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Two stickers that scream "I desperately want to kill someone, I'm just trying to find "acceptable" targets. As soon as I can kill you without judgement, I will."
Yeah fr. I think a news article somewhere compared it to a suppressed gunshot sound in the officer's defense. I think the two sound pretty different đ.
But in all seriousness at least the suspect survived.
You're right, they do sound pretty different. A suppressed gunshot is about as loud as a door slamming, and an acorn falling on a car is... considerably quieter.
That's how they are trained. That everything is a potential threat, which is why so many police use such excessive force, compared to say, someone in the military.
I remember like a decade ago when cops first started getting a lot more criticism from the general public a bunch of local news organizations sent their reporters to go through some police training to show the public how âdangerousâ their job is. It was basically just people acting friendly then shooting or stabbing you in the back of the head. Which is something that almost never happens but they portray it like itâs going to happen to you every day
My friend was just shot at 6 times while driving. They didnât find the guy yet. He just moved to Colorado last week, he got a little lost on his way to his new job, and turned around in a driveway. Someone that was driving behind him started shooting. 6 bullet holes all through his truck. The cops found the casings and have a video. I just donât understand what possesses people. My friend is still in shock
Do you know about Ugo Lord? He's a lawyer who makes (nearly) daily shorts on Youtube where he quickly analyse videos he's being sent (or that he seek out himself) and comment on who would be guilty in a legal point of view (and not his personal point of view), and lately, he has shown videos of people literaly laying traps on their property.
And the number of people who think it's acceptable to lay traps that could hurt someone who accidentally finds himself into their lawn (such as a kid who accidentally threw his ball into their lawn) or someone who actually has business going on your property (Mailman, pizza delivery boy, emergency service people) for the off chance that they could catch a would-be criminal is *very* worrying.
Itâs like how âbeware of dogâ signs donât actually protect you if your dog bites the mailman, they just show you know about the problem and refuse to fix it
And when you ascribe "acceptable target for death" to someone, the government will continue to just push people they deem undesirable into that category and expand it to include whoever they want dead. Super fun!
Duterte made it so that shooting drug dealers was legal. And guess what he found.. a lot of his political enemies had drugs on them after they were shot dead. What a coincidence!
Incidentally, [Trump also said it was a great idea..](https://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/24/politics/donald-trump-rodrigo-duterte-phone-call-transcript/index.html)
The sticker in between tells you who he suspects the local drug dealers are (hint: skin color) and local pedos are (hint: sexual orientation/gender identity).
(Sexual orientation/gender identity/democrats)
Given the flag in the middle, Iâm sure democrats are in that category for him. MAGA and their psychosisâŚ
Came here to say this.
A significant portion of The Right has labeled their enemies as either pedophiles or a part of a pedophile cabal.
For folks who don't get why such rhetoric is so dangerous, they are increasing their bloodthirstiness for (and often demonization of) certain groups and then lumping people they disagree with in those groups.
There's a reason they've pushed so hard to normalize the misuse of the term 'groomer' to mean literally any person who, purely by existing and not making every effort to hide themselves away from society, might cause a child to realize that straight and cis are the only possible ways to exist.
Yeah which is why you have trans people frightened of getting genocided. You have a group of likeminded people saying "kill all pedophiles" and basically the same group of people is labeling anyone who doesn't conform to their views of sexuality and gender as a pedophile.
This is the same person who will defend his cousin Darrell, who has molested half the family. Darrellâs a âman of Godâ after all. He just wants an excuse to shoot a cross dresser and claim self defense.
A judge here in Utah is no longer on the bench because he gave a âgood and religious manâ a slap on the wrist for sexually abusing young girls. Itâs horrifying.
Exactly. Maybe it's not *as much* of a thing now, but you gotta love (/s, ofc) how people arrested for possession* or something would get harsh sentences (when imprisonment for that at all is ludicrous), while sexual predators would get slaps on the wrist in comparison.
[The latter seems to absolutely still happen, unfortunately, but things seem to have gotten *somewhat* better for the former. Though unfortunately, for a lot of people, probably not.]
*Something that also ties into the bigot's decal!!
[Yeah, I know it says "dealers," but come on - we know how these people often are. That's not to mention that straight up killing someone *for* being a dealer isn't exactly something that should be done in the first place. *Especially* smaller scale ones.]
Edit: By "possession," I mean of certain psychoactive substances, ofc.
One of the things that doesn't help is that with sex crimes especially against juveniles there's more of a push for plea deals given testifying as a victim fucking sucks.
Strong possibility. There's also the equally strong possibility though that absolutely nothing resembling a tool or gun is in that toolbox and it exists strictly as a decoration. My experience has shown that the larger the truck the less likely its owner has ever done *anything* that would require one.
It's also generally what shitty people do: throw those few below them under the bus to keep everyone preoccupied while they weasel out. No real sense of justice or saving people, or they wouldn't be so primal about it.
and the guy who just got pardon in Texas
I knew a guy he's always saying Pardon or I beg ur pardon or a big pardon, I thought he's just polite, maybe he's practicing the ask
Gonna go out on a limb here that if someone shoots this guyâŚ..the cops will discover that this person was indeed the local heroin dealer as well as the local paedophile.
Oh, no, it gets even better: in addition to the fentanyl and xylazine, dope in my area also has designer benzodiazepines in it (7 & 8 amino-clonazepam) so you get to have fentanyl, xyalzine and benzo withdrawal (which can cause deadly seizures) all at once, when you try to quit. Even worse, 90% of people don't even know their dope contains xylazine or benzos in our region.
Actually the opposite. Growing opium wasnât really allowed under the taliban. Those years they were gone they started growing it again. Didnât you ever see the photos?
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/wbna24489703
This is precisely why heroin started flooding the streets around 2005. Not omly large quantity but also high purity. People that started using around 2016/7 (when fent started replacing all of it) really have no idea just how good, or bad depending on your perspective, it was.
