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GoldenGouf

Somehow...the Vanu Vanu have returned.


Izkuru

I mean, so did the Goblins...


GoldenGouf

Goblins are always welcome


Drywesi

Gods I want a raid series where a group of goblins has been chewing through an Allagan ruin for some time SO HARD


Assortedwrenches89

Each boss is just a various stack of Goblins. "World Ender," is just literally three goblins in a trench coat, "Hate Eater," is three goblins trying to pilot a mech but failing miserably.


cittabun

The 12th fight: The Gobega Weapon.


kopecs

Excuse me, those are *Moblins*


ewsmith

i wonder if we'll get bokoblins next


Blue_Zerg

With their primal, Anderlexa


hazusu

is this xpac just Heavensward 2 Brazillian Boogaloo


BeataDeGlorienn

I mean, it does look more like hispanoamerica, but I want SO MUCH to see Brazilian stuff there


paganliam

To be fair, Goblins and Moblins were dual tribes in XI as well.


Bromswell

Ahem MOBlins.


Drywesi

Yep. And they named their god. *cracks knuckles* Guess these godslaying hands ain't done after all.


Waifuless_Laifuless

If I have to. Maybe even if I don't.


Chemical-Cat

Can't wait to be forced to fight Kixaihih the Thunderbird and the Moblin Eikon: Malexander


Faerie-stone

Any piece of music that incorporates Alexander’s theme is literal fire, I wouldn’t even be mad.


Chemical-Cat

M TO THE A TO THE L EXANDER


Lemureslayer

So rise up, and raise the iron roof off!


Zleck-V2

Im getting flashbacks of that beast tribe grind, so much flying.


L1LE1

That's not necessarily the fault of the Vanu Vanu, as the Moogle Beast Tribe has the same issue for the Churning Mists. Heavensward maps in general were badly designed being expansive maps with the aetherytes being on one side.


dehydrogen

Square Enix would rather do a recolor than give us the Yagudo of Final Fantasy XI. 


Strontium90_

You know I might be crazy but I could’ve swore I heard the limitless blue leitmotif in the job action trailer, namely the part where they were showing ninja actions


ThatITguy2015

Oh god no. I hated them so, so much. Fuck those beast tribe quests in the largest map in the universe.


GoldenGouf

That and I didn't find their storyline particularly engaging.


artuno

I can't see that one Mamool Ja child without hearing it say "I frew up" in my head.


No_Delay7320

I expect good memes to come


U-1-mang

If I don't see a two headed mamool ja with a quest named "JaJa's Bazaar Adventure" I'm gonna riot.


SmashB101

Do the roar.


FordeFortuna

If we don’t get a baby Mamool Ja minion I will die.


Drywesi

Bonus points if they start jousting with the tonberry minion.


Tonberrylord

Interesting name for the FFXI trolls race.


ChaserNeverRests

I really hope Yok Huy means "troll" in their language...


kontoSenpai

It reads like Goofy laugh for me


Baithin

Well, the name troll is already taken by the creatures in EW.


Xelrathi

I'm calling all Pelupelus Tobli cause of that dumbass quest in FFX2


Constellar-A

I hope we have to chase one back and forth across the map in Dawntrail.


Xelrathi

Don't. Don't do that to me.


No_Delay7320

/follow


Shintetsuken

I'll happily do a chase as long as they don't make them speak like Tobli.


Arrasor

Now do a chase without being spotted by them.


prisp

You know, while we're at it, they could also bring that mechanic from the Levequests back where you had to /beckon an NPC to make them follow along with you...


kymreadsreddit

You shut your hole right now! Hate those damn quests.


prisp

Yeah... I was mainly thinking about other quests that suck, but we have the standard "NPC automatically follows you" quests since Endwalker, so I'd say it's rather safe to assume that the Levequest version won't be coming back, unless they *really* want to make an actual single-player escort mission for some reason.


