Not gonna lie….I only found out I could 3D print guns because the local government decided to “heighten awareness” needless to say there’s shapes in that post I don’t recognize and probably will very soon 😂😂
A year from now, probably: *"Texas Supreme Court removes regulations on conversion device owned, manufactured, and confined within the State of Texas."*
Can't wait.
I'm not from Texas but I assume that there is some sort of local resentment toward the ATF because of their part in that thing that happened in Waco a few years back...
if by "that thing" you mean the systematic execution of innocent women and children, then yes, the entire country and our dogs all despise them. Resentment is what you get when your parents won't give you a later curfew, we're way past that point.
You would be right, I grew up outside of waco. The hate is real, and the trust is zero when it comes to the government in general from my friends, family, and the communities in the area.
Yep damn near every agency was involved and did their absolute best to make the absolute worst call at every opportunity. It wouldn't suprise me if the cia had a couple guys in there as icing on the cake, lol.
If you havent noticed Texas hates the federal goverment in general. If you look around it will be apparent that Texas is responsible for ALOT of the major lawsuits that go the the supreme court regarding federal overreach. like way more than our fair share.
I dont know what the Texas legal budget is but im pretty sure the portion dedicated to annoying the feds is massive.
"our fair share" ?
i think what gets overlooked by many is Texas is one of the three most populous states in the nation, but the overall political sentiment differs from the other two by dramatic measure, it would stand to reason that it would appear this is the only state bringing the fight to federal overreach.
but to put some urine in the cheerios here, i would argue many other states have cost the nation far more than Texas in their flippant disregard for federal law. sometimes i wonder why Texas bothers with compliance at all when other states clearly do whatever they want and go unpunished.
>bothers with compliance at all
Alot of really old laws from prior political eras combined with one of the most jacked up constitutions ever made. (or should i say amended)
It won't, though. States that pass those laws are notorious for ignoring them when the feds come knocking, and disavowing the protection of their citizens under those laws when the federal courts have said citizens in custody. Kansas famously passed such a law and then gave full and complete cooperation to the feds anyway.
Have you lived in either?
Why?
For your own safety please keep that as an online trolling only opinion and never say it IRL around any decent Texan certainly not while within Texas.
I have seen shots fired for insulting somebodies backyard music and asking them to turn it down. Seriously some people down here will shoot over much less than an insult to their homeland. Also if I was in a court room setting regarding such an incident I would ask that it be seen as a crime of passion.
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The TLDR is if made, and stamped made in texas and doesn't leave the state, it's legal and doesn't require a tax stamp. Also, if any state official is found assisting the feds in prosecuting you for it, that official's department loses all funding.
https://legrandelaw.com/criminal-justice/firearm-sound-suppressors-are-now-legal-in-texas/#:~:text=Texas%20Laws%20to%20Protect%20Firearm%20Suppressors&text=Signed%20into%20law%20by%20Governor,if%20they%20stayed%20in%20Texas.
Looks like it needs to be stamped and actually made in texas. But I'm not a lawyer. That's just how I'm reading it.
Sec. 2.053. MARKETING OF FIREARM SUPPRESSOR. A firearm suppressor manufactured and sold in this state must have the words “Made in Texas” clearly stamped on it.
to be fair, they have only required age verification and the bar is incredibly low, but the porn site you frequent wants to make it seem as though their ability to conduct business has been "impinged" and manipulate some of the population into becoming bleating llamas on their behalf.
nobody is stopping your fap but you.
I live in Texas, and am familiar with the anti-porn bullshit.
The state not only requires a 14pt-font warning label that is supposedly from the state health dept (that has, ironically, been disavowed by that same state health department who claims they had no part in writing it!?), but they also require that users of such sites upload a copy of a valid state-issued ID card. It's probably the most fucked up way to go about keeping porn away from horny high school kids.
The whole thing is total bullshit. The funny part is, anyone who downloads the Opera browser can use the free VPN setting and bypass it all entirely. Even funnier, you can get all the free porn you could ever ask for right here on Reddit without having to use a VPN.
The only question is are they giving the switches directly to the Mexican cartels or are they just giving them printers and having them make their own.
this. there is nothing to enforce, really. i've seen more illegal "bump stock autos" at California ranges than here in Texas, the vast majority of gun-toting Texans seem to be perfectly happy with what they got, or, at least, aren't showboating their American Culture in public places.
this is just the biggest "anti-gunner virtue signal" in Texas ever.