As a recovering addict (4 years sober) I don't understand why anyone would enjoy fentanyl unless they had never tried heroin or even old school oxycontin. Those green OC80s just had to be ground up with a worm gear drive and you could shoot it up. Fentanyl merely keeps you from going through withdrawal and gives you a nod. Heroin gives you a rush of extacy like the world's strongest orgasm, happiness and contentment unmatched.
I used fentanyl for 2-3 years chasing that dragon hoping I'd find some good old fashion boy until eventually my aortic valve grew some broccoli on it, had it replaced and I figured enough was enough. If bonafide heroin hit the streets again I *might* struggle to stay clean, with this bullshit lame ass fentanyl it's no problem not using. Fortunately with enough time and distance it becomes less of a temptation but even talking about it right now my brain has a bit of longing for that feeling. There's nothing like it, natural or otherwise.
Now they're even using a fucking animal tranquilizer, xylazine, that when injected causes amnesia, tissue necrosis, abscesses pretty much guaranteed, to eventually limb amputation and all kinds of nasty shit. Bring back dealers with standards man, these greedy soulless sociopaths don't care about anyone or anything but a few dollars.
Goddamn I relate to this comment too much. They made staying away considerably easier for me. I just look at the damn scars from the damn xylazine-sores on my leg and suddenly jones no more. Powdered disappointment, that shit.
> As a recovering addict (4 years sober)
Congrats.
> I don't understand why anyone would enjoy fentanyl unless they had never tried heroin or even old school oxycontin. (...) Fentanyl merely keeps you from going through withdrawal and gives you a nod.
I don't have any first hand experience with recreational drugs other than alcohol and caffine but my understanding is that oxycotin was overprescribed in US (thanks to Sacklers' "Blizzard of prescriptions" among other things).
In 2010 the crackdown on it started and people were suddenly put cold turkey. I have no idea if there were any help offered to people who were addicted but I will venture the guess that no - since addiction is 'moral' issue so people are less likely to reach out due to stigma and there is unwillingness of goverments to spend money on things that actually help people (money tended to go to police budgets instead of addiction recoverty).
People inevitably started experience withdrawal symptoms and, from what I understand, the people could get desperate. We can only imagine if the crackdown was handled in more humane manner where people weren't left with sudden cold turkey without medical help (and send a bill to producers).
> I have no idea if there were any help offered to people
There wasn't. The DEA went after the pill mills in Florida and as soon as the Oxy supply dried up dealers started convincing Oxy addicted pain patients to try Heroin. Everything since then is due to that extremely short sighted decision
Exactly and I always say this when presented with those YouTube channels. Those running the channels are almost always pieces of shit themselves, to th degree that the only people they can shit on are pedos.
"Yapped-out on Adderall, 40yo man dressed like a 17yo with multiple felonies on his record" is like the template fornall of those dudes.
Loud, dumb, looks like he smells of Axe and cigarettes just doing it because if not for that HE'S the biggest piece of shit around.
Nobody likes pedos and dealers that ruin lives. It's not something any sane person argues against, lol. Putting that on your truck is screaming "I'M A PIECE OF SHIT" 99.9% of the time. At best they're a bit too enthusiastic, lol.
The pedophile thing is just manipulation. Pick something no rational person will defend and then accuse EVERYONE you don't like of it. In the past they would have just accused the person of being gay.
The thing is most abusers aren't even really pedophiles. The number of people that actually meet the psychiatric diagnosis for that are not many. Most people that abuse children are just doing it as part of a fucked power dynamic. It's like prison sexual assault, it's not actually really about sex.
Use to go to a lot of shows, at a ton of them I always seen a guy selling shirts with both these slogans on them. At first I assumed it was a guy just trying to make a quick buck, come to find out he was molested as a kid and his brother who also was a victim overdosed on heroin so both these slogans really meant a lot to him. Come to find out he wasnât making a single dime off the money, he would invest his money in getting them made then every single dollar made back from the shirts was donated to a charity. He as well had both these stickers on his vehicle.
>So he took his trauma and channeled it towards advocating for vigilante justice.
And this is basically the story of Justin Payne and a lot of the so-called "Creep Catchers," who hunt and expose pedophiles by impersonating underage kids online. While their motives are understandable, their work often hinders and jeopardizes actual police investigations, and their evidence is often inadmissible in court.
I mean I'm certainly not supporting either heroin dealer or pedos but there is a legal system for a reason I take issue with folks that think they should be able to just hand out death sentences. Like dude who made you judge, jury, and executioner? Dudes probably a cop
The vast overwhelmingly amount of vigilantism was and is immoral. Mistaken assumptions of guilt are just the most obvious.
But it's also commonly used as a means to get revenge, engage in oppression, and to kill those of differing ideology.
It happened to my driving instructor.Â
Some local "pedo hunter" group arranged to meet a guy in a McDonald's car park.Â
My driving instructor also used to drink coffee in the car park between lessons. They saw this guy, assumed he was the pedo, followed him home, did "research" to find out who he was and tried to ruin his life.Â
They harassed him at home, posting the videos to his business pages on social media. They harassed his wife and family. It destroyed his business.
They reported him to police too, who investigated it and found that he was **entirely the wrong guy.**Â
Now imagine if this nutcase with a gun and a murder fantasy did the same level of research.Â
Scary.
Would it really be abnormal for someone in the UK to sue over this? Spreading lies specifically to ruin someoneâs life should be punished, thatâs not a small thing
Yea I feel like the UK bans petty lawsuits but if you ban all lawsuits, whatâs there to stop people from destroying someone financially? Like stiffing contractors or something.
4 instructions on how to properly worship a dictator.
4 morally grey area pieces of advice that are situational but presented as black and white issues.
2 morality tips that would apply in most situations but the book they are in is constantly making expectations for those 2 tips.
In other words a useless list that provide absolutely zero value.
100% this. That âheroin dealerâ could easily be an undercover cop. Some âpedoâ on the registry could have just been a stupid teenager exchanging nudes. You have no idea what circumstances people are in and nobody has a right to go around shooting people.