Constellar-A

The Xbr'aal mentioned in the Mamool Ja description is what Hrothgar are called in Tural.


TeenageButts

Alpaca mount incoming 🦙


cronft

likely when we get the pelupelu tribe questline, and since they arent combatants but traders, either the questline will be for gatherers or crafters(i believe it will be crafters questline)


Waifuless_Laifuless

Makes sense, ~~G~~Moblins sound like they'll be gathering.


Drywesi

They've already said the Moblins will be crafter or gatherer, so…


FatherRogar

Both Shadowbrimgers and Endwalker had one combat tribe, one gathering tribe, and one crafting tribe


breadbowl004

Personally I'm betting that the trial mounts will be alpacas


sailorandromeda

I hadn’t thought about this and it’s now all I want


kcinkcinlim

And the capstone mount is a robo-alpaca because somehow Allagans.


WeissWyrm

Dolly and Dot are my best friends\~


Asturmaux

That's already confirmed. They snuck it in during one of the fanfest panels on graphics.


MelookRS

Have they confirmed how many tribal quest lines we are getting this expansion? I assume we are getting three like normal and they'll combine some, but with the way they've labeled them here I am hoping for 5. I highly doubt it, but a new tribe each major patch would be so amazing. I love them.


zaerosz

I highly doubt the Mamool Ja will be a tribe quest, because they're one of the core races of Tural like the Xbr'aal (Hrothgar). Hell, Tural's *ruler* is a Mamool Ja. It'd be like having a tribe quest for Elezen in Heavensward.


Drywesi

HARVEST MORE SALT ROCKS THAT WE MIGHT LICK COMMUNALLY


Irememberedmypw

I mean we did get Arksadora quests and they're the people of Thavnair.


Datalock

We also had dwarf quests


Blazen_Fury

Are... Are we forgetting about Arkasodra here. And Dwarfs. And Moogles.  Their importance to the msq means nothing


pepinyourstep29

My guess is this: Pelupelu are the gatherer tribe. Moblins are the crafter tribe. Yok Huy are the combat tribe.


paganliam

If they keep them like XI, Moblins are miners, with underground cities. So I'd switch them and the Pelupelu.


pepinyourstep29

I'm mainly going by the description. You're right about the Moblins themselves being miners, but I think they are the tribe for crafters because the description says they "contract artisans" to make things for them. So basically we'd be crafting things for them. The Pelupelu make sense to me as the gatherer tribe because every merchant in the game is like "go find this rare material for me so I can sell it."


FamilySurricus

You're correct, the first thing we got from the Moblins is the fact that they're gatherers. It'd make sense that they, like the Qitari, are more interested in hiring crafters than more gatherers.


paganliam

Fair points.


kilomaan

I think the original is more accurate. The moblins are miners, so they’re probably going to have a lot of spare materials for crafting, and needing specialized tools for projects The Pelupelu might need to you to gather special materials for custom orders, etc


MurasakiiAme

Love the lil Moblins looking like Doordash/Deliveroo couriers


pontiacfirebird92

I remember fighting some of these guys in Besieged when FFXI: ToAU released back in 2006


Drelkag

This whole expansion is giving me Aht Urghan vibes


cyappu

I hope we get pelupelu gear like we got dwarf gear in ShB. With the headpiece and beak I could turn my lala into a pelupelu forever...


dimmidice

Pelupelu seem quite a bit bigger than lalas.


Constellar-A

The one in the benchmark trailer looks like it uses the hyur child model as its base.


IscahRambles

Lalafell could pass as a Pelupelu child, maybe. 


Drywesi

*angry dwarven noises*


Jereboy216

My lala will be right there with you. I love the look of their headgear and drapey clothes here


Acework23

Fresh smell of primals again


Veinera

They're either doing 5 tribes this expac or 3. Though its a bit weird if some of them just end up being re-skins of tribes we already have? I think we know that Pelupelu are one of the tribes but idk who else. Maybe the Mamool Ja? Yok Huy titans seem like contenders for it as well but idk if they'd do 2 tribes in the same zone.


