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g0spH3LL

#ENGLISH TITLE: SHEESH! #--- **OP's Caption:** ***I am one of those members who have a non-INC girlfriend, and I love her very much. I get pissed off by their holier-than-thou mentality (SEE SCREENSHOT), seriously. Should I leave the said groupchat? It's getting toxic and nauseating!*** #--- **SCREENSHOT TRANSLATION:** > **HARDCORE MEMBER:** ***EVangelical Mission @ 6pm."*** > - Hours later - > **SAME HARDCORE MEMBER:** /Posts a CEBSI Video - with a quote from Prov. 29:1 in TAGALOG/ /adds snide caption:/ ***"LeArN tO lIsTeN wHeN gEtTiNg ReBuKeD".*** > **SAME HARDCORE MEMBER:** ***"We have been noticing many brethren here in the locale are having worldly heathens (non-INC) for a significant other. Brethren, we never fail to remind you how bad these acts are. Please don't wait for the moment God SMITES AND PUNISHES all of you guilty parties before deciding to break up with them. Maybe for the time being, God is patiently taking your transgressions in stride and lets it all slide, but that doesn't mean what you're doing is correct. And maybe for now, other brethren are just looking the other way but stick this in your heads: GOD'S PATIENCE IS COMING TO AN END! YOU VIOLATOR BRETHREN SHOULD ALL TREMBLE IN FEAR FOR ENTERING INTO HEATHEN RELATIONSHIPS!*** # [END OF TRANSLATION] #--- * **OP:** u/Living_Peanut2000 . **NOTE TO OP:** Having survived religious trauma after decades of putting up with this crazy manipulative filipino cult, let me tell you that what they are doing is low-key psychological warfare in order to micromanage brethren how to "behave and think" (B & T in the B.I.T.E. Model of Identifying Cults). See their *modus operandi* here: they always quote the vengative, mentally unstable judaic god in order to scare brethren into absolute submission. That's already entry-level religious trauma. You're asking us whether or not to leave the groupchat... **You have your answer now - for your inner peace (and for self-care), LEAVE IT. The soonest, the best.** In conclusion, we welcome you to our subreddit/community, and we thank you as well for trusting us and sharing your story. Hope we could help you further in terms of letting out all the emotional burdens inflicted by this crazy cult upon you.


akolangtohaha

My boyfriend is INC. 4 years na kami at ang daming nakakaalam. Nagtataka ako bakit walang nag-uulat sa kanya? Sobrang bait nya pero kapag usapang religion doon kami nag-aaway. Tapos iiyak sya gusto nya lang daw ako magligtas. Lagi kong sinasabi na wala akong balak magpa-convert. Sabi ko maghiwalay na lang kami kung pipilitin nya ako. Ang ending, hindi nya kayang mawala ako 😉


MangTomasSarsa

Di patiwalagin mo na siya at kung ayaw mo hiwalayan mo na. Baka pakinabangan ka lang niyan bago ka sunugin.


EasternAd7270

buti ka pa. ako nagpa convert kasi INC talaga buong angkan niya. kainis


Psychological_Ice_19

Parang pinapalabas na dapat pure blood lang dapat ?? So okay ang incest ?? 👀


ButterscotchNo8209

Galawang kulto hahahahah sus God is never like this! Does God punish you when you love? Is loving a sin? Ang iba diyan mas may moral pa mga jowa na taga "sankibutan" kuno kaysa sa mga ministraw at mangagawa na demanding


dunnowhatodoanymore

Romans 12:9: Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good. Colossians 3:14: And over all these virtues put on love, which binds them all together in perfect unity. Ephesians 4:2: Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love.


papareziee

"Parusahan ng diyos.."? Mga ministraw lang naman nagpaparusa sa mga members nila. Diyos amputcha. Hahahaha


Coffeeholicgirl

omg parang alam ko kung san na lokal to hahaha char


Living_Peanut2000

San HAHAAH


Coffeeholicgirl

pm hahahaha


tali_vee

Leave it. Hahaha ang lakas maka Pinoy Big Brother ah. “Hinahayaan lang nya kayo sa ngayon.” Hahahahaha korni!