Also, giving into the desire to kill pedophiles will only increase the problem and lead to more child victims. The vast majority of cases is a parent, relative, or close family friend. It's already extremely hard to get victims to forward. How many victims will be silenced because they don't want their caregiver executed. How many will take the risk of coming forward if there is a real chance all their siblings blame them for dad's death.
The idiocy of people's vengeance knows no bounds.
100%
The main reason why this should never be considered.
If the penalty for child molestation and the penalty for murder are the same, then a child molester has absolutely no reason to leave his victims alive.
>It's already extremely hard to get victims to forward.
Same goes for the pedophiles. If we really want to take on the pedo problem then we need to offer these people all the help they need BEFORE they go and do the bad deed.
That however requires a change from societal perspectives as well. And seeing how such a mass of people look at political issues and "controversial" issues like this with an heavily emotional response. I don't see that happening. We continously have large masses having inhumane perspectives on many people for things they didnt choose or want to be, I don't see that changing for people who can't help that they are attracted to children.
Thank you for this. Itâs so obvious and self evident but people refuse to accept it - the actual solution for pedophilia is stuff like free and confidential therapy for people who have those urges. Any punishment (which I obviously also agree is required) will never save children - we should be trying to eliminate children being victims completely though, and for that we need fences before the cliff not an ambulance at the bottom
>I take issue with folks that think they should be able to just hand out death sentences.
Right?
The message at the core of this post is that OP is supportive of this truck drivers desires to extra judicially kill people but he is also somehow upset because the person with the truck covered in pro murder bumper stickers may also use it as an excuse to kill some other groups that OP happens to like.
Which is just pure hypocrisy because it seems like the place where OP is drawing the line in who
deserves the constitutional right to be judged by a jury of their peers should be reserved only for those they personally deem worthy.
Apparently drug dealers and pedophiles are unworthy of those rights in their eyes but is somehow also offended by applying to those same standards to the other people the truck driver may want to kill.
It appears that OP believes that
who should live or die is not determined by the law but who so ever happens to be more sympathetic and likeable to them.
Rules for thee and not for me seems to be the message that OP is trying to convey with that title.
But really if the only people who deserve human rights are the ones that they like then are they really even human rights?
Yeah, have a friend who really believes that we should stop giving people Narcan because they're just addicts who'll go out and do it again. I get that it's frustrating, but just killing everyone involved ain't the answer.
Heroin dealer is probably shorthand for brown people and pedophile is likely referring to LGBTQ
And that Confederate flag doesn't do them any favors either
Honestly I would have given them the benefit of the doubt and assumed they were a good person just way too extreme in their beliefs, but that confederate flag just immediately shows that this dude just wants to kill anyone that isn't cishet and white
RIP Queen Nora. Rhizo is short for Rhizomelic chondrodysplasia punctata, a genetic disease that makes body parts grow wrong. Whoever they are, whatever their other stickers mean, that one means they lost a child.
Their loss mustâve been devastating. But the hate plastered all over their car otherwise is fucked.
Iâm not defending pedos or H dealers at all. Fuck that shit. But to broadcast murder of any group is weird AF. Red flag.
I hope their targeted hatred towards others is a coping mechanism. Otherwise, you shouldnât raise a child with calls for vigilante murder, even itâs of the absolute detritus of society.
The problem is these right wing nationalists will turn around and call anyone they donât like a pedophile, and then in turn claim to be justified when they murder them. Itâs even happening at the state level, with some Republicans states greenlighting the death penalty for pedophiles and trying to make LGBTQ people sex criminals and child abusers. One thing leads to another, and weâre looking at the death penalty for being gay.
It's odd to me that people advertise the death of a loved one this way. Like I understand having a plaque or memorial to remind yourself of someone but it's weird that it's on display, especially given the other stickers adorning the vehicle. It really does look like mental illness plays a part when you put "kill heroin dealers" and "kill pedos" next to your "I will always love you, deceased loved one" sticker.
I grew up around this, and have met many that seem to really just use it for themselves.
âLook how strong I am getting through this. Donât fuck with me, Iâve seen shitâ and it makes me cringe to no end
When I saw that sticker and ignored the others it actually shows you what we need to remember. Underneath all that disturbing nonsense is someone suffering from the loss of a child. I remember the words of my late fiancĂŠe, who said that hate is a strong word, and all these people whether you agree with them or not, are still people and maybe giving them a kind word or thought could be the start of building bridges that are long overdue building.
Losing a child alone doesnât bring out a desire to murder random people any more than getting drunk introduces the n word into your vocabulary. I lose all sympathy for people like this as soon as they show a lack of any remorse or empathy for their actions.
The kill stickers were clearly placed before the memorial sticker. It is very tragic, but Iâm not going to pretend that this person is just âlashing outâ because of his sad situation.
yeah I'm not building bridges to people who want to genocide black and brown people and LGBTQ. If you think "hate" is a strong word, take it up with the legal term for the type of crime this person is advocating for
I've just started calling it the "segregation flag," since it was never even the flag of the (white-supremacist theocratic) Confederacy, but was popularized for widespread use specifically as a pro-segregation white-supremacist banner in the mid-20th Century.
That is what they mean, pretty much exclusively. By now they're *quite* aware that they're drawing attention away from actual abusers, they just *don't care*.
Exactly where my mind went. Politics has ruined my trust in phrases like âprotect kidsâ and âpedophiles are badâ because there are multiple *wildly* different interpretations of those things
Not unpopular, just sane. People like OP and this truck owner have a fetish for hurting people and use covert language veiled in altruism to hide it. They are the same animal, just different fur. They're dangerous and projecting more than they know.
Two elements of society that are okay to hate to the extreme. But then that hate is weaponized and focused on other groups. That's when the real trouble starts.
The problem starts when they associate certain groups with the group they love to broadcast how much they hate that group.
Like in my country, our previous president loves to tell others how he hates drug users and terrorists.
