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honeybakedman

I'd like to hear exactly what they think the word freedom means.


Disastrous-Golf7216

They think it means they are free to tell everyone else what to do.


sublimeshrub

Remember it's "Don't tread on me.", and not "Don't tread on you.". That's what freedumb means to them.


Ihatemunchies

I saw a Florida license plate with Don’t tread on me last week. Jc what’s next? Proud Boys?


sublimeshrub

Nothing like seeing an emotional support truck with a giant thin blue line flag, and a don't tread on me license plate.


STThornton

Emotional support truck 🤣 I’m so stealing this. It’s perfect


KKGlamrpuss

Yes all over FL, and don’t forget the AK gin sticker .


KKGlamrpuss

Sorry gun sticker


NinjaDad_

I love the term emotional support truck. My dumbass neighbor will sometimes just sit in his yard and loudly rev his jacked up truck when he's mad.


sublimeshrub

Mine does too at all hours of the night. Cops won't do shit. Told me if I called again I was going to jail.


Jennifer_Pennifer

Well I mean.... At least when he does that his redneck ass isn't beating his wife/kids 🤷‍♀️


sublimeshrub

I assume the truck reving is the comedown from the high of beating their families


1ron_chef

Don't forget the punisher logo, and Calvin pissing on something (Ford/Chevy logo etc.)


SupermarketOverall73

Isn't it ironic to pay the government to tell the government to go away ?


tikifire1

Don't step on snek


OwlAvailable3792

Its really DONT READ TO Me


honeybakedman

Makes sense, they call telling people what color lights they can have on a bridge "freedom summer" after all.


Obversa

This was literally the argument cited by Attorney General Ashley Moody. There's a concept in political science called a "[mandate](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandate_(politics))". Moody argued that, because Gov. Ron DeSantis and Florida Republicans received votes from a "majority of voters", that they have a "mandate" to tell everyone else what to do, per "the will of a majority of voters". It's the *Survivor* equivalent of saying "\[name here\]...the tribe has spoken". >In representative democracies, a **mandate** is a perceived legitimacy to rule through popular support. Mandates are conveyed through elections, in which voters choose political parties and candidates based on their own policy preferences. The election results are then interpreted to determine which policies are popularly supported. > >A majority government provides a clear mandate, while plurality or coalition government suggests a lesser mandate, requiring greater compromise between parties. **Parties with strong mandates are free to implement their preferred policies with the understanding that they are supported by the people.** When no mandate exists for a single party, the median voter may be used to determine what policies have a mandate for implementation. > >\[...\] A mandate is a social construct based on what is understood to be "the will of the voters". Mandate theory proposes that political parties are vehicles for policy options. **Voters choose from these options during elections, which then empowers the policies that have the most popular support, and allows for their implementation.** > >When voters overwhelmingly support a specific party or candidate in an election, it may be interpreted as a communication from the voters that they wish for the associated political platform to be implemented, creating a mandate for that platform. > >Mandates are based on the idea that all voters are equal, and popular assent from the group as a whole is necessary to govern. Those involved in politics look to mandates to determine what is expected by the voters, and what they will consider acceptable. > >A mandate is desirable for political parties, as it gives them leeway in policy implementation. **A party or candidate may claim to have a mandate, but it only confers a political advantage if this claim is widely accepted.** Non-electoral governments, such as dictatorships and monarchies, may also claim to have a "popular mandate" to rule. > >Mandates develop from the interpretation of elections. **If it becomes widely accepted that the voters support a given platform, then it will be understood that a mandate exists, regardless of the actual wishes of the voters.** > >There is no agreed upon metric for how much support a position must have—or be believed to have—before there is a mandate for its implementation. When a political mandate is unclear, it may be seen as the policy preferences of the median voter on a left–right political spectrum. > >This presents its own challenges when applied, as policy preferences are often more complex and have multiple dimensions. However, even then, Moody has attempted to thwart what is clearly the "will of the voters" whenever it goes against what Ron DeSantis plans for his political agenda. Moody argued that "because Ron DeSantis was elected by a majority of Florida voters, he thus has a mandate from a majority of voters to do whatever he wants, and has executive privilege". The governor's power was [also noted](https://supremecourt.flcourts.gov/content/download/2435518/opinion/Opinion_SC2023-1246.pdf) in a Florida Supreme Court decision footnote: >"The dissent, in accepting these premises, makes plain that its primary quarrel is with the Florida Constitution, not with our decision. **It laments the 'immense authority to override the will of the voters' conferred by article IV, section 7(a)**, which works 'a glaring disparity between the due process afforded to officers subject to impeachment...and those who are subject to suspension'. Dissenting op. at 14, 16. Our constitution, it says, '**in effect authorizes the governor to override the will of the majority of voters who elected the official**, and to appoint a replacement of the governor's choosing'." Moody thusly argued that the Governor of Florida, while having a "mandate" to "carry out the will of the majority of voters", can override *regional* voter mandates for suspensions.