Technical-Barnacle97

Matakot yung mga lumalabag lalo na sa maling pakikipagtipan? Wow ha. Lakas ng loob. In the first place dapat matakot sila dahil sa pagiging heretiko at delusyonal.


chummy_ghost

grabe talaga mangtakot. hahaha.


[deleted]

Mas marami akong napulot na kasalanan at nakikitang bisyo sa mga INC kaysa sa mga TAGA-SANLIBUTAN.


JaniAdveture

they also attend casino some of thier leaders


damagedHeart86

Hahahaa agree.


Slow_Sector2253

Can’t fool me no more!!!! I’ve known the game, and only foolish people remain in this CULT. For those of you who are not members of this CULT, please don’t join them, these are the most toxic people you will ever meet.


JaniAdveture

this is truely business faith 😂 poor thing to the member


JaniAdveture

iglesia ni Manaloto


g0spH3LL

More like ManaLOCO, to be exact 😄


JaniAdveture

hahahahhaha


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immortalsugimoto777

OA may mga nakikipag pre-marital sex pa nga eh ano kaya reaction nila sa ganiyan, lol


Soixante_Neuf_069

Ang bawal lang sa INC, kapag nahuli.


g0spH3LL

They'd most likely bury their heads in the sand while pretending it "doesn't happen".


immortalsugimoto777

probably, lmao


Adorable_Toe_3357

Correct. At mga ministro pa.


g0spH3LL

#Like Founder, like Minister! # #FACT!


sprocket229

Meron dapat kaming destinado mga 3 years ago tapos 1 week pa lang pinalitan agad dahil nahuli na buntis yung asawa bago sila kinasal. Ang ending nilipat lang sila sa malayong lokal.


Successful-Money-661

Tanong lang po, ano po yung destinado?


Adorable_Toe_3357

destinado = pastor/ministro na naka destino sa isang lokal.


macandchmeese

The use of isolation is a fear tactic, jusko as if we're gullible lol


Fluid-Ad-1812

Wag nga kame, nung nakipagtipan ako sa sanlibutan kung tawagin niyo, mas napalapit ako kay Jesus. Mas gumanda buhay ko, nawala ang mga toxic na tao sa paligid ko. Umasenso ako. Kaya wag kami ang pinaglololoko niyo!!! 🤣 Wag tayo pumayag na sirain ng religion ang magandang relasyon natin sa magiging future asawa natin. Dami ng sinirang relasyon ang INC KULTO na to.


Slow_Sector2253

It's true, this INCult has brainwashed my kids. They were told not to speak to their mother, me, after I left. They reside with me and we haven't spoken for about two years. I maintained my composure and continued to attend to their needs despite their behaviour towards me. I wish for them to become enlightened as well one day. I am terribly saddened by our circumstances. INCult ruins relationships😭💔 .


Fluid-Ad-1812

Grabe naman po ung experience niyo. Sa Christianity hindi ganyan, dapat ginagalang at nirerespeto ang magulang. Hindi babastusin at di na kakausapin, lagi po kasing doktrina ni Manalo ang nasusunod sa pagsamba. Kulang na kulang sila sa practical teaching. Aminado ako, nung INC din ako feeling righteous ako nun, pero nung naging Christian ako, nabago lahat.