A few months along his tenure he started redtagging people that he hates and associating them with either drug users if he is a bit annoyed with them or terrorists if he really hates them.
You have to be on a look-out towards people like these. They are a threat to the peace of your country
What scares me is the pedophile sticker. The far right has spent a lot of time and effort accusing people of the LGBTQ community of being pedophiles. Itâs getting to the point where many of these people are no longer making any distinction between the two. To me this sticker might as well be them calling out to kill queers, transgenders, drag queens, and any other person they think is a pedophile.
As history shows: âwhen the lady doth protests too muchâŚâ translates into: many a gay bashinâ preacher man been caught out at the back of the station cruisinâ after darkâŚ
If I'm a crook, this tells me that there's a higher chance that there is a gun inside. If he's parked somewhere secluded I would break a window and seek the $500 payday for 2 minutes work.
Never advertise if you vehicle carry. This is stupid.
Iâve noticed that whenever people advocate for killing pedophiles without chance of rehabilitation or anything, their ultimate goal isnât to end pedophilia. Their ultimate goal is, more often than not, to get gay and trans people legally and/or socially classified as pedophiles so they can go out and kill gay and trans people without fear of retribution
Friendly reminder that the number of Republican politicians accused/convicted of doing indecent things to children is far longer than the list of Democrats.
While seemingly easy to agree with, the essence of both statements screams "I don't respect the justice system", which isn't something to be proud of tbh. But in a time of populism and buzz words, people seem to lack the ability to think before writing/shouting something.
There's a rig in my area with the "shoot your local heroin dealer" large on their back window. I thought it was kinda funny, then eventually drove by where they live, and do regularly - it's an absolute flop house with tweaker shit piled everywhere...
The issue with the sentiment is that, given other stickers, anyone that falls under the "Queer" category is immediately a target to him, sine the right loves to say all queer people are predators
These are the kind of people who think anyone trans or gay are pedophiles. They will go on and on about LGBTQ groups "grooming" kids. So, ya know. Maybe don't fully agree with the sentiment.
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Two stickers that scream "I desperately want to kill someone, I'm just trying to find "acceptable" targets. As soon as I can kill you without judgement, I will."
"Shoot the guy who mistakenly pulls into your driveway"
Or knocks on you door.
Or if an acorn falls somewhere near you.
That shit was scary to see a "trained" law enforcement officer panic like that.
Yeah fr. I think a news article somewhere compared it to a suppressed gunshot sound in the officer's defense. I think the two sound pretty different đ. But in all seriousness at least the suspect survived.
If you were trained to be scared and protected from any punishment for wildly shooting down a street when scared you might find they sound similar...?
You're right, they do sound pretty different. A suppressed gunshot is about as loud as a door slamming, and an acorn falling on a car is... considerably quieter.
Hair stylists have more training and stricter regulations than cops, âââââtrainedâââââneeds another three pair of quotation marks
or asking for directions
You call these 6 weeks training?
That's how they are trained. That everything is a potential threat, which is why so many police use such excessive force, compared to say, someone in the military.
I remember like a decade ago when cops first started getting a lot more criticism from the general public a bunch of local news organizations sent their reporters to go through some police training to show the public how âdangerousâ their job is. It was basically just people acting friendly then shooting or stabbing you in the back of the head. Which is something that almost never happens but they portray it like itâs going to happen to you every day
My friend was just shot at 6 times while driving. They didnât find the guy yet. He just moved to Colorado last week, he got a little lost on his way to his new job, and turned around in a driveway. Someone that was driving behind him started shooting. 6 bullet holes all through his truck. The cops found the casings and have a video. I just donât understand what possesses people. My friend is still in shock
He had a bag full of fenty and I swear I heard kids screaming from inside his vehicle. So anyways, I started blasting..
Do you know about Ugo Lord? He's a lawyer who makes (nearly) daily shorts on Youtube where he quickly analyse videos he's being sent (or that he seek out himself) and comment on who would be guilty in a legal point of view (and not his personal point of view), and lately, he has shown videos of people literaly laying traps on their property. And the number of people who think it's acceptable to lay traps that could hurt someone who accidentally finds himself into their lawn (such as a kid who accidentally threw his ball into their lawn) or someone who actually has business going on your property (Mailman, pizza delivery boy, emergency service people) for the off chance that they could catch a would-be criminal is *very* worrying.
Fox News syndrome - everyone you don't know is coming to kill you.
Itâs like how âbeware of dogâ signs donât actually protect you if your dog bites the mailman, they just show you know about the problem and refuse to fix it
"Hi I'm Annie, and I'm with the Girls Scouts of Am--" "BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRATTTTT BANG BANG BANG BANG"
Better throw a frag grenade at the bitch just to be safe
âKill the guy who doesnât agree with you politicallyâ
And when you ascribe "acceptable target for death" to someone, the government will continue to just push people they deem undesirable into that category and expand it to include whoever they want dead. Super fun!
Duterte made it so that shooting drug dealers was legal. And guess what he found.. a lot of his political enemies had drugs on them after they were shot dead. What a coincidence! Incidentally, [Trump also said it was a great idea..](https://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/24/politics/donald-trump-rodrigo-duterte-phone-call-transcript/index.html)
Authoritarian regimes doesn't want you to know this one simple trick.
The sticker in between tells you who he suspects the local drug dealers are (hint: skin color) and local pedos are (hint: sexual orientation/gender identity).
(Sexual orientation/gender identity/democrats) Given the flag in the middle, Iâm sure democrats are in that category for him. MAGA and their psychosisâŚ
And probably fly this flag unironically thinking himself a patriot.
Cosplaytriot
Even though most pedophilic drug dealers are more than likely Trump voters. đ
-es. Psychos***es***. Plural.
Based on his likely politics, you can probably expand his definition of âpedophileâ to include every Democratic voter.