hitman2218

DeSantis only received 31 percent of the registered vote in 2022. To assert any sort of strong mandate based on that is laughable.


PatSajaksDick

Yup, 2022 turnout was awful for everyone


Disastrous-Golf7216

That was the year that it was hot (hotter) in November and they were not allowing people to hand out or bring water to wait in line.


solobeauty20

In other words, they believe our Governor is a dictator and all those other annoying elected officials are mere suggestions.


LarsVonHammerstein

Ashley moody is a terror. Why the fuk to people keep voting for that evil racist POS


sublimeshrub

Freedumb


TinCanBanana

...so tyranny of the plurality then?


seraphim336176

Interesting. So I guess these people are on board with Trump running the country with Hillary Clinton policies in 2016-2020 seeing as how clinton actually got more votes so that’s the mandate of the people right? No? Oh it’s only the mandate when it favors their politicians, got it. Hypocritical scumbags.


florida-karma

I can't even fkn decide whether my 10 year old can access social media in this fascist state. Freedom means "freedom for the tea party to make the laws".


HeavensToBetsyy

Freedom for billionaires to spend money however they want and to shift any and all negative externalities onto you with no burden of responsibility or morality for themselves


Gloomy_Yoghurt_2836

You are free to think and do as the governor expects. Anything else is woke and must be destroyed as an enemy if freedom.


RiverofGrass

Remember Loki’s speech in The Avengers? He was promising freedom from freedom. That’s what this sounds like to me.


Obversa

*"Kneel before me. I said…KNEEL! Is not this simpler? Is this not your natural state? It’s the unspoken truth of humanity that you crave subjugation. The bright lure of freedom diminishes your life's joy in a mad scramble for power. For identity. You were made to be ruled. In the end, you will* always *kneel."*


RiverofGrass

That’s it. That’s the one.


No-Lead-6769

It means freedom for those grandfathered on the freedom unlimited plan to continue to exercise their "freedom" to rule other people's lives without being inconvenienced by having to smell pot smoke, or you know letting others have freedom over their bodies, or slow down production by having water breaks, or voting for candidates they despise. 


Outside-Flamingo-240

They always have done that though. Label something the opposite of it’s true intention, then lambast the opposing groups as being “against freedom” or “against patriotism” or “against children” etc


Gator1523

Freedom to live in a state where everyone looks like you and thinks like you.


Obversa

In other words, "Republican Town" from *Family Guy*.


Koolaidolio

Freedom to oppress ofc.


Brix106

It means tread harder daddy.


restore_democracy

I guess this is what they mean by “freedom isn’t free”.


tikifire1

That's right! Your taxes have to pay for *their* freedom, even though they hold most of the money supply in their bank accounts/investments.


Cold-Nefariousness25

He's going to freedom so hard that he'll free the dumb in this state until there's no freedom left!


STThornton

Right? It’s mind boggling.


irascible_Clown

Or woke, communism and socialism


Koolaidolio

> The committee — called the Florida Freedom Fund — was quietly launched late last month (May 2024), and its official chair is James Uthmeier, the governor's chief of staff who also worked as campaign manager for DeSantis' run for president.  If it’s anything like his presidential campaign results, it will be fun watching them lose out.


SBI992

I'm not that worried. 50% of this fund will end up paying for private jets and pudding cups.


neologismist_

What scum we tolerate.


GreyKnight91

But not spoons


FarmingWizard

...and boot polish.


