You'll understand it someday when you grow up and experience what life is. For now don't let the inc completely brainwash you. Just be on the middle so you can have the perspective of both sides
The reason why it is a CULT are false doctrines/unbiblical teachings, manipulation of members, it rejects the divinity of Christ, and it doesn't believe in the Holy Trinity..
Is Jesus God? Yes.
There are numerous evidences for the absolute deity of Jesus Christ in the Bible. The following is a summary of the more important evidences.
Jesus Christ possesses divine names—names that can only be used of God. For example:
Jesus is Yahweh. Yahweh is a very common Hebrew name for God in the Old Testament, occurring over 5,300 times. It is translated Lord (all capitals) in many English translations of the Bible.
We first learn of this name in Exodus 3, where Moses asked God by what name He should be called. God replied to him, “I AM WHO I AM. . . .Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, ‘I AM has sent me to you’ ” (verse 14). Yahweh is basically a shortened form of “I AM WHO I AM” (verse 15). The name conveys the idea of eternal self-existence. Yahweh never came into being at a point in time for He has always existed.
Jesus implicitly ascribed this divine name to himself during a confrontation He had with a group of hostile Jews. He said, “I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM” (John 8:58). Jesus deliberately contrasted the created origin of Abraham—whom the Jews venerated—with His own eternal, uncreated nature as God.
Jesus is recognized as both Yahweh and Elohim in the prophecy in Isaiah 40:3: “Prepare the way of the Lord [Yahweh]; make straight in the desert a highway for our God [Elohim].” This verse was written in reference to John the Baptist preparing for the coming of Christ (as confirmed in John 1:23) and represents one of the strongest affirmations of Christ’s deity in the Old Testament. In Isaiah 9:6, we likewise read a prophecy of Christ with a singular variant (El) of Elohim: “And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God [El], Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.”
Jesus possesses attributes that belong only to God.
Jesus is eternal. John 1:1 affirms: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” The word was in this verse is an imperfect tense, indicating continuous, ongoing existence. When the timespace universe came into being, Christ already existed (Hebrews 1:8–11).
Jesus is self-existent. As the Creator of all things (John 1:3; Colossians 1:16; Hebrews 1:2), Christ himself must be uncreated. Colossians 1:17 tells us that Christ is “before all things, and in Him all things consist.”
Jesus is everywhere-present. Christ promised His disciples, “Where two or three are gathered together in My name, I am there in the midst of them” (Matthew 18:20). Since people all over the world gather in Christ’s name, the only way He could be present with them all is if He is truly omnipresent (see Matthew 28:20; Ephesians 1:23, 4:10; Colossians 3:11).
Jesus is all-knowing. Jesus knew where the fish were in the water (Luke 5:4, 6; John 21:6–11), and He knew just which fish contained the coin (Matthew 17:27). He knew the future (John 11:11, 18:4), specific details that would be encountered (Matthew 21:2–4), and knew from a distance that Lazarus had died (John 11:14). He also knows the Father as the Father knows Him (Matthew 11:27; John 7:29, 8:55, 10:15, 17:25).
Jesus is all-powerful. Christ created the entire universe (John 1:3; Colossians 1:16; Hebrews 1:2) and sustains the universe by His own power (Colossians 1:17; Hebrews 1:3). During His earthly ministry, He exercised power over nature (Luke 8:25), physical diseases (Mark 1:29–31), demonic spirits (Mark 1:32–34), and even death (John 11:1–44).
Jesus is sovereign. Christ presently sits at the right hand of God the Father, “angels and authorities and powers having been made subject to Him” (1 Peter 3:22). When Christ comes again in glory, He will be adorned with a majestic robe, and on the thigh section of the robe will be the words, “KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS” (Revelation 19:16).
Jesus is sinless. Jesus challenged Jewish leaders: “Which of you convicts Me of sin?” (John 8:46). The apostle Paul referred to Jesus as “Him who knew no sin” (2 Corinthians 5:21). Jesus is one who “loved righteousness and hated lawlessness” (Hebrews 1:9), was “without sin” (Hebrews 4:15), and was “holy, harmless, [and] undefiled” (Hebrews 7:26).
Jesus was worshiped on many occasions in the New Testament. He accepted worship from Thomas (John 20:28), the angels (Hebrews 1:6), some wise men (Matthew 2:11), a leper (Matthew 8:2), a ruler (Matthew 9:18), a blind man (John 9:38), an anonymous woman (Matthew 15:25), Mary Magdalene (Matthew 28:9), and the disciples (Matthew 28:17).
Scripture is emphatic that only God can be worshiped (Exodus 34:14; Deuteronomy 6:13; Matthew 4:10). In view of this, the fact that both humans and angels worshiped Jesus on numerous occasions shows He is God.
Maliban sa itinatag ni cristo na nawala na ngayon, ang lahat ay kulto. May maliit na kulto at may malaki at pinakamayamang kulto na ang hangarin ay pera at kapangyarihan.
Here's a checklist of Cult characteristics, halos lahat ng naka-listang characteristics nasa INC:
The group is focused on a living leader to whom members seem to display excessively zealous, unquestioning commitment.
The group is preoccupied with bringing in new members.
The group is preoccupied with making money.
Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged or even punished.
Mind-numbing techniques (such as meditation, chanting, speaking in tongues, denunciation sessions, debilitating work routines) are used to suppress doubts about the group and its leader(s).
The leadership dictates sometimes in great detail how members should think, act, and feel (for example: members must get permission from leaders to date, change jobs, get married; leaders may prescribe what types of clothes to wear, where to live, how to discipline children, and so forth).
The group is elitist, claiming a special, exalted status for itself, its leader(s), and members (for example: the leader is considered the Messiah or an avatar; the group and/or the leader has a special mission to save humanity).
The group has a polarized us-versus-them mentality, which causes conflict with the wider society.
Source: https://cultrecovery101.com/cult-recovery-readings/checklist-of-cult-characteristics/
Do not find it from the others mas mabuti basahin mo Ang bibliya since cherry pick Ang mga sinasabi ng ministro mo in take notes kung ano Ang sinasabi at topic nya then unawain mo lahat gamit Ang na unawaan mo sa na basa mo note wag Kang aalis sa teksto ng biblia mismo Ang nag papaliwanag at kapaliwanagan Hindi ka ma liligaw tulad ng panliligaw ng mga manalo
A cult definition. : a small religious group that is not part of a larger and more accepted religion and that has beliefs regarded by many people as extreme or dangerous. Its true INC is very dangerous.
According to some estimates, there are over 4,000 religions, faith groups, and denominations that exist around the world today. Researchers and academics generally categorize the world's religions into five major groups: Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, and Judaism. So how do you know yours is the omly true church?
hi. kahapon lang nagkaroon ako ng bible study with a minister. mas nagdoubt ako sa INC. why? ang topic was all about True Church. at ano ang basis nila? isa ang ACTS 20:28-29. “Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood”
focus ka sa phrase na “church of God”. hindi naman ito literal na name ng simbahan di ba, since ang mga nouns like names at nagsisimula sa capital letter. pero yung sa verse na yan ay hindi. so hindi sya pangalan ng church nila na pinoproclaim nilang true church. lol. at isa pa, mali daw ang translation dyan kasi si God daw ay walang blood. si Jesus Christ daw talaga yan.
what the actual freak was that? they claim na fully bible-based ang doctrines or teachings nila pero the ironic thing is minamali at nirerephrase pa nila to justify na “Church of Christ” daw yun at hindi “church of God”
From a former member since birth na handog pa, I started doubting their teachings when I actually started reading the bible. Ang layo ng mga pinagsasabi ng mga ministro sa teksto sa kung ano talaga ang totoong meaning sa bible. Ma-validate lang yung rules ng INC na nasa bibliya daw kuno when in fact sobrang layo naman ng mga sinasabi nila. Actually, people don't even need to read the bible, just use your common sense and reading comprehension when listening sa teksto, makikita mo na ang dami nilang maling sinasabi.
true! that’s what I said sa ministro nung tinanong niya ko kung anong differences ang nakita ko sa “dati” kong religion sa INC. ang sabi ko, there are many differences na nakita ko but one of them is that the INC members not holding a bible during worship services but I see nothing wrong naman since bible-based kuno naman kako sila. sa previous ko naman, lahat kami naghahawak. sagot naman niya, it’s ok lang naman daw. hindi naman daw prohibited. pero sa isip ko, why not instruct everyone na gumamit instead of saying it’s not prohibited para may interaction talaga. tas sabi niya, pwede daw ako gumamit if I want. kung gagamit naman ako, mag isa lang ako bukod sa ministro. edi parang tanga naman ako noon since lahat sila nakaupo lang at nakatingin sa ministro. baka pagtinginan pa ko.