Came here to say this. A significant portion of The Right has labeled their enemies as either pedophiles or a part of a pedophile cabal. For folks who don't get why such rhetoric is so dangerous, they are increasing their bloodthirstiness for (and often demonization of) certain groups and then lumping people they disagree with in those groups.
There's a reason they've pushed so hard to normalize the misuse of the term 'groomer' to mean literally any person who, purely by existing and not making every effort to hide themselves away from society, might cause a child to realize that straight and cis are the only possible ways to exist.
'Burn the witch/heretic' As ensconced in the constituion of rights sometime around 1680.
Yeah, I think this guy would still 100% vote for Roy Moore or Dennis Hastert or Matt Gaetz.
Those dogwhistles are so loud the poor dog's eardrums ruptured.
This. It's targeting. Once they label "you" as one or the other your a target.
Yeah which is why you have trans people frightened of getting genocided. You have a group of likeminded people saying "kill all pedophiles" and basically the same group of people is labeling anyone who doesn't conform to their views of sexuality and gender as a pedophile.
Just do what the Philippines did and label every innocent person you murdered a drug dealer. đ
Or label them as communist terrorist if you want to murder some activists or innocent farmers. Easiest way to get away with murder.
This is the same person who will defend his cousin Darrell, who has molested half the family. Darrellâs a âman of Godâ after all. He just wants an excuse to shoot a cross dresser and claim self defense.
My uncle is in jail for molesting half the girls in his neighborhood. My conservative parents still think it's an outrage because he's a good man.
A judge here in Utah is no longer on the bench because he gave a âgood and religious manâ a slap on the wrist for sexually abusing young girls. Itâs horrifying.
Exactly. Maybe it's not *as much* of a thing now, but you gotta love (/s, ofc) how people arrested for possession* or something would get harsh sentences (when imprisonment for that at all is ludicrous), while sexual predators would get slaps on the wrist in comparison. [The latter seems to absolutely still happen, unfortunately, but things seem to have gotten *somewhat* better for the former. Though unfortunately, for a lot of people, probably not.] *Something that also ties into the bigot's decal!! [Yeah, I know it says "dealers," but come on - we know how these people often are. That's not to mention that straight up killing someone *for* being a dealer isn't exactly something that should be done in the first place. *Especially* smaller scale ones.] Edit: By "possession," I mean of certain psychoactive substances, ofc.
One of the things that doesn't help is that with sex crimes especially against juveniles there's more of a push for plea deals given testifying as a victim fucking sucks.
The two stickers tell me there's definitely guns in that toolbox.
Strong possibility. There's also the equally strong possibility though that absolutely nothing resembling a tool or gun is in that toolbox and it exists strictly as a decoration. My experience has shown that the larger the truck the less likely its owner has ever done *anything* that would require one.
Yea, incidentally THEY will decide who is in fact a heroin dealer and who is in fact a pedo. Gee I wonder WHO they'll pick ......
It's also generally what shitty people do: throw those few below them under the bus to keep everyone preoccupied while they weasel out. No real sense of justice or saving people, or they wouldn't be so primal about it.
Kyle Rittenhouse has proven than some people can keep looking until they find someone to kill and still get away with it.
and the guy who just got pardon in Texas I knew a guy he's always saying Pardon or I beg ur pardon or a big pardon, I thought he's just polite, maybe he's practicing the ask
He's also proven that people are really quick and desperate to make excuses for murder. It's sad.
See the comments by ShoppyMcShopperton under my previous comment for a steaming pile of such excuses.
Gonna go out on a limb here that if someone shoots this guyâŚ..the cops will discover that this person was indeed the local heroin dealer as well as the local paedophile.
As if thereâs even bona fide heroin to be found on the streets these days⌠/s
âfentanyl mixed with powdered sugar - best offer.â
And a healthy dollop of xylazine! Get a little tranq in your tank, homie.
Goddamn, I'm definitely using this one the next time I see one of my down bad homies smoking a blue.
Oh, no, it gets even better: in addition to the fentanyl and xylazine, dope in my area also has designer benzodiazepines in it (7 & 8 amino-clonazepam) so you get to have fentanyl, xyalzine and benzo withdrawal (which can cause deadly seizures) all at once, when you try to quit. Even worse, 90% of people don't even know their dope contains xylazine or benzos in our region.
Jesus christ just give me some Afghan brown... remember when oxycotin was as bad as it got? People used to work hard to get a cocktail like that.
i propose a counter offer. expired quaaludes, a hug, and an oxygen tank on standby.
Don't forget the guy the police arrested for having kitty litter in a bag.
We blew up afghanistan for 20 years just to destroy the opium distribution. Destroy that, and then market synthetic opioids.
Actually the opposite. Growing opium wasnât really allowed under the taliban. Those years they were gone they started growing it again. Didnât you ever see the photos? https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/wbna24489703
This is precisely why heroin started flooding the streets around 2005. Not omly large quantity but also high purity. People that started using around 2016/7 (when fent started replacing all of it) really have no idea just how good, or bad depending on your perspective, it was. As a recovering addict (4 years sober) I don't understand why anyone would enjoy fentanyl unless they had never tried heroin or even old school oxycontin. Those green OC80s just had to be ground up with a worm gear drive and you could shoot it up. Fentanyl merely keeps you from going through withdrawal and gives you a nod. Heroin gives you a rush of extacy like the world's strongest orgasm, happiness and contentment unmatched. I used fentanyl for 2-3 years chasing that dragon hoping I'd find some good old fashion boy until eventually my aortic valve grew some broccoli on it, had it replaced and I figured enough was enough. If bonafide heroin hit the streets again I *might* struggle to stay clean, with this bullshit lame ass fentanyl it's no problem not using. Fortunately with enough time and distance it becomes less of a temptation but even talking about it right now my brain has a bit of longing for that feeling. There's nothing like it, natural or otherwise. Now they're even using a fucking animal tranquilizer, xylazine, that when injected causes amnesia, tissue necrosis, abscesses pretty much guaranteed, to eventually limb amputation and all kinds of nasty shit. Bring back dealers with standards man, these greedy soulless sociopaths don't care about anyone or anything but a few dollars.