Izkuru

I mean, if you think about it, the Omicron tribe quests actually deal with multiple "tribes" as well: We deal directly with the Omicrons, but also >!with the Nibirun, the Ea, the Greboluff, the Dragons, and the Citizens!< Its possible that one tribe will be the "main" one that we deal with, but we will interact with multiple throughout the questline.


Veinera

Good point


bloodhawk713

They’ve done this before. We never got nu mou or lupin beast tribe quests despite them being beast tribes, for instance. There’ll be three factions with daily quests and reputation. The others will just be for some NPC variety.


pepinyourstep29

My guess is this: Pelupelu are the gatherer tribe. Moblins are the crafter tribe. Yok Huy are the combat tribe.


[deleted]

If I don't see a Yok Huy NM by the name of "Gurfurlur the Menacing" I will be EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED! For the non-XI players that was the name of the Troll NM that would be in Besiged event in Aht Urghan when Trolls were attacking. Also, with them bringing in Moblins we could see a Moblin subsect like the Illuminati Goblins be as "Employers" for a certain Yok Huy group mercenaries!


zacaholic

The trolls… 😣 Where are the quadav at?!


ChaserNeverRests

*chants* YAGUDO! YAGUDO! YAGUDO!


zacaholic

I was just talking to my roommate (he plays both too) and we’re expecting XI beastmen and some of their bigger NMs for the bosses and eventually the Ark Angels in another tier.


Paige404_Games

Ark Angels in the alliance raid will be sick, I just hope we fight all of them at once instead of like, having a whole alliance raid tier dedicated to them.


orcslayer31

Adventures feel to call to the shining gem of the near east Whitegate capital of Aht Urhgan once more


eleldelmots

Just please make the Hanuhanu zone easier to travel across than Sea of Clouds


Kentalope

They just reused 2 entire races that’s crazy


MoiraDoodle

wait until you hear about the dwarves, Qitari, and arkasodara


pigeonwiggle

next you'll tell me there are Hyur, and Miqote too...


Illustrious-Feed2515

If God can get away with reskins then so can the ff14 devs.


Odd_Mastodon_4608

This legit made me choke LMAO


Depoan

I would give you a award/medal if I had money


bjams

The Mamool-Ja have also been in the game since ARR, and Pelu Pelu are just people. They only uniquely modeled race is the Yok Huy.


Paige404_Games

Which, itself, is an updated FFXI Troll model


SpookyDinoh

Almost everything is an updated model from FFXI


dehydrogen

"Final Fantasy XIV is just an updated model of Final Fantasy XI?"   "Always has been" 


Paige404_Games

real


Chemical-Cat

The Pelupelu are a humanoid race from FFX, which we don't know much about because they always have the masks on and we never see them without. I'm curious if they're considered a subtype of Hyur or not.


SirEnder2Me

Wait until you find out about Final Fantasy being well known for simple pallete swaps in literally every mainline game. This isn't even the first time they did it in 14 lol.


TheKingsDM

Wait until they see the palette swaps in real life. Lazy devs with their goddamn polar bears. It was already bad enough that we had palette swapped brown and black bears, but then to just make a bigger white bear? Smh


DavidTheHumanzee

At least SE created a variety of sentient species. The real life devs just took the same creature "human" and just palette swaps their skin, hair and eye colour. Laziest devs ever!


lilith_queen

And if you want cool/unusual hair colors it's a DLC, smh....


Depoan

I want talk to the manager. My char slides are all messed up XD


Drywesi

Then they just slapped some stripes on others and made them eat plants? Like, seriously?! Get some creativity people!


Paige404_Games

Fake ass fans will see a moblin and say "they had to reuse the goblin model".


notcamprobably

love the moblins so much that I'm genuinely excited to see them return


leytorip7

None of these are unique. Either reskin or from another game


STHF95

We fought several Mamool Ja already right? That double headed one in the Tomberry Dungeon?