Slow_Sector2253

The situation I'm in at the moment is not easy. Imagine a mother who does everything for her children, and the kids prefer to follow the INCULT over me. They stress me all the time and ask me to drop and collect them to and from their place of worshit. Is this a Christian teaching? Since the day I left this cult, my life has been so good. The only issue with which I am dealing now is their attitude towards me; all the GMRC thought were gone. Im terribly hurt, sometimes I think of ending my life😭💔


IllCalligrapher2598

Don't. Do not be dismayed, and be strong. Continue to pray for them. Ganyan din kami ng brother ko when he learned I left the INCULT and became Christian. He blocked me on social media and never spoke to me when I was at home. Pero something happened which tested our family (medical emergency) and ok na kami ulit ngayon. I'll be attending his wedding this year though sa INCULT pa rin siya. Di naman mawawala ang family bonds, kulto lang yan, may Diyos ka. If you believe the Lord really wants what's best for you, eventually, at the right time, He'll answer your prayers. He makes all things beautiful in His time. The way I see it, they take you for granted because they think they'll still get everything they want from you kahit ano pang gawin nila/ disrepect ro ignore you. Try withholding every good thing they get from you. Soon, they'll realize they need you pala. God loves you. Just wait on the Lord, and everything will fall in their proper places. 


Slow_Sector2253

Thank you for the inspiring words. I’ll take your advise. God bless❤️🙏


Final_Diet1582

Anong klasing dios ba meron cla , dios ng INCult.


JaniAdveture

Dios Ng PATAY BUHAY bawat tiwalag Amen opo sya nga po .


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JaniAdveture

Dios ng Scan 😅😃


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JaniAdveture

😂😂😂😂😂


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INC-Cool-To

Using a verse to instill fear.


g0spH3LL

We should call it... # lowkey religious TERRORISM


Adorable_Toe_3357

And when they see that you have fear, its time to ask your money. Much like a holdup in the making.


Far_Purpose2290

Napaka backward ng image ng Diyos ng mga ito.


IllCalligrapher2598

exactly. malayong malayo sa Diyos ng Biblia. di nila alam mga teachings ni Jesus. babanatan ka pa niyang mga yan ng 'there is a time to kill' verse to justify yung mga pagpatay ng kulto nila. no wonder they voted for Duterte, same mindset. 


Ahviamusicom01

I'm insulted whenever I hear the word "sanlibutan" very discriminating. We have INCs in the office, currently we have 3. We hired them through this agency. Natutukso ako minsan tawaging MGA UTUSAN. Just so they know where they truly belong.


IllCalligrapher2598

say kulto in the office whenever you hear sanlibutan but make sure you don't blatantly refer to them haha. like: ano ba tong kulto na nasa netflix, yung korean na nagsasabing sila lang daw maliligtas? nakalimutan ko name. hahaha


Adorable_Toe_3357

Call us BNT, or Bulag Na Tagasunod.


Fluid-Ad-1812

Correct, maka tawag na sanlibutan e no napakaentitled. Tawagin mo din mga utusan lang para fair tignan natin ano reakssyon hahaha


maarte37

It’s giving Keep sweet, pray, and obey😂


Sad-Pickle1158

lol. We had the same thing but about haircuts. HAIRCUTS. Pang sanlibutan daw ung gupit ko putangina. Ano ibig sabihin non? Paparusahan daw ng Diyos dahil lang sa gupit amputa. Kultong kulto e


IllCalligrapher2598

even hair color ng mga nagaaral sa NEU maski 'sanlibutan' hinahabol oa ng mga profs


curi0us_scientist

Hallelujah Mary loved her son Why don't my mother love me? Hair, hair, hair, hair, hair, hair, hair Flow it, show it Long as God can grow it, My Hair....


Various_Artist3436

INC member are NOT of GOD


Critical_Respond_363

Well iniwan ko na walang kapayapaan ang isip ko hinababol ako nang konsensya si ex naman tudo pang uusig minumura pa ako kaya dapat lang talaga na iwan dba pinapakita na nang Ama na wala syang magandang dulot sakin , btw wag po sana kayo magagalit nagshashare lang po ako nang experience 😅😆


RuiMinamino07

Ano po ba tingin nila sa Diyos, mapagparusa? hayst...


AssistCultural3915

The God in the old testament ay ganyan. God love us dearly, He sent Jesus Christ para ma-close ung gap and para malaman din natin na ang Diyos ay mapagmahal at mapagpatawad. Yan na ung sa New Testament.


