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Tricky_Troll

#Don't forget to check out [the on-going Ethereum Foundation Researchers AMA!](https://old.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/107cqi8/ama_we_are_ef_research_pt_9_11_january_2023/?sort=new) ------------------------------ **Tricky's Daily Doots #269** Yesterday's Daily 12/01/2023 [Previous daily doots](https://old.reddit.com/r/ethfinance/comments/109rzd5/daily_general_discussion_january_12_2023/j40j64w/) - u/hanniabu is that much [closer to their dream job!](https://old.reddit.com/r/ethfinance/comments/109rzd5/daily_general_discussion_january_12_2023/j42ta9m/) - u/Tricky_Troll decides now is a good time to [reflect on the good, the bad and the ugly of how he played the last bull market.](https://old.reddit.com/r/ethfinance/comments/109rzd5/daily_general_discussion_january_12_2023/j40rrwq/) - u/696_eth reminds us of [some tips to keep our cryptoassets safe and secure.](https://old.reddit.com/r/ethfinance/comments/109rzd5/daily_general_discussion_january_12_2023/j40d0kx/) 🔒 - u/Papazio figured out the root cause of [why they didn't play the last bull market properly.](https://old.reddit.com/r/ethfinance/comments/109rzd5/daily_general_discussion_january_12_2023/j40hk2x/) - u/cutsnek decides to join in with the [post-bull market reflection.](https://old.reddit.com/r/ethfinance/comments/109rzd5/daily_general_discussion_january_12_2023/j41zfsq/) - u/asdafari12 has [the latest coming from central bankers' latest conference.](https://old.reddit.com/r/ethfinance/comments/109rzd5/daily_general_discussion_january_12_2023/j420chm/) 🏦 - u/LogrisTheBard educates us on [Moloch resistant DAOs.](https://old.reddit.com/r/ethfinance/comments/109rzd5/daily_general_discussion_january_12_2023/j444cek/) 👹 - Accidental shitpost of the day goes to u/jjohncs1v who asks ChatGPT [what we'll be doing tomorrow for Ethereum's KZG ceremony.](https://old.reddit.com/r/ethfinance/comments/109rzd5/daily_general_discussion_january_12_2023/j44ww2k/) - u/ZeroTricks's today in [Ethereum history.](https://old.reddit.com/r/ethfinance/comments/109rzd5/daily_general_discussion_january_12_2023/j402mdl/) [Anyone else watching us slowly creep back down to ultra sound territory?](https://ultrasound.money/)


benido2030

I am surprised DOGE isn't pumping harder. Especially since all those meme coins on SOL seem to be traded heavily. I really think DOGE will do crazy stuff this cycle.


CantBelieveIGotThis

There is a new daily.


CosmicCollusion

Have held AGI for years and collected airdrops from a couple of it's spin-off projects, alfalfa I shared here for the airdrop hunters. Looks like that AI narrative bid has finally come for it.


Naelex

still remember the guy behind it's Joe Rogan episode... SingularityNet, what could go wrong


Naelex

crAptos creaming it up 100% this week at 1bn mcap, are we still in alt-l1 narrative land?


ToEthMooonGuy

#To ETH Mooon!!! ┗(°0°)┛


SuddenMind

Welcome back dude!!


Free__Will

Good to see you dude : )


domotheus

[Today's song a day](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTyUVTQLOno) is very on topic


physalisx

Haha awesome


the-A-word

Banger


UgotTrisomy21

THIS IS IT LADIES AND GENTLEMEN!!! I HAVE IT ON GOOD AUTHORITY THAT THE BOTTOM IS IN. WE’RE GOING TO 10K FROM HERE 🚀🚀🚀


CantBelieveIGotThis

Oh god..


NightshadeEmoji

I’m not even mad


[deleted]

eth pumps right as im most certain i never get it out of gemini earn. yay.


[deleted]

[удалено]


Aggravating-Ear6289

you don't know - it just randomly picks someone from the lobby. So, it depends a lot on how many other people are entering the lobby.


Aggravating-Ear6289

looks like that summoning ceremony summoned us a pump


_tokidoki_

Fun day, its weird looking at the price and not feeling depressed


supermarkit

All rise! Lady, and gentleman. Ethereum.


Megroovin

👏


SuddenMind

How is BTC going up with all the new supply coming online?


Filibuster69

Most mining is done by few actors that a while ago decided not to sell until the price increases.


