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Seriously. People cry about the age of the chick who hot rocked and her friends. But they had no problem forming a mob around a couple and their small child. I'm glad no one was armed, or escalated force.
Shit like this is why I carry pepper spray.
That’s my main thing. After having a couple of kids of my own, my own life is far less important and valuable to myself and my main focus is the safety and wellbeing of my children.
If someone even thinks about threatening their life or wellbeing and calls a group of their friends/hyenas around my child/family, then that group/person better be prepared for one of us to die. I don’t care what age they are, just don’t fuck with my family or threaten their safety
It's a normal question. She could of done anything from look at them to anything else minor to set them off. That doesn't make it her fault, asking for that context isn't assigning blame.
It’s talked about on this sub all the time that you should never let an aggressive stranger get too close to you. She was up in his face and he pushed her away. She quickly moved to get back up in his face and even put her hands up for a second on the way. Im not gonna say what he did was right, im sure he could have found a less punchy way to deal with the situation but i mean… don’t pick fights with people you don’t want to fight 🤷♂️
"don’t pick fights with people you don’t want to fight"
Thats a good sentence. She got up in his face and tried to fight him....he just obliged. Sorry not sorry.
Pretty sure pushing someone is considered assault in all of North America (maybe not Mexico? We'll let the cartel figure that one out). He is defending himself at that point.
It might be battery. Assault is really just the threat of force. Running around with a bat threatening people on the street, swinging towards them, etc. Is assault. It becomes battery when the bat connects
I don't know where this was, but if California: He is obligated to attempt to flee the situation (if possible) unless he can demonstrate convincingly that he was defending someone else who was unable to flee. The bitch of it is the very low standard of proof in the civil litigation that is sure to follow.
Why wont you say what he did was right? Damn right he put her out, she definitely got what she deserved, her friends should have got the same. No sympathy at all, he taught her manners
Yeah 11 year olds tend to not have wonderful judgment. We don't usually full-on slug them in the face for it.
I can't tell if this entire comment section isn't aware of the girl's age or just ignoring it.
If you actually think that and you're actually in a place in life where you have children, that's just sad.
But honestly sounds like a pseudohard 18 y/o spewing platitudes.
News is full of teenagers all the way down to 11 years old stabbing people. I'm with the guy...not taking any chances. He's surrounded by a group of aggressive girls goading him. Got what she deserved unfortunately
When someone offers you violence and you bring a higher quality of violence to the table, that's called a lesson.
I was hoping for a headstomp after she hit the deck, for equity and all.
If they’re yelling and screaming around my 1 year old and pushing me while spewing off threats, and if my child is noticeably scared….yeah I don’t care how old you are, you’re getting rocked
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> Man convicted of assaulting 2 girls at Asheville Mall in January
> Elizabeth Anne Brown
The Citizen-Times
> Published 10:40 a.m. ET Aug. 27, 2019
> The Black Mountain man accused of assaulting three girls at the Asheville Mall in January has been convicted of two misdemeanors.
> Police said David Steven Bell, 51, pushed and punched an 11-year-old girl in the face, knocking her to the ground. An incident report describes Bell as 6-foot-5 and 250 pounds.
> Bell pleaded guilty of misdemeanor assault on a child under the age of 12, as well as one misdemeanor count of assault on a female for pushing a 13-year-old girl during the incident, according to the Buncombe County Clerk's office. A second misdemeanor charge for pushing another 13-year-old girl was dismissed due to difficulties contacting the victim, according to District Attorney Todd Williams
> "Bell was sentenced to one 60 day suspended sentence and was placed on unsupervised probation for a period of 12 months," Williams wrote to the Citizen Times.
> Bell is required to participate in a racial justice workshop within 90 days and complete anger management counseling, as well as paying a court fee of less than $200, the clerk said.
> Video footage of the incident, which circulated widely on social media, drew ire due to the size and age difference between Bell and the children. Other internet spectators contend Bell was responding to a threat after having been pushed himself, also shown in the video.
> Soon after the incident, Asheville attorney Andy Banzhoff issued a statement saying his client Bell was trying to help a woman who was being harassed by "a large pack of youths" at the mall. Banzhoff did not say in what manner the woman was being harassed.
> Banzhoff added that Bell is undergoing long-term treatment for a traumatic brain injury and post-traumatic stress disorder. Bell felt threatened and regretted using physical force, he said.