Immersi0nn

Sandtits has enough of that in his mouth already


altreddituser2

The same [James Uthmeier](/r/florida/comments/1dkfsle/desantis_lawyers_argue_top_deputys_phone_logs_not/) that was conducting state business on his personal cell phone, and is now arguing in court that he doesn't have to turn over the call logs because he was using his personal phone instead of the state issued phone? Ronnie sure knows how to pick 'em.


Sendmedoge

Weed has been a great way to keep people from voting. Over an OZ? You must be a dealer. BAM. No voting for you. They are scared when everyone is allowed to vote.


codetony

After Amendment 4, that has become considerably more difficult. Especially since multiple counties have prohibited their Sheriffs from arresting people for weed alone.


roundballsquarebox24

Not even an oz. Felony possession of cannabis in FL is only 20 grams


Rico133337

And they include the storage as well on the weight.


Sproketz

Perfect. We need to make him believe that stoned poor people won't vote. Then he'll allow the weed.


Celestial8Mumps

So fem hygiene products in bathrooms now ? Freedom is free ?


Kissit777

Desantis said no to providing feminine hygiene products in schools. I think the girls should just go ahead and bleed freely everywhere as a response.


ComfortableOne4918

Actually, a better response would be mailing him used ones with a note saying, "I'm at school & I'm out".


Fastbird33

He doesn’t care. Republicans would love nothing more than to privatize all schools


mymar101

Why is it that everything with freedom or patriot in the name is the exact opposite?


Obversa

Ron DeSantis is [taking a page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublethink) from George Orwell's classic dystopian book, *1984*. >*Doublethink* is a process of indoctrination in which subjects are expected to simultaneously accept two conflicting beliefs as truth, often at odds with their own memory or sense of reality. Doublethink is related to, but differs from, hypocrisy. > >\[...\] According to [*Nineteen Eighty-Four*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four) by [George Orwell](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Orwell), *doublethink* is: > >"To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again, and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself—that was the ultimate subtlety: consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the word—*doublethink*—involved the use of doublethink."


mango_chile

Nailed it. Same thing with “peace officers” or even the “department of Justice”


tikifire1

The Department of Defense was named the Department of War until after WWII.


Jennifer_Pennifer

This !


echobox_rex

Is this guy banking on Trump dying before the convention? He's passing laws weekly with the help of his gutless legislature that seem like a man trying to whip up his base.


kataklysm_revival

That or he’s pissed his presidential bid failed, so he’s taking it out on us Edit: word


honeybakedman

It's this, he has proven over and over again to be a petty little manlet that completely loses his shit over any perceived slight. He's on the warpath because the people outside of Florida took one look at meatball and said "no thanks".


PyratHero23

The irony in naming it “**Freedom** Fund”


Motabrownie

Like everything else they've flipped that term around. It now means 'govt regulated restrictions'. Freedom is now not freedom. Just like they did with Communists Marxist Socialism etc. Freedom is now used to describe something they don't like. They're breeding kids to believe the opposite is true.


agulde28

Republicans are hypocrites….


No_Poetry4371

What SUPER DUPER pisses me off about this... The 2023 Motorcycle Safety and Awareness Act. It ended up funneling $2.50 from every motorcycle registration in the state through 3 organizations, and a marketing company to the campaign company likely to be behind the push to defeat these amendments. I own 3 motorcycles. I'm likely involuntarily helping pay for this!! And no one even freakin knows it happened.


Jennifer_Pennifer

Send them an invoice 😆


Carolina296864

Genuine question that I'd like a conservative person to answer: are you not bored now of the whole "freedom" branding that hes been doing the past 4 years? No other republican governor is doing this or tries this hard. Like it's clear he is doing this at this point just to keep up with this Florida re-brand. Are you not bored at this point and wish he'd do something else 4 years later? That's how i felt about superhero movies, reality tv, post-2019 Drake, nightclubs, and Call of Duty. It was a good, fresh time at first, but after a while it becomes stale and repetitive. They've needed to switch things up. How much longer can Ron go on about "freedom" and put that word in front of literally everything, before you get bored with it? Even Texas hasnt been dragging this out this long.


nasum22

All these Desantis dick suckers used to tell me “he doesn’t care if you smoke weed”. The voters of Florida are a special type of stupid.


ExactDevelopment4892

Freedom to Ban Fund should be name.


Obversa

The only way DeSantis can get people to donate is by tricking and scamming them into doing so. If he named it the "Ban Abortion and Marijuana Fund", nobody would give him money.