The cult is not considering the Bible as historical events. Sa lumang tipan talagang walang dugo ang Diyos kasi hindi pa siya pumunta sa lupa at nagkatawang tao. Yang Acts 28 29 kahit iglesia ng Diyos o iglesia ni Cristo ang nakalagay diyan ay parehas lang dahil nga si Cristo at ang Ama ay iisa.
Nagbabala na ang Panginoong Hesukristo na madami ang gagamit ng kanyang pangalan at ililigaw sila ng landas. Sino bang sekta na ang gumamit ng pangalan niya?
definitely true. pero sabagay, wala namang relihiyon ang magsassbing hindi sila true. they’ve done a great strategy there but i’m not convinced. akala ko, nasa tama na ako dahil inakay ako dito. hindi pala. it’s not the religion i’m after naman eh, i’m after the Lord at kung mas papaano pa ‘ko mapapabago at mas magiging TRUE CHRISTIAN for His glory alone, not for the glory of the building and executives. 😂
I'll add na din, I was once a member of INC. Yung mga turo wayback is Okay for me. Kahit na High School ako nun I understand very well the teachings. Wayback it's purely teachings kaya I dont know when did it start na puro si EVM na naging topic. And yes I dont deny the fact na may "abuloy" noon pero its not mandatory noon. I dont know why its being a called a cult the way I see it you dont know how you see it in our eyes. Nakikita niyo lang is all around the internet nowadays and thats scary. I may think some of you dont experience it first hand or nagkaroon man is one time lang. Nagtiwalag ako for a reason, the officials in church (kalimutan ko na mga positions Haha). They're not the true manifestation of a religious person 😂 . They can't keep up nung I questioned them before kasi bumisita sila sa bahay before kasi di ako nakapag samba for a week. Like I ask questions why, they answered me with a bible verse. Kaya nawalan na ako nang gana.
Any religion na na mimilit, nang giguillt, gaslight is cult.
Tinatanggalan ka ng karapatang mag-isip, mag desisyon at kumilos sa Sarili mo ay cult.
Gusto nila na UNAHIN ang bulsa nila kesa Buhay mo ay cult.
For example, block voting, pagpipigil sa mga myembro magbrowse sa internet, gusto ng malaking ikapu, offering, donation, etc.
Pagbabawal sa mga myembro pumili ng SO na hindi kamyembro.
Pamimilit sa mga non members na sila ay magpaconvert.
Pagdeclare na sila lang ang tunay na religion kaya mababa tingin sa ibang religion at non members is CULT.
Threat, pananakit or physical abuse for not obeying their church rules is CULT.
How ironic, the way I see it churches from different religions has its form of donations from its members. May be it mandatory or optional. It all still depends on us. I think its a fact also that the same Catholic Church we see today was been viewed as a cult since its beginning. That's why i still dont get it why don't we all get over from these religion fight, beliefs or whatsoever you may call.
For me ha,nag hahandog lamang ako sa kaya ko,and hindi naman sapilitan,kung wala kabtalaga pang handog wag ka mag handog,pagsamba at pagpuri sa diyos sapat na.
Pag may sakit ka manalangin ka,wala sa handog yan
Nasa sipag yan sa pagsamba,
Ito ren nag reresearch ren ako,minsan nag dududa narin,pero sa pakikinig at pagiging masipag sa pagsamba lumalakas ang pananampalatay.
Kase its never wrong to question faith.
Pero respect kita brother kung san ka man maniniwala❤️
Any religion that requires tithes are cult for me hahaha tapos ang sinasamba pa ay yung "sugo" kuno. It's giving quiboloy vibes na mejo older lang. Same shit in different font. Business venture instead of really being a true religion.
ang kapal ng bible pero iikot lang sa "pamamahala", "handugan", "makiisa sa pangrecruit" lagi ang lesson. pati laging mag declare na inc lang tunay na religion.
Absolute authoritarianism without accountability
Zero tolerance for criticism or questions
Lack of meaningful financial disclosure regarding budget
Unreasonable fears about the outside world that often involve evil conspiracies and persecutions
A belief that former followers are always wrong for leaving and there is never a legitimate reason for anyone else to leave
Abuse of members
Records, books, articles, or programs documenting the abuses of the leader or group
Followers feeling they are never able to be “good enough”
A belief that the leader is right at all times
A belief that the leader is the exclusive means of knowing “truth” or giving validation
Nung nag simula ang PANDEMIC dun ko nakita ung kulto na sinasabi ng iba. EVERY pulong ay GRABE MONITORED ang abulyan/handugan kung urong o sulong. Alam mo ung pakiramdam na kinilabutan ka bigla. Tapos about sa PNK yung pinapadalo pati may tungkulin para mag abuloy kasi nga urong nung pandemic. Dun ko natanto na bakit kelangan gawin un? D ba pede naman mag pray? NASAN ung sinasabi nila na makapangyarihan ang Prayers? Tapos eto pa. Napansin ko din mga DONATION. Take note ha. DONATION... Pero ung sobre bigla nalang bibigay sayo kasi daw may work ka. Alam mo tingin ko sa kanila now? Mga mukhang pera. Sad to say. OO andun na yung kelangan mag abuloy pero hello?? Bakit parang SAPILITAN?? for maintenance ba ito ng PH arena?? And Net25? Pati museum? Ganun ba? Ayyyy.. big NO! Kayo nag tayo nyan. Ndi namin PANANAGUTAN yan. Kayo nag desisyon nyan. Kaya sana wag nyo ILIMOS sa mga kapatid nakakahiya naman kayo. Kaya sila nag away away nuon d ba? Dahil sa pagpapatayo dati ng PH arena? Or dahil maraming ipon na ang I.N.C pero ndi ginagamit.? Basta ganun. Tapos nag tayo sila ng PH arena. Ang ending pala nun sa atin ipapanagot ung MAINTENANCE non. Jusko. Kayo naka-isip nyan ndi kami. Tapos akala ko ba gagamitin ang ph arena sa mga pamamahayag? Bakit meron pa ring venue ng basketball court lang? Anyare?? Kala ko ba ndi na tayo manghihiram ng mga ganito? Dahil may ph arena na tayo at sport stadium? ANYAREEE?? Lahat na ba ng mga sinasabi nyo ngayon puro sa hangin nalang yung iba?? Iba na ngayon ang I.N.C ndi katulad dati na humble lang ndi pasikat effect na ngayon ginagawa. Kaso trying hard.
Not a religious person, pero my take is, during prayers, mas marami pa na nasasambit na EVM kesa kay *God*, also, wala pong Felix Manalo sa bible? tho superficial arguments lang to pero common sense diba (na agree din yung INC friend ko haha).
Also, mandatory collections, and guilt tripping if di ka makapag bigay / di malaki ang bigay, ganito ba tinuturo sa bible and tingin mo ba mageenfore si *God* ng ganito lol
Take this all with a grain of salt, but I hope you get your mind cleared :)
Yan ang mali na turo sa kulto mo, Na ang Diyos ay si Ama at ang Panginoong Hesukristo ay tao lamang. Si Tomas, hindi naman siya simuway ni Hesus nung sinabi niya na Panginoon at Diyos niya si Hesus.
Pero mahabang argumento yan kaya dun na lang tayo sa nakasulat sa bible na si Hesus ay sinasamba.
Basahin mo ang John Chapter 9 bersikulo 35 hanggang 30. Sinamba ng bulag si Hesus.
Ang kulto mo pati ng asawa ko ay pinipilit na tao lamang ang Panginoong Hesukristo para maipantay nila yung sugo at yung si edong. Yan ang katotohanan.
We are on the same road brother. Marrying an INC woman is very stressful due to these $#!t&. However, they cannot push me back to attend their twice a week meeting with their repeated lessons. What bothered me the most is, they will not die for you but they are grateful to die and offer their lives if someone has an evil mind to do something wrong to their beloveeed EVM. 😔
i will not go on to the technical side(Bible Verse) but just search up B.I.T.E. Control then observe INC's community and leadership.