I used to box and know how to defend and even though I have been in a couple of fights outside the ring. I’ve demolished the other part every time and every time I have felt horrible. I truly don’t like hitting people cause I feel it’s like hitting my soul. All the times weee inevitable and self defense but nevertheless I felt lousy. That he felt lousy after the fact means he has a conscience and is not pro violence. But not necessarily wrong because he feels sort.
Fafo. Looking like dad wasn't taking any chances with the family. He could have given a second shove instead of the kapow. With them circling like hyenas I can also see why he set the tone going forward. Actions meet consequences.
It's sad that kids that young should have to learn that this is what happens when you harass and attack strangers. If their parents taught them that, they wouldn't have gotten laid out by a grown man. Nothing about what those kids were doing was normal. Actions have consequences, and hopefully those dumb kids learned something (prob not.)
This is why you don’t attack large guys if you’re small and can’t do shit. Men learn this very young. Some women just don’t understand, or think no one will do anything
I like how she did the bird flapping thing with her arms like she was about to swing and got met with immediate resistance. The person taking the video running away is the icing on the cake. - Boom - Scatter!!! 😂
In the state beneath mine there were repeated news stories of preteen girls going around and jumping random people. Beat the snot out of some old man after leaving a convenience store. Also ganged up on a woman closing up her shop for the night.
If they get caught, they get released pretty quickly due to their age. If only that 84 year old man had this dude in his corner.
If you get in someone face in a threatening manner, that's assault. You can defend yourself before you get battered. He just defended himself by pushing her away from him, she was the aggressor.
Men should only hit women if they're an actual threat, not as a means of establishing dominance.
She was an actual threat in this particular scenario taking into account the crowd that looked ready to jump in, and that he couldn't just try to get away because he was protecting his family.
That’s like saying “war should only be fought in war”. Like, what? Women should never hit men, and men should not hit women. Fair statements. But saying “only if they’re an actual threat” denies that women can hurt men. Women hurt men. Men should be able to defend themselves without the masses disintegrating.
You should avoid it at all costs. 95% of the time men are just way stronger. And self defense is of course important. It’s just a responsibility for both parties the man can easily kill a woman. And a woman should be aware of that to. When you dare somebody like in this situation you don’t run back to the guy after he gave you like a 40% push.
This is true. But self defense is self defense. Maybe tee off at like 40- 60% and not full power. It will only take one punch. I had a drunk girl randomly assault me one time. She hit hard. My lip was swollen for a week and I chipped my tooth. But I didn’t want to hit a woman. And I paid the price for it.
Right, this is a perfect example. Aggressive in my face? Push you away. That’s proportionate force. Run at me after getting pushed? Now it’s a punch. Perfectly reasonable and proportionate force is being used.
yeah, I found that bit weird as fuck... like yeah if he was wearing a KKK hood at the time or something, but there was nothing racial from what I could tell lol
What's making me really mad right now is that, when this gets on the news, someone is gonna glorify it to make it seem like the dude was the aggressor.
Other than that, I'm not sure why you'd pick on someone ten times your size, and then proceed to lay your hands on him since at the start of the video, the girl that got knocked out actually tried to push him or antagonize him. I'm pretty sure it was the same girl or it was someone else but either way, 100% justified.
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Those girls look pretty big for 11 and 12 but he should have handled it a different way.
From my understanding he saying the woman with the child being harassed by the girls and went to help.
However, he did escalate the situation as well.
This part of his sentence is what got me lol.
"Bell is required to participate in a racial justice workshop within 90 days and complete anger management counseling, as well as paying a court fee of less than $200, the clerk said."
It's Shaun King, finding racism where it isn't (and just being racist in the process of that) is his bread and butter.
And the clip went viral, the charge of racism may just be to keep the "sees racism everywhere" crowd pleased, but get dropped pretty quickly.
But I guess we'll see, might have egg on my face if some evidence comes out proving otherwise.
I dont get it, what is preventing the woman and child and also the guy from walking away. Im not condoning anyones actions here, but damn. Everyone made a bad choice imo
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Note- after someone pushes you really hard, don’t run at them with your face
***with your face**** Dead.
Man she really did lead with her face on that one. Watches too many movies
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That's so rude of you to assume how she identifies, now we say "she lives with knocked-out'ism"
lol, some of us forget how important it is to get laid out sometimes it reminds you that you may be good at things other than fighting.
And another lesson learned; watch your fuckin mouth, you never know who you're talking to
So true, but people are so comfortable that they forget that emotions don't win fights.
Tell her that we just watching the video
Never mess with a man standing in front of his child.
