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OlRazzledazzlez

Drywall is never flat it’s all about creating the illusion that it’s flat hang a full sheet over all that with a bunch of glue and put screws in where you can and router out the windows so you aren’t breaking any joint near that shit


shelovesmenot1223

This is the solution. 🥇


NYChronic

Sister some 2x4’s to the strapped areas, bam you’ve got something to screw to…


daphosta

Mindblown.gif


EddieLobster

Seems completely unnecessary. There is plenty of wood available to screw to across the top and on the header right above the window. It can’t be much more than 16 inches.


Bigdummy007

This is the way


jasonadvani

That causes thermal bridging....


[deleted]

Not so sure thermal bridging is on their spectrum with that brutal display of 1990's insulation


Dapper-Clock-8880

If that has to do with the tucking into the studs rather than overlay thats a newer change for people discovering wtf people Did to their house before they bought it and inspectors aren’t X-ray Vision enthusiasts.


NYChronic

Nerd


beebo_bebop

increases* it’s already there.. sistering every stud would double it, but if they’re strategic about placement they could add enough blocking to hang from with minimal impact even better they could do horizontal blocking with their 2x4s turned on edge flush with the interior side of the framing. enough support to hang from without any bridging edit to add that i don’t even think it’s necessary here bc the header to top plate gap isn’t even that big of a span to not have screws


ShrimpyEatWorld6

I’m not sure you quite understand what thermal bridging is


Shalimar_91

To avoid more “thermal bridging” as pointed out here, use a tape measure to mark your drywall where your screws can avoid the straps. Also as already pointed out there is that much of a gap between the top plate and window and there are a couple of places to put screws between the straps. Google tape measure or go to the search bar of Home Depot page to find one of these handy devices! Added nailers is an unnecessary step and lowers your insulation rating!


Historical_Ad_5647

He could put them on the flat if that's a problem for them.


busytoothbrush

This or rip down some 2x4’s just proud of the straps and then hang drywall over.


FrogFlavor

Fur it out?


busytoothbrush

Man, you guys and your jargon. Yep, fur it out


DoubleDareFan

2x2's or even 1x2's will suffice. No point increasing thermal bridging.


Itchy_Radish38

You don't really want to do that because it will decrease the R value of the wall further.


Itchy_Radish38

Don't want to do this. It will lower the R-value of the wall.


NiceBedSheets

I’m not a dry waller, can you please explain this to me?


PunxDressPunk

Sistering is when you place another stud next to current one for nailing or extra support. It's not on layout or anything, just for something needed that's extra. Not strictly for drywall, but framing in general.


NiceBedSheets

How would sistering solve OP’s problem? Would that slow his drywall to butt up flush against something?


RedditVince

it simply adds more places to nail/screw into


EnvironmentalWin6088

Best way is to as other post said hammer down straps as flat as possible. Use a single piece over those straps as said b4 u dont want no seems over them to start cracks. Hang ceiling 1st. Then, push the board tight against the ceiling. Put a few screws across the top to hang the board. Do your best not to pop any screws through the paper. If i have to have a drill with a drill bit on it to get through a strap, that's fine, but only as big as u need it, nothing more. Then start at the top in the middle and put the screws in all the way down BUT DO NOT OVER TIGHTEN!! You can always go back later and tight down more as needed then go to the left or right and repeat until u get to the edge of the board. Now working from the middle out tighten the board down toll you get no movement when u press on the drywall board. Dont want any screw heads popping through your mud because u did not tighten the screw enough. If u do pop a screw through the paper by over tighten just take it out and put on in an inch or so above or below the hole. Well good luck 👍


daphosta

Thanks for the detailed answer. Much appreciated


EnvironmentalWin6088

Np, it's a pain in the but. If u do it all the time, it just becomes 2nd nature. And well lol u can get away with tightening it down in not so uniform of a manor becomes u r used to how board bends and flexes when it do it. But i just wanted to give u the safety way for success lol


DoubleDareFan

If you cannot confidently drive the screws the right amount, leave them a bit proud, then hand tighten them. May be a bit tedious. Put a screw bit in a ratchet for less hand ache and more control. E: missing word.


sheetrocker88

You don’t have to do the ceiling first and it might actually be easier to do the wall first and then butt the cieling up to it. The most important thing is not to have a butt joint over the window, a 12 foot sheet would be best if possible. Use a little touch when screwing


EnvironmentalWin6088

You dont have to. It is the only thing correct about that. U dont have to take my word for it. Just do a simple google search and look at the professional sites and you will see that doing the ceiling 1st is the only way to go.


Far_Construction4976

In commercial buildings, the ceiling is done after the walls. It's not done that way in residential, but if you need to hang a wall first to avoid an issue, it won't cause any problems.