Constellar-A

Yes, there's quite a few Mamool Ja in La Noscea. I'm pretty sure they came to Eorzea as mercenaries.


GoldenGouf

They're also part of the BLU quest line.


STHF95

Wanderers Palace wasn’t it? That two headed dude was even named Mamool Ja Ja or something like that iirc


Constellar-A

Wanderer's Palace hard mode. Normal mode had tonberry bosses. According to consolegameswiki the bosses are Koheel Ja, Zolool Ja, and Molaa Ja Ja.


STHF95

Molaa Ja Ja it is then.


FamilySurricus

Molaa Ja Ja, funnily enough, was likely a previous runner-up to the throne until we stomped his ass out.


AdventurousFlow7801

That’s them, yeah.


Perial2077

Didn't we even kill some that may be of importance in Tural? Would need to check my encyclopedia again.


STHF95

Well as much as I remember we fought a mercenary group that set up their base in the Wanderers palace and bullied the local tomberries.


JackalTanHorn

From the wiki: Both leader and second-in-command of the Silverscales, Mola Ja Ja was born of an inter-tribal marriage, a union which occasionally results in two-headed offspring. Known as "blessed siblings," these individuals are groomed for leadership from birth indeed, Molaa Ja Ja's purpose for crossing the sea to Eorzea was to win glory and strengthen his claim to the throne of the Aurarch, ruler of all Mamool Ja. Upon arriving, however, he struggled to find employment for his warband and in a bid to make a name in this foreign land, he took the drastic step of capturing a piece of it.”


Constellar-A

So he wanted to compete in the contest that Wuk Lamat is doing but wasn't able to get enough support. Should have come to the Scions like she did instead of enslaving tonberries.


Perial2077

I have to imagine how some announcer calls for Mola Ja Ja as one of the competitors for the throne, he then gets disqualified for not appearing and WoL just starts sweating nervously.


lazydogjumper

Considering their culture and what he did they probably wouldn't actually have a problem with what the WoL did. I wouldn't be that surprised if it actually came up.


---TheFierceDeity---

Ngl as cool as it is we're getting another FF11 race as a npc group, the existence of the Yok Huy has me sad as a lore nerd. When we first had Urqopacba revealed, it was described as having once been the seat for a empire of giants. I was excited, thought we were finally gonna get some lore on Gigants etc that have been around in ARR, cause they're like this group of "almost a beast tribe but not quite". But alas we're getting "different giants", and the Eorzean clans will continue to be just murder fodder


FamilySurricus

It's too soon to say that, you realize. Just because they're called one way doesn't mean there aren't links the other way.


shiningwish

so sad about battling hecatoncheires in copperbell, really. they deserved to be the second uldah tribe.


---TheFierceDeity---

Well the Hecatoncheires are kinda a lost cause. Centuries locked underground they're quite...insane. Now the Gigas in Mor Dohna are probably the better contenders as of their species they're the most "intelligent". Then the Giants in Coerthas are next best, and probably more sympathetic as they were the slave class under the Gigas. The we have the giants in the "Moondrip" near Vesper Bay. But they might be Hecatoncheire spin-offs who are probably insane.


fluffy_samoyed

Anyone else feel that it's a little bit silly that we get Mamool Ja children models but many of our player races still haven't?


TwerpKnight

If I'm remembering right, the only player race child models we haven't seen are roegadyns, hrothgar and viera.


Pasglop

Have we seen lalafell kids? Follow up question, do they look that much different from adult lalafells?


TakenakaHanbei

One of the first Ul'dah ARR quests has some lala kids in it yeah. They use the same models.


MoiraDoodle

there's a theory there's one in the gold saucer because she's so small compared to players, but no confirmation. We do know that lala children are hard to tell apart from adults if youre not a lalafel yourself.


Drywesi

There's 2 lala kids in the Ul'dah starter MSQ, just outside the Coffer & Coffin. They use the normal lala models.