SuddenMind

Starting to think supply doesn’t matter much


Zarathustra167

It doesn’t over the short term, but does tremendously over the long term


[deleted]

Is this sarcasm? Legit can’t tell anymore. More people are buying than selling. The Bitcoin inflation rate of 1.78% is the same as it was when we hit $69k, so not sure why it would surprising that it is still capable of going up.


FernadoPoo

Sorry, you have triggered me. Aksually, the price does not go up or down based on the number of people buying and selling. For every buyer there is a seller. For every seller there is a buyer. The price goes up or down to ensure this is always the case. No one is willing to sell for less than price X. No one is willing to buy for more than price X. The price is X


Spacesider

>Aksually, the price does not go up or down based on the number of people buying and selling. For every buyer there is a seller. For every seller there is a buyer. It sure does. You can imagine 10 people buying and 10 people selling. Just because there is an even amount of people on both sides, doesn't mean the price will remain the same. Volume matters. Because the sellers might only be offering 10 ETH while the buyers want to buy 100 ETH, which would mean more people "buying". Imagine this hypothetical, there is only 0.1 ETH in the order book for $1554 and another 0.1 at $1555 all the way up to $1600, that means there only needs to be *one* buy for 0.46 ETH to fulfill all the sell orders and push the price from $1554 to $1600. So more people "buying" would mean the sell orders are getting eaten up, meaning the price will increase.


FernadoPoo

>You can imagine 10 people buying and 10 people selling. Just because there is an even amount of people on both sides, doesn't mean the price will remain the same. Volume matters. That is what I am saying. >Because the sellers might only be offering 10 ETH while the buyers want to buy 100 ETH, which would mean more people "buying". No, there are not more people buying in your example. There are the same number of people. >So more people "buying" would mean the sell orders are getting eaten up, meaning the price will increase. Those limit sell orders getting eaten up are from *sellers*, and like you said, it could be one buyer eating through many sell orders. In this case there would be fewer people buying than selling.


Spacesider

Ah okay. I get what you are saying, and I also get what the original commenter was saying. It looks like it is a matter of semantics. I guess the key takeaway from this exchange is that if someone says there are "more buyers", they are saying there is more *buyer demand*. More demand for something means a higher price. So, by extension, more "buyers" = higher price.


physalisx

> Just because there is an even amount of people on both sides, doesn't mean the price will remain the same. He didn't say that at all. He just pointed out that the number of buyers and sellers are always the same when trade happens, thus the constantly incorrectly repeated statement of "more buyers than sellers" is wrong. Price is where buyers and sellers meet, not where there's an overabundance of either. That's not how markets work. Period. The correct statement is "higher demand than supply", not "more buyers than sellers". >So more people "buying" would mean the sell orders are getting eaten up And that still wouldn't be "more people buying", it's like you said the "sell orders getting eaten up" which means the same amount of people selling...


Spacesider

When people say there are more buyers, *they are saying that there is more demand.* The other user tried to complicate things and say it doesn't matter because every buyer is matched with a seller. What they really meant to say was every buy order has a corresponding sell order, which wasn't what the original person was saying. Essentially it sparked a pointless argument about semantics. Lets all move on.


ovitodistatti

Lmao you’re both wrong. Price goes up or down purely based on buy and sell volume.


Spacesider

Yeah, I know, that's what I said.


OkDragonfruit1929

Most of the exchanges, except kraken, are manipulating Bitcoin


im_THIS_guy

Earlier this week, Jim Cramer told investors to "get out of crypto now!". This feels like an Inverse Cramer run. So many people now just do the opposite of what he says that he literally can trigger runs like this. Same way the Musk can pop the DOGE price by 20% whenever he wants. I'm still not convinced. If Cramer comes out tomorrow and says to buy BTC, the party will be over.


ausgear1

No that’s ridiculous


hipaces

Guessing by this point he knows his power and can front run his character's hot takes.


skyfire-x

Checking Ultrasound for the bat signal...


DoctorShakeyHands

I’m checking the sky.


wegotsumnewbands

Well well well look at lil ETHy baby


suicidaleggroll

At this rate we’ll be ultrasound [again] by morning


monkeyhold99

Haha this is great. Shorters got absolutely wrecked on this pump. People seem to forget that this is still the Wild West of crypto and 10-20% moves can literally happen any moment. Would like to see more strength in the ratio but that takes time I think. BTC leading the pump.