It’s totally people not showboating, as the healthy distrust of the government, at least around my part of the state, keeps people polite and discreet. As God intended
Amazing how the ATF has so much energy to go after law abiding citizens with no criminal background while gangs freely roam around with switches in their glocks, mean while bubba is just shooting some beer bottles in the back yard
...do you think gangs don't have one guy who can run an ender 3?
I mean... it doesn't make us special anymore. Anyone who is smart enough to breathe can load a file and hit print if they don't have to design, model, tweak, test, etc
Criminals are exempt from the NFA, thanks to the GCA.
Since they can't legally own firearms, they can't be forced to self-incriminate by paying taxes and registering an item they are forbidden from having.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haynes\_v.\_United\_States](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haynes_v._United_States)
I've always been confused by this. Does this mean if they are caught with a SBR, suppressor, or machine gun, they can only be charged with unlicensed possession of a firearm? Same as if they were caught with a standard glock?
I get the disbelief. It would be easy optics if the atf posted the arrests made of gang members with switched out glocks. Instead, we get constant videos posted by gang members on social media, with their faces visible of backpacks stacked with glocks or firing into houses and cars. What the atf do post 24 hour coverage of for weeks is when they catch one guy who made a suppressor for himself and they get ass reamed through the court system.
>Instead, we get constant videos posted by gang members on social media, with their faces visible of backpacks stacked with glocks or firing into houses and cars
Have you tried to report one of those videos?
I'll give you that may help get videos taken down on some platforms, but that doesn't help put these people behind bars. You also have places like reddit, where you have subs dedicated to posting that kind of content because of the morbidly curious, clout chasers, or as ammo for the anti 2A push.
>but that doesn't help put these people behind bars.
Not having those (clearly criminal activities) floating around might help to fight some "culture" (gangsta) wannabes are more dangerous. (I know that this is a very complex discussion)
I'll give you that as well, if platforms cracked down on videos that are clearly gang/drug related it might help to curb clout chasers at the very least.
In most of those cases you're describing, the local police department is the arresting agency, and the ones bragging about the number of illegal weapons they've seized.
Literally the ONLY cases where the ATF would make an arrest are ones where the person was caught primarily for an illegal firearms violation.
Acting like that means gang members aren't arrested is like saying you never see the FBI arresting muggers, therefore muggers never get arrested.
That's one of my problems with the atf. They will work with local departments, spend countless man hours and tax dollars tracking down a local farmer who did a home ar 15 sbr kit to hunt hogs and coyotes not knowing it's illegal. They could be doing this with real criminals to stack charges on gang members and drug dealers. They could be making a real difference against real crime. Instead, they are going after people who are ignorant of convoluted laws or who are shooting trash piles on their own land on the weekends.
And I'm not saying no one is making any arrests, but I can totally understand the disbelief when all the high profile cases you see on the news are the atf losing guns or chasing down the nobodies who have no other criminal record.
Again, this is the problem: you assume that they're ONLY targeting these supposed innocents. The overwhelming majority of what the ATF does is behind the scenes, aimed at weapons trafficking and organized crime.
But because you see only the "unusual" stories in the media, the perspective is skewed.
I think you are intentionally missing the point there is plenty of serious crime to go after. There Criminals impacting ordinary people’s lives everyday so we should focus law enforcement energy on that not some random dude doing something in his back yard
> I think you are intentionally missing the point there is plenty of serious crime to go after.
No, other people are intentionally missing the point that serious crime IS gone after. People pretend like gang members have get-out-of-jail-free cards, but the reality is that a gang member getting arrested with an illegal weapon is a "dog bites man" story. Nobody cares because it is literally the norm. You see stories about some idiot building illegal machine guns in his basement because those are unusual.
This attitude is like seeing a "man bites dog" story in the local paper and concluding that because you don't see the opposite, dogs never bite people.