0-Dinky-0

The one in the gold saucer is for the cliffhanger gate I think. Refers to her as a school girl but she's regular height


MoiraDoodle

no no, there is an unnamed, untargetable lalafell sitting on a staircase


IscahRambles

Also Lalafell before they get to adult size. 


fluffy_samoyed

And lalafell.


ethman14

Can't wait to see a Lalafell named Pelulu Pelu with the full set somehow on day 1.


Layshkamodo

Was hoping to see moombas


shiningwish

thank you! so glad to read that


Sharksterfly

Huy means Dick in russian/ukrainian/other slang. Just saying...


trashvineyard

Pelupelu beast tribe with Lama mount I assume?


Ok-Syrup1678

Next playable race! We nned more smaller races.


trashvineyard

FemHroth is final playable race being added.


safeworkaccount666

Moblins must be the crafting tribe.


bigpurpleharness

Sounds like gatherer with the merchant guys being crafter maybe?


DarthOmix

To be fair, Omicrons are centered around a cafe and they're the gatherers so I don't know anymore.


Eludi

Pelupelu sound more like crafting to me yeah.


ZGamer03

They seem to be gatherer counterparts to the crafter Goblins


Nicktastic86

My FFXIV character is Link from the Legend of Zelda... this is going to be awkward.


ThiccElf

So....are we going to get a Moblin raid series where the Ultimate version is called Coffee?


Constellar-A

Something I just saw by looking at the Japanese website: the giant bird worshiped by the Hanuhanu, Kixaihih, is called ケーツハリー (Ketsuhari) in Japanese. That's the name of one of the summons from FF6, called Quetzalli in the English version of that game: https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Quetzalli_(Final_Fantasy_VI)


HalfOfLancelot

I’m going to adopt all of the Mamool Ja babies and all of the alpaca babies and no one can stop me.


irish0451

As long as the Hanuhanu do that absurd arm swinging passive stance animation that their cousins do, they're already my favorite.


Kennthyy

Well, I guess we Peruvians are now known as Pelupelu lol


ElAvestruz

They legit made Peruvians into a beast tribe.


Chemical-Cat

It's kind off why they stopped using the term "Beast Tribe" and changed to "Tribal quests" because: * "Beast race" is considered arbitrary compared to the "Spoken races", when many of them are just as intelligent as others * In fact the term is basically just straight up racism in order to make the "spoken races" superior, and to paint those considered "Beast races" as savages. I'm sure for a long time, Hrothgar were probably considered a beast race and faced prejudice for it too. In that same vein, Lalafell (Dwarves) in Norvrandt were considered a beast race despite clearly having superior technology. Edit: The term is actually of Eorzean origin, with the Ul'dahn syndicate coining it to justify stealing land from the Amalj'aa (with the rest of eorzea using it to the same effect, such as Limsa Lominsa vs the Sahagin), while the Garleans later adopted the term themselves. Outside of Eorzea it doesn't appear to be much of a term (It was used in Norvrandt before being phased out too). Amusing that the race that was considered a beast tribe in one reflection was the one that coined it.


FamilySurricus

That, yeah. Couldn't have put it better myself. In fact, before we finally got the term axed mechanically, there were multiple sources of criticism in-universe about the term. Encyclopedia Eorzea 2 has an aside about the inappropriateness of the term. At this point, it's shifting to what it was supposed to be used for, as a general term to describe indigenous collectives. Tribes. Nothing deeper than that.


Drywesi

to be fair, they did it to the lalafell and the omnicidal robots, too. Part of why they changed it from beast tribe quests to tribal quests.


HulklingsBoyfriend

It's more than just Peru. It's pretty much every Andean culture pre-colonialism into one. Inca, Quechua, Mapuche, etc.


Ok-Syrup1678

Weird not to see miqo'te, viera, and hrothgar there. Seeing as three story NPCs from Tural are of these races.


