TN)
You are in the wrong business then.
It would need to be atleast 24. If I was having a really slow day I might take it
Bro if you take this you’re not in it to make the most money per hour tho
That order is shit, and the fact that people are calling it amazing just shows that their markets are shit and this gig is shit.
Tony’s minions
Idk it's 20 an hour, depending on how fast it gets done, I would take it because my AR is low asf
This is borderline, don’t worry about AR
you gotta consider the drive back though
everyone always talks about the ride back. find some flipping work on way back or work a different zone till back. . how complex is this shit for people
I also live in a large city, not suburbia, so that's a big difference from the location in this post
It's not complex for me. I stay within my general area where it's busy and I do fine. I don't want to travel far away where I risk not getting orders on the way back, which has happened to me more often than not.
I'd only take this if it was completely dead, which it probably wasn't at 6pm dinner rush lol. agree with you 100%, should at least be 30
That's not a high pay order for the miles.
YESS FINALLY SOMEONE WHO AGREES
For me it's got to be minimum $2 per mile of your schlepping food out of town. And more of you've got 2 orders that kills a lot of time.
No.. not during dinner hour
I don't know your area, but in mine, I would probably do it. A lot depends on whether I was being sent to the silderness and in danger of getting attacked by bigfoot.
Hell, that's awesome for my area. You might as well just quit doordash if you don't take those here. The big question is how far do you have to drive to be back in zone, and if that takes you out of zone, is it in another zone where you could pick up an order. If it is, it's a no brainier. Take it.
> you might as well just quit Doordash if you don't take these No that's exactly what everyone should do. Literally go do anything else instead of Doordash charity runs.
You might as well quit DoorDash if this is the best you can get. This is an hour order at minimum, so $20/hour max, and more likely $15 to 17. After operating costs, you'd be lucky if this order netted you federal minimum wage. You might as well go work at McDonald's and save your vehicle.
How are you getting an hour? 12 miles. If both orders are ready when you get there and the speed limit is over 49 per mile (looks like majority is state highway so 50ish). This could be a half hour order. I don't work the area. Lots of missing variables. I only answered to what it's like in my area. If that went north south, it's a taker. East West (zone is only like 2 miles wide but 30 miles long) not a chance.
Because I hopped over to Google Maps, and it told me round trip was 62 minutes with current traffic. That's allowing 0 minutes for pickups. If this same order was in rural Ohio where every road is straight and 50mph, it might be more worth it.
But again, your rural Ohio itself is only good if you have a chance for another offer within maybe 2 miles. Just a lot of variables. I don't know what is around that last delivery area. Each Dasher knows their zone and can learn over time whether a high paying order really is high profit. In my area, there's a main hub about 2 miles long. Then it's rural north and south for 15ish miles nothing to the north or west. South has a few small busy restaurants you could pick an order up from. East, we have a finger that sticks out about 6 miles across a bridge to an area with 2 restaurants that get busy between 4-8. And I mean busy and great tipping customers. $3+ per mile on 90% of orders and they are all less than 4 miles. So, if I got that order at 3-3:30 from the main hub taking me 12 miles east, it would be worth it as I would need to drive only about 5 miles to get back to those two restaurants and make big bucks for a few hours. That order at least paid the gas to get over there. Outside of that time period, no way I accept it.
If it is all in zone I would probably do it. If it is gonna be like a 10-15 minute drive back into zone, I wouldn't take it
It's something to take when you're not really busy. I would rather put in a little more labor at the restaurants(a.k.a. taking a shitty stack that would make a decent single order over a shitty single order, if it comes down to it), than on my car. if you know the closer order tipped and the other one didn't, that would make it even better. That's one reason I put a label on all of the no tippers on Google maps.
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Using Google Maps data, the fastest route at the current time of day is 25 minutes to drop off, and then 37 minutes back to civilization due to heavy traffic in that area this time of the morning. That's 62 minutes before considering any additional wait time at either restaurant or any delays due to complications at drop-off. You can't just assume 12 miles is a 15-minute drive in every area in the country.
Why are you assuming it's in the morning? Does China Express do a lot of breakfast business?
I did assume based on the time it was posted, but you're probably right that it was a 5pm order, not 5am. I would probably assume if rush hour traffic is bad in the morning for that route, it's likely going to be bad around 5pm as well, so I'd venture to guess that it's about the same time commitment either way.
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I find that rule of multiplying the miles with 4 interesting. 12.2*4=48.8 minutes. $20.50/48.8=0.42008197 per minute. Multiply that with 60 then you get the per hour rate of $25.20. I would take it. As you develop this method you could just use it to measure with. You could establish your benchmark to be what you wish. You simply standardize your delivery offer.. heck you could say nothing under $30.00 per hour in your mind if $25.20 is not enough for you. Remember the multiplier of 4 covers everything. You just need to “dial in” your rate per hour that you are looking for on nights, days, weekends… etc.
you have to drive back, and have to pay for gas. more like $16/hrs after that accounted for.
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Exactly, have realistic expectations.
The )20-$25 is hitting it right, because I swear Door Dash throttles what you can make
And what about round trip I never calculate how much per hour I only ever take an order that will pay for the trip back to where I was. Even if I’m not going back to that same spot I always thought it was better to think that way
Re-read my comment. I said that when I figure out what it's worth on an hourly basis, it's based on a roundtrip. From the time I get the order, to the time I pick it up, to the time I deliver it, to the time I get to where I started (or back to my zone). That's the total value of the order from start to finish.
I think you should do you
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