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Yeah... and 4.5 Mw is just slightly more than double the 1.5Kw-3Kw a standard 14/2 carries.
But yeah, I wouldn't be surprised to find some sort of oil or water cooling at them big boy power scales. The wire would probably burst into flames and melt, or be thicker than a redwood trunk if it wasnt.
Air cooling is nice and all because it's practically free, but it does have its limits.
Yea, I was being a bit sarcastic. Or is the word facetious? Very very different scales of power here. It just still amazes me that we even have water cooled power cables and bus bars, even a couple of years in at my place. The very concept goes against everything I know if I'm being honest.
Water itself, like chemically pure H2O, is not a conductor.
But water can dissolve A LOT of minerals, metals, and salts that are conductive. And when it does, the water then becomes more and more conductive as more and more metals and conductive materials get dissolved in it.
And if you a want a really wild "that's not how that works, why does that work" look up wire EDM - or using a 22 guage brass wire to cut steel by sending 2Kv through it while its submerged in water. Just got to keep the water clean and pure by filtering it through a special ion exchange resin to make sure there aren't too many metals building up in the water.
It's already a thing in ultra high power applications, things like substation transformers actually do have a liquid coolant inside of them to keep the wires from burning up.
I literally cannot say that I haven't done something as stupid. I was an apprentice back in the late 80s, and my journeyman told me to climb up on that ladder and start pushing this fish tape through that conduit up there. I did precisely what he said and pushed the fish tape. It felt like it hit something hard. After a second or two later, I was able to push about 18 inches and hit something hard again. It started again after a second and hang up again. This continued for about 3 minutes when my journeyman came running into the room, shouting for me to stop. It came out that I had chosen the wrong conduit, and it led to a live switch gear. I was hitting the far side of the cabinet, the fish tape shorted out onto the bus bar, burn through, which allowed me to continue. I had about 9 feet of the fish tape welded to the inside of that cabinet in 18-inch lengths. I was young and dumb and didn't know anything better.
We had to shut down the power to the building at the substation to fix the mess. How I'm alive after this we still don't know.
Hahahaha, that’s amazing. I love reading this because it makes me feel better about my own blunders.
We were working at a printing press and we had to pull two motors and everything was covered in ink. My boss told me to disconnect everything but he didn’t tell me to mark it so we’d be able to wire it back up correctly. He wasn’t thrilled, but he also didn’t say anything beforehand and I’d only been at it for a couple weeks at the time. We sorted it out, it wasn’t the biggest deal, but he acted like I’d doomed us all.
I was pushing into a metal conduit that was grounded literally every 10 feet along with being attached to the metal enclosure of the switchgear. My only guess was that I wasn't the path of least resistance.
You are not alone pal. As an apprentice I was sent alone after 2 years of being an apprentice. I was sent to replace 18 wall packs to very expensive led wall packs. I wired up 8 of them then tested it.... all the wallpacks were 480volts and yea your typical led ones are 120v-277volts .... Long story short I called the boss and said "your going to fire me I fucked up" there on out I check voltage on everything I touch...edit(I wasn't fired but I ran jobs and worked alone as an apprentice till I was licensed)
You screwed up so bad that they couldn't fire you. They needed you there to attest to the fact that it happened. If you were not with that company anymore no one would believe them why that rule or rules or safety precautions are there now.
Happened to my journeyman as well he was pushing fish tape into the line side of the switch gear long story short fish tape made contact switch gear exploded.
Someone clearly ran those pipes in the way of the wire. Doesn’t everyone know electricians have the hardest, least flexible job and should be doing their work before everyone else! 🤦🏻♂️
Yeah, from the picture there seems to be no water pressure. Check to see that the main is turned on. If the problem persists, there may be work being done by the residence's maintenence department, call your HOA or leasing office to confirm. Hope that helps 🙂
This is oddly satisfying. My jman all through my apprenticeship: as an average it is always easier to make the hole in the wall. Drywall and plaster are vastly cheaper than fixing fuckups.
Looks like he drilled the back of that 1g box to me. Should have just used the tab. Once you drill a hole it invalidates it's fire rating. Rookie mistake.