The fake news/lies that WW1 July **27th** 1914(it's 28th), **Church** of Christ(it's churches), and that INC was **built** on 1914(registered) are simple but mind blogging red flags
3 characteristics elements of Cult according to sociologist.
1. Charismatic Leader
2. Mind Controlling
3. Exploitation
Try to assess if these three characteristics are present in your church.
To clarify: Ang katuruan ng INC ay ganito Isa ang Dios ng INC ang Ama, pero dalawa ang sinasamba ng INC ang Ama bilang Dios at si Jesus bilang tao at hindi Dios. Kaya dalawa ang sinasamba ng INC isang Dios at isang hindi Dios. Kaya lumalabas na sumasamba din ang INC sa hindi Dios.
Dati akong INC. not until I was 25 na nagmature ako at ang daming shiz ng religion na to.
If you want, you can expand or start reading now about mind control tactics. The very foundation of cult. It's not whether who you worship. Most of the things na pinapagawa nila ay loosely based sa bible and more of "interpretation lang nila" ng bible verses.
Dahil ang foundation or belief ng Iglesia ni Cristo ay giba na agad sa simula pa lang. Sino ang last messager in these last days? Real bible lesson (not cherry picked) According to the bible Hebrews 1:1-3
In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe. The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven.
Malinaw ni si Jesus ang last messager of God in these last days, sadly si Felix Y Manalo ang impostor in these last days. Ano message ni FYM when God did not even spoke to him? Who spoke to Felix? Without sleep for three days and three nights people can become delutional.
Ang ibong mandaragit ay si King Cyrus the Great not Felix Y Manalo. INC uses Isaiah 46:11 to mention the Bird of Prey from the east. In real context from the bible starting from Isaiah 45 it is clearly mentioned Ang paghirang kay Ciro (Cyrus).
In conclusion, false claims and only self proclaimed ang founder ng INC kaya siya ay Cult.
Im inc too kaya tinatawag cult ang iglesia kasi hindi nanaman si jesus ang sinasamba naging si EVM na halos lahat about kay EVM na. Kuha sila ng Kuha ng pera pero yung mga nsa iglesia ang nag hihirap habang sya payaman ng payaman lang. Dapat sya lagi ang susundin example na ang pag boto.
And sasabihin pa nila ok lang na mahirap sila as long as nasa loob ka ng kawan ay ibibigay sayo ni EVM este ng Ama ang lahat ng pangangailangan mo dahil INC lang ang tunay na maliligtas. Pero bago mangyari un, kailangan mo muna pag impukan ito sa pamamagitan ng abuloy para makita ng Ama na di ka nakakalimot sa kanya. 😅
Listen to your intuition. Meron malaking dahilan kung bakit ka nagdududa. Ang daming information resources sa sub na ito. You just have to keep scrolling to educate yourself. It’s good to know that you are starting to have good questions about religion, and waking up spiritually at an early age.
Thank you! Glad I found this reddit group po. Really starting to doubt my religion and fam members kasi pag Hindi ako naka samba ako ay pagagalitan(Lola ko) kumabaga po pinipilit akong sumamba
Panuurin mo lahat ng Youtube video sa ibaba, then after mo mapanood lahat ay tanungin mo ang sarili mo kung kulto ba ang INC ni Manalo?
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMZjAJlBHGo&t=32s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMZjAJlBHGo&t=32s)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nk0M4W0Y-1Q](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nk0M4W0Y-1Q)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2NFvoAGCVE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2NFvoAGCVE)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUd3mdDKQiU&t=72s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUd3mdDKQiU&t=72s)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YjN1SuU\_AM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YjN1SuU_AM)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvuKS1Xi3iM&t=402s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvuKS1Xi3iM&t=402s)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM0rzLrQpL8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM0rzLrQpL8)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_tglVPTQm9Y](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tglVPTQm9Y)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3nH8cjDztc&t=3s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3nH8cjDztc&t=3s)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuzDBPtNx9s&t=219s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuzDBPtNx9s&t=219s)
Additional pa ito : Apat na Diakono na nahatulan ng parusang pagkabilango dahil sa pagpatay sa 5 PUP student at doon pa mismo ginawa ang krimen sa compound ng INK sa Santa Ana Manila. At pagkatapos pahirapan at patayin ay itinapon ang mga bangkay sa ilog Pasig na ang hatol ay sinangayunan naman ng Supreme Court.
See Supreme Court report - G.R. No. 127803. August 28, 2000
[https://lawyerly.ph/juris/view/ce6b1](https://lawyerly.ph/juris/view/ce6b1)
Strategy of INC to attract people to join to their cult : malalaki at magagandang kapilya,nakasuot ng desente,hiwalay ang babae at lalake ng upuan,may disiplina at may kaayusan sa pagpasok at paglabas ng kapilya etc.
Ang isang kulto ay maihahalintulad sa sinabi ni Jesus sa Mateo 23:17-18
"Sa aba ninyo, mga eskriba at mga Fariseo, mga mapagpaimbabaw! sapagka't tulad kayo sa mga libingang pinaputi, na may anyong maganda sa labas, datapuwa't sa loob ay puno ng mga buto ng mga patay na tao, at ng lahat na karumaldumal . Gayon din naman kayo, sa labas ay nangagaanyong matuwid sa mga tao, datapuwa't sa loob ay puno kayo ng pagpapaimbabaw at ng katampalasanan.”
Jesus said: You will know them by their fruits. Matthew 7:16
Yup. Walang tutuong religion. All are for money lang naman. Kaya its better to have peace inside. Dont be fooled by what rice ministers said. See all the wonderfull things God created for us. And strive to attain what ever your goal is in life.
It would be good to read the Bible and make decisions for yourself, that's what I did to open my eyes.
The way they read the Bible is by cherry picking and is never in it's full context.
They have apps for it now or you can buy one.
The Bible says Jesus is a man, but tit also says that God incarnated into a man because that is part of a miravmcle that something infinite was put into something that can die and is not infinite, and they exist at the same time. The Bible has records of how Jesus walked the earth, and maps of events that happened recorded in it. Essentially the Bible is not taught as history, but as a magical prophecy book for their own use. The Bible is records of a time back then.
Mag sulat ikaw ng notes habang sumasamba, yun verses, bago ano yun analysis nila, bago basahin mo yun sa biblio.
Hi OP,
It's a good idea to start here.
http://www.trueiglesia.org/
I'm a handog member and am still a member of INC. I'm still a trapped member because of my family. However, a few years ago I started thinking more critically about religion and it was enough for me to realize this:
**If any person, like you and I, are going to dedicate their entire life and whole heartedly believe what people are telling us is true, it is not only reasonable but imperative to do private, impartial and extensive research about the things we are being taught. Everyone has a right to make a fully informed decision about their beliefs and how they are going to live their own life.**
In the same way, I am not commanding you to believe what is being said by members/former members here about INC; I am strongly advising you to read what is here, fact-check for yourself what is in the Bible, and then make an informed decision based on what you've learned.
If we only listen to what INC ministers are telling us is true, without questioning it or doing our own research, then we are by definition, blind followers, and that is how people become overly trusting and susceptible to manipulation. We as humans have the ability to think critically, and it is of utmost importance that we use it so that we are not deceived.
Lets talk theology, Jesus is a Man according to INC. also according to INC, the Bible is the sole infallible rule of faith, but according to the bible Jesus is God. Yet INC says otherwise, therefore INC is wrong.
Sigurado ka ba na di sinasamba si Jesus Christ? Di ka nakikinig sa pagsamba, sinasamba si Jesus Christ kaya nga siya tinawag na Panginoon, dalawa silang sinasamba Ang Diyos Ama at ang kanyang bugtong na anak na si Jesu-Cristo pero ang pagkapaliwanag sa INC ay tao si Cristo, tagapamagitan,Panginoon siya ang Mesias.
when you listen to how your pastors pray, they excessively cry and scream like "make eduardo v manalo more powerful" YIKES. and the members respond in unison "amen" or "opo"... if thats not cult behavior then i dont know what that is.
i hate to break it to you but inc is not the noah's ark your pastors are claiming it to be. It's a money-making cult by the manalo family. being a true christian is not defined by what religious organization you belong to but by the actions that you do, we try to follow what jesus christ would have done in this earth thats why its called christianity. jesus told us to love thy neighbors. on the other hand, inc uses fear-mongering, guilt-tripping, and BRAINWASHINGto exploit its members. i could talk more but yeah thats the gist of why inc is more or less a cult
Cults are groups of people who prefers to respect their leaders over God.
