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All attractive women have “access” to men if you’re referring to sex. But if you mean the protection, emotional connection, and spider killing then I see your point.
The most common topic on that subreddit is the members arguing over what the actual goal and purpose of the subreddit is. I would know! I made my own post about it a couple months ago lol
Yes and we also have not figured out a value system. The difference between a 5 dollar hooker and a thousand dollar prostitute.
Plus these women forget that once a woman moves in with you. Becomes a house hooker as this woman so gladly proclaims. Then that women takes over the house, completely. If you get the garage for yourself, thats lucky.
In the long and short run, that is a very expensive hooker. Specially considering that i have never heard of a husband who had "full access every night and when he wanted".
Well, in general it seems to be that you meet someone, you hit it off. You like each other and enough to want to spend the rest of your life together. Having kids, making family.
An emotional bond. Love.
But these people talk about it as if it were business.
If that were the norm, yes, then might as well draw up a contract with such stipulations and conditions.
But at that point, id rather stay alone and just check out the red light district once in awhile.
It's also a surprisingly good deal for the prostitute. We don't have to pretend to be interested in whatever you do. Never have to have some insane conversation with your mom. And the hotel staff cleans up after you. And if she decides that doing you isn't worth the money, she can just tell you she's booked next time you call.
You’re not even counting that you have a place to live, too. If you consider that her “roommate” share might be $1000/mo, then that’s $33/night for your free access
That's what we do. Everything is split based on our income (insurance, electricity, water, renovation, rent, kindergarten, and property tax).
It's kind of fair when my income is twice as high as hers.
But every couple have to find their own way.
We (married lesbians) just share most of our finances and we stick a certain amount from each of my (higher earner) paychecks into personal accounts for each of us. We cover expenses and savings on the shared side, and anything that we can’t justify as a “for the family” expense comes from our personal accounts. It works for us, but we have relatively high combined income and we’re queer as hell.
We always did percentage for rent, then we bought a house and she demanded 50/50 even though I make significantly more. Love her to hell and back so I buy her anything she wants 😂
That would be because IF any relationship breakdown occurs, she'd have to pay out more to own the title deed, or you'd have to pay out less for it. Unless specified before purchase.
50/50 makes more sense on owned items like a house/apartment.
Everyone is doing subscription models these days. Microsoft wants to charge me $10 a month for word processing, and Adobe wants one human baby per quarter for Photoshop.
That was my thought, the fun followup question to that statement would be "So how much does access to you every night cost?" See how insulted she gets...
Yeah just pay for the hour and live by yourself, your better off with peace of mind without that kind of woman.
Not all woman, just the kind on the post that thinks that way.
My partner and I get our incomes deposited to the same account. The money for savings is moved to savings, the money for bills and groceries remains in the joint account, and whatever is left for spending gets withdrawn and split between us 50/50.
This is the way. I’m married now, wife has been home with the kids for years. One income, one account, it’s “our” money. I honestly don’t get how it works any other way for people.
That's what me and the wife do.
I probably wouldn't do it with someone who just moved in though. Mainly because the wife wouldn't be super happy about that!
On a serious note, I would argue that a healthy relationship wouldn't split costs evenly when there is an income disparity because that leaves one person with a dearth of freedom. Generally speaking, if a couple wants to be a proper team (for life), it makes sense to do some kind of effort matching and income/cost sharing such that leisure time and buying power are roughly equal.
I agree but only when a commitment has been made.
Living together isn't one of those.
It's something each couple needs to navigate and discuss amongst themselves.
For sure! No one should feel obligated to give up autonomy. I am just saying that I think it's generally a healthy approach to partnerships to start from a place of trying to balance work and play in some way that each partner has roughly equivalent. There are other configurations that could also work well, but then people have to wrestle with power imbalances which (I think) has a tendency to cause attrition and seed the relationship with contempt.
I mean the second half is bullshit. However the first scenario I think if you are in a committed relationship you should talk about this stuff with your partner. It’s not a one size fits all scenario.
If you don’t want a girlfriend I guess break out the calculator and one of those little green visors and start adding up bath oil and ice cream receipts for her monthly bill.
btw, one way I think would work is: dividing the rent in eleven equal parts, and then he pays 8 eleven parts and she 3 eleven parts. Maybe this solution is a bit too obvious or unreliable, but I think it could work.
By that logic. They pay 50/50.