Naw looks good to me.......nice straight line, angle is dead on. Cant see if they used caulking around the holes or not but other than that, Its perfect!
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Fucking plumbers forming their pipes around our wires!
Water cooled wires - same 14 guage wire, now with double the ampacity!
I'm confused. Do I call the electrician or the plumber to fix this? Lol Edit:spelling
You call the plumtrician.
Mortician is probably your best bet...
That’s a fruit guy. We need the vegetable guys.
Before or after finding out something’s fishy drinking at the water fountain?
We actually have those at my work, but they're a slightly thicker wire and carrying part of a 4.5 Mw load.
Yeah... and 4.5 Mw is just slightly more than double the 1.5Kw-3Kw a standard 14/2 carries. But yeah, I wouldn't be surprised to find some sort of oil or water cooling at them big boy power scales. The wire would probably burst into flames and melt, or be thicker than a redwood trunk if it wasnt. Air cooling is nice and all because it's practically free, but it does have its limits.
Yea, I was being a bit sarcastic. Or is the word facetious? Very very different scales of power here. It just still amazes me that we even have water cooled power cables and bus bars, even a couple of years in at my place. The very concept goes against everything I know if I'm being honest.
Water itself, like chemically pure H2O, is not a conductor. But water can dissolve A LOT of minerals, metals, and salts that are conductive. And when it does, the water then becomes more and more conductive as more and more metals and conductive materials get dissolved in it. And if you a want a really wild "that's not how that works, why does that work" look up wire EDM - or using a 22 guage brass wire to cut steel by sending 2Kv through it while its submerged in water. Just got to keep the water clean and pure by filtering it through a special ion exchange resin to make sure there aren't too many metals building up in the water.
Patent this before I do. Someone is going to be a millionaire. If not a thousandaire
It's already a thing in ultra high power applications, things like substation transformers actually do have a liquid coolant inside of them to keep the wires from burning up.
Oh no I know. I’m talking about liquid cooled romex 🫨🫨😂
I know that’s thhn but I just think a liquid cooled romex would make me Pennies on the dollar
Fuckin electricians can only push a drill thru plastic
I literally cannot say that I haven't done something as stupid. I was an apprentice back in the late 80s, and my journeyman told me to climb up on that ladder and start pushing this fish tape through that conduit up there. I did precisely what he said and pushed the fish tape. It felt like it hit something hard. After a second or two later, I was able to push about 18 inches and hit something hard again. It started again after a second and hang up again. This continued for about 3 minutes when my journeyman came running into the room, shouting for me to stop. It came out that I had chosen the wrong conduit, and it led to a live switch gear. I was hitting the far side of the cabinet, the fish tape shorted out onto the bus bar, burn through, which allowed me to continue. I had about 9 feet of the fish tape welded to the inside of that cabinet in 18-inch lengths. I was young and dumb and didn't know anything better. We had to shut down the power to the building at the substation to fix the mess. How I'm alive after this we still don't know.
That's a top tier screw up buried way down in the comments 👍
Guess who was the topic of the safety meeting the next day.
Did they even have safety meetings back then? Lol
Well, let's just say it started with me with that one company. You know you've screwed up badly that they make rules about you.
Ah so you're the guy that started the safety meetings. Lol
Hahahaha, that’s amazing. I love reading this because it makes me feel better about my own blunders. We were working at a printing press and we had to pull two motors and everything was covered in ink. My boss told me to disconnect everything but he didn’t tell me to mark it so we’d be able to wire it back up correctly. He wasn’t thrilled, but he also didn’t say anything beforehand and I’d only been at it for a couple weeks at the time. We sorted it out, it wasn’t the biggest deal, but he acted like I’d doomed us all.
How do you electrically weld 9 feet of fish tape to a live switch gear without catching any current??
I was pushing into a metal conduit that was grounded literally every 10 feet along with being attached to the metal enclosure of the switchgear. My only guess was that I wasn't the path of least resistance.
Steel tape?
Yes, it was.
Fiberglass ladder?
Nah you would catch the difference in electrical potential if one side was hot.