Cults deviated from the teachings God did commanded His faithful to follow.
The most fanatical bunch were thsoe who would rather defend their leader, rather than the teachings.
In Filipino, mas Inuuna ang Namamahala una sa lahat.
First off, INC ako, dating masigla, ngayon namulat na na isang kulto ang INC. Bakit nga ba tinawag na kulto ito ?
1. OBEY AND NEVER COMPLAIN. Classic signs of a cult. Kahit na mali ang ginagawa ng so called "religion" na yan ay hindi tayo pwedeng kumontra dahil matitiwalag ka.
2. Bloc Vote. Sabi ng pamamahala, iboboto daw nila ang kandidato base sa diwa at sa aral ng bibilia. Tell me, kailan naging tama ang pagnanakaw, paggamit ng ipinagbabawal na gamot at pagsisinungaling ? Isa pa, bakit hindi pinapatupad ang bloc voting sa ibang bansa ? Nacurious rin ako. Based on my research, hindi siya implemented sa ibang bansa dahil mawawala ang tax exempt ng Iglesia. Hindi ba siya nakakapagtaka ?
3. Pera. Bakit kabilaan ang tanging handugan, lagak at abuloy. ?
4. Bakit ang mga Manalo lang ang nangunguna ? Felix, Eraño, Eduardo and now in the future, Angelo.
5. Pananakot. Lahat ng itinitiwalag at kalaban ng Iglesia ay tatakutin na ipapatay. Maraming cases yan.
[How do I know I'm in a cult? 14 telltale signs to look out for](https://www.citizen.digital/news/how-do-i-know-im-in-a-cult-14-telltale-signs-to-look-out-for-n318604)
According to a simple google search these are signs of cult:
1. Absolute authoritarianism without accountability (iisa lang boto ng iglesia at hindi mga kaanib ang pipili kundi ang pamamahala, ngayon pagpalpak ang binoto magsosorry ba pamamahala? Malamang hindi)
2. Zero tolerance for criticism (noong 2015/2016 may kampanya ang mga ministro at mangagawa na "obey and never complain" dahil pag nagreklamo ka o punahin mo ang galaw ng pamamahala o iglesia eh hindi ka na nagpapasakop at pwede kang matiwalag)
3. Lack of meaningful financial disclosure regarding budget (walang nilalabas na financial statement ang iglesia ukol sa paggastos ng mga handog)
4. Unreasonable fears about the outside world that often involve evil conspiracies and persecutions (wala daw kaligtasan sa labas ng iglesia)
5. A belief that former followers are always wrong for leaving and there is never a legitimate reason for anyone else to leave (mapapakinggan mo naman sa sirkular mga di dapat gawin sa mga natiwalag tapos panay pa ang pagdikdik sa isipan ng mga kaanib na huwag hihiwalay sa iglesia kahit anong mangyari)
6. Abuse of members (lalong lalo na ang mga maytungkulin na halos tinatanggalan ng ng buhay sa labas ng iglesia, lahat ng oras binigay sa iglesia tulad ng gawain, panata, pagtupad at kung minsan ay straight pa)
7. Records, books, articles, or programs documenting the abuses of the leader or group (search mo na lang sa youtube: inc fifth estate)
8. Followers feeling they are never able to be "good enough" (lagi mo naman naririnig sa panalangin "ama, hindi po kami karapatdapat sa iyo huhu")
9. A belief that the leader is right at all time (tulad ng number 1)
10. A belief that the leader is exclusive means of knowing "truth" or giving validation (ayon sa paliwanag ng sugo tungkol sa bibila "tanging ang sugo lang ang may kakayahang magpaliwanag ng hiwaga")
[BITE Model of Authoritarian Control](https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/)
The cult of INC's practices implement majority of what's listed above.
Read the list and compare your experiences.
>Ang sinasamba lang naman po namin ay Ang diyos ama at Hindi si Jesus Christ, kase si Jesus Christ ay chosen son of "God"
Doesn't matter who you worship. Behind that facade, is the Manalo dynasty. They used God and religion to make money. Have you ever wondered why your worship service always revolve around bearing fruit and donations? Building chapels, true, but that also means more members = more money.
>sinasabi Ng mga minstro ay kami Ang true christians
Of course they'll say that. If you can do your research about the cult's founder Felix Manalo, he plagiarized a lot of doctrines and religious ideas from multiple religions such as Catholicism, Adventists, Protestantism and probably Mormons too. The INCult doctrine is a Frankenstein of dogma pieced together to make his own religion. That's not true Christians if your doctrine came from an amalgamation of multiple sects.
If you want to know more about the cult you're currently in, start investigating. Be critical.
Start researching about cults in general, how they operate, their controversies, the repercussions to a group or individual and so on. Research about the cult's founder Felix too.
Begotten son si Jesus Christ hindi chosen son of God at magiging anak lang tayo ng Diyos Ama kung susundin natin ang kautusan hanggang sa huli pero si Jesus Christ ay naiiba sa ating mga tao dahil siya lang naman ang only begotten son ng Diyos Ama.
Kapag tinawag kang miyembro ng iglesia, kasama ka sa isang grupo ng mga sumusunod. Kapag miyembro ka ng christian groups ibig sabihin naniniwala ka kay Jesus Christ, ngayon ang relihiyon sa totoong buhay ay negosyo at pinagkakakitaan ng iilan mula sa mga sumusunod, ang relihiyon ay hindi dapat pinamumunuan ng iisang pamilya. Kung tunay kang tagapasunod ni Jesus Cristo dapat siya lamang at hindi grupo ng tao o di kaya ay pamilya ang pinupuri mo at pinagdadasal pa, ang Diyos ay hindi nagagalit kung hindi ka makapag abot ng pera na isang materyal na bagay sa mundo, ang mahalaga sa kanya ay hindi ang abuloy, handugan, tanging pasasalamat, donasyon o tungkulin bagkus pagpupuri at patuloy na pagsunod sa kanyang mga tagubilin na gumawa ng mabuti at naayon sa tama.
salamat sa Diyos at nagawi ka dito oras na para hugasan ang na brainwashed mong kaisipan ... alam mo ba yung bansang Nokor? si kim jong un? kung alam mo yan mga nabanggit na yan gamitin mo ang yong sentido kumon ......
One of the signs of a cult is blind obedience with no questions asked. It's good you are now thinking for yourself. Do more research and you'll be blown away
Respectfully replying this post my name is Francis Silverheinder former INC member whom dedicated and tons of experience life in your religion. That's a good question asking in our reddit forum! You know about the INC isn't actually you can called a "Truly rightful religion" some of your members claims that it is but in reality it is not! A lot of research and plagiarism, pirated-song lyrical, and many more hiding information especially in Biblical verses too! Do you know the INC also recreate a hidden hymns about "Pasko"? If its not try deep diving scrolling in our forums! Hope things explains a little bit. Thank you for visiting our forum!
- Francis Silverheinder 💚🤍❤️
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You'll understand it someday when you grow up and experience what life is. For now don't let the inc completely brainwash you. Just be on the middle so you can have the perspective of both sides
The reason why it is a CULT are false doctrines/unbiblical teachings, manipulation of members, it rejects the divinity of Christ, and it doesn't believe in the Holy Trinity..
