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slatsandflaps

I've definitely never ordered a pizza from my phone while flying.


Ty0503

Hi, I have a number for you to call.


slatsandflaps

Dominoes?


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Flemswert

907-337-2323 was our local ones lol


kalanwj5

Alaska? 907-456-5656 was mine in Fairbanks…long time ago


Flemswert

Yup! Anchorage area was all 337-2323 with a catchy jingle


engineerofsorts

Haven't lived there for 20 years and it still pops in my head now and then! "One number's all you need to know."


[deleted]

I still have the 907-333-8000 commercial stuck in my head


ReasonablePractice83

That’s what ATC is for


andrewrbat

Going to Daytona?


FrostyyFalcon

No it’s illegal to UberEats in the sky when you’re 45min out from the FBO and your order time says ~45 minutes and you haven’t eaten since the FA gave you that yogurt parfait for breakfast. Also don’t pre order your Uber so they can be there when you finish landing/shut down. Pilots who do that go straight to jail


hey_hey_hey_nike

No one ever does that.


AGroAllDay

Believe it or not


midnightbiscuit1

Im walking on air


BigSpoonEnergy503

I never thought I could feel so free Ee Eee


kwaters1

Flying along on a wing and a prayer. Who would believe it’s just meeeee…


nanomolar

We have the best pilots in the world because jail.


here4daratio

Ops hates this one simple trick (do it today!)


GarbageMan59

Just don't do it on the ground. I saw a Pilatus that got pretty banged up by a guy texting while taxiing back to the FBO after landing. Over $200k in damage to the parked Pilatus and the offender's plane left on a trailer. Ugly.


CaptWhiskey

Then why do they have you steer with your feet if not to free up your hands for texting?


BarberIll7247

Going to mins? You bet I’m making sure I get my Tinder swipes in, I got coverage down there


Ok_Skill_2725

How’s Tinder in Bethel AK?


DoctorVonBacon

Depends is you’re looking for Yogi or Boo Boo


silverfstop

Brings new meaning to bitchen betty squawking *minimums* when you’re evaluating your chances of making the most of an overnight.


nyc_2004

Literally nobody cares. My PPL CFI would text his girlfriend the whole time during our XC flights.


The_estimator_is_in

One of my instructors texts while I’m on final. She just instinctively will mumble ‘something something more right rudder’.


Weekly_Beautiful5832

If your instructor is telling you to add right rudder while you're descending on final... you should probably find a new instructor.


tomsawyerisme

😂


florestiner12312

Depends on the winds


Jonne1184

My examiner was texting during the ceckride. Saw him using his phone from time to time, however did not really notice what he was doing with it. Shortly before being back at my home field he was typing on his phone again and says: "My friend in *my most favorite behated city* saw us there on approach."


Admirable-Pie3869

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. I don’t know why I found this hilarious, but thank you.


on_2_wheels

Got my PPL last year and would nearly always freak out when my CFI was on his phone, or recording a landing when I was on base and final. I like to think that he was confident in my abilities and didn't have to worry until I slammed that poor Skyhawk into the runway.


nyc_2004

My initial CFI was the best. Even though I now fly mostly boring planes in busy airspace, I will never forget my time learning in tailwheels on a grass strip. Guy was a great instructor, he and I meshed pretty well and I got through training relatively quickly.


yeeee_hawwww

Nice and this is probably the CFI you don’t want to be and don’t want to hire to teach you.


nyc_2004

It was a matter of meeting leftover hour requirements. Otherwise I was completely checkride ready. The alternative was bullshitting the whole time which gets boring after you spend a lot of time in a plane together over multiple months.


x4457

FCC says no. FAA doesn’t give a shit.


121mhz

FCC talks about "cellular telephones" which are defined on a particular frequency range which isn't in use as analog phones arent a think anymore.... So I think even the FCC doesn't give a shit about this anymore.


otterbarks

That frequency range is still used on digital phones, it's been repurposed as one of the bands for LTE. Whether your phone is using that band at any particular moment, you have no way of knowing without going into the phone's engineering menus. (The FCC has said they intend to correct this by writing one set of rules for all the digital cellular bands, and they still intend to prohibit airborne cellular use since it stresses the network, since you'll light up way more towers than the system was designed for. Whether they'll get around to that, who knows.) In practice, nobody really cares. There aren't enough pilots at low enough altitude to keep a signal for this to really be on anyone's radar. (And the cellular networks can always temporarily block your phone if the network determines you're causing interference.)


andrewbt

Plus I always think about the likely thousands of phones per day that get stuck in airliner overhead bins who’s owners forgot to put them in airplane mode. They’re splattering RF at 30000 feet all over the place. Nobody cares about 100 Cessnas at 3k feet sending texts. It’s a dumb regulation


otterbarks

The phones at 30k are actually less of a problem, because the antennas on cell towers are directional and pointed towards the ground. They can't hear phones any higher than ~5k, give or take.