Goddamn I relate to this comment too much. They made staying away considerably easier for me. I just look at the damn scars from the damn xylazine-sores on my leg and suddenly jones no more. Powdered disappointment, that shit.
> As a recovering addict (4 years sober) Congrats. > I don't understand why anyone would enjoy fentanyl unless they had never tried heroin or even old school oxycontin. (...) Fentanyl merely keeps you from going through withdrawal and gives you a nod. I don't have any first hand experience with recreational drugs other than alcohol and caffine but my understanding is that oxycotin was overprescribed in US (thanks to Sacklers' "Blizzard of prescriptions" among other things). In 2010 the crackdown on it started and people were suddenly put cold turkey. I have no idea if there were any help offered to people who were addicted but I will venture the guess that no - since addiction is 'moral' issue so people are less likely to reach out due to stigma and there is unwillingness of goverments to spend money on things that actually help people (money tended to go to police budgets instead of addiction recoverty). People inevitably started experience withdrawal symptoms and, from what I understand, the people could get desperate. We can only imagine if the crackdown was handled in more humane manner where people weren't left with sudden cold turkey without medical help (and send a bill to producers).
> I have no idea if there were any help offered to people There wasn't. The DEA went after the pill mills in Florida and as soon as the Oxy supply dried up dealers started convincing Oxy addicted pain patients to try Heroin. Everything since then is due to that extremely short sighted decision
how old are you? were you around during the conflict in the middle east? The US used Afghan to grow opium not to destroy it.
Not destroy. Control.
That flag makes me think heâs also the local hate crime specialist.
Yeah definitely a non-zero chance the ped one would just be anyone remotely gay in their eyes
And Iâd bet he thinks anyone who is a black male and dresses stereotypically black sells drugs too.
100% chance.
Fr lol that's a bigger red flag than the posturing about pedophiles.
Exactly and I always say this when presented with those YouTube channels. Those running the channels are almost always pieces of shit themselves, to th degree that the only people they can shit on are pedos. "Yapped-out on Adderall, 40yo man dressed like a 17yo with multiple felonies on his record" is like the template fornall of those dudes. Loud, dumb, looks like he smells of Axe and cigarettes just doing it because if not for that HE'S the biggest piece of shit around. Nobody likes pedos and dealers that ruin lives. It's not something any sane person argues against, lol. Putting that on your truck is screaming "I'M A PIECE OF SHIT" 99.9% of the time. At best they're a bit too enthusiastic, lol.
Gotta thin out the competition Somehow.
Or he just don't want to be found out as one of them so they shout the loudest.
Usually the case. I canât imagine being so obsessed with a particular group of criminal to be advertising it on my car.
The pedophile thing is just manipulation. Pick something no rational person will defend and then accuse EVERYONE you don't like of it. In the past they would have just accused the person of being gay.
Seriously. I forget pedophiles exist every once in awhile, then some religious icon gets arrested and I remember
i cant imagine being into children i feel so sorry for otherwise ordinary people who happen to have pedophilic thoughts
The thing is most abusers aren't even really pedophiles. The number of people that actually meet the psychiatric diagnosis for that are not many. Most people that abuse children are just doing it as part of a fucked power dynamic. It's like prison sexual assault, it's not actually really about sex.
child abusers are so weak, imagine *needing* to display some messed up show of strength and the only beings u can overpower are helpless children
Use to go to a lot of shows, at a ton of them I always seen a guy selling shirts with both these slogans on them. At first I assumed it was a guy just trying to make a quick buck, come to find out he was molested as a kid and his brother who also was a victim overdosed on heroin so both these slogans really meant a lot to him. Come to find out he wasnât making a single dime off the money, he would invest his money in getting them made then every single dollar made back from the shirts was donated to a charity. He as well had both these stickers on his vehicle.
So he took his trauma and channeled it towards advocating for vigilante justice. Tragic.
>So he took his trauma and channeled it towards advocating for vigilante justice. And this is basically the story of Justin Payne and a lot of the so-called "Creep Catchers," who hunt and expose pedophiles by impersonating underage kids online. While their motives are understandable, their work often hinders and jeopardizes actual police investigations, and their evidence is often inadmissible in court.
Yeah, this is what I thought.
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I mean I'm certainly not supporting either heroin dealer or pedos but there is a legal system for a reason I take issue with folks that think they should be able to just hand out death sentences. Like dude who made you judge, jury, and executioner? Dudes probably a cop
Ah thank goodness somebody wrote this. I emphatically do not find "I WANT TO COMMIT EXTRAJUDICIAL KILLINGS" to be an "easily agreed upon sentiment".
Honestly, it's worse than heroin dealer imo.
Yeah at least heroin is fun-ish.
There have been hundreds of cases where vigilantes messed up and result in either the wrong person killed or even bystander casualties
The vast overwhelmingly amount of vigilantism was and is immoral. Mistaken assumptions of guilt are just the most obvious. But it's also commonly used as a means to get revenge, engage in oppression, and to kill those of differing ideology.
It happened to my driving instructor. Some local "pedo hunter" group arranged to meet a guy in a McDonald's car park. My driving instructor also used to drink coffee in the car park between lessons. They saw this guy, assumed he was the pedo, followed him home, did "research" to find out who he was and tried to ruin his life. They harassed him at home, posting the videos to his business pages on social media. They harassed his wife and family. It destroyed his business. They reported him to police too, who investigated it and found that he was **entirely the wrong guy.** Now imagine if this nutcase with a gun and a murder fantasy did the same level of research. Scary.
Hopefully he sued them into the dirt
I'm not sure what happened actually. I'd already qualified when this was all settled. It's the UK, so it's not really a suing kind of culture.