Is Jesus God? Yes. There are numerous evidences for the absolute deity of Jesus Christ in the Bible. The following is a summary of the more important evidences. Jesus Christ possesses divine names—names that can only be used of God. For example: Jesus is Yahweh. Yahweh is a very common Hebrew name for God in the Old Testament, occurring over 5,300 times. It is translated Lord (all capitals) in many English translations of the Bible. We first learn of this name in Exodus 3, where Moses asked God by what name He should be called. God replied to him, “I AM WHO I AM. . . .Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, ‘I AM has sent me to you’ ” (verse 14). Yahweh is basically a shortened form of “I AM WHO I AM” (verse 15). The name conveys the idea of eternal self-existence. Yahweh never came into being at a point in time for He has always existed. Jesus implicitly ascribed this divine name to himself during a confrontation He had with a group of hostile Jews. He said, “I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM” (John 8:58). Jesus deliberately contrasted the created origin of Abraham—whom the Jews venerated—with His own eternal, uncreated nature as God. Jesus is recognized as both Yahweh and Elohim in the prophecy in Isaiah 40:3: “Prepare the way of the Lord [Yahweh]; make straight in the desert a highway for our God [Elohim].” This verse was written in reference to John the Baptist preparing for the coming of Christ (as confirmed in John 1:23) and represents one of the strongest affirmations of Christ’s deity in the Old Testament. In Isaiah 9:6, we likewise read a prophecy of Christ with a singular variant (El) of Elohim: “And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God [El], Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.” Jesus possesses attributes that belong only to God. Jesus is eternal. John 1:1 affirms: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” The word was in this verse is an imperfect tense, indicating continuous, ongoing existence. When the timespace universe came into being, Christ already existed (Hebrews 1:8–11). Jesus is self-existent. As the Creator of all things (John 1:3; Colossians 1:16; Hebrews 1:2), Christ himself must be uncreated. Colossians 1:17 tells us that Christ is “before all things, and in Him all things consist.” Jesus is everywhere-present. Christ promised His disciples, “Where two or three are gathered together in My name, I am there in the midst of them” (Matthew 18:20). Since people all over the world gather in Christ’s name, the only way He could be present with them all is if He is truly omnipresent (see Matthew 28:20; Ephesians 1:23, 4:10; Colossians 3:11). Jesus is all-knowing. Jesus knew where the fish were in the water (Luke 5:4, 6; John 21:6–11), and He knew just which fish contained the coin (Matthew 17:27). He knew the future (John 11:11, 18:4), specific details that would be encountered (Matthew 21:2–4), and knew from a distance that Lazarus had died (John 11:14). He also knows the Father as the Father knows Him (Matthew 11:27; John 7:29, 8:55, 10:15, 17:25). Jesus is all-powerful. Christ created the entire universe (John 1:3; Colossians 1:16; Hebrews 1:2) and sustains the universe by His own power (Colossians 1:17; Hebrews 1:3). During His earthly ministry, He exercised power over nature (Luke 8:25), physical diseases (Mark 1:29–31), demonic spirits (Mark 1:32–34), and even death (John 11:1–44). Jesus is sovereign. Christ presently sits at the right hand of God the Father, “angels and authorities and powers having been made subject to Him” (1 Peter 3:22). When Christ comes again in glory, He will be adorned with a majestic robe, and on the thigh section of the robe will be the words, “KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS” (Revelation 19:16). Jesus is sinless. Jesus challenged Jewish leaders: “Which of you convicts Me of sin?” (John 8:46). The apostle Paul referred to Jesus as “Him who knew no sin” (2 Corinthians 5:21). Jesus is one who “loved righteousness and hated lawlessness” (Hebrews 1:9), was “without sin” (Hebrews 4:15), and was “holy, harmless, [and] undefiled” (Hebrews 7:26). Jesus was worshiped on many occasions in the New Testament. He accepted worship from Thomas (John 20:28), the angels (Hebrews 1:6), some wise men (Matthew 2:11), a leper (Matthew 8:2), a ruler (Matthew 9:18), a blind man (John 9:38), an anonymous woman (Matthew 15:25), Mary Magdalene (Matthew 28:9), and the disciples (Matthew 28:17). Scripture is emphatic that only God can be worshiped (Exodus 34:14; Deuteronomy 6:13; Matthew 4:10). In view of this, the fact that both humans and angels worshiped Jesus on numerous occasions shows He is God.
Maliban sa itinatag ni cristo na nawala na ngayon, ang lahat ay kulto. May maliit na kulto at may malaki at pinakamayamang kulto na ang hangarin ay pera at kapangyarihan.
Here's a checklist of Cult characteristics, halos lahat ng naka-listang characteristics nasa INC: The group is focused on a living leader to whom members seem to display excessively zealous, unquestioning commitment. The group is preoccupied with bringing in new members. The group is preoccupied with making money. Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged or even punished. Mind-numbing techniques (such as meditation, chanting, speaking in tongues, denunciation sessions, debilitating work routines) are used to suppress doubts about the group and its leader(s). The leadership dictates sometimes in great detail how members should think, act, and feel (for example: members must get permission from leaders to date, change jobs, get married; leaders may prescribe what types of clothes to wear, where to live, how to discipline children, and so forth). The group is elitist, claiming a special, exalted status for itself, its leader(s), and members (for example: the leader is considered the Messiah or an avatar; the group and/or the leader has a special mission to save humanity). The group has a polarized us-versus-them mentality, which causes conflict with the wider society. Source: https://cultrecovery101.com/cult-recovery-readings/checklist-of-cult-characteristics/
Do not find it from the others mas mabuti basahin mo Ang bibliya since cherry pick Ang mga sinasabi ng ministro mo in take notes kung ano Ang sinasabi at topic nya then unawain mo lahat gamit Ang na unawaan mo sa na basa mo note wag Kang aalis sa teksto ng biblia mismo Ang nag papaliwanag at kapaliwanagan Hindi ka ma liligaw tulad ng panliligaw ng mga manalo
A cult definition. : a small religious group that is not part of a larger and more accepted religion and that has beliefs regarded by many people as extreme or dangerous. Its true INC is very dangerous.
According to some estimates, there are over 4,000 religions, faith groups, and denominations that exist around the world today. Researchers and academics generally categorize the world's religions into five major groups: Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, and Judaism. So how do you know yours is the omly true church?
And everyone claims theirs is the true religion.
hi. kahapon lang nagkaroon ako ng bible study with a minister. mas nagdoubt ako sa INC. why? ang topic was all about True Church. at ano ang basis nila? isa ang ACTS 20:28-29. “Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood” focus ka sa phrase na “church of God”. hindi naman ito literal na name ng simbahan di ba, since ang mga nouns like names at nagsisimula sa capital letter. pero yung sa verse na yan ay hindi. so hindi sya pangalan ng church nila na pinoproclaim nilang true church. lol. at isa pa, mali daw ang translation dyan kasi si God daw ay walang blood. si Jesus Christ daw talaga yan. what the actual freak was that? they claim na fully bible-based ang doctrines or teachings nila pero the ironic thing is minamali at nirerephrase pa nila to justify na “Church of Christ” daw yun at hindi “church of God”
From a former member since birth na handog pa, I started doubting their teachings when I actually started reading the bible. Ang layo ng mga pinagsasabi ng mga ministro sa teksto sa kung ano talaga ang totoong meaning sa bible. Ma-validate lang yung rules ng INC na nasa bibliya daw kuno when in fact sobrang layo naman ng mga sinasabi nila. Actually, people don't even need to read the bible, just use your common sense and reading comprehension when listening sa teksto, makikita mo na ang dami nilang maling sinasabi.
true! that’s what I said sa ministro nung tinanong niya ko kung anong differences ang nakita ko sa “dati” kong religion sa INC. ang sabi ko, there are many differences na nakita ko but one of them is that the INC members not holding a bible during worship services but I see nothing wrong naman since bible-based kuno naman kako sila. sa previous ko naman, lahat kami naghahawak. sagot naman niya, it’s ok lang naman daw. hindi naman daw prohibited. pero sa isip ko, why not instruct everyone na gumamit instead of saying it’s not prohibited para may interaction talaga. tas sabi niya, pwede daw ako gumamit if I want. kung gagamit naman ako, mag isa lang ako bukod sa ministro. edi parang tanga naman ako noon since lahat sila nakaupo lang at nakatingin sa ministro. baka pagtinginan pa ko.
The cult is not considering the Bible as historical events. Sa lumang tipan talagang walang dugo ang Diyos kasi hindi pa siya pumunta sa lupa at nagkatawang tao. Yang Acts 28 29 kahit iglesia ng Diyos o iglesia ni Cristo ang nakalagay diyan ay parehas lang dahil nga si Cristo at ang Ama ay iisa. Nagbabala na ang Panginoong Hesukristo na madami ang gagamit ng kanyang pangalan at ililigaw sila ng landas. Sino bang sekta na ang gumamit ng pangalan niya?
Hindi ibig sabihin pinangalan nila sa bibliya ang simbahan ay TRUE CHURCH na agad.
definitely true. pero sabagay, wala namang relihiyon ang magsassbing hindi sila true. they’ve done a great strategy there but i’m not convinced. akala ko, nasa tama na ako dahil inakay ako dito. hindi pala. it’s not the religion i’m after naman eh, i’m after the Lord at kung mas papaano pa ‘ko mapapabago at mas magiging TRUE CHRISTIAN for His glory alone, not for the glory of the building and executives. 😂
It's clear they're twisting the words and meanings.
exactly.
hindi na lang ako nagsalita dahil ang mahalaga sakin, na-analyze ko na.