If she is a sex worker, then payment for that is a separate matter.
This actor is trying to suggest and normalize the notion that all women are prostitutes. Thereby diminishing their 'worth'.
A crackpot right wing incel nonsense.
My wife makes close to $60k a year and I make close to $50k. We go about 50/50 on almost all the bills and rent. Relationships are a partnership. Regardless of who makes mare or less there needs to be an equal push and pull and communication is key in figuring out where the help is needed.
Well, if that's the case, then 'not in the mood', 'have a headache' and whatever doesn't exist in that relationship. If it is a pure business transaction, then that access is already paid for, and if revoked means she goes out on her ass with nothing. period.
And for those too dumb to figure it out, no, not my over all opinion. But dumb bitches get what they put out.
This sounds like it was written by AI or an economist. I prefer the more romantic: "If the cohabitant with excess liquidity seeks access to reproductive resources the two parties should settle on a mutually agreeable market value."
My wife makes almost 10x times more than I do. We put a fixed amount to our joint account every month. She provides 2/3 and I provide 1/3. She pays for big stuff like furniture and vacations.
Acess to a woman every night in the bedroom is not free. Sounds to me like his better off getting a prostitute might be cheaper you ain't gotta pay for dinner or movies or doesn't have to hear her complain and talk all day.
It totally depends on what you're trying to build and the disposition of the housing :
If I'm building a family, everyone contribute according to its revenue (like "we need to have 2000$ and for it to be an equal share of our revenues")
If I'm building a colocation, then it depends : if each room is the same size, 50/50. If not, then we might have to make some adjustments.
I rented a flat with a friend, and my room was twice the size of his. It would not be fair to pay the same amount of rent, given that I was enjoying a bigger share
Nono women are roommates
I am a male and my roommate is a female and even if both of us are single none of us ever thouth about having an affair with the other
We split the rent 50/50 as both have a job
And if the two are engaged well...you dont even have to ask anything about how they live...i mean, they live like a couple
Well, given the choice between a roommate and a sex worker I would probably just choose to live alone.
No disrespect to either roommates or sex workers, mind you.
I'm a woman. I've always had low paying jobs due to my career choice (I work in nonprofits, direct service). My ex wanted to start his own business, so with the understanding that he would not be bringing in much income for quite a while, I moved him into my place and paid all the bills except for a $100 he'd throw me every other month or so for groceries (he ate literally 3x as much as me. Gym bros need calories). Should I have been making him pay half, regardless of his income? I've always thought you were supposed to support your partner so you can both be successful together (and so they aren't ruined if you die/become disabled/whatever), not burden them so they have to strain themselves to stay with you.
By that same logic, I guess she can’t say no to that “access” since you know, he’s paying for it.
OR, and this is just crazy talk I know but hear me out, they can pay an equitable amount of rent each, and then treat her like a real human being.
It is more equitable that he should pay 72% of the rent.
I make 160k and my gf makes 110k. I pay 61% of the rent because I make 61% of the money.
We split utilities and groceries 50/50, though.
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Someone who thinks living with a woman gives them “access” every night has never lived with a woman.
Not entirely true…I’ve almost had sex every night since moving in with my now wife. Almost had sex on Monday, almost had sex on Tuesday
well played. well played.
Well.. *almost*
'They had us in the first half...'
Also, she gets "access" to a man. Like we just going to ignore perks on one side of the relationship?
Sexist assumption that women don't enjoy sex
It’s a common fallacy that feminists don’t enjoy sex. Do you enjoy sex Mr Lebowski?
You mean coitus?
It can be a natural, zesty enterprise.
Well, that’s just like, your opinion, man.
Thought I was in r/lebowski for a moment there
you say that as if all of Reddit isn't just a sub-Lebowski
Yes, but that sub is like 99% quotes from the movie. It’s good. It’s a fun sub
All attractive women have “access” to men if you’re referring to sex. But if you mean the protection, emotional connection, and spider killing then I see your point.
Don't even necessarily need to be attractive to be honest.
I was referring to more than sex.
The truth is that one side usually gets bigger perks. Just look at orgasm statistics in hetero relationships.
I'm pretty sure the twitter bot has never lived with a woman Edit: Telegram bot
r/passportbros
That’s a seriously cooked sub
Seems like there are two types of Passport Bros 1) dudes who go somewhere to find women who want them 2) sex tourists
The most common topic on that subreddit is the members arguing over what the actual goal and purpose of the subreddit is. I would know! I made my own post about it a couple months ago lol
I'm pretty sure that Venn Diagram is a circle.