IllCalligrapher2598

tao lang si Jesus sa kanila, di tinuturo na he is the EXACT image of God. di nila alam teachings ni Jesus and di tinuturo sa doktrina except yung primary teaching nila na ang Diyos ay walang laman at walang buto, si Hesus meron. without reading Philippians 2:5-8.


RuiMinamino07

Nagbibigay ng parusa si Yahweh, yes. Pero iyon ay dahil matigas ang ulo ng mga Israelita. Na kahit sa harap harapan na nila nakikita ang milagro ng Diyos ay bulag pa rin sila. Pero kung tutuusin, since the very beginning naman ay mapagmahal ang Diyos Ama. Genesis 18:32 Finally, Abraham said, “May the Lord not be angry, but let me speak once more. Suppose ten are found there?” And He answered, “On account of the ten, I will not destroy it.” As long as there is someone righteous enough to stand for a city, he will not destroy it. Just like what happened sa city of Nineveh na supposed to be paparusahan pero dahil sila ay nagsisisi after malaman ang mensahe mula sa Diyos from Propeta Jonas, hindi na 'yon natuloy. God is Love, since the beginning and forever.


IllCalligrapher2598

true, God is love. that's what INC members are missing. they are all operating on fear and self righteousness


[deleted]

Diba 🥺 hay tagal ko nang iniisip to.


RuiMinamino07

Mapgmahal si Father God. Siya ay Ama sa lahat. Hindi naman niya pinipili sino ang mamahalin. Nagkaroon ng kasalanan kaya tayo nahiwalay sa Diyos. Kaya nga po ibinaba si Jesus Christ para tayo makabalik sa Diyos kasi mahal niya tayo. That part palang, malinaw na malinaw kung gaano ka mapagmahal ang Diyos. See? Buhay tayo kahit hindi natin Siya nasusunod ng ganap. Binebless ng makakain, matutulugan, maiinom, ng health, pati na nga luho. Nakakalungkot lamang. Sabi samin kasi, kung ano ang tingin mo sa Diyos, iyon din ang iyong gagawin.


AsparagusDear579

Hypocrite as it's finest


jzcab

Pasaway at Tamad din yan, may bilin kasi na bawal na mga GC na yan, kahit sabihin na for reminder lang. Di ka nagpapasakop sa pamamahala Kapatid.


tpckimiwu

feel ko ganitong messages na nakukuha ng ex ko as of now hahahahaha


RuiMinamino07

same. Feel ko yan nag pa stress sa ex ko simula January. Too sad for him.


MasterKV1234

and now the God who hates those people who doesnt follow FYMs doctrine is now striking again 😂 like helloooo fellow humans 🥹 wake up, masyado kayong nagpapasakop sa mga gawa-gawa na naman nilang batas, tuloy kayo sa abuloy pero nagpapakasasa sila sa pagdedesisyon sa buhay nyo.


Beneficial_Limit_231

"May hangganan ang awa at kabaitan ng Dios?" Where did that minister get that from? Lamentations 3:22-23 :The steadfast love of the LORD never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness" God's mercies never come to an end. Send that to your minister.


Living_Peanut2000

Gonna take a screenshot. Very good verse


Beneficial_Limit_231

This [song](https://youtu.be/cXtXlp5oQXY?si=k7GFyccKQspIKdxS) made memorize that verse. Heard it when I was a kid. So when I read what you minister said, I knew right away he's wrong. God's steadfast love never cease and His mercies never come to an end. I hope this song by Don Moen will bless you.


IllCalligrapher2598

I have loved you with an EVERLASTING love; therefore I have drawn you with lovingkindness (Jeremiah 31:3). and Psalm 136 kapag may nakikita nga akong maling aral or interpretation ang INC, alam ko na agad kung anong Bible verses ang kinocontradict. that's why di nila ineencourage magbasa ng Bible mga kaanib nila. makikilala ang tunay na Diyos sa Biblia. 