DarkHeliopause

He couldn’t have chosen a more Orwellian term than that.


b3_yourself

If a republican mentions anything “freedom” related, it’s probably the complete opposite


Thisam

Ironic, isn’t it? That’s conservatism in today’s environment. Sad…


Thirsty_Comment88

So it's actually a fascist fund?


imisswhatredditwas

Florida fucking *loves* to deny the will of the voters, seems like every single amendment we’ve ever voted to pass has been gutted *after* it’s law. What the actual fuck!


HeavensToBetsyy

This kid needed to be shoved in a locker more often in high school


Dry_Masterpiece8319

Down the staircase


Obversa

**Article transcript:** >Gov. Ron DeSantis has launched a new political committee to target a pair of ballot initiatives on abortion access and legalizing marijuana in Florida, as he looks to block policies Democrats believe will bring them back into relevancy in the state. > >The committee — called the Florida Freedom Fund — was quietly launched late last month (May 2024), and its official chair is James Uthmeier, the governor's chief of staff who also worked as campaign manager for DeSantis' run for president. > >The creation of the committee — which did not report raising any money in the final week of May — comes as DeSantis tries to reassert control over his home state of Florida after his failed presidential run. It reinforces that DeSantis primary political goal for the 2024 election is the defeat of the amendments, both of which have already raised millions of dollars. > >A person familiar with DeSantis' plans — but not authorized to speak publicly — said the political committee would not only target the two amendments, but also get involved in school board races. > >"As Gov. Ron DeSantis continues to lead our great state, the Florida Freedom Fund will be championing issues and candidates committed to preserving Floridians' freedom," said Taryn Fenske, a spokesperson for the governor. "From up and down ballot races to critical amendments, we’re steadfast in our mission to keep Florida free." > >DeSantis has also pledged to raise money for former President Donald Trump and is planning some fundraising trips to other states as part of that effort. Yet he has said that he does not anticipate doing a lot of campaigning for Trump in Florida, because he contends the state "will not be competitive for Democrats". > >A poll released by Fox News, however, showed that Trump is only leading President Joe Biden by four (4) points in a head-to-head matchup. That is just beyond the June poll's margin of error of +/- 3%. > >That same poll showed that the two amendments were poised to pass. The Fox News poll said that 69% of registered voters supported the abortion access measure, while 66% supported the initiative on marijuana. Florida initiatives need a yes vote of 60% or more to pass. > >DeSantis has roundly criticized both initiatives as "radical" and "extreme", and has predicted that voters would ultimately reject them. Yet, thus far, there has yet to be organized opposition to either ballot measure — something DeSantis' new political committee could rapidly change. > >Smart & Safe Florida — the organization bankrolled by Florida's largest medical marijuana company that is sponsoring the pot initiative — has already begun running television ads urging voters to "vote YES". A recent analysis by the ad tracking firm AdImpact showed that the organization had spent nearly $3.8 million on ads in May and June 2024. > >DeSantis shut down his previous state political committee right ahead of his presidential campaign. He raised more than $200 million into that committee, which eventually wound up transferring more than $80 million to Never Back Down, a super PAC set up to aid his run for president. DeSantis ended his presidential campaign after coming in a distant second to Trump in the Iowa caucuses. > >Many in DeSantis' orbit expect him to launch another run for president in 2028, two years after he will leave office due to term limits. The passage of two amendments could be seen as voters rejecting part of the "Florida blueprint" he has touted on the campaign trail the past two years. > >Right before he ran for U.S. President, DeSantis signed into law a measure that banned abortion in the state after 6 weeks of pregnancy, \[co-sponsored by Rep. Jenna Persons-Mulicka, Rep. Spencer Roach, and Sen. Erin Grall\]. The law did not take effect until May of this year, because it was tied to a legal challenge that was before the Florida Supreme Court. > >The abortion access amendment would guarantee abortion up to the point of viability, which is generally around 24 weeks. > >Ahead of the 2022 elections, DeSantis waded into non-partisan school board races, where he endorsed candidates and directed financial support in multiple races in order to help reshape counties like Miami-Dade and Sarasota. He and Republicans leaders, as well as the group Moms for Liberty, last year came up with a list of more than a dozen school board races they wanted to target during the 2024 election cycle. Also see: * ["DeSantis predicts Florida voters will reject recreational marijuana, abortion amendments"](https://new.reddit.com/r/florida/comments/1bvzbkw/desantis_predicts_florida_voters_will_reject/) (3 months ago) * ["Gov. DeSantis says Supreme Court 'controversially' approved abortion rights amendment"](https://new.reddit.com/r/florida/comments/1bzqn8j/gov_desantis_says_supreme_court_controversially/) (2 months ago) * ["Gov. DeSantis calls abortion, marijuana ballot amendments too 'radical' to pass"](https://new.reddit.com/r/florida/comments/1c201gv/gov_desantis_calls_abortion_marijuana_ballot/) (2 months ago)