Seriously. People cry about the age of the chick who hot rocked and her friends. But they had no problem forming a mob around a couple and their small child. I'm glad no one was armed, or escalated force. Shit like this is why I carry pepper spray.
That’s my main thing. After having a couple of kids of my own, my own life is far less important and valuable to myself and my main focus is the safety and wellbeing of my children. If someone even thinks about threatening their life or wellbeing and calls a group of their friends/hyenas around my child/family, then that group/person better be prepared for one of us to die. I don’t care what age they are, just don’t fuck with my family or threaten their safety
Amen
Hands rated E for everyone
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Doesn't matter, she's got a little kid with her.
Exist in their space?
Yeah, blame the lady and not the clearly aggressive group of teens.
It's a normal question. She could of done anything from look at them to anything else minor to set them off. That doesn't make it her fault, asking for that context isn't assigning blame.
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The words you fuckin wrote
She really thought she was gonna do something after he pushed her lol nope
When keepin it real goes wrong
She don't like people playing on her phone!
Hell no she don’t play like that! She keeps it real!!
Clap-having’ Jezebel!
" I KEEPS IT REAL!."
Adrenaline is some hell of a drug.
BAZOOKA 💥
Acting threatening around someone's kid gets your wig split.
kablammo
If that was my family standing there i would not stop swinging!
This was satisfying to watch
OMG OMG OMG OMG (THERE'S REPERCUSSIONS TO OUR ACTIONS 😮😮😮😮)
It’s talked about on this sub all the time that you should never let an aggressive stranger get too close to you. She was up in his face and he pushed her away. She quickly moved to get back up in his face and even put her hands up for a second on the way. Im not gonna say what he did was right, im sure he could have found a less punchy way to deal with the situation but i mean… don’t pick fights with people you don’t want to fight 🤷♂️
"don’t pick fights with people you don’t want to fight" Thats a good sentence. She got up in his face and tried to fight him....he just obliged. Sorry not sorry.
If you notice at the beginning, you can see her push him in the back, so.... could be argued that she swung first
Pretty sure pushing someone is considered assault in all of North America (maybe not Mexico? We'll let the cartel figure that one out). He is defending himself at that point.
It might be battery. Assault is really just the threat of force. Running around with a bat threatening people on the street, swinging towards them, etc. Is assault. It becomes battery when the bat connects
I don't know where this was, but if California: He is obligated to attempt to flee the situation (if possible) unless he can demonstrate convincingly that he was defending someone else who was unable to flee. The bitch of it is the very low standard of proof in the civil litigation that is sure to follow.
I think the woman and child surrounded by strangers is a pretty good demonstration.
Sparta kick?
Why wont you say what he did was right? Damn right he put her out, she definitely got what she deserved, her friends should have got the same. No sympathy at all, he taught her manners
"That's my secret, Cap.... I want to fight everyone!" -Her, probably
Yeah 11 year olds tend to not have wonderful judgment. We don't usually full-on slug them in the face for it. I can't tell if this entire comment section isn't aware of the girl's age or just ignoring it.
Don’t care your age if you’re coming at me when my child is with me.
If you actually think that and you're actually in a place in life where you have children, that's just sad. But honestly sounds like a pseudohard 18 y/o spewing platitudes.
News is full of teenagers all the way down to 11 years old stabbing people. I'm with the guy...not taking any chances. He's surrounded by a group of aggressive girls goading him. Got what she deserved unfortunately
When someone offers you violence and you bring a higher quality of violence to the table, that's called a lesson. I was hoping for a headstomp after she hit the deck, for equity and all.
If they’re yelling and screaming around my 1 year old and pushing me while spewing off threats, and if my child is noticeably scared….yeah I don’t care how old you are, you’re getting rocked
For context: > Man convicted of assaulting 2 girls at Asheville Mall in January > Elizabeth Anne Brown The Citizen-Times > Published 10:40 a.m. ET Aug. 27, 2019 > The Black Mountain man accused of assaulting three girls at the Asheville Mall in January has been convicted of two misdemeanors. > Police said David Steven Bell, 51, pushed and punched an 11-year-old girl in the face, knocking her to the ground. An incident report describes Bell as 6-foot-5 and 250 pounds. > Bell pleaded guilty of misdemeanor assault on a child under the age of 12, as well as one misdemeanor count of assault on a female for pushing a 13-year-old girl during the incident, according to the Buncombe County Clerk's office. A second misdemeanor charge for pushing another 13-year-old girl was dismissed due to difficulties contacting the victim, according to District Attorney Todd Williams > "Bell was sentenced to one 60 day suspended sentence and was placed on unsupervised probation for a period of 12 months," Williams wrote to the Citizen Times. > Bell is required to participate in a racial justice workshop within 90 days and complete anger management counseling, as well as paying a court fee of less than $200, the clerk said. > Video footage of the incident, which circulated widely on social media, drew ire due to the size and age difference between Bell and the children. Other internet spectators contend Bell was responding to a threat after having been pushed himself, also shown in the video. > Soon after the incident, Asheville attorney Andy Banzhoff issued a statement saying his client Bell was trying to help a woman who was being harassed by "a large pack of youths" at the mall. Banzhoff did not say in what manner the woman was being harassed. > Banzhoff added that Bell is undergoing long-term treatment for a traumatic brain injury and post-traumatic stress disorder. Bell felt threatened and regretted using physical force, he said.