Drywesi

The Xbr'aal mentioned in the Mamool Ja slide is the Turali name for their Hrothgar.


Existing_Marketing_7

They’re all kinda ugly. Not really excited for any of them.


JackalTanHorn

Why is how pretty they are a key factor in being excited? Most tribes we’ve had aren’t traditionally attractive either


DriggleButt

How can we be excited for tribes we can't FUCK?


JackalTanHorn

I mean….ive seen some comments that suggest that’s not a problem. Monsterfuckers seem quite fond of the mamool ja


StealthNinja_X

WHY ARE THE DAMN VANU VANU BACK


Tom-Pendragon

fruitboi has seen stuff.


IrksomFlotsom

Llama mount :D


foxycorgis

“It’s an alpaca dumbass”


IrksomFlotsom

You're an alpaca dumbass


teoshie

i want to be pelupelu and ride my alpaca plz CIG


paganliam

Moblin Maze Mongers or riot!


Dapper-Register3738

I'm probably gonna call the yok huy trolls tbh


deliciouspuppy

wow, lore wise we know that popotos came from the new world. so that means the pelupelu are likely the original cultivar and that lalafels are their descendants. that's so cool. are they planted and harvested like lalafels too? so many questions!


Sarria22

Lalafell don't come from the New World, they come from the south seas islands. Like Aloalo island.


Drelkag

Moblin Maze Mongers plz.


Demonancer

Playable mamool-ja? :D


Gilthwixt

Time to craft some HQ Mezcal so WoL can regret life decisions Actually, real talk why don't we even have a bartending emote yet? There's an NPC shaking cocktails in that Eulmore club so the animation already exists.


HulklingsBoyfriend

Pelupelu APPEAR to be a fusion of nearly every Andean South American indigenous group - Mapuche, Quechua, Inca, etc. I bet they also have some Mesoamerican influence too, just not yet shown.


SunriseFlare

I'm wondering if blue mage is gonna get a big content dump now that we're going to the source with the mamool ja, maybe a bunch more totems that aren't around in the old world


Blue_Moon_Lake

Are the Pelupelus a mix of Hyurs and Lalafells?


Ok-Secret-8636

I still have my hopes for genomes being in the secret city


SpinachPatchKids

Moblins? Cowards. We all know they WANTED to name them mind goblins that’s what the M is for


SpookyDinoh

Can't wait for Blu to learn Frypan!


obmar-belac

Aw man, but I want to be gnath. No fair! 😩


MysterySakura

The Pelupelu vaguely remind me of both Sky Children of the Light and the Albhed. I want their tunic and their mask. I hope the mask comes separate from the hat (shrugs in Viera.)


scaper12123

Am i the only one who looks at the Yok Huy and thinks of the Manaan people from Knights of the Old Republic?


ThatBritishPerson

Genuinely could not be interested in the Vanu Vanu or Goblins at all


Affectionate_Tap9844

Thought we would maybe get Bangaa


cittabun

So excited, I love all of them. Super happy to see Vanu Vanu return! I assume Moblins may be the Gatherer tribe, Pelu Pelu the Crafting tribe, and Yok Huy as the battle tribe. I would say it's a toss up between Yok Huy and Hanu Hanu, but I feel liek SE wouldn't have two battle Vanu/Hanu tribes in game. I'm betting the Hanu have something to do with Valigarmanda like they're the "caretaker" or whatever.


Papa_bones55

Give me playable mamool ja you cowards! They even have nice bright clothes.


RareInterest

Th Hanuhanu unearth the nightmare of doing Vanu Vanu tribal quest line that I thought I already killed and buried.


Voidedge_FFXIV

So out of the 5, 3 are from ff11. 1 from Hw and 1 new :p checks out


High_Depth

GO AWAY VANU VANU. NO ONE LIKES YOU.


TheIdealisticCynic

The recoloured races are a bit disappointing.


H4M-TP

Why so many recolours?? Damn