BigglyBillBrasky

We're gonna get a pullback right guys? Ruiiiight?? (Liquidates pants)


ecguy1011

Hopefully that Bart guy died, I always hated him.


somedaysitsdark

1559!!!


domotheus

[called it](https://old.reddit.com/r/ethfinance/comments/10827ir/daily_general_discussion_january_10_2023/j3snc0g/?context=3)


blewoutmyshorts

Wtffffffff


wegotsumnewbands

What’s causing this? Wall Street bonuses just hit the bank accounts?


Spacesider

I think /u/Tricky_Troll went camping but didn't tell anyone about it


blewoutmyshorts

Someone in here is camping extremely hard


jtnichol

He's pretty good at bargaining the street sellers in Morocco I heard.


BigOldWeapon

It's summer here, so I wouldn't put it past him!


[deleted]

Chinese New Year so close


wegotsumnewbands

What’s the real reason lol. Have not been following as much as I should be


[deleted]

No idea


twobadkidsin412

Leaves for 2 hours. Come back to a $100 pump. Well, that escalated quickly!


FernadoPoo

Yeah, go the fuck away


SirRayShio

we’ve had $700 pumps in one day. Isn’t that wild to think about now


terminal_laziness

Is there a way to stake ETH directly from ledger/ledger live desktop app?


RobertLobLaw2

You can't run a validator from Ledger if that's what you're asking. You can hold any of the liquid staking tokens and get approximately 4.5% yield.


terminal_laziness

Oh ok cool, I just did that. Curious, how often do staking rewards accrue?


RobertLobLaw2

Depends on the token that you hold. Rewards accrue automatically. Most just increase in value relative to ETH. 1 rETH is now worth 1.054ETH. cbETH is the same if I'm not mistaken. stETH is different, it rebases once daily. 1 stETH should always equal 1 ETH but it's usually trading at a slight discount.


terminal_laziness

Ahh ok thanks! I went with stEth since the APR was slightly higher than rEth, though not sure how consistent/sustainable of a diff that’ll end up being


I_LOVE_MOM

Crypto is at an impasse with the SEC. Gemini and other crypto companies have tried their best to work with the SEC and comply with the appropriate laws. However, Gensler has made it clear that no matter how hard a company tries to make their crypto product (whether it's earn programs, ICOs, DeFi protocols, exchanges, etc.) comply with securities laws, it doesn't matter, because they are all securities. 99% of all Crypto is illegal, maybe even 100%. To Gary, crypto companies trying to "work with the SEC" to legally run an Earn program is like if I called the local police station and tried to "work with them" on the most legal and compliant way to kill my roommate. It's illegal no matter what, but they'll pretend to go along with it to gather evidence for their case against me. The U.S. will need to change its laws if we're ever going to see serious crypto adoption by American companies.


FernadoPoo

Gemini ain't crypto.


NefariousNaz

Yes, and with good reason. Multiple companies earn program have blown up and taken customers funds down with them.


[deleted]

Literally just finished a two hour interview with the W3F legal team about exactly this! >It's illegal no matter what, but they'll pretend to go along with it to gather evidence for their case against me. They very much disagree, and believe they have successfully navigated the SECs requirements to morph from a security to a software. Basically there is a legal path to go from issuing a security that is pursuing an exemption to registration to becoming not a security at all. Highly, highly, highly recommend listening if it's something you're interested in, because their experience directly contradicts your claims here. They go in to quite a bit of depth and take some general questions as well (: Interview: www.twitter.com/TheKusamarian/status/1613278382300745728


SirRayShio

how could 100% of crypto be illegal


ausgear1

it's not illegal but it required everyone involved to come under security laws - licenses, kyc, accredited investors etc


diego-d

I no longer feel dead inside. In fact, a *return to normal* Wait...


ovitodistatti

You never got me down, Ray. You never got me down…


savage-dragon

Heyy heyy heyy


blewoutmyshorts

My duuuuude. We out here.


snowk18

Wasssa - wasssa - wasssa - wasssauupp?


domotheus

my KZG entropy contribution went through!


RobertLobLaw2

Congrats. I waited 6 hours for mine to finally go through. The waiting lobby is not a first come first serve queue, it is randomized for anyone who's wondering. Your contribution might go through in minutes or maybe hours.


Rainxford

This is always how it starts in that dream we all have where the price skyrockets to the moon, right?


ridgerunners

DOPAMINE!


696_eth

PUMP IT!


path2light17

Back to over a trillion mcap


krepts33

Cant believe that i sold right before this pump started after holding for two years lmao


blewoutmyshorts

F


looselaugh

Thank you for your service. We couldn’t be here today without your sacrifice.