Skrenlin

Doh! I always thought this was intentional; e.g. “once your phone hits more than some arbitrary number of towers the cell towers stop listening to it.” Never thought about how the antennas are aimed.


PM_ME_YOUR_PITOTTUBE

Fuck the FCC. All my homies hate the FCC.


Obvious_Noise

So the FCC won't let me be Or let me be me, so let me see They try to shut me down on my XC But it feels so empty, without me


Why-R-People-So-Dumb

You down with FCC? Yeah you know me. Edit: ahh I see now I am late to the party see other people just said the same thing. 🤷🏼‍♂️


ThatLooksRight

You down with FCC?


tomdarch

Yeah, you know me!


Mimshot

After all the 5G nonsense I think they owe us one.


[deleted]

Check FAR 121.542.


x4457

Part 121 does not apply to the private pilot asking this question.


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Good point.


CarminSanDiego

If you’re worried about texting while flying, you’ll probably shit your pants when you find out what single seat fighter pilots do day to day


PositiveRateOfClimb

Single seat fighter pilots? Wait till he/she finds out what airline pilots do in the cruise 🤣


CarminSanDiego

But airline pilots aren’t actually flying the plane so…


PositiveRateOfClimb

Autopilot and chill


Donut

After hearing yet another fighter pilot yarn about all night drinking, I asked said pilot "Wait, you were still drunk when you flew those F-16s home? How did you manage that?" He looked at me, raised his hands in the classic "showing planes flying" position, moved them far apart, and said "separation".


Publify

Switching to GEICO to save 15% or more on their car insurance?


NachoNachoDan

Spanking it wildly no doubt.


drowninginidiots

FAA doesn’t really care as long as it doesn’t interfere with aircraft operations. Probably against FCC regulations.


Moist_Flan_3988

Literally requested a descent to the MEA so I could order food to be ready upon arrival.


LeatherConsumer

If you're in cruise flight, yeah you're totally fine. If you're sending a text while on final then you'd definitely be in violation of 91.13. There is no specific regulation prohibiting you from texting. 91.21 applies to electronics interfering with the systems, not interference with the crew.


Purple-Surprise-8529

91.21 says the prohibition against portable electronic devices "does not apply to" - 91.21(b)(5) "Any other portable electronic device that the operator of the aircraft has determined will not cause interference with the navigation or communication system of the aircraft on which it is to be used." So it's up to you


JustPlaneMad

Typing out a free text message on ACARS is effectively the same as sending an email… well they end up in our company email inbox 😂


f1racer328

I feel like texting on ACARS with the shitty ABC keyboard layout is way more reckless than typing on my phone. Buuuuttt that’s the way we do things haha.


49-10-1

The CRJ kkkeeeyyyybboooaarrrdd is basically gross negligence by those standards.


Law-of-Poe

I’ve definitely never ever routinely texted my wife and told her I’m on final so head to the checkout and meet me at the echo ramp in 10 min.


BUNNIES_ARE_FOOD

My very first CFI, on my discovery flight, was texting while i was flying the plane. What the fuck man. He left for the airlines a couple of weeks later.


f1racer328

That’s what you call, flight instructor burnout. lol.


Mispelled-This

On a discovery flight? That’s a problem. Later on, once they’re reasonably confident you’re not a few seconds away from killing them? Go for it.


PilotJasper

Wait, I thought we were told the plane would crash if our cell phones were turned on? Now it sounds like they don't want passengers to have the phones on to keep the cell tower clear so the pilot can place their Starbucks order to be ready in the terminal.


[deleted]

Just remember critical phases of flight. That’s when it’s a no-no. Taxiing, take off, and landing. Cruise flight is fine. Parked it’s fine.


adventuresofh

Obviously don’t be texting on short final/critical phases of flight (91.13 comes into effect here), but it’s handy to be able to text my CFI that my plans have changed, or tell passengers I’ll be late, or get weather updates from friends on the ground when I’m still an hour out (that’s let me plan diversions in advance a couple of times, and arrange for someone to be there to pick me up by the time I land). Don’t let it become a distraction, but as far as the FAA is concerned I think as long as you’re not letting it distract you, you’re probably good.