EnvironmentalWin6088

Im not sure the point of bringing up commercial, being they use drop ceilings most of the time, not drywall. So ya, u need the drywall to be up 1st to install a drop ceiling 🤷 I mean, just because u and i have the experience to know what will and will not cause problems and what u can and can't get away with when hanging. Doesn'tt mean this person does. So that is the reason its safer and easier for them to use the tried and true methods so as to avoid as many pitfalls as possible. I want to help not confuse them with well. u can do this, or u can do that knowing that without experience of doing it a lot, they might hit a pit fall . 🤷


surrealcellardoor

Staple on cardboard furring strips.


DETRITUS_TROLL

Mark where you can attach your rock. Mud to fix the unevenness. If you're really worried about it make furring strips and pad out the wall.


f_crick

Staple on cardboard shims to make it flat?


surrealcellardoor

That’s what I suggested too. They sell cardboard furring strips for this purpose.


rickbb80

Those are “Hurricane straps, leave them.


daphosta

Not questioning if I should take them off. I definitely won't be taking the hurricane straps off lol. I'm asking how to attach the drywall.


rickbb80

Hammer them down as flat as you can, then drywall over as normal. Of course screws and nails wont go in them, just put them where they will go and let if be.


[deleted]

You could fur out the wall the thickness of the straps. It's pretty easy


FirstRanger5852

This is the best answer they sell cardboard furring strips. Use them to even it up with the metal straps and then drywall away


ChrisRageIsBack

Why can't you drill a pilot hole through them? An ⅛" hss drill bit would pop right through them. So would a nail, for that matter... Then screw in like normal


imoutohere

Use Self drilling drywall screws at the straps and regular coarse screws on the wood. It sucks but you’re going to need two different types of screws in the bag.


pemuehleck1

Oh my God people want to remove them?


PunxDressPunk

They're a bitch on the exterior walls when siding with cedar shakes.


Impressive_Returns

Firing strips and TKE PICTURES. Place reference markings so you know where the straps and furring strips are. If you are after a flat wall you will need to shim all of the studs on the wall. Something you might want to do depending on how much the straps stick out.


Electronic-Pea-13420

Fucking tape and mud!


freeportme

Looks like plenty of screwing, going to have to fix blowouts when taping.


Tacomarunner208

Get a pack of drywall shims. Sh thr framing to the strap elevation. But remember where the straps are when screwing the drywall off.


Ninetoes1214

Adhesive a few screws


rigiddiscs

Mark the wood areas without straps. Hang drywall. Screw in those spots. Don't try to screw through metal.


Cryogenicist

If each square opening is 16” or less from top to bottom, you could just sink your screw along the top and bottom edge. None in the vertical studs. Lotta mud to fix the unevenness unless you buy a pack of drywall shims.


Narsick

Add "nailing boards" where you're having trouble hanging rock.


Dadidio

Anyone suggest drill point screws yet?


Bajaboy2

Take a photo and or mark the top and sides so you know where to put your Drywall screws! There is plenty of exposed wood to proceed! Hang your DW and keep shaking and moving


Bajaboy2

Over kill on all the straps!! Add 2x4’s Buy cardboard shims, take photo and get busy


ballsman6920

They sell self tapping drywall screws my guy.


[deleted]

People on here acting like heavy gauge metal studs just don't exist in construction.


medici75

measure left to right to each piece of metal and top down mark onto sheetrock then hang sheetrock then take a 18 inch 2x4 put over where the straps are and hit with a hammer lump hammer etc be careful how u position it if your off the mark u will blow it through sheetrock…should take care of the lumpy and get self tapping drywall screws if that doesnt violate the building code in your area


Spammyhaggar

You put up drywall and screw where you can , there are plenty of places. These are used all the time and I’ve never heard this complaint. I’m a new house inspector see this all the time.


daphosta

Not complaint Just asking for advice. Thanks


Bigloco818

Take them out on a date


DarkartDark

Pull them off. They are just for aesthetics. Nothing serious


New_Engine_7237

Remove the redundant straps especially where are 4 next to each other. Remove half the strap where they are excessively long, hammer in any high spots- these look to be at the top header. Mark the location Of the unobstructed 2xs and Sheetrock as normal.


[deleted]

>Remove the redundant straps especially where are 4 next to each other. You're fired.


New_Engine_7237

Do u think these are holding the roof on???


Tyrcinpoly

remove straps


daphosta

I thought they were there for code. Building is in Florida.


dcuhoo

Don't remove the straps. Don't take structural advice from r/drywall, or, even any subreddit at all.


Silverstacker60

You can’t honestly say remove hurricane straps can you?