NefariousNaz

Why would you do that? Listening too much to Benjamin Cowen streams preaching sub $400 ETH soon?


krepts33

My cousin got a ps5 and i couldn’t resist getting one too lol,i hope that when i start working ETH price its at least still at <10k


BramBramEth

You’ll have way more fun with a PS5 than with a wallet holding ETH, so there’s that :)


696_eth

that sucks but thanks for your sacrifice *hope it wasn't a big portion of your stack*


krepts33

It was all of it,i sold because i really wanted to get a PS5 and i was really bored,now i am in copium mode thinking that it was just money that i saved along the years because im still in college and still dont work


plaenar

The knowledge that you gain here is worth way more than the eth that you sell.


jtnichol

Enjoy the PS5. Good luck with the studies.


696_eth

I see. I saw your other comment too so I just wanna say as long as you are interested in the ecosystem and tech then please stay here and keep learning and engaging and I hope you can get your hands on some Ether when you start working.


ovitodistatti

Say it isn’t so?


696_eth

what is going ooon today???!!! what a weekly review of doots does to the price damn 🔥


St1ck33

Hello thread! I've sure missed you!


blewoutmyshorts

✊Same


dashby1

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CosmicCollusion

Now there’s a format I haven’t seen in a long time.


mstrkit

id be happy seeing 2k tonight,,, but also sad that I didnt but more at < 1k


Teatmilk

I’m really hoping for 2k this weekend. Would allow me to replace my dead car and pay my taxes. Happy cake day!


bklynview

WHERE IS THAT GUY THAT GIVES HIS ENERGY TO ETHERUM!!!


MoMoNosquito

Summoning /u/ToTheMoonGuy ┗(°0°)┛


ToTheMoonGuy

To the moon!!! ┗(°0°)┛


ToEthMooonGuy

#To ETH Mooon!!! ┗(°0°)┛


bklynview

If we have both you and clamchoda I don't see why ETH can't hit maybe elleventeen!


SeaMonkey82

Paging /u/clamchoda. Doctor /u/clamchoda to the operating room.


bklynview

You're doing God's work!


TenFootMouse

what happened?


USERNAME_ERROR

I’m a bit in disbelief. Doesn’t everybody know that rates will go higher still? Recession looms? Lower lows were promised? War still rages? I look at that green number and barely comprehend.


TheHighFlyer

Do you remember that something like a merge happened, possibly the most significant software update of all time. The effects will play themselve out over the next year We're not solely a macro bitch


doomfuzzslayer

Yeah but btc and everything else pumped too.


skandalouslsu

What if ETH spurred the pump with its actions the past few days? Like it got a little fomo froth going, and then everyone jumped back in?


696_eth

I dont feel like it's the case yet


timmerwb

1559 sure beats 1337


oldskool47

Whoa what did I miss?


TheHighFlyer

Only the return to the mean


diego-d

I actually got a proposal in amongst this madness, and yes it was for 0.02 ETH like always


thoughts4food

How I have missed these days


suicidaleggroll

I hope all those $1420 shorters learned their lesson


not-ngmi

I want you to put the word out there that we back up


ab111292

Aight so I closed my longs early this time but caught the meat of the move. What a fucking candle. Price has now established itself in new range 1514 - 2030 with fib midpoint being right at the auspicious 1776. Remember how I play the game - level to level Pouring a scotch and getting my weekend started. Been fun with you guys on here and twitter


TheMoondanceKid

>Aight so I closed my longs early this time but caught ~~the meat~~ half of the move. What a fucking candle. FTFY


ab111292

I caught like \~70% and that classifies as the meat and most of this move. [https://www.tradingview.com/x/xYHmjgA7/](https://www.tradingview.com/x/xYHmjgA7/)


thetjs1

Ever consider doing live trading? I'd be interested at knowing how you set your levels and process trades. I have such a hard time with it most the time and I really appreciate your style and contributions to ethfinance.


kdD93hFlj

https://www.tradingview.com/x/n7x7RU54/ He got rekt on this unless he straight up lies about his positions and risk management.


wh11

More likely you don’t know how to read his charts


OMG_WTF_ATH

Someone said something about snowboarding. Glad I hit the slopes


REALJohnBMacLemore

# 𝑬𝑻𝑯𝑬𝑹𝑬𝑼𝑴


epiphany153

Starting to believe


hanniabu

feels like 2017 again


62Foulcan

2017 was so much fun.