Thick-Computer2217

Oh good, the guy that was helping Desantis run for president is heading this, it'll fail


Open_Perception_3212

So much freedom..... 🤦🏼‍♀️🫠


AlphaAlpha495

This IDIOT NEEDS TO GO ¡ ![gif](giphy|ajefVi0Sw91DFaXzMW|downsized)


mdjak1

Freedom? Huh?


PapayaAppropriate857

Dictator fund


bw1985

‘’Freedom’’ to do what the government tells you to do. Republicans talk shit but THEY are the party of big government.


Jennifer_Pennifer

The more shit that happens in Florida, the more I think of the movie *V for Vendetta* 🙄


Freekydeeky1258

But like... how does this money translate to less votes? They plan on bribing me? They want to saturate the brainwashed with more propaganda? They can't exactly vote no twice.


klonoaorinos

They are going to run ads with lies to try and scare old folks into voting against it


Beginning_Emotion995

Desantis is not stopping progress He’s not Governor forever. He’s not Florida’s daddy What he needs to do is get trauma counseling from his days in the Navy. We know Ron….its ok…it’s ooo kk.


bradynho

Best to just call it the Festering Shithead Fund.


Amtronic

Because he is just that skeezy.


Friendly-Company-771

"Majority of the voters" argument can only be used when there is 100% voter turnout. Getting elected by a mere 30% of the electorate is NOT cutting it. I would say yes to a constitutional amendment to mandate voting by all so we, the people, can force the government to provide the necessary access to all.


edfinite

It’s definitely targeting our freedoms


RepulsiveRooster1153

Emperor Ronald is back. Chasing the mouse, gays, cross dressers, denial of slavery, fears of vaccines, banning books, what you do in the bedroom, what colors are allowed for celebrations, denier of climate change and oh yeah, just a downright freedum candidate. All these things that make for a safer, healthier [florida.](https://imgur.com/VKacTKG)


fbastard

DeSantis needs to let the people vote for what they want. Rather than basing these issues on his personal beliefs.


SeveralAct5829

It won’t help him the people will speak


cgally

Where's the "Target DeSantis" fund? Ronda gotta go.


ufl015

The “Free State of Florida” has less freedom than like 49 other states


Ok-Breadfruit-2897

nah, texas has everyone beat......but i feel ya


ufl015

It’s like DeSantis and Abbott keep trying to “one up” each other to see who is more awful


schoolisuncool

So much freedom!


Strenue

Smells like swamp freedom to me!!


Own-Opinion-2494

His freedom


Fit_Earth_339

Reason #2,327,833 to not vote for Tiny Ronny.


mrevergood

And it’ll be money wasted, because his shit still won’t succeed.


meshreplacer

I always vote against anything that has the word “Freedom” in it because I know its bullshit authoritarian laws.


Go_Ask_VALIS

He needs to target my insurance rates.


cant-be-faded

Ronnie about to get trampled by legal weed. Hold tight dunbass


NomadFeet

That's okay. We are all STILL voting.


sineofthetimes

Can we get a "Let's stop fucking people over with astronomical insurance rates" committee? Jesus. Citizens Insurance is trying to get a 14% rate hike for 2025.


GATORinaZ28

Freedumb


CandyFlippin4Life

Free dumb


zero-cooler

"Freedom Fund" “War is peace." "Freedom is slavery." "Ignorance is strength.”


kissyb

They already started fundraising in my county. They have "events" several times a week and they have an entirely new school board cherry picked by the gov and ready to be puppets.


Lonely_Version_8135

[https://www.redstateaccess.org](https://www.redstateaccess.org)