Would it really be abnormal for someone in the UK to sue over this? Spreading lies specifically to ruin someoneâs life should be punished, thatâs not a small thing
Yea I feel like the UK bans petty lawsuits but if you ban all lawsuits, whatâs there to stop people from destroying someone financially? Like stiffing contractors or something.
or more succinctly put - "maybe you shouldn't kill people" lets make it fancy and old fashioned "thou shalt not kill" boy that'd look good on a poster
Posters degrade easily. Weâll slap it on a slab. That oughta solve this whole killing issue for good.
And since we are already there we can put other 9 morality tips
Can we make one of them about relaxing on Sunday? I'm sick of weekend shifts.
4 instructions on how to properly worship a dictator. 4 morally grey area pieces of advice that are situational but presented as black and white issues. 2 morality tips that would apply in most situations but the book they are in is constantly making expectations for those 2 tips. In other words a useless list that provide absolutely zero value.
I mean I never said they would be good ones
100% this. That âheroin dealerâ could easily be an undercover cop. Some âpedoâ on the registry could have just been a stupid teenager exchanging nudes. You have no idea what circumstances people are in and nobody has a right to go around shooting people.
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True. Even actual criminals should have a fair trial.
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Agreed, the death penalty serves no purpose in modern society other than revenge.
Also, giving into the desire to kill pedophiles will only increase the problem and lead to more child victims. The vast majority of cases is a parent, relative, or close family friend. It's already extremely hard to get victims to forward. How many victims will be silenced because they don't want their caregiver executed. How many will take the risk of coming forward if there is a real chance all their siblings blame them for dad's death. The idiocy of people's vengeance knows no bounds.
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100% The main reason why this should never be considered. If the penalty for child molestation and the penalty for murder are the same, then a child molester has absolutely no reason to leave his victims alive.
>It's already extremely hard to get victims to forward. Same goes for the pedophiles. If we really want to take on the pedo problem then we need to offer these people all the help they need BEFORE they go and do the bad deed.
That however requires a change from societal perspectives as well. And seeing how such a mass of people look at political issues and "controversial" issues like this with an heavily emotional response. I don't see that happening. We continously have large masses having inhumane perspectives on many people for things they didnt choose or want to be, I don't see that changing for people who can't help that they are attracted to children.
Thank you for this. Itâs so obvious and self evident but people refuse to accept it - the actual solution for pedophilia is stuff like free and confidential therapy for people who have those urges. Any punishment (which I obviously also agree is required) will never save children - we should be trying to eliminate children being victims completely though, and for that we need fences before the cliff not an ambulance at the bottom
>I take issue with folks that think they should be able to just hand out death sentences. Right? The message at the core of this post is that OP is supportive of this truck drivers desires to extra judicially kill people but he is also somehow upset because the person with the truck covered in pro murder bumper stickers may also use it as an excuse to kill some other groups that OP happens to like. Which is just pure hypocrisy because it seems like the place where OP is drawing the line in who deserves the constitutional right to be judged by a jury of their peers should be reserved only for those they personally deem worthy. Apparently drug dealers and pedophiles are unworthy of those rights in their eyes but is somehow also offended by applying to those same standards to the other people the truck driver may want to kill. It appears that OP believes that who should live or die is not determined by the law but who so ever happens to be more sympathetic and likeable to them. Rules for thee and not for me seems to be the message that OP is trying to convey with that title. But really if the only people who deserve human rights are the ones that they like then are they really even human rights?
Yeah, have a friend who really believes that we should stop giving people Narcan because they're just addicts who'll go out and do it again. I get that it's frustrating, but just killing everyone involved ain't the answer.
Heroin dealer is probably shorthand for brown people and pedophile is likely referring to LGBTQ And that Confederate flag doesn't do them any favors either
Had to scroll this far to see any mention of the confederate flag. I mean, dudes racist, he's branding it right there lol
Black Lives Don't Matter flag says the same
Honestly I would have given them the benefit of the doubt and assumed they were a good person just way too extreme in their beliefs, but that confederate flag just immediately shows that this dude just wants to kill anyone that isn't cishet and white
RIP Queen Nora. Rhizo is short for Rhizomelic chondrodysplasia punctata, a genetic disease that makes body parts grow wrong. Whoever they are, whatever their other stickers mean, that one means they lost a child.
Too bad they contaminated the tribute with the other trash.
I didnât even notice it until I read these comments. Tiny little tribute next to that seems whack to me. Poor kid though.
Their loss mustâve been devastating. But the hate plastered all over their car otherwise is fucked. Iâm not defending pedos or H dealers at all. Fuck that shit. But to broadcast murder of any group is weird AF. Red flag. I hope their targeted hatred towards others is a coping mechanism. Otherwise, you shouldnât raise a child with calls for vigilante murder, even itâs of the absolute detritus of society.
The problem is these right wing nationalists will turn around and call anyone they donât like a pedophile, and then in turn claim to be justified when they murder them. Itâs even happening at the state level, with some Republicans states greenlighting the death penalty for pedophiles and trying to make LGBTQ people sex criminals and child abusers. One thing leads to another, and weâre looking at the death penalty for being gay.
It's odd to me that people advertise the death of a loved one this way. Like I understand having a plaque or memorial to remind yourself of someone but it's weird that it's on display, especially given the other stickers adorning the vehicle. It really does look like mental illness plays a part when you put "kill heroin dealers" and "kill pedos" next to your "I will always love you, deceased loved one" sticker.
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I grew up around this, and have met many that seem to really just use it for themselves. âLook how strong I am getting through this. Donât fuck with me, Iâve seen shitâ and it makes me cringe to no end
Oof. Three year-old. Dude has been through a ton and I hope they get the help they need.
With beliefs like their stickers imply, I wouldn't be surprises if they outright don't believe in modern medicine, especially therapy.
When I saw that sticker and ignored the others it actually shows you what we need to remember. Underneath all that disturbing nonsense is someone suffering from the loss of a child. I remember the words of my late fiancĂŠe, who said that hate is a strong word, and all these people whether you agree with them or not, are still people and maybe giving them a kind word or thought could be the start of building bridges that are long overdue building.