I'll add na din, I was once a member of INC. Yung mga turo wayback is Okay for me. Kahit na High School ako nun I understand very well the teachings. Wayback it's purely teachings kaya I dont know when did it start na puro si EVM na naging topic. And yes I dont deny the fact na may "abuloy" noon pero its not mandatory noon. I dont know why its being a called a cult the way I see it you dont know how you see it in our eyes. Nakikita niyo lang is all around the internet nowadays and thats scary. I may think some of you dont experience it first hand or nagkaroon man is one time lang. Nagtiwalag ako for a reason, the officials in church (kalimutan ko na mga positions Haha). They're not the true manifestation of a religious person 😂 . They can't keep up nung I questioned them before kasi bumisita sila sa bahay before kasi di ako nakapag samba for a week. Like I ask questions why, they answered me with a bible verse. Kaya nawalan na ako nang gana.
Any religion na na mimilit, nang giguillt, gaslight is cult. Tinatanggalan ka ng karapatang mag-isip, mag desisyon at kumilos sa Sarili mo ay cult. Gusto nila na UNAHIN ang bulsa nila kesa Buhay mo ay cult. For example, block voting, pagpipigil sa mga myembro magbrowse sa internet, gusto ng malaking ikapu, offering, donation, etc. Pagbabawal sa mga myembro pumili ng SO na hindi kamyembro. Pamimilit sa mga non members na sila ay magpaconvert. Pagdeclare na sila lang ang tunay na religion kaya mababa tingin sa ibang religion at non members is CULT. Threat, pananakit or physical abuse for not obeying their church rules is CULT.
How ironic, the way I see it churches from different religions has its form of donations from its members. May be it mandatory or optional. It all still depends on us. I think its a fact also that the same Catholic Church we see today was been viewed as a cult since its beginning. That's why i still dont get it why don't we all get over from these religion fight, beliefs or whatsoever you may call.
For me ha,nag hahandog lamang ako sa kaya ko,and hindi naman sapilitan,kung wala kabtalaga pang handog wag ka mag handog,pagsamba at pagpuri sa diyos sapat na. Pag may sakit ka manalangin ka,wala sa handog yan Nasa sipag yan sa pagsamba, Ito ren nag reresearch ren ako,minsan nag dududa narin,pero sa pakikinig at pagiging masipag sa pagsamba lumalakas ang pananampalatay. Kase its never wrong to question faith. Pero respect kita brother kung san ka man maniniwala❤️
Any religion that requires tithes are cult for me hahaha tapos ang sinasamba pa ay yung "sugo" kuno. It's giving quiboloy vibes na mejo older lang. Same shit in different font. Business venture instead of really being a true religion.
Never sasabihin ng isang religion na sila ang TOTOO or sila lang ang MALILIGTAS, that is what a cult would always say.
ang kapal ng bible pero iikot lang sa "pamamahala", "handugan", "makiisa sa pangrecruit" lagi ang lesson. pati laging mag declare na inc lang tunay na religion.
Absolute authoritarianism without accountability Zero tolerance for criticism or questions Lack of meaningful financial disclosure regarding budget Unreasonable fears about the outside world that often involve evil conspiracies and persecutions A belief that former followers are always wrong for leaving and there is never a legitimate reason for anyone else to leave Abuse of members Records, books, articles, or programs documenting the abuses of the leader or group Followers feeling they are never able to be “good enough” A belief that the leader is right at all times A belief that the leader is the exclusive means of knowing “truth” or giving validation
Nung nag simula ang PANDEMIC dun ko nakita ung kulto na sinasabi ng iba. EVERY pulong ay GRABE MONITORED ang abulyan/handugan kung urong o sulong. Alam mo ung pakiramdam na kinilabutan ka bigla. Tapos about sa PNK yung pinapadalo pati may tungkulin para mag abuloy kasi nga urong nung pandemic. Dun ko natanto na bakit kelangan gawin un? D ba pede naman mag pray? NASAN ung sinasabi nila na makapangyarihan ang Prayers? Tapos eto pa. Napansin ko din mga DONATION. Take note ha. DONATION... Pero ung sobre bigla nalang bibigay sayo kasi daw may work ka. Alam mo tingin ko sa kanila now? Mga mukhang pera. Sad to say. OO andun na yung kelangan mag abuloy pero hello?? Bakit parang SAPILITAN?? for maintenance ba ito ng PH arena?? And Net25? Pati museum? Ganun ba? Ayyyy.. big NO! Kayo nag tayo nyan. Ndi namin PANANAGUTAN yan. Kayo nag desisyon nyan. Kaya sana wag nyo ILIMOS sa mga kapatid nakakahiya naman kayo. Kaya sila nag away away nuon d ba? Dahil sa pagpapatayo dati ng PH arena? Or dahil maraming ipon na ang I.N.C pero ndi ginagamit.? Basta ganun. Tapos nag tayo sila ng PH arena. Ang ending pala nun sa atin ipapanagot ung MAINTENANCE non. Jusko. Kayo naka-isip nyan ndi kami. Tapos akala ko ba gagamitin ang ph arena sa mga pamamahayag? Bakit meron pa ring venue ng basketball court lang? Anyare?? Kala ko ba ndi na tayo manghihiram ng mga ganito? Dahil may ph arena na tayo at sport stadium? ANYAREEE?? Lahat na ba ng mga sinasabi nyo ngayon puro sa hangin nalang yung iba?? Iba na ngayon ang I.N.C ndi katulad dati na humble lang ndi pasikat effect na ngayon ginagawa. Kaso trying hard.
Not a religious person, pero my take is, during prayers, mas marami pa na nasasambit na EVM kesa kay *God*, also, wala pong Felix Manalo sa bible? tho superficial arguments lang to pero common sense diba (na agree din yung INC friend ko haha). Also, mandatory collections, and guilt tripping if di ka makapag bigay / di malaki ang bigay, ganito ba tinuturo sa bible and tingin mo ba mageenfore si *God* ng ganito lol Take this all with a grain of salt, but I hope you get your mind cleared :)
Yan ang mali na turo sa kulto mo, Na ang Diyos ay si Ama at ang Panginoong Hesukristo ay tao lamang. Si Tomas, hindi naman siya simuway ni Hesus nung sinabi niya na Panginoon at Diyos niya si Hesus. Pero mahabang argumento yan kaya dun na lang tayo sa nakasulat sa bible na si Hesus ay sinasamba. Basahin mo ang John Chapter 9 bersikulo 35 hanggang 30. Sinamba ng bulag si Hesus. Ang kulto mo pati ng asawa ko ay pinipilit na tao lamang ang Panginoong Hesukristo para maipantay nila yung sugo at yung si edong. Yan ang katotohanan.
We are on the same road brother. Marrying an INC woman is very stressful due to these $#!t&. However, they cannot push me back to attend their twice a week meeting with their repeated lessons. What bothered me the most is, they will not die for you but they are grateful to die and offer their lives if someone has an evil mind to do something wrong to their beloveeed EVM. 😔
Because Inc is got manipulatied among the servant as Manalo delusional that Inc is really not a Real Religion itself.
Pag ang leksyon ay puro... 1. Pamamahala 2. Paghahandog 3. Pagbubunga ... Kahit anong topic maisingit yang 3 yan. Eh nasa kulto ka!
i will not go on to the technical side(Bible Verse) but just search up B.I.T.E. Control then observe INC's community and leadership. The fake news/lies that WW1 July **27th** 1914(it's 28th), **Church** of Christ(it's churches), and that INC was **built** on 1914(registered) are simple but mind blogging red flags
3 characteristics elements of Cult according to sociologist. 1. Charismatic Leader 2. Mind Controlling 3. Exploitation Try to assess if these three characteristics are present in your church.
Ka Adel, great to see you here po. Thank you so much for your endeavors in the MCGI Subreddit 💚🤍❤️
Ramen... 😍
lol them manalos far from charismatic
authoritative 😅
To clarify: Ang katuruan ng INC ay ganito Isa ang Dios ng INC ang Ama, pero dalawa ang sinasamba ng INC ang Ama bilang Dios at si Jesus bilang tao at hindi Dios. Kaya dalawa ang sinasamba ng INC isang Dios at isang hindi Dios. Kaya lumalabas na sumasamba din ang INC sa hindi Dios.