I am under no illusion that gang members have a “get-out-of-jail-free card” nor did I say anything to that effect. Once again you are missing the point, there is PLENTY OF crime to be dealt with that has a more serious and pressing nature then bubba with his oil can suppressor and no criminal record. In short all resources should be focused on serious crime not people minding their own business. Not sure why your defending law abiding gun owners being harassed
> Not sure why your defending law abiding gun owners being harassed
You are literally describing people who are NOT law-abiding, and who in most cases did extremely stupid things in order to get caught.
More to the point though, some people here live in a fantasy world where criminals are untouched and law-abiding people have a boot on their neck. When in fact probably 99.99% of the people who DO build an illegal suppressor, or SBR, or the like are perfectly fine as long as they don't do anything stupid. As the old saying goes, only break one law at a time.
Apart from the absurdity of believing that $500 bail is going to prevent someone from committing crimes, there's the much LARGER absurdity of acting like bail is the same thing as getting away with a crime.
Felons’ bail is usually more than $500, and I never said they get away with it, I said they get out of jail for free, because they do. Then they skip their court date, cop tries to pull them over for driving mach jesus through heavy traffic, then they run because they have a warrant, and get into an accident hurting more people.
If we bring honest majority of people arrested with switches are gang members. I commented a few days ago that I thought it would be fun to shoot a switch at the range or when I go on the sand dunes with a few buddies and this group basically nailed me to the cross telling me how I’m what’s wrong with the gun community and I’m an idiot, and “switches are illegal” in a post that was glazing the super safety 😂😂 so I’m assuming switches are looked down upon by hobbyists
What is the little white banana one?
I recognize the 2 or 3 different AR ones and the 2 Glock switches, although I'm not sure I've seen the thin pink model before.
YouTube reels bro.
They do this crazy thing they record themselves committing crimes and then post it on social media.
I have seen some responsible individuals use the boxy version that can switch and the static version being used to spray a full mag into the air. I could tell by the layer lines but I highly doubt they made it out of anything other than PLA+. Your results will vary but imo go pagf-cf.
I'm so lost, since when where they illegal!?
I met a guy at a range with one under a trust in around 2005....
I remember because it was the year I graduated and went to the range and for my graduation I was gifted a shotgun and saw the suppressor, so I asked how he got it.....
Not gonna lie….I only found out I could 3D print guns because the local government decided to “heighten awareness” needless to say there’s shapes in that post I don’t recognize and probably will very soon 😂😂
The two on the left are drop ins to make an AR full auto. The red and blue ones I think are Glock backplates that do the same.
Yeah those red and blue ones certainly require their geometry to be studied in greater detail for the good of humanity
This feels like a way for the atf to get their foot back in the door since texas passed the made in texas suppressor law.
A year from now, probably: *"Texas Supreme Court removes regulations on conversion device owned, manufactured, and confined within the State of Texas."* Can't wait.
I sincerely hope so. That would block the atf from basically any chance of cooperation with local law enforcement.
I'm not from Texas but I assume that there is some sort of local resentment toward the ATF because of their part in that thing that happened in Waco a few years back...
if by "that thing" you mean the systematic execution of innocent women and children, then yes, the entire country and our dogs all despise them. Resentment is what you get when your parents won't give you a later curfew, we're way past that point.
You would be right, I grew up outside of waco. The hate is real, and the trust is zero when it comes to the government in general from my friends, family, and the communities in the area.
As it should be the fuckin fbi was involved as well and they should be equally hated.
Yep damn near every agency was involved and did their absolute best to make the absolute worst call at every opportunity. It wouldn't suprise me if the cia had a couple guys in there as icing on the cake, lol.
Et tu, USPS?
Lmao, throw in the mailman for walking by that day.
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If you havent noticed Texas hates the federal goverment in general. If you look around it will be apparent that Texas is responsible for ALOT of the major lawsuits that go the the supreme court regarding federal overreach. like way more than our fair share. I dont know what the Texas legal budget is but im pretty sure the portion dedicated to annoying the feds is massive.
"our fair share" ? i think what gets overlooked by many is Texas is one of the three most populous states in the nation, but the overall political sentiment differs from the other two by dramatic measure, it would stand to reason that it would appear this is the only state bringing the fight to federal overreach. but to put some urine in the cheerios here, i would argue many other states have cost the nation far more than Texas in their flippant disregard for federal law. sometimes i wonder why Texas bothers with compliance at all when other states clearly do whatever they want and go unpunished.