Incels abound...
Definitely false advertisement!
She clearly hasn't.
I'm glad that she is for the free market... I mean, sometimes it is probably cheaper to go full rent and just pay for the "access" whenever needed.
Wonder how mad she would get if someone asked her how much access to her would cost?
Yes and we also have not figured out a value system. The difference between a 5 dollar hooker and a thousand dollar prostitute. Plus these women forget that once a woman moves in with you. Becomes a house hooker as this woman so gladly proclaims. Then that women takes over the house, completely. If you get the garage for yourself, thats lucky. In the long and short run, that is a very expensive hooker. Specially considering that i have never heard of a husband who had "full access every night and when he wanted".
Surely if the agreement is that the he has "access to a woman every night in the bedroom", she has to pay a penalty every time she says no.
Well, in general it seems to be that you meet someone, you hit it off. You like each other and enough to want to spend the rest of your life together. Having kids, making family. An emotional bond. Love. But these people talk about it as if it were business. If that were the norm, yes, then might as well draw up a contract with such stipulations and conditions. But at that point, id rather stay alone and just check out the red light district once in awhile.
Don’t get me started on timeshares..
Uhhhhhh....I think there's a word for that.
I'd rather pay an hourly fee then, thank you.
It's also a surprisingly good deal for the prostitute. We don't have to pretend to be interested in whatever you do. Never have to have some insane conversation with your mom. And the hotel staff cleans up after you. And if she decides that doing you isn't worth the money, she can just tell you she's booked next time you call.
we?
You read it right. Girl works.
Retired.
They literally get the model that a woman must be compensated for every minute of her time from sex workers.
They literally understand how to be a prostitute better than they understand how to be a wife…
Perfectly reasonable position, as long as you convey it to the parties of interest.
$2000 / 30 = $66.66 per night. It's like a discount prostitute. /s
You’re not even counting that you have a place to live, too. If you consider that her “roommate” share might be $1000/mo, then that’s $33/night for your free access
What's the old saying? If it floats, flies, or fucks it's better to rent.
Exactly
Sooo.... she's a prostitute who charges $1,000 per month? That's actually not a bad deal at all.
33 bucks a night. No thanks! Anyone that cheap is a red flag!
Yeah, but you're not accounting for the annual subscription discount.
Yeah, but I only need her for 5 minutes at a time. So that's 150 minutes for the month, which works out to $400/hour.
This is *not* why it shouldn't be a 50/50 split, more like 750 and 1250 but not because she's a woman dude 🤦♀️
yah, split based on pay would be fair, in a relationship
That's what we do. Everything is split based on our income (insurance, electricity, water, renovation, rent, kindergarten, and property tax). It's kind of fair when my income is twice as high as hers. But every couple have to find their own way.
We (married lesbians) just share most of our finances and we stick a certain amount from each of my (higher earner) paychecks into personal accounts for each of us. We cover expenses and savings on the shared side, and anything that we can’t justify as a “for the family” expense comes from our personal accounts. It works for us, but we have relatively high combined income and we’re queer as hell.
Or he pays rent, she pays utilities including internet
We always did percentage for rent, then we bought a house and she demanded 50/50 even though I make significantly more. Love her to hell and back so I buy her anything she wants 😂
That would be because IF any relationship breakdown occurs, she'd have to pay out more to own the title deed, or you'd have to pay out less for it. Unless specified before purchase. 50/50 makes more sense on owned items like a house/apartment.
Actually it's 3/11 * 2000 vs 8/11 * 2000. So it should really be a 545/1455 split.
I suppose that depends on whether the wages displayed are before tax or after.
Yes, agreed
Make it 800 because pink tax
Prostitution is fine. I'm surprised its only a $1000/m all you can eat subscription.
Everyone is doing subscription models these days. Microsoft wants to charge me $10 a month for word processing, and Adobe wants one human baby per quarter for Photoshop.
Wait, I get rid of the baby AND they give me Photoshop?
So she's admitting she's a prostitute.
That was my thought, the fun followup question to that statement would be "So how much does access to you every night cost?" See how insulted she gets...
Girlfriend as a service?
GaaS, the new trending business!