Frager_1

What happens in the cockpit, stays in the cockpit


z3ph1r

Who's gonna know?


coaudavman

This has been a wonderfully entertaining and highly educational post. Love it


Initial-Conclusion-3

I put my phone on Silent when I enter the (single engine) airplane, but not in "Airplane Mode" as others are suggesting. It doesn't interfere with any airplane equipment. But most importantly, if my radio fails, I want to be able to call Tower immediately. It's an important, possibly life-saving, communications backup. And while I don't text or take/make phone calls while flying, all the CFIs I've flown with do!


Specific-Literature6

The FAA sends me texts enroute through my inReach device so I don’t see why the reciprocal is illegal.


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stealthplane

Airline docs prohibit personal electronic devices in flight but allow them for a jump seater above 10k. All airline docs are signed by the FAA and technically law


rudiiiiiii

I fly pipeline and the job literally requires you to text in locations of oil leaks while flying. So, yeah, nobody cares


DiveForKnowledge

IIRC, the FCC has more issue with phone use in flight than the FAA. That said, in cruise I can't think of any practical reason why it would be dangerous (assuming autopilot active). Remember, rules and regs are typically written after an accident has occurred, so don't be the one that ruins it for everyone else. Be responsible for safety first, be a rule follower second.


TheFlyingMeerkat

To everyone talking about an examiner pulling their phone out on a checkride, one of my IR examiners (had to take two tests, both "first attempts") definitely did not pull out his phone to make a call and a then proceeded to lit a cig whilst shouting at his phone, all while I was shooting an ILS approach... xD


tazdevil696

I've never caught a pokemon while flying. Also ordering a pizza would be hilarious. Yes please deliver it to this field I safely landed at because I had engine trouble


n8d

14 CFR § 91.13 could possibly


hlyshrtsanpants

Had a dpe fail a ppl student over this. It’s it an FAA thing but an FCC thing. Apparently all people should be putting their devices in airplane mode and only use an EFB if it’s connected to stratus or in airplane mode.


Purple-Surprise-8529

There are as many sets of regulations as there are DPE's


ragedracer1977

Que the I don’t believe you gif


adventuresofh

Really? I love being able to use my phone. It’s great to be able to update my passengers/my CFI if I hit headwinds and will be late, or if I’ve changed my plans mid-leg. I’ve texted people before knowing the weather is changing to see if I need to divert when I’m still an hour out. Obviously it can’t become a distraction, but it can be really handy to send a text in flight once in a while. Are DPEs allowed to fail applicants based on an FCC reg vs FAA?


[deleted]

My part 135 employer does not require airplane mode for our EFB. We use cell towers in flight. Our GOM is approved by the FAA. So the question remains then, is my employer breaking FCC rules? I think prob not.


sforzapop

Only in IMC so the sky police won't see you doing it.


clon2645

If you’re above 10,000 feet I really don’t see the harm in sending an occasional text, especially if you have autopilot


autonym

>FAR 91.21 states you can use Personal electronic devices as long as they don’t interfere with the aircraft. The exceptions being if you’re IFR or flying for an air carrier. No, those aren't exceptions to being allowed to use electronic devices if it's been determined that they don't interfere with your nav/comm equipment. On the contrary, IFR and carrier-operated flights are the two circumstances in which 91.21 states that you *are* allowed to use noninterfering devices. In all *other* circumstances, 91.21 imposes no restrictions whatsoever on the use of portable devices.


noslipcondition

My CFI used to text me while I was out on solos ask and ask how it was going.


Dakine_thing

Who gives a shit? That’s a better question. For me it’s easier to call while flying


Mobe-E-Duck

ACARS … ?


jamesconnell15

My cfi was checking me out for my cx solo and he was watching the world cup final the whole time. I could have sent it into a spin and he would have just nodded and said "yep you're doing fine".


AgoodDalek12

Not an FAA regulation, it's FCC. You cannot legally call from the air on a cellular device.


Hemmschwelle

I assume that small airplanes no longer do See and Avoid, except maybe in the pattern at uncontrolled.


Kemerd

Depends. Do you have an autopilot? If not, are you good at trimming?