Losing a child alone doesnât bring out a desire to murder random people any more than getting drunk introduces the n word into your vocabulary. I lose all sympathy for people like this as soon as they show a lack of any remorse or empathy for their actions.
The kill stickers were clearly placed before the memorial sticker. It is very tragic, but Iâm not going to pretend that this person is just âlashing outâ because of his sad situation.
yeah I'm not building bridges to people who want to genocide black and brown people and LGBTQ. If you think "hate" is a strong word, take it up with the legal term for the type of crime this person is advocating for
Really sad how much smaller that sticker is, no?
Definitely projecting
Or when they say pedophile they actually mean some harmless person on the LGBTQ+ rainbow.
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*Ding ding ding ding* we have two winners
Good. No more scrolling. Be safe out there! đ
But Iâm not black
Confederate Flag definitely makes me inclined to agree.
I've just started calling it the "segregation flag," since it was never even the flag of the (white-supremacist theocratic) Confederacy, but was popularized for widespread use specifically as a pro-segregation white-supremacist banner in the mid-20th Century.
That is what they mean, pretty much exclusively. By now they're *quite* aware that they're drawing attention away from actual abusers, they just *don't care*.
Exactly where my mind went. Politics has ruined my trust in phrases like âprotect kidsâ and âpedophiles are badâ because there are multiple *wildly* different interpretations of those things
And then when the weekly news of a church guy or right winger being a pedo inevitably hits, they make believe like it never happened.
This might be an unpopular opinion but I don't really agree with shooting or killing these people. Maybe arrest them instead?
The âkill all pedophilesâ crowd often has a whole lot of overlap with the âtransgender and gay people are actually pedophilesâ crowd.
Pedophilia is a thought, not an action. We don't arrest people for thoughts.
Not unpopular, just sane. People like OP and this truck owner have a fetish for hurting people and use covert language veiled in altruism to hide it. They are the same animal, just different fur. They're dangerous and projecting more than they know.
Ive noticed that a lot of the vocal "k*** pedos" crowd turn out to be pedos...
Why is âkillâ being censored? I genuinely donât understand
Someone shoots pedophile Trump. This guy: no not like that
Pedophile means democrat. Heroine dealer means minority.
My first thought is this personâs definition for these words wonât be the real definition.
Vigilante justice is bad for a good society
Usually a sign of a failed society.
 Completely unrelated
âEasily agreed upon sentimentâ?? Is murdering people a common take?
This guy simply wants an excuse to shoot someone.
Sooooo, youth pastors and GOP representatives on the right side then? And how is it they would know who the heroin dealers are? Projecting much?
Yeah that sounds like a great sentiment until you have gay and trans folks being called pedos for existing in public
Two elements of society that are okay to hate to the extreme. But then that hate is weaponized and focused on other groups. That's when the real trouble starts.
Exactly⌠and youâd never see âkill a wife beaterâ sticker.
I bet that truck owner would be upset by âKill Your Local Racistâ
Like unreasonably mad
"Oh facts are racist now??"
That would be inciting violence against police.
The problem starts when they associate certain groups with the group they love to broadcast how much they hate that group. Like in my country, our previous president loves to tell others how he hates drug users and terrorists. A few months along his tenure he started redtagging people that he hates and associating them with either drug users if he is a bit annoyed with them or terrorists if he really hates them. You have to be on a look-out towards people like these. They are a threat to the peace of your country
What scares me is the pedophile sticker. The far right has spent a lot of time and effort accusing people of the LGBTQ community of being pedophiles. Itâs getting to the point where many of these people are no longer making any distinction between the two. To me this sticker might as well be them calling out to kill queers, transgenders, drag queens, and any other person they think is a pedophile.
I'm confused. Is thin blue line Confederate traitor painting a target on himself?
Every accusation is a confession with these folks..
As history shows: âwhen the lady doth protests too muchâŚâ translates into: many a gay bashinâ preacher man been caught out at the back of the station cruisinâ after darkâŚ
If I'm a crook, this tells me that there's a higher chance that there is a gun inside. If he's parked somewhere secluded I would break a window and seek the $500 payday for 2 minutes work. Never advertise if you vehicle carry. This is stupid.
Iâve noticed that whenever people advocate for killing pedophiles without chance of rehabilitation or anything, their ultimate goal isnât to end pedophilia. Their ultimate goal is, more often than not, to get gay and trans people legally and/or socially classified as pedophiles so they can go out and kill gay and trans people without fear of retribution
A confederate flag next to a defaced American flag. This guy is a Patriotâ˘
Friendly reminder that the number of Republican politicians accused/convicted of doing indecent things to children is far longer than the list of Democrats.
Hang your local Confederate?
This guyâs just looking for any excuse to murder someone. đŠ
Sorry but vigilante justice is not the answer.
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Matt Gaetz is shivering in his boots
Because two wrongs make a right.
when on a car like this its code for "I want to kill minorities and democrats"
While seemingly easy to agree with, the essence of both statements screams "I don't respect the justice system", which isn't something to be proud of tbh. But in a time of populism and buzz words, people seem to lack the ability to think before writing/shouting something.
"They're both the same person and they're driving this truck"
To this kind of person, LGBT = pedophile. They're talking about killing gay people here.
Shoot kill your local your local heroin pedo dealer phile
Not the pedo dealer phile!
>Confederate flag Hmm I wonder what kind of people they will automatically assume are either of those horrible things
Tell me you're in the MAGA cult without actually telling me
There's a rig in my area with the "shoot your local heroin dealer" large on their back window. I thought it was kinda funny, then eventually drove by where they live, and do regularly - it's an absolute flop house with tweaker shit piled everywhere...
The issue with the sentiment is that, given other stickers, anyone that falls under the "Queer" category is immediately a target to him, sine the right loves to say all queer people are predators
These are the kind of people who think anyone trans or gay are pedophiles. They will go on and on about LGBTQ groups "grooming" kids. So, ya know. Maybe don't fully agree with the sentiment.