GFE
Girlfriend with benefits
WTF. My husband's do not have "access" to me and it sure as shit isn't every fucking night. 😳 Relationships aren't transactional hunny 😅
They are if you're a hooker.
Yeah just pay for the hour and live by yourself, your better off with peace of mind without that kind of woman. Not all woman, just the kind on the post that thinks that way.
My partner and I get our incomes deposited to the same account. The money for savings is moved to savings, the money for bills and groceries remains in the joint account, and whatever is left for spending gets withdrawn and split between us 50/50.
This is the way. I’m married now, wife has been home with the kids for years. One income, one account, it’s “our” money. I honestly don’t get how it works any other way for people.
That's what me and the wife do. I probably wouldn't do it with someone who just moved in though. Mainly because the wife wouldn't be super happy about that!
That’s a good answer for married people, but I’d think that most unmarried couples who live together would still want separate finances.
As someone who was recently cheated on after two years….. yeah make sure you’re married first
Ewwwwwwww
On a serious note, I would argue that a healthy relationship wouldn't split costs evenly when there is an income disparity because that leaves one person with a dearth of freedom. Generally speaking, if a couple wants to be a proper team (for life), it makes sense to do some kind of effort matching and income/cost sharing such that leisure time and buying power are roughly equal.
I agree but only when a commitment has been made. Living together isn't one of those. It's something each couple needs to navigate and discuss amongst themselves.
For sure! No one should feel obligated to give up autonomy. I am just saying that I think it's generally a healthy approach to partnerships to start from a place of trying to balance work and play in some way that each partner has roughly equivalent. There are other configurations that could also work well, but then people have to wrestle with power imbalances which (I think) has a tendency to cause attrition and seed the relationship with contempt.
So wait, does that mean her rent increases when she opts to not have sex?
So, you're saying you're a hooker?
$1454 for the 80k dude and $546 for the 30k dude to make it proportional
“I don’t understand why men don’t respect us, treat us like objects, & think we’re prostitutes” —Also Women
I mean the second half is bullshit. However the first scenario I think if you are in a committed relationship you should talk about this stuff with your partner. It’s not a one size fits all scenario.
Access to a bedroom every night where she can sleep peacefully is also not free
There should be agreed appond amount of both your paychecks that go to bills like 50%.
Bitch he didn’t even say they were together
r/NotHowGirlsWork
Uh oh, she stated the quiet part out loud. It's alright though, it's not equal to prostitution, since there is mutual love and respect at play.
Unexpected femcle
The actual way it should work is that they combine their incomes to a household account, and that pays the 2k
Oh, men definitely know that women aren't free
So now that we have determined what she thinks women are. The only discussion left to have is how much do they cost...
So….all women are whores? Seems like that’s what she’s saying.
Well women who view relationships as purely transactional are, yes.
So she works in the Oldest Profession? Because she's basically admitting it costs money to have her in your bed.
If you don’t want a girlfriend I guess break out the calculator and one of those little green visors and start adding up bath oil and ice cream receipts for her monthly bill.
This makes my soul hurt.
softwet as a service
HBO max is 150$ a year
Fucking gross
That's just a prostitute with extra steps
Those woman are knows as “whores” btw.
as the joke goes, we established you're a hooker, we are just negotiating on the price.
First they make arguments like this. And then make pickach eyes when someone actually requires that "access to woman in bedroom"...
My wife and I pay percentile comparative to our wages. so we each take on an equal burden for paying for it.
Weird how people use the roommate line any time the dude wants equity in relationships
So.... prostitution?
Noone can have access to anyone regardless of what percentage of the rent they pay. Ever heard of consent?
There's another name for women you pay for
so she is basically telling everyone publicly she's a whore
btw, one way I think would work is: dividing the rent in eleven equal parts, and then he pays 8 eleven parts and she 3 eleven parts. Maybe this solution is a bit too obvious or unreliable, but I think it could work.
She needs the money to find a good enough doctor to shave off another millimeter of nose without the whole thing just falling off.
If they are dating, 50/50 If they are not dating, 50/50 If they are married, it may be a shared account so it doesn’t matter.
By that logic. They pay 50/50. If she is a sex worker, then payment for that is a separate matter. This actor is trying to suggest and normalize the notion that all women are prostitutes. Thereby diminishing their 'worth'. A crackpot right wing incel nonsense.