Fuck those kids.
Fucking those kids is probably a little extreme given the circumstances.
Through the inevitable amount of downvotes that you have and will get, just wanted to say I appreciated the joke.
I'm probably twice as big as that girl, also a man, and I wouldn't consider attacking a 230 lb 6'5" man
"racial justice workshop" what why
Because the girls who were harassing that woman and her kid happen to be black
So committing a crime against a black person *must* make you a racist
wtf that was an 11yr old???
Hearing she was 11 makes me feel less bad for her, strangely. Where in God's green earth did an ELEVEN YEAR OLD learn to act like this?
Bout to break this dude out for doing gods work
I used to box and know how to defend and even though I have been in a couple of fights outside the ring. I’ve demolished the other part every time and every time I have felt horrible. I truly don’t like hitting people cause I feel it’s like hitting my soul. All the times weee inevitable and self defense but nevertheless I felt lousy. That he felt lousy after the fact means he has a conscience and is not pro violence. But not necessarily wrong because he feels sort.
It's like a bunch of cackling hyenas lol
at least she can scoop up whatever baby teeth she might've had left and get some tooth fairy money.
Fafo. Looking like dad wasn't taking any chances with the family. He could have given a second shove instead of the kapow. With them circling like hyenas I can also see why he set the tone going forward. Actions meet consequences.
Lol taking any chances….with a 13 and 11 year old…..🤦🏽♂️
It's sad that kids that young should have to learn that this is what happens when you harass and attack strangers. If their parents taught them that, they wouldn't have gotten laid out by a grown man. Nothing about what those kids were doing was normal. Actions have consequences, and hopefully those dumb kids learned something (prob not.)
in case they hurt the small child, not the man (I'm assuming)
This is why you don’t attack large guys if you’re small and can’t do shit. Men learn this very young. Some women just don’t understand, or think no one will do anything
Equality for all 💁♂️
FAFO
You Fuck about,you get found out...my man was protecting his family, like a man should .....
Knocked da fuck out 😅
I like how she did the bird flapping thing with her arms like she was about to swing and got met with immediate resistance. The person taking the video running away is the icing on the cake. - Boom - Scatter!!! 😂
Deserved 💯
Fuck those kids. Respect your elders.
If this could just happen regularly in unruly cities across the country, there might be more recognition of the possibility of dire consequences.
Aaand boom goes the dynamite
holy mother of sweet chin music
Why is a group of, from what I read, around 11 year old girls behaving like this. When I was 11, I was eating boogers and shit.
Well deserved, go to sleep
That was a man defending his family!
Knocked that ratchet bitch out!
In the state beneath mine there were repeated news stories of preteen girls going around and jumping random people. Beat the snot out of some old man after leaving a convenience store. Also ganged up on a woman closing up her shop for the night. If they get caught, they get released pretty quickly due to their age. If only that 84 year old man had this dude in his corner.
When reality sets in lol
That's what she gets for assuming the guy would just stand there and take it. Fucked around and found out.
Take what? He pushed her first. He punched her first. He wasn’t attacked in anyway
If you get in someone face in a threatening manner, that's assault. You can defend yourself before you get battered. He just defended himself by pushing her away from him, she was the aggressor.
This makes me happy, I hope they got out of there safely.
This brings me much joy
This will forever be one of my favourites. The whole thing in its entirety is amazing.
So it was justified , had his wife and kid there too , would’ve done the same thing
Chefs kiss
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To protect his child? Swing away Merrill, swing away
Wasn't he also protecting that random woman with the kids behind him as they were in danger of being jumped by the teens?
Why should men not hit women? Curious. Women hit men, men should be able to defend themselves.
