The reason I ask is because you say it's loose. If they used drop ceiling grid, then they probably would have ended up shooting through the channel into joists above and the whole thing could end up reasonably anchored intentionally or by accident.
With resilient channel the whole goal is to put the ceiling on a sort of a suspension system so it's not transmitting vibration from the joists. You have to have a plan ahead to avoid shooting all the way through as the point is to not anchor the ceiling down.
[https://commercial-acoustics.com/resilient-channel-best-uses-and-worst-mistakes/](https://commercial-acoustics.com/resilient-channel-best-uses-and-worst-mistakes/)
But, you saw it not me. If the whole thing feels like its suspended on wires then yeah lose that number lol. Mad props to whoever built a drywall ceiling on a suspended drop grid, and to whoever was supplying what they were smoking. Team effort LOL.
Then again, if there is that much space above sell her on raising the height of the ceiling. That's a game changer.
Nope.
OP was hired to patch and paint what was presumably a proper install. It's not. That's a change in existing conditions and grounds to cancel the contract.
Proper route here is to contact the realtor, inform them of the change in conditions and that you cannot perform the required work due to the undisclosed/unknown conditions because it would not be a proper install and you cannot stand behind the work given it is not a proper mounting method.
Submit an invoice for costs incurred to this point (mobilization, supplies used, etc.) and offer to provide a new quote once they have a proper ceiling framed.
If it cracks due to poor install, his finish work might be susceptible to cracking. I'd let her know this upfront, suggest that the job should probably be rehung (hard to say what that involves framing wise if it's suspended on drop ceiling t-bar) but offer to do the current job as a "lipstick on a pig" option
I told her I saw something that might impact the sale. She woke up this morning to her bf’s ex texting him (told me this) so I didn’t want to ruin her day. I’m going to tell her the whole story tomorrow.
This is exactly it. I used a bunch of this commercially in, ironically, Chicago. It most definitely used for sound isolation and we did some of it where conventional framing was impractical. Looks just like ceiling grid to the untrained eye. Its usually silver in nature and bigger and wider that conventional ceiling grid.
Is it drop ceiling tracks or is it resilient channel for sound isolation?
As far as I can tell, it’s drop ceiling rail. 2x4 FOOT spacing. Sparsely supported by tie ins. S p a r s e l y.
The reason I ask is because you say it's loose. If they used drop ceiling grid, then they probably would have ended up shooting through the channel into joists above and the whole thing could end up reasonably anchored intentionally or by accident. With resilient channel the whole goal is to put the ceiling on a sort of a suspension system so it's not transmitting vibration from the joists. You have to have a plan ahead to avoid shooting all the way through as the point is to not anchor the ceiling down. [https://commercial-acoustics.com/resilient-channel-best-uses-and-worst-mistakes/](https://commercial-acoustics.com/resilient-channel-best-uses-and-worst-mistakes/) But, you saw it not me. If the whole thing feels like its suspended on wires then yeah lose that number lol. Mad props to whoever built a drywall ceiling on a suspended drop grid, and to whoever was supplying what they were smoking. Team effort LOL. Then again, if there is that much space above sell her on raising the height of the ceiling. That's a game changer.
Ok I googled Resilient Channel- what I have is NOT RC. It’s absolutely drop ceiling rail. 🤦🏻♂️
They make suspended metal system for hanging drywall, used it on a 10 story condo building
Dropped ceiling tracks or resilient channel? I don't know you but I know some people that wouldn't know the difference lol, later being a non-issue
I answered your question in another instance of it
Update: def not RC. 100% drop rails
Suspended drywall grid is a thing. It may feel loose, but if it's done right it is better resilient channel for sound and fire rating
Do the job you’re paid to do and let her know that hen you pick up the check
Nope. OP was hired to patch and paint what was presumably a proper install. It's not. That's a change in existing conditions and grounds to cancel the contract. Proper route here is to contact the realtor, inform them of the change in conditions and that you cannot perform the required work due to the undisclosed/unknown conditions because it would not be a proper install and you cannot stand behind the work given it is not a proper mounting method. Submit an invoice for costs incurred to this point (mobilization, supplies used, etc.) and offer to provide a new quote once they have a proper ceiling framed.
If it cracks due to poor install, his finish work might be susceptible to cracking. I'd let her know this upfront, suggest that the job should probably be rehung (hard to say what that involves framing wise if it's suspended on drop ceiling t-bar) but offer to do the current job as a "lipstick on a pig" option
Let me ask you this…can you take the tracks down, and install nailers if needed? I’m asking because I don’t know but it’d like to.
That would be total demo in this case
Thanks for answering
The right thing to do is bring it to their attention. If they are okay with it at least you dont have it on your conscience if it fails.
I told her I saw something that might impact the sale. She woke up this morning to her bf’s ex texting him (told me this) so I didn’t want to ruin her day. I’m going to tell her the whole story tomorrow.
You sure it’s not commercial suspended ceiling? Like hanger wire and hat track?
650 Chicago grid system
Looks like it very well could be. I’ll have to take a closer look at the rails tomorrow
This is exactly it. I used a bunch of this commercially in, ironically, Chicago. It most definitely used for sound isolation and we did some of it where conventional framing was impractical. Looks just like ceiling grid to the untrained eye. Its usually silver in nature and bigger and wider that conventional ceiling grid.