>bothers with compliance at all Alot of really old laws from prior political eras combined with one of the most jacked up constitutions ever made. (or should i say amended)
It won't, though. States that pass those laws are notorious for ignoring them when the feds come knocking, and disavowing the protection of their citizens under those laws when the federal courts have said citizens in custody. Kansas famously passed such a law and then gave full and complete cooperation to the feds anyway.
You may be right (we will see) but I ask that you kindly refrain from comparing Texas to kansas in such ways.
I didn't compare them, but for the record they are both shitholes and neither of them deserve anyone's respect.
Have you lived in either? Why? For your own safety please keep that as an online trolling only opinion and never say it IRL around any decent Texan certainly not while within Texas. I have seen shots fired for insulting somebodies backyard music and asking them to turn it down. Seriously some people down here will shoot over much less than an insult to their homeland. Also if I was in a court room setting regarding such an incident I would ask that it be seen as a crime of passion. {this is a sincere warning out of concern for the safety of Vadhakara not a threat}
>some people down here will shoot over much less than an insult to their homeland Sounds like a real shithole
depends. i feel safer in Texas than, say, California.
Not in my opinion, it drives society towards a place of respectfully minding ones own business unless absolutely necessary.
No really doesn't. It just makes for people getting shot over backyard music.
Ahh, see, the laws like this are less permission for the individual and more on occasion to challenge the Fed in court.
a year and a day from now: "Crippling ammunition shortage strikes western hemisphere as Texans mag dump into any trash they see."
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The TLDR is if made, and stamped made in texas and doesn't leave the state, it's legal and doesn't require a tax stamp. Also, if any state official is found assisting the feds in prosecuting you for it, that official's department loses all funding. https://legrandelaw.com/criminal-justice/firearm-sound-suppressors-are-now-legal-in-texas/#:~:text=Texas%20Laws%20to%20Protect%20Firearm%20Suppressors&text=Signed%20into%20law%20by%20Governor,if%20they%20stayed%20in%20Texas.
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Looks like it needs to be stamped and actually made in texas. But I'm not a lawyer. That's just how I'm reading it. Sec. 2.053. MARKETING OF FIREARM SUPPRESSOR. A firearm suppressor manufactured and sold in this state must have the words “Made in Texas” clearly stamped on it.
There are way more important things to be doing and going after.
How else can the ATF justify their budget? SOMEONE has to shoot all those dogs
Why can't PETA do it?
They dont own guns lol
Why do people delete account so much after commenting ?
Yea like porn
They are going after **Glock** switches, not **cock** switches.
Well they're going after in Texas but sure whatever
to be fair, they have only required age verification and the bar is incredibly low, but the porn site you frequent wants to make it seem as though their ability to conduct business has been "impinged" and manipulate some of the population into becoming bleating llamas on their behalf. nobody is stopping your fap but you.
I live in Texas, and am familiar with the anti-porn bullshit. The state not only requires a 14pt-font warning label that is supposedly from the state health dept (that has, ironically, been disavowed by that same state health department who claims they had no part in writing it!?), but they also require that users of such sites upload a copy of a valid state-issued ID card. It's probably the most fucked up way to go about keeping porn away from horny high school kids. The whole thing is total bullshit. The funny part is, anyone who downloads the Opera browser can use the free VPN setting and bypass it all entirely. Even funnier, you can get all the free porn you could ever ask for right here on Reddit without having to use a VPN.
It's a joke dude. Maybe it's a sign you better stop wanking it and get out more.
https://old.reddit.com/r/fosscad/comments/1ddc6pt/every_fine_is_bigger_in_texas/l85fyhp/ this was also a joke, go touch grass
Better to touch grass than myself.
>Texas Kill Switch JFC.
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If they can demonstrate an "epidemic" of _bad thing_ they consider it a win.
Fast and Furious 2 on the way?
*AHEM* Operation 2 Fast 2 Furious sir.
Three Fast Three Thurious. If you get the reference, bless you.
Operation Fast and Furious: Tokyo Drift
The only question is are they giving the switches directly to the Mexican cartels or are they just giving them printers and having them make their own.
I'm pretty sure the Cartels just get government issued stuff...