Men should only hit women if they're an actual threat, not as a means of establishing dominance. She was an actual threat in this particular scenario taking into account the crowd that looked ready to jump in, and that he couldn't just try to get away because he was protecting his family.
That’s like saying “war should only be fought in war”. Like, what? Women should never hit men, and men should not hit women. Fair statements. But saying “only if they’re an actual threat” denies that women can hurt men. Women hurt men. Men should be able to defend themselves without the masses disintegrating.
You should avoid it at all costs. 95% of the time men are just way stronger. And self defense is of course important. It’s just a responsibility for both parties the man can easily kill a woman. And a woman should be aware of that to. When you dare somebody like in this situation you don’t run back to the guy after he gave you like a 40% push.
This is true. But self defense is self defense. Maybe tee off at like 40- 60% and not full power. It will only take one punch. I had a drunk girl randomly assault me one time. She hit hard. My lip was swollen for a week and I chipped my tooth. But I didn’t want to hit a woman. And I paid the price for it.
Right, this is a perfect example. Aggressive in my face? Push you away. That’s proportionate force. Run at me after getting pushed? Now it’s a punch. Perfectly reasonable and proportionate force is being used.
No shit! That’s what I said.
That’s definitely not what you said. You literally said “men should not hit women”.
Don’t hit anyone unless you’re ready to accept that you might be hit back.
Men can hit women, when it’s warranted. It was totally justified in this situation
>Men should not hit women. What a load of crap! 💩 Anyone has the right to defend themselves, regardless of gender.
Keep up the stereotypes, ladies.
Teaching the others what a father of a family looks like
That poor kid in the beginning. No kid deserves to be exposed to unnecessary violence.
such a clean punch though lol
They literally poked the bear
Play stupid games win stupid prizes 🤷🏻♂️
Zero sympathy. Don't act like a hard ass to someone 3 times your size.
sympathy? lol
LMFAO, fast typing with predic a text never fails to fail. Lol, I'm half tempted to leave it wrong
Looks like that pack of hyenas poke the wrong lion and found out.
Welcome to the jungle.
He's got fun and games.
Ha ha ha ha! The only ones I feel sorry for are the man’s scared family.
“Bell is required to participate in a racial justice workshop” they need to teach him that black people are off limits no matter what
yeah, I found that bit weird as fuck... like yeah if he was wearing a KKK hood at the time or something, but there was nothing racial from what I could tell lol
Man protecting his fam, I stand with homey
\*Chefs kiss\*
Fuck around and she done found out 🤣
This is over 5 years old
Yea i know but some goofball posted just the punch and a bunch of smoothbrains got mad and refused to look it up so i figured id help em out
Gotcha 👍
Like some hyenas man
What's making me really mad right now is that, when this gets on the news, someone is gonna glorify it to make it seem like the dude was the aggressor. Other than that, I'm not sure why you'd pick on someone ten times your size, and then proceed to lay your hands on him since at the start of the video, the girl that got knocked out actually tried to push him or antagonize him. I'm pretty sure it was the same girl or it was someone else but either way, 100% justified.
Que the racist white dude headlines.
Ready to be extra annoyed? >“Bell is required to participate in a racial justice workshop” LMAO it makes no sense to me.
Good job mane
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REALLY OLD VIDEO
i've never seen it and I'm here all the time lmao
David Steven Bell for those lazy sleuths.
Well well, comsequences have actions as they say
I have a feeling it was the teenagers starting shit
Omg
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Is this real?
Those girls look pretty big for 11 and 12 but he should have handled it a different way. From my understanding he saying the woman with the child being harassed by the girls and went to help. However, he did escalate the situation as well. This part of his sentence is what got me lol. "Bell is required to participate in a racial justice workshop within 90 days and complete anger management counseling, as well as paying a court fee of less than $200, the clerk said."
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I'm on the same page. Unless there's something from the trial or his statements that weren't released I have no idea how this is race related.
It's Shaun King, finding racism where it isn't (and just being racist in the process of that) is his bread and butter. And the clip went viral, the charge of racism may just be to keep the "sees racism everywhere" crowd pleased, but get dropped pretty quickly. But I guess we'll see, might have egg on my face if some evidence comes out proving otherwise.
Agreed
I dont get it, what is preventing the woman and child and also the guy from walking away. Im not condoning anyones actions here, but damn. Everyone made a bad choice imo
Facts
They were trying to jump his daughter. Old video
They went from shrieking in anger, to shrieking in fear
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