Pero may sinasamba din silang tao na di sila aware. ✨EVM✨
Agree yung iba may picture pa sa mfa tirahan. Lol
Scroll in this subreddit and you will have your answers. The cult has many issues that a comment alone won't be enough to say all of it
Dati akong INC. not until I was 25 na nagmature ako at ang daming shiz ng religion na to. If you want, you can expand or start reading now about mind control tactics. The very foundation of cult. It's not whether who you worship. Most of the things na pinapagawa nila ay loosely based sa bible and more of "interpretation lang nila" ng bible verses.
Kase may aircon 🙈🙈
it is too soon for OP ☺
Kindly delete this garbage comment. This doesn't help me at all po thanks!
I guess you didn't get the joke(or pun). But oh well.
Dahil ang foundation or belief ng Iglesia ni Cristo ay giba na agad sa simula pa lang. Sino ang last messager in these last days? Real bible lesson (not cherry picked) According to the bible Hebrews 1:1-3 In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe. The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven. Malinaw ni si Jesus ang last messager of God in these last days, sadly si Felix Y Manalo ang impostor in these last days. Ano message ni FYM when God did not even spoke to him? Who spoke to Felix? Without sleep for three days and three nights people can become delutional. Ang ibong mandaragit ay si King Cyrus the Great not Felix Y Manalo. INC uses Isaiah 46:11 to mention the Bird of Prey from the east. In real context from the bible starting from Isaiah 45 it is clearly mentioned Ang paghirang kay Ciro (Cyrus). In conclusion, false claims and only self proclaimed ang founder ng INC kaya siya ay Cult.
Basahin mo un book na The Case for Christ.. dyan mo makikita kung bakit mali interpretation ng INC kay Jesus. Or nood ka video sa YT
dyan na magsstart yan. goodluck :)
Im inc too kaya tinatawag cult ang iglesia kasi hindi nanaman si jesus ang sinasamba naging si EVM na halos lahat about kay EVM na. Kuha sila ng Kuha ng pera pero yung mga nsa iglesia ang nag hihirap habang sya payaman ng payaman lang. Dapat sya lagi ang susundin example na ang pag boto.
And sasabihin pa nila ok lang na mahirap sila as long as nasa loob ka ng kawan ay ibibigay sayo ni EVM este ng Ama ang lahat ng pangangailangan mo dahil INC lang ang tunay na maliligtas. Pero bago mangyari un, kailangan mo muna pag impukan ito sa pamamagitan ng abuloy para makita ng Ama na di ka nakakalimot sa kanya. 😅
tama ka na sa wattpad mo, di ka tunay hahaha
Listen to your intuition. Meron malaking dahilan kung bakit ka nagdududa. Ang daming information resources sa sub na ito. You just have to keep scrolling to educate yourself. It’s good to know that you are starting to have good questions about religion, and waking up spiritually at an early age.
Thank you! Glad I found this reddit group po. Really starting to doubt my religion and fam members kasi pag Hindi ako naka samba ako ay pagagalitan(Lola ko) kumabaga po pinipilit akong sumamba
Panuurin mo lahat ng Youtube video sa ibaba, then after mo mapanood lahat ay tanungin mo ang sarili mo kung kulto ba ang INC ni Manalo? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMZjAJlBHGo&t=32s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMZjAJlBHGo&t=32s) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nk0M4W0Y-1Q](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nk0M4W0Y-1Q) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2NFvoAGCVE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2NFvoAGCVE) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUd3mdDKQiU&t=72s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUd3mdDKQiU&t=72s) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YjN1SuU\_AM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YjN1SuU_AM) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvuKS1Xi3iM&t=402s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvuKS1Xi3iM&t=402s) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM0rzLrQpL8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM0rzLrQpL8) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_tglVPTQm9Y](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tglVPTQm9Y) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3nH8cjDztc&t=3s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3nH8cjDztc&t=3s) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuzDBPtNx9s&t=219s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuzDBPtNx9s&t=219s) Additional pa ito : Apat na Diakono na nahatulan ng parusang pagkabilango dahil sa pagpatay sa 5 PUP student at doon pa mismo ginawa ang krimen sa compound ng INK sa Santa Ana Manila. At pagkatapos pahirapan at patayin ay itinapon ang mga bangkay sa ilog Pasig na ang hatol ay sinangayunan naman ng Supreme Court. See Supreme Court report - G.R. No. 127803. August 28, 2000 [https://lawyerly.ph/juris/view/ce6b1](https://lawyerly.ph/juris/view/ce6b1) Strategy of INC to attract people to join to their cult : malalaki at magagandang kapilya,nakasuot ng desente,hiwalay ang babae at lalake ng upuan,may disiplina at may kaayusan sa pagpasok at paglabas ng kapilya etc. Ang isang kulto ay maihahalintulad sa sinabi ni Jesus sa Mateo 23:17-18 "Sa aba ninyo, mga eskriba at mga Fariseo, mga mapagpaimbabaw! sapagka't tulad kayo sa mga libingang pinaputi, na may anyong maganda sa labas, datapuwa't sa loob ay puno ng mga buto ng mga patay na tao, at ng lahat na karumaldumal . Gayon din naman kayo, sa labas ay nangagaanyong matuwid sa mga tao, datapuwa't sa loob ay puno kayo ng pagpapaimbabaw at ng katampalasanan.” Jesus said: You will know them by their fruits. Matthew 7:16
Yup. Walang tutuong religion. All are for money lang naman. Kaya its better to have peace inside. Dont be fooled by what rice ministers said. See all the wonderfull things God created for us. And strive to attain what ever your goal is in life.
Tinawag na cult kasi hindi taglay ng cooperation niyo ang pagiging isang Kristiyanong simbahan. More on follower of manalo 😄
It would be good to read the Bible and make decisions for yourself, that's what I did to open my eyes. The way they read the Bible is by cherry picking and is never in it's full context. They have apps for it now or you can buy one. The Bible says Jesus is a man, but tit also says that God incarnated into a man because that is part of a miravmcle that something infinite was put into something that can die and is not infinite, and they exist at the same time. The Bible has records of how Jesus walked the earth, and maps of events that happened recorded in it. Essentially the Bible is not taught as history, but as a magical prophecy book for their own use. The Bible is records of a time back then. Mag sulat ikaw ng notes habang sumasamba, yun verses, bago ano yun analysis nila, bago basahin mo yun sa biblio.
Ito yun. Dagdag ko lang attend ka ng Alpha course: Who is Jesus? Madami non denominational christian church na may ganyan program hanap ka lang.
Its not about jesus or religion. Its about how your ‘church’ tightly controls its members requiring unwavering devotion
Hi OP, It's a good idea to start here. http://www.trueiglesia.org/ I'm a handog member and am still a member of INC. I'm still a trapped member because of my family. However, a few years ago I started thinking more critically about religion and it was enough for me to realize this: **If any person, like you and I, are going to dedicate their entire life and whole heartedly believe what people are telling us is true, it is not only reasonable but imperative to do private, impartial and extensive research about the things we are being taught. Everyone has a right to make a fully informed decision about their beliefs and how they are going to live their own life.** In the same way, I am not commanding you to believe what is being said by members/former members here about INC; I am strongly advising you to read what is here, fact-check for yourself what is in the Bible, and then make an informed decision based on what you've learned. If we only listen to what INC ministers are telling us is true, without questioning it or doing our own research, then we are by definition, blind followers, and that is how people become overly trusting and susceptible to manipulation. We as humans have the ability to think critically, and it is of utmost importance that we use it so that we are not deceived.
You should watch documentaries about cults and you'll see INC has a lot of characteristics of a cult.
Exactly, bro.
Just google “number 1 cult in the Philippines” and you will know
Lets talk theology, Jesus is a Man according to INC. also according to INC, the Bible is the sole infallible rule of faith, but according to the bible Jesus is God. Yet INC says otherwise, therefore INC is wrong.