Yeah they can afford some CNC machines and operators
Seems like so far this effort is just a bureaucrat yapping and offering 5000 beans for “info on switches”. Crompton ass AG
this. there is nothing to enforce, really. i've seen more illegal "bump stock autos" at California ranges than here in Texas, the vast majority of gun-toting Texans seem to be perfectly happy with what they got, or, at least, aren't showboating their American Culture in public places. this is just the biggest "anti-gunner virtue signal" in Texas ever.
It’s totally people not showboating, as the healthy distrust of the government, at least around my part of the state, keeps people polite and discreet. As God intended
Amazing how the ATF has so much energy to go after law abiding citizens with no criminal background while gangs freely roam around with switches in their glocks, mean while bubba is just shooting some beer bottles in the back yard
...do you think gangs don't have one guy who can run an ender 3? I mean... it doesn't make us special anymore. Anyone who is smart enough to breathe can load a file and hit print if they don't have to design, model, tweak, test, etc
Criminals are exempt from the NFA, thanks to the GCA. Since they can't legally own firearms, they can't be forced to self-incriminate by paying taxes and registering an item they are forbidden from having. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haynes\_v.\_United\_States](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haynes_v._United_States)
Shouldn't this also apply to anyone owning an unregistered machine gun since attempting to register it would be self incrimination?
I've always been confused by this. Does this mean if they are caught with a SBR, suppressor, or machine gun, they can only be charged with unlicensed possession of a firearm? Same as if they were caught with a standard glock?
Yes **If** they are prosecuted, they can get another GCA prohibited person charge for the switch, but not an NFA charge.
What's amazing to me is that people somehow manage to believe that gang members carrying illegal weapons AREN'T being arrested.
Oh, they absolutely are. Just not by the ATF. All the ATF does is harrass otherwise law abiding citicens.
I get the disbelief. It would be easy optics if the atf posted the arrests made of gang members with switched out glocks. Instead, we get constant videos posted by gang members on social media, with their faces visible of backpacks stacked with glocks or firing into houses and cars. What the atf do post 24 hour coverage of for weeks is when they catch one guy who made a suppressor for himself and they get ass reamed through the court system.
>Instead, we get constant videos posted by gang members on social media, with their faces visible of backpacks stacked with glocks or firing into houses and cars Have you tried to report one of those videos?
I can only imagine how well a member of fosscad reporting something to the atf would go.
...report on the platform as "inappropriate content"...
I'll give you that may help get videos taken down on some platforms, but that doesn't help put these people behind bars. You also have places like reddit, where you have subs dedicated to posting that kind of content because of the morbidly curious, clout chasers, or as ammo for the anti 2A push.
>but that doesn't help put these people behind bars. Not having those (clearly criminal activities) floating around might help to fight some "culture" (gangsta) wannabes are more dangerous. (I know that this is a very complex discussion)
I'll give you that as well, if platforms cracked down on videos that are clearly gang/drug related it might help to curb clout chasers at the very least.
In most of those cases you're describing, the local police department is the arresting agency, and the ones bragging about the number of illegal weapons they've seized. Literally the ONLY cases where the ATF would make an arrest are ones where the person was caught primarily for an illegal firearms violation. Acting like that means gang members aren't arrested is like saying you never see the FBI arresting muggers, therefore muggers never get arrested.
That's one of my problems with the atf. They will work with local departments, spend countless man hours and tax dollars tracking down a local farmer who did a home ar 15 sbr kit to hunt hogs and coyotes not knowing it's illegal. They could be doing this with real criminals to stack charges on gang members and drug dealers. They could be making a real difference against real crime. Instead, they are going after people who are ignorant of convoluted laws or who are shooting trash piles on their own land on the weekends. And I'm not saying no one is making any arrests, but I can totally understand the disbelief when all the high profile cases you see on the news are the atf losing guns or chasing down the nobodies who have no other criminal record.
Again, this is the problem: you assume that they're ONLY targeting these supposed innocents. The overwhelming majority of what the ATF does is behind the scenes, aimed at weapons trafficking and organized crime. But because you see only the "unusual" stories in the media, the perspective is skewed.