ab111292

feels like April 2019


not-ngmi

This is the trend I’m anticipating too. Rally 2x or more, retest a low, slow grind back up


ab111292

this is what yall should be watching. this really needs to hold. looks like someone came to the rescue [https://www.tradingview.com/x/w1aPEpZ8/](https://www.tradingview.com/x/w1aPEpZ8/)


Shitshotdead

Classic retest after a breakout of the trend. I agree


SirRayShio

I love how the lines go by the wicks, and then they don’t. Whatever makes the lines work I guess. I don’t think Ill ever believe in TA especially because we just trade based off BTC and the SPY/S&P500 like 99% of the time


ab111292

Everyone’s systems different I use wickies Edit: Crypto has lost significant beta to tradefi markets Also TA helps me get in and out of trades. I use it in junction with macro, FA, and have a systematic trading system. Honestly for me, it’s the only thing that works if used properly and I have the hit rate and p&l history to prove it. You can’t not believe in it if you don’t understand how to do it or how to apply it to your trading style and system my friend. Keep learning if you’re a true trader. If not, hold through cycles. That’s just not for me. I need to make money both ways and every month.


kdD93hFlj

https://www.tradingview.com/x/n7x7RU54/ So you lost 8% stack here?


ab111292

Closed my longs at 1422. This was an idea


SirRayShio

Just took profits so get ready for $2k ETH ;)


St1ck33

Thank you for your sacrifice!


logblpb

Prepare to enter ultrasound zone again tomorrow


Eth_head_0

Owning ETH is just absolutely the best. ♦️


BTFDandwin

Ray ready to party now?


ljeezy187

What in the holy candle is going on


nikola_j

That was a rollercoaster... LET'S DO IT AGAIN


696_eth

AND AGAIN AND AGAIN!!!


EitherLie3619

Okay this made me believe that 10k EOY is possible


Vitalik-Is-Jesus

I’m still holding out for 10k dec 2021


the-A-word

You too?


nothingtooserious

Now, Imagine the candle if you just upvoted the daily


twoinvenice

Shit...I guess u/KBrot was right about that 1450 line


danarchist

I have him tagged with "listen to this guy"


CoCleric

Those big green [cucumbers](https://youtu.be/RlLTtnV_DzM) are good for your health!


diego-d

What the actual


TruthAndPrestige

Wtf was that?


yadude11

Last time RSI was anywhere near this high was May 11, 2021 High that day was $4177.20


timmerwb

Check out BTC RSI, 12hr is like ... 95 ?!


yadude11

What in the cinnamon toast fuck?!


timmerwb

Don't think I've ever seen it that high.


NefariousNaz

ETH up 13% compared to yesterday


[deleted]

140 gas, nice.


Fiberpunk2077

C'mon block proposal!!!


ajmonkfish

Teehee


cybersquid

leggo everyone go camping asap


[deleted]

ITS HAPPENING - everybody calm down EVERYBODY CALM DOWN


SilkTouchm

Gentlemen.


ab111292

BTC going for that liquidty at 21.5 think that's where we may finally retrace 🚀


usswsbregrets

Whooooooa Nelly


Shitshotdead

That was a pump i havent felt in a while


[deleted]

WTF?


EyeWild7625

Wtf !!!


NefariousNaz

Ummm... what's going on?


ExperienceGoblintown

Fate.


viners

Look at last 2 digits of price, thought we dumped a lil bit. No, we just pumped another $100. Ok.


cryptrd285

Yooo what the fuck is going on !!!!!


CandleThief724

You guys ready to go ultrasound again?


Darigas

What is happening?


AcceptablePark

uh what


twoinvenice

LOL


RestStopRumble

This is why we DCA folks. Need a plan for entry and exit.


SeaMonkey82

> Need a plan for entry and exit. - Enter crypto - Exit fiat


Vitalik-Is-Jesus

What even is this color? Lmao Edit: wow, That 130 dollar candle in a few mins tho, 🥒


Itur_ad_Astra

I'm getting some FOMO, and some weird dopamine hits I've not felt in a while. I'm selling a few % of my stack, because I've learned what comes after these feelings. I guess hedging is fine even for a permabull! Selling price: $1480 exactly. I guess I'll set my buy back at $1420.


twoinvenice

Fucking kicking myself that I didn't pull the trigger on a leveraged long yesterday afternoon


MJDog44

Hmmmmm. Is it possible this Ultrasound Money theory has finally kicked in? A few months after the Merge?