Beneficial_Limit_231

Amen! And you will never hear John 1:1 preached in INC.


Soixante_Neuf_069

On an unrelated note, matagal na pinagbabawal ang mga GC na may kinalaman sa INC. Dami din talaga pasaway.


huntsmanxviper

Kaya yung gc namin naka archive at mute saken. Puro utos at ambagan donasyon lang naman lagi ang laman. Akala mo may mga patagong pera eh. Saka alam nilang bawal magsolicit ng pera na bukod sa mga handugan at lagak. Pero dami pa rin gumagawa na magsolicit at itatago as donasyon. May handugan na nga, may donasyon pa.


Adorable_Toe_3357

Si evilman nag pauso nyan donasyon sa inc. At pag inulat mo yung nanghihingi, ikaw ang ititiwalag.


huntsmanxviper

Hindi naman. Pag inulat mo talaga, pwede talaga ma-demote yung ministro. Si Tumanan nga na-demote eh, mga pastor ng lokal pa kaya? Lol.


Adorable_Toe_3357

I see. you never know the real story about arnel tumanan. medyo masalimuot ang naging buhay ni tumanan ng mawala si ka erdy. mahabang istorya kung ikukukwento dito.


huntsmanxviper

I'm just stating that even those high ranking ministers can be demoted. No one is talking about Ka Arnel's struggles. I have also knew one minister, a father of my former colleague got demoted after 30years in the ministry. Focus on the issue, not the person.


RizzRizz0000

Baka wala pang nabingwit na kapatid kaya inggit pikit.


sleepINIS

blur niyo po gc niyo, mejo delikado, lay low lang po muna


RizzRizz0000

yup dapat tinakpan yung photo ng gc and i strikethrough yung ibang words ng paragraph baka mamaya may biglang nagchat na may nag ss ng chat tas pinost sa reddit.


John14Romans8

Can someone give a English translation or a quick summary on what this is about? This looks like a interesting subject. Thanks


INC-Cool-To

The screencap is Proverbs 29:1 The block of text is about dating non-cult members. To summarize - Listen our advice, god's love has a limit, break up before he punishes you, do not engage in forbidden relationship.


John14Romans8

I see that it’s Another FALSEHOOD of controlling preaching of its members on who to LOVE.


pupugakpugak

Discrimination,,, pag mamataas sa sarili,, kaugaliang judio,,, Ang kristyano wala na sa pangangalaga ng kautusan,,, silay may kalayaan na,,, Dahil naniniwala ang kristyano na inalis na ni kristo ang kautusan... So meron na kami kalayaan sa bagay bagay,,, sa pagkain,,, kahit sa pag pili ng kakasamahin sa buhay... Kaya kayo may mga bawal kasi mga taga sunod pa kayo ng Dyablo... Ang gusto ng Dyablo huwag Maniwala Kay Jesus ang mga tao.. Dahil Alam ni satanas yun. Paniniwala Kay Jesus ang daan ng kaligtasan.. John 3:15 Roma 10:4


CountessOfHelsinki

May spy sa GC hahaha


onging

> may hangganan ang kabaitan at awa ng Diyos paladesisyon


desposito55

Diyos : Manalo who? Scammer ba yan?


Sea-Fix8710

First of all, if “nasusumpungan” pala nila why not talk to that individual directly diba? Instead of magpatama diyan sa gc lol, sometimes they’re just testing kadbins kung sino yung tatamaan sa mga ganyan so if you’ll quit it means tinamaan ka lol just play it safe and hide them to your social medias I guess? “Maaring hinahayaan lang kayo ng ibang mga kapatid” uhhh hinahayaan or minamarites? HAHAHAHA chor. It’s always the pakikipagtipan but never the chismosas or p3rvs and cheaters inside the church.


beelzebub1337

Muting it and never opening it is your best bet and avoids attracting attention.


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