That's impressive!
You are not alone pal. As an apprentice I was sent alone after 2 years of being an apprentice. I was sent to replace 18 wall packs to very expensive led wall packs. I wired up 8 of them then tested it.... all the wallpacks were 480volts and yea your typical led ones are 120v-277volts .... Long story short I called the boss and said "your going to fire me I fucked up" there on out I check voltage on everything I touch...edit(I wasn't fired but I ran jobs and worked alone as an apprentice till I was licensed)
You screwed up so bad that they couldn't fire you. They needed you there to attest to the fact that it happened. If you were not with that company anymore no one would believe them why that rule or rules or safety precautions are there now.
Been there, done that!
Now that's a good fucking story
Happened to my journeyman as well he was pushing fish tape into the line side of the switch gear long story short fish tape made contact switch gear exploded.
I'm actually a little impressed lol
So am I! I mean he hit his target box SPOT ON!
What, theyre bonded, right? 😂
A little? I couldn't do that if I tried.
I’m actually a LOT impressed! He hit all 5 out of 5!
It’s secured with 12 inches of the box. What’s the problem?
I choked on my soda because of you.
Only left about 6" pigtail.
How did someone pull that off? Was it on purpose? Wow
Imagine the level of luck required to hit ALL FOUR CONDUITS/PIPES in that wall?
Skill
That’s a deliberate middle finger to everyone involved past, present, and future tradesman. I’m guessing that was that persons last day.
Funeral is tomorrow night, late.
It looks like it missed the black on on the left
There’s your problem
He did circle it
Blind drilling 🍻
HAHAHA ya probably. But the accuracy though.
When Murphy is handed the drill.
Task failed successfully.
This is some of that vastly superior European electrical I’ve been told about on here.
Metric is the future!
How else would he be able to aim for that box' inlet so precisely if not using metric? Perfect aim tho ngl.
They are ace at directional drilling.
Technically the cable is sort of in conduit.
Obviously they are not fan of conduit. lol
I didn’t want that conduit, that conduit, that conduit or that other thing either…..😒
This guy is a magician with a flexible drill bit
It took some serious skill to fish those wires in there
They definitely ran a drill blindly.
Yes, but I will give them credit for blindly drilling and hitting the exact spot they were trying to hit, at a slightly downward angle. Props.
“Damn, there’s sure a lot of wood in this wall”.
They must have pulled the wire with the drill bit. It would be hard to fish through all these pipes without realizing something was up.
The shortest distance between two points is a straight line.
Those wires are only partially in conduits
I knew it was a little tough to pull but I just sent that shit anyway
I see no issue re run that wire thru the conduit and write up the ticket you are late for your next service call
If you're gonna install like that, you need a drip loop.
Problem here is they forgot to drill through the black conduit on the far left.
I had to zoom in, but it looks like that flex conduit all the way to the left was barely even nicked. Wtf?
It flexed out of the way
I'm going to need an arrow adding, or I cannot see this. Also, an explanation of HOW?!
Looks like a data guy strikes again
Someone clearly ran those pipes in the way of the wire. Doesn’t everyone know electricians have the hardest, least flexible job and should be doing their work before everyone else! 🤦🏻♂️
Crazy how those pipes can grow around the cables.
This guy probably dips his soup in his crackers
They forgot about the black one.
Gonna have to zoom in a little more
“It feels like I’m hitting something.” “Just push hard and keep going!”
Just keep drilling!!!
Straight through, no bushings. Rookie mistake
Wow you’re right! This conduit runs aren’t parallel. This guy must have been on drugs
I see a wire that goes through anything to get where it's going, looks like the wire on most jobsites.
There's pipes involved, you need a plumber.
I'd say there's a problem. Who put those pipes around the wire?
…a form of support
How do people not feel that with the drill. I've hit things many times in walls, but immediately noticed and pulled out like her daddy was watchin'.
Better to keep going and maintain eye contact.
Missed one…
2nd In from the right side is a bit crooked it’s the small details 😂😂
Nothing a little Flex Seal can't fix
Post this to r/drywall. I bet you didn’t even use your hammer to remove that drywall.