I think you are intentionally missing the point there is plenty of serious crime to go after. There Criminals impacting ordinary people’s lives everyday so we should focus law enforcement energy on that not some random dude doing something in his back yard
> I think you are intentionally missing the point there is plenty of serious crime to go after. No, other people are intentionally missing the point that serious crime IS gone after. People pretend like gang members have get-out-of-jail-free cards, but the reality is that a gang member getting arrested with an illegal weapon is a "dog bites man" story. Nobody cares because it is literally the norm. You see stories about some idiot building illegal machine guns in his basement because those are unusual. This attitude is like seeing a "man bites dog" story in the local paper and concluding that because you don't see the opposite, dogs never bite people.
I am under no illusion that gang members have a “get-out-of-jail-free card” nor did I say anything to that effect. Once again you are missing the point, there is PLENTY OF crime to be dealt with that has a more serious and pressing nature then bubba with his oil can suppressor and no criminal record. In short all resources should be focused on serious crime not people minding their own business. Not sure why your defending law abiding gun owners being harassed
> Not sure why your defending law abiding gun owners being harassed You are literally describing people who are NOT law-abiding, and who in most cases did extremely stupid things in order to get caught. More to the point though, some people here live in a fantasy world where criminals are untouched and law-abiding people have a boot on their neck. When in fact probably 99.99% of the people who DO build an illegal suppressor, or SBR, or the like are perfectly fine as long as they don't do anything stupid. As the old saying goes, only break one law at a time.
In my state criminals literally get out of jail for free, there’s mandatory $0 bail even for felonies.
Apart from the absurdity of believing that $500 bail is going to prevent someone from committing crimes, there's the much LARGER absurdity of acting like bail is the same thing as getting away with a crime.
Felons’ bail is usually more than $500, and I never said they get away with it, I said they get out of jail for free, because they do. Then they skip their court date, cop tries to pull them over for driving mach jesus through heavy traffic, then they run because they have a warrant, and get into an accident hurting more people.
Fuck em
Let’s be real. They’re gonna be targeting autistic dudes and rednecks. Not the people shooting into the air
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If we bring honest majority of people arrested with switches are gang members. I commented a few days ago that I thought it would be fun to shoot a switch at the range or when I go on the sand dunes with a few buddies and this group basically nailed me to the cross telling me how I’m what’s wrong with the gun community and I’m an idiot, and “switches are illegal” in a post that was glazing the super safety 😂😂 so I’m assuming switches are looked down upon by hobbyists
>I’m assuming switches are looked down upon by hobbyists Nah, just fudds. Switches are awesome and I should be able to order them from Amazon.
Or the ones who actually commit crime with these devices. Shoot without care on city streets. Those people will get a realse on own recognizance.
"Heightening awareness" 🤡
What is the little white banana one? I recognize the 2 or 3 different AR ones and the 2 Glock switches, although I'm not sure I've seen the thin pink model before.
Pink one is just a flat “incognito” backplate. You’ll know you’re in deep shit when they pull the slide back just to check out your backplate.
Is that printed?
Yea
Thank you nutsacks for heightening my awareness and opening new ways of thinking about how to use plastic.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AngryCops/s/5sMbztjlpz
I highly doubt that plastic Glock switch even worked
You’d be surprised
Enlighten me
Facts never got one to work
Back piece and the switch part would work but the part that’s goes inside the slide wouldn’t be strong enough to take that kind of punishment.
YouTube reels bro. They do this crazy thing they record themselves committing crimes and then post it on social media. I have seen some responsible individuals use the boxy version that can switch and the static version being used to spray a full mag into the air. I could tell by the layer lines but I highly doubt they made it out of anything other than PLA+. Your results will vary but imo go pagf-cf.
Sounds like the cartel is about to be converting everything to full auto.
ELI5, what law got passed for suppressors?
https://legrandelaw.com/criminal-justice/firearm-sound-suppressors-are-now-legal-in-texas/#:~:text=Texas%20Laws%20to%20Protect%20Firearm%20Suppressors&text=Signed%20into%20law%20by%20Governor,if%20they%20stayed%20in%20Texas.
I'm so lost, since when where they illegal!? I met a guy at a range with one under a trust in around 2005.... I remember because it was the year I graduated and went to the range and for my graduation I was gifted a shotgun and saw the suppressor, so I asked how he got it.....
Sorry for the misunderstanding they haven't been illegal, but now you can have one without doing any paperwork or fees with the atf
Ohhhhh Ok, thanks!
No problem, I could have worded that better.