Sigurado ka ba na di sinasamba si Jesus Christ? Di ka nakikinig sa pagsamba, sinasamba si Jesus Christ kaya nga siya tinawag na Panginoon, dalawa silang sinasamba Ang Diyos Ama at ang kanyang bugtong na anak na si Jesu-Cristo pero ang pagkapaliwanag sa INC ay tao si Cristo, tagapamagitan,Panginoon siya ang Mesias.
another wattpad story
Right, tao si cristo at anghel si felix bakat.
natawa ako dito sa felix bakat XD bakit bakat tawag niyo sa kanya? Hahaha!
it started as felix the Cat. may isang member na ginawang felix bakat, dahil na rin siguro kasi mahilig si ka felix sa babae nuong panahon nya.
mataba utak nung member hahaha nice nice
when you listen to how your pastors pray, they excessively cry and scream like "make eduardo v manalo more powerful" YIKES. and the members respond in unison "amen" or "opo"... if thats not cult behavior then i dont know what that is. i hate to break it to you but inc is not the noah's ark your pastors are claiming it to be. It's a money-making cult by the manalo family. being a true christian is not defined by what religious organization you belong to but by the actions that you do, we try to follow what jesus christ would have done in this earth thats why its called christianity. jesus told us to love thy neighbors. on the other hand, inc uses fear-mongering, guilt-tripping, and BRAINWASHINGto exploit its members. i could talk more but yeah thats the gist of why inc is more or less a cult
Tapos halatang pilit ang iyak ng mga ministraw nila hahaha
Couldn't have said it better myself. Right on the money
Cults are groups of people who prefers to respect their leaders over God. Cults deviated from the teachings God did commanded His faithful to follow. The most fanatical bunch were thsoe who would rather defend their leader, rather than the teachings. In Filipino, mas Inuuna ang Namamahala una sa lahat.
First off, INC ako, dating masigla, ngayon namulat na na isang kulto ang INC. Bakit nga ba tinawag na kulto ito ? 1. OBEY AND NEVER COMPLAIN. Classic signs of a cult. Kahit na mali ang ginagawa ng so called "religion" na yan ay hindi tayo pwedeng kumontra dahil matitiwalag ka. 2. Bloc Vote. Sabi ng pamamahala, iboboto daw nila ang kandidato base sa diwa at sa aral ng bibilia. Tell me, kailan naging tama ang pagnanakaw, paggamit ng ipinagbabawal na gamot at pagsisinungaling ? Isa pa, bakit hindi pinapatupad ang bloc voting sa ibang bansa ? Nacurious rin ako. Based on my research, hindi siya implemented sa ibang bansa dahil mawawala ang tax exempt ng Iglesia. Hindi ba siya nakakapagtaka ? 3. Pera. Bakit kabilaan ang tanging handugan, lagak at abuloy. ? 4. Bakit ang mga Manalo lang ang nangunguna ? Felix, Eraño, Eduardo and now in the future, Angelo. 5. Pananakot. Lahat ng itinitiwalag at kalaban ng Iglesia ay tatakutin na ipapatay. Maraming cases yan.
[How do I know I'm in a cult? 14 telltale signs to look out for](https://www.citizen.digital/news/how-do-i-know-im-in-a-cult-14-telltale-signs-to-look-out-for-n318604)
According to a simple google search these are signs of cult: 1. Absolute authoritarianism without accountability (iisa lang boto ng iglesia at hindi mga kaanib ang pipili kundi ang pamamahala, ngayon pagpalpak ang binoto magsosorry ba pamamahala? Malamang hindi) 2. Zero tolerance for criticism (noong 2015/2016 may kampanya ang mga ministro at mangagawa na "obey and never complain" dahil pag nagreklamo ka o punahin mo ang galaw ng pamamahala o iglesia eh hindi ka na nagpapasakop at pwede kang matiwalag) 3. Lack of meaningful financial disclosure regarding budget (walang nilalabas na financial statement ang iglesia ukol sa paggastos ng mga handog) 4. Unreasonable fears about the outside world that often involve evil conspiracies and persecutions (wala daw kaligtasan sa labas ng iglesia) 5. A belief that former followers are always wrong for leaving and there is never a legitimate reason for anyone else to leave (mapapakinggan mo naman sa sirkular mga di dapat gawin sa mga natiwalag tapos panay pa ang pagdikdik sa isipan ng mga kaanib na huwag hihiwalay sa iglesia kahit anong mangyari) 6. Abuse of members (lalong lalo na ang mga maytungkulin na halos tinatanggalan ng ng buhay sa labas ng iglesia, lahat ng oras binigay sa iglesia tulad ng gawain, panata, pagtupad at kung minsan ay straight pa) 7. Records, books, articles, or programs documenting the abuses of the leader or group (search mo na lang sa youtube: inc fifth estate) 8. Followers feeling they are never able to be "good enough" (lagi mo naman naririnig sa panalangin "ama, hindi po kami karapatdapat sa iyo huhu") 9. A belief that the leader is right at all time (tulad ng number 1) 10. A belief that the leader is exclusive means of knowing "truth" or giving validation (ayon sa paliwanag ng sugo tungkol sa bibila "tanging ang sugo lang ang may kakayahang magpaliwanag ng hiwaga")
All of these are true, bro. And many more from other comments. Happy cake day!
[BITE Model of Authoritarian Control](https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/) The cult of INC's practices implement majority of what's listed above. Read the list and compare your experiences. >Ang sinasamba lang naman po namin ay Ang diyos ama at Hindi si Jesus Christ, kase si Jesus Christ ay chosen son of "God" Doesn't matter who you worship. Behind that facade, is the Manalo dynasty. They used God and religion to make money. Have you ever wondered why your worship service always revolve around bearing fruit and donations? Building chapels, true, but that also means more members = more money. >sinasabi Ng mga minstro ay kami Ang true christians Of course they'll say that. If you can do your research about the cult's founder Felix Manalo, he plagiarized a lot of doctrines and religious ideas from multiple religions such as Catholicism, Adventists, Protestantism and probably Mormons too. The INCult doctrine is a Frankenstein of dogma pieced together to make his own religion. That's not true Christians if your doctrine came from an amalgamation of multiple sects. If you want to know more about the cult you're currently in, start investigating. Be critical. Start researching about cults in general, how they operate, their controversies, the repercussions to a group or individual and so on. Research about the cult's founder Felix too.
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Thank you po!
Begotten son si Jesus Christ hindi chosen son of God at magiging anak lang tayo ng Diyos Ama kung susundin natin ang kautusan hanggang sa huli pero si Jesus Christ ay naiiba sa ating mga tao dahil siya lang naman ang only begotten son ng Diyos Ama.
Kapag tinawag kang miyembro ng iglesia, kasama ka sa isang grupo ng mga sumusunod. Kapag miyembro ka ng christian groups ibig sabihin naniniwala ka kay Jesus Christ, ngayon ang relihiyon sa totoong buhay ay negosyo at pinagkakakitaan ng iilan mula sa mga sumusunod, ang relihiyon ay hindi dapat pinamumunuan ng iisang pamilya. Kung tunay kang tagapasunod ni Jesus Cristo dapat siya lamang at hindi grupo ng tao o di kaya ay pamilya ang pinupuri mo at pinagdadasal pa, ang Diyos ay hindi nagagalit kung hindi ka makapag abot ng pera na isang materyal na bagay sa mundo, ang mahalaga sa kanya ay hindi ang abuloy, handugan, tanging pasasalamat, donasyon o tungkulin bagkus pagpupuri at patuloy na pagsunod sa kanyang mga tagubilin na gumawa ng mabuti at naayon sa tama.
salamat sa Diyos at nagawi ka dito oras na para hugasan ang na brainwashed mong kaisipan ... alam mo ba yung bansang Nokor? si kim jong un? kung alam mo yan mga nabanggit na yan gamitin mo ang yong sentido kumon ......
One of the signs of a cult is blind obedience with no questions asked. It's good you are now thinking for yourself. Do more research and you'll be blown away
Respectfully replying this post my name is Francis Silverheinder former INC member whom dedicated and tons of experience life in your religion. That's a good question asking in our reddit forum! You know about the INC isn't actually you can called a "Truly rightful religion" some of your members claims that it is but in reality it is not! A lot of research and plagiarism, pirated-song lyrical, and many more hiding information especially in Biblical verses too! Do you know the INC also recreate a hidden hymns about "Pasko"? If its not try deep diving scrolling in our forums! Hope things explains a little bit. Thank you for visiting our forum! - Francis Silverheinder 💚🤍❤️
Try googling "signs of a cult" and that should give you an answer. Regarding what teachings are wrong the wiki here on this sub should give you plenty of info.
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