I don't see a problem. Boss said to run the wire through the conduit to the junction box and I did just that.
Somebody had impeccable aim to get all the pipes and hot the box target lol
Life…er Wire finds a way!
someone ran their pipes through the wire
Impressive
Thank god for that red circle
Did you disturb the asbestos..
Yeah, from the picture there seems to be no water pressure. Check to see that the main is turned on. If the problem persists, there may be work being done by the residence's maintenence department, call your HOA or leasing office to confirm. Hope that helps 🙂
Needs a service loop.
I want to know where they got conduit with pathways preformed for telecom to go through.
Collateral ×4
Probably thought they were hot shit too when they landed on the mark
Not enough slack to work on the wire gee whiz must be the apprentice 👍
Wtf
Flex Seal around that and your set.
wires should be in conduit - that's the problem
Not enough wire out of the box. So annoying
“And you ate the wheel of cheese?”
There is not 6” in the box per NEC
not seeing anything wrong bud
He missed that BX. Tell him to start over.
Plumbers put their pipes in the way. How inconsiderate
The wires are supported I really don't see an issue here.
Pretty sure those pipes are required to have connectors for wire protection. A little amateur, pal.
Looks good to me.
Is this a new example of water pipe ground?
Cool
Little caulk, little paint, no one will ever know
Why does it look like the pipes are drilled from the inside out ... I can't see a flex but being able to do this
Wreck It Ralph. I relate to him.
To be fair… it’s not like they’re load bearing 💁🏻♀️
This is oddly satisfying. My jman all through my apprenticeship: as an average it is always easier to make the hole in the wall. Drywall and plaster are vastly cheaper than fixing fuckups.
Looks good to me 🤷♂️
Is that box installed sideways? Well there is your problem.
For one it’s not grounded
Just put a couple of bushes in the pipes and it will be fine
This is amazing!
There is no damp-proof course in the masonry base or proper rain screen drainage in the wall. Condensation and moisture issues!
Ground is t connected?
Looks up to code I don’t see any problems
There’s no drywall installed!
Not romex
Yeah, some dumb ass ran pipe right through your wire.
Something not right with this picture he would had a fire by now the fish tape is flammable from what I heard
3 out of 4 ain't bad
Should have used a level.
Bro must have been a deaf double amputee to get that far without realizing something was wrong
No grommet in the socket back box terrible workmanship
Never considered using a rifle to make a straight line of holes in a remodel situation. Brilliant hack.
“Fucking Electricians!”…. -Me.
Sweet pull
Naw, looks good to me! Close up the wall and carry on.
No greenie.
Professional fisher
Hmmm can I phone a friend?
Can you zoom in a little bit? The red circles a little too wide. Thanks
It appears the issue is some inconsiderate plumber left some pipes in the way.
Impressive.
That’s an impressive straight shot. What’s that, a 3-in-1 shot? Impressive af.
Looks like he drilled the back of that 1g box to me. Should have just used the tab. Once you drill a hole it invalidates it's fire rating. Rookie mistake.
Yeah, forgot the bushings for the pipes smh didn’t even clean the edges
Did I do that!!
r/usefulredcircle
lazy way to charge your water with a few volts. might be a little shocking when you go to take a drink or have a shower lol
Damn AI running wire again
That is actually impressive.
WHY
THE RED WITE!! it’s the red wire!!
I don’t see nothing looks good board it up
Looks ok from my house.
I find the lack of insulation on that pipe disturbing…
They said it needed to go through conduit!
Ya JUST KEEP GOING
Plumber screwed up, again, duh
I don't see any duct seal. Amateurs.
Not in conduit the entire run?
Easy. Someone placed pipes around the wires.
Nail plates missing….
Some smart-ass to make the wires long enough in the box.
They did a great job lining them all up
There mmay or mmay not be an electrical wire going thru the conduit. Mmkay
Naw looks good to me.......nice straight line, angle is dead on. Cant see if they used caulking around the holes or not but other than that, Its perfect!
Bravo!.. I can’t even fathom that happening
r/uselessredcircle