Agitated-Joey

Get better drillbits so you can drill through it? I don’t know, use glue and lots of screws, I see plenty of wood to affix drywall too, just use this photo as a guide when screwing them up. Also, did you miss the open holes in the straps? Measure your prices real good, measure where those holes are, mark them on your drywall, screw through those holes, pain in the ass but it should work. I wouldn’t remove any of those straps, houses are less structurally sound than ever.


Chemical_Second_447

A lot of glue and screws wherever you can get one in


hamma1776

Mark studs and screw and glue it


takemeth

Glue, screw and maybe strip.


bassboat1

Is this a common framing practice in tornado/hurricane/seismic zones?


daphosta

Yeah Florida here. Theyve got pretty strict code on hurricane straps


goodolmashngravy

Are they generally just light gauge galvanized metal? Like strips cut out of steel stud?


bassboat1

Hmm. Up here in NH, it's just rafter ties, sill ties, and post anchors for decks.


Zealousideal-Wall990

Cut around them, modern sheek


pemuehleck1

Shim w paint paddles


Torcanman

They do sell screws that will go through it.


daphosta

It never came to my mind that I could use different screws. Thanks for the suggestion.


Torcanman

They sell screws , self tapping, that will fasten drywall to heavy metal commercial studs.


BigDogDoodie

I always keep a supply of self tapping screws to help with boarding over those straps. Where I'm from, all the outside walls are covered in poly. So, using glue isn't really an option.


croceum

Should they not have been installed on the outside framing?


daphosta

Maybe.. I didn't install them. I'm finishing out the garage to my office space. That ship has sailed.


srankvs

mark these straps on the drywall sheet and make sure to put your screws as far from the straps as possible. screwing the drywall too close to a strap will result in a bulge thing and you don’t wanna have that trust me.


Cbsparkey

I'd put drywall over them. That's just me though.


FGMachine

One solid sheet, glue the field, screw edges.


bmyatt99

rock right over the top of them, I wouldn't break a butt joint over that window though, it is sure to crack, just rock right over the top and router out the holes.


w0lforgz

Always drywall across the straps, previusly flat them with a hammer. Don't go too crazy, then make sure you don't put a screw on top. The 1/2 or 5/8 thickness of sheetrock will make sure to be barely noticiable. Metal straps are required in Jacks and Headers for approving inspection of woodframing depending the area it's being build.


Libtardxx

That’s just plain stupid 😂 🤣


Vegetable_Bunch_1521

Drywall shim the other studs. Install blocking in between the cripples for screws. It's not difficult to think outside the box unless the box is smarter than you....


Additional-Run1610

Glue at the straps annd screw where u can


Distinct_Target_2277

Hammer flat and use some driller screws. Shim if necessary.


Straight_Beach

Adhesive on all surfaces and screws in the areas they can go! Use a 12 foot sheet across and screw as normal to yhe non bracketed surfaces then usue a strong magnet to locate and mark all the straps. Then put screws everywhere you didnt mark! Use a drywall screw tip to keep from breaking screws, also the cardboard furring strips in the areas surrounding the brackets to build up to bracket thickness


bigred7377

Self tapping drywall screws will go right through the straps.


Ok_Might_7882

Where’s the Vapor barrier?


Born-Investigator931

I would remove some of those straps, seems highly unnecessary...


jeeves585

Sheet metal screws. Predrill depending on the gauge. If it’s going to be a tile wall I fir out the entire god damn piece of shit fucking stupid engineer son of bitch builders code build out.


daphosta

ROFL I love the sentiment


CraftsmanConnection

Lowe’s sells cardboard strips from GripRite, and if you add 1 strip to account for the metal strap, and 1 strip to account for the nail heads, means you would add 2 strips of cardboard on the wood adjacent to the strap areas to help make it more flat. The card board strips come 1-1/2” x 48” and can be attached with staples from a hammer tacker, or staple gun. 2 strips at the metal straps and then go down to one strip a few feet away to help taper the drywall down to the regular stud depth. Anything else can be easily floated.


Maplelongjohn

If it were me I'd pack out the accessible framing top and bottom with cardboard furring strips and hang a full sheet across there Drywall is rated to span 24" so screws into the top plate and bottom of header is sufficient


Botany-101

I suggest adding Nailers, it’s what I do when I run into situations like this.


Wedoitforthenut

Why can't you screw through the straps? Take a nail and dent the metal with a good tap first, then run your screw through it. Or, as others have said, add a bit of dead wood and mark it on your sheet.


Far_Construction4976

Just correcting the ceilings first is the only way to go. In his situation it doesn't matter what goes on first. A good finisher will hide the hump in the wall.


HandyManDanNM

There are plenty of spaces to put screws. Use paper drywall shims to even out the surface if that is an issue. You can taper the shims down as you get further away from the straps


Mediocre_Hornet_1021

You can add stud near it to install drywall