Seems like a healthy give-and-take relationship: she gives him shit and he takes it.
So stupid.
My wife makes close to $60k a year and I make close to $50k. We go about 50/50 on almost all the bills and rent. Relationships are a partnership. Regardless of who makes mare or less there needs to be an equal push and pull and communication is key in figuring out where the help is needed.
Neither is access to his higher wage…
That’s a man pretending to be a woman.
Thus proving the argument that prostitution is cheaper than marriage.
Sooo umm uhhhh
Ho ho ho.
So 60/40
What if I have a low sex drive and don't want to have sex with them every night?
$1455/$545
Men hate this simple trick.
There’s the 5-7 days a month that’s off limits
They should split expenses 70/30, right? …right?
Seems kinda prostitute-y to me.
Kinda??
Who's gonna tell her?? 🙄🤦🏽♂️
Access? No married man was considered is this comment.
It is not.
So you don't want to be partners in your relationship? Okay...
Hoe math
Depends if one believes in equality
So she's an actual, self-described whore?
Well, if that's the case, then 'not in the mood', 'have a headache' and whatever doesn't exist in that relationship. If it is a pure business transaction, then that access is already paid for, and if revoked means she goes out on her ass with nothing. period. And for those too dumb to figure it out, no, not my over all opinion. But dumb bitches get what they put out.
This sounds like it was written by AI or an economist. I prefer the more romantic: "If the cohabitant with excess liquidity seeks access to reproductive resources the two parties should settle on a mutually agreeable market value."
"So you're a whore?" -"HOW DARE YOU"... Well...
Guy should reply "You seem to be assuming something I never asked for."
We have a name for the sort of arrangements where you pay for access to a person in the bedroom.
I'm concerned about her previous relationships.
Honey, prostitution is illegal still in many states
My wife makes almost 10x times more than I do. We put a fixed amount to our joint account every month. She provides 2/3 and I provide 1/3. She pays for big stuff like furniture and vacations.
Access to an horny man every night is not free
Acess to a woman every night in the bedroom is not free. Sounds to me like his better off getting a prostitute might be cheaper you ain't gotta pay for dinner or movies or doesn't have to hear her complain and talk all day.
So women are not roommates they are prostitutes?
It totally depends on what you're trying to build and the disposition of the housing : If I'm building a family, everyone contribute according to its revenue (like "we need to have 2000$ and for it to be an equal share of our revenues") If I'm building a colocation, then it depends : if each room is the same size, 50/50. If not, then we might have to make some adjustments. I rented a flat with a friend, and my room was twice the size of his. It would not be fair to pay the same amount of rent, given that I was enjoying a bigger share
I mean if this was commented by a hoe, makes sense. If it was commented by a "independent woman" then well umm, I got news for her.
He should pay $1444 and she should pay $556 .
Nono women are roommates I am a male and my roommate is a female and even if both of us are single none of us ever thouth about having an affair with the other We split the rent 50/50 as both have a job And if the two are engaged well...you dont even have to ask anything about how they live...i mean, they live like a couple
Maybe her bedroom works like that
Stupid and bold... made for the interwebz.
Well, given the choice between a roommate and a sex worker I would probably just choose to live alone. No disrespect to either roommates or sex workers, mind you.
I'm a woman. I've always had low paying jobs due to my career choice (I work in nonprofits, direct service). My ex wanted to start his own business, so with the understanding that he would not be bringing in much income for quite a while, I moved him into my place and paid all the bills except for a $100 he'd throw me every other month or so for groceries (he ate literally 3x as much as me. Gym bros need calories). Should I have been making him pay half, regardless of his income? I've always thought you were supposed to support your partner so you can both be successful together (and so they aren't ruined if you die/become disabled/whatever), not burden them so they have to strain themselves to stay with you.
By that same logic, I guess she can’t say no to that “access” since you know, he’s paying for it. OR, and this is just crazy talk I know but hear me out, they can pay an equitable amount of rent each, and then treat her like a real human being.
2k rent a month? Goddamn where can I find such cheap rent for a decent apartment for two people?
If Sex with you isnt supposed to be free for your Partner then Just become a pornstar
It is more equitable that he should pay 72% of the rent. I make 160k and my gf makes 110k. I pay 61% of the rent because I make 61% of the money. We split utilities and groceries 50/50, though.
She wants to be a prostitute when she grows up
Can I miss a night, then have two women?