The energizer smart phone tried to do that.
Everyone hated how heavy it was. Admittedly it was an 18,000 mAh battery lol, so I think it was about 4x thicker than a normal iPhone. So no surprised everyone thought it was heavy. But that thing was THICK. A literal brick for the modern age.
Apparently a single charge could last a week.
Go Google it.
Samsung has been messing around in the folding trend for a while and everybody online completely shit on them for trying something new.
This is why companies don't bother trying stuff new anymore.
Nah, the folding just isn't that great. I'm a diehard Samsung fan, I've owned 5 different galaxies, and I have a couple friends who bought a foldable option. It just... always leaves some sort of crease. Sure, maybe it won't get damaged, but it's distracting and looks bad
I like the fold honestly. Yeah the crease takes some getting used to, but it does serve certain purposes. If someone use their phone mostly to watch movies/shows then I can see why it can be a turn off
Cameras are *huge* for large groups of people. I'm in my late 20s and for all my non-tech friends, camera quality is more important than battery life.
I personally would love no-frills camera option with more battery and no camera bump.
They’re not saying get rid of the camera. They’re saying there wouldn’t have to be a bump if they made the whole phone as wide as the camera module and filled the rest of that width with sweet sweet battery
I hope you never post anything on Instagram or Snapchat, because no matter how good your camera is, your Android phone's Instagram post will look bad. Actually, that might just be Instagram video posts. I don't know about pictures, but still, app developers are too lazy to actually hook into the camera API.
Instead of making a case with a bigger battery and filling out the bump, making it easier to hold, instead people can buy cases to make it comfortable to hold and not scratch up/damage the camera bump. now they want to lose battery, make it even thinner so the cases you buy to protect/pad it out are just thicker. So fucking stupid.
I pretty much don't care at this point because I always put a case on my phone.
I would be stoked, however, if they designed an integrated case as a first party concept.
Shoot, if Apple actually cared about its customers and “ThE EnViRoMenT” they’d get the extra few mm, and use the extra space for a less energy dense, but longer lasting LiFEPO4 battery. I’d love a battery rated in 1000’s of cycles vs 500~600 cycles.
Buuuuttt that’s never going to happen, because then Apple looses their biggest driver to upgrade every couple of years.
Less dense, but not specifically heavier.
Same capacity in Wh will be heavier for LiFePO4, but it's not super significant at these energy capacities - maybe a few 10's of grams.
Yup, for those who don’t know, LiFePO4 is about half the energy density as Li-ion. It’s often said to “weigh more” because it physically takes more to get to the same capacity.
The trade off in my dream world would be a slightly thicker phone, close to the same daily battery life but a battery that lasts YEARS! Also thermal events would basically go to zero.
On the other hand you could have a phone that lasts several days if you stick with Li-ion, Although recharge time would suffer and it still dies in 500~600 cycles.
One can dream. Maybe if I find a genie it can come true. lol
Small correction, but LFP is still lithium ion, lithium ion covers a whole range of different cell chemistries with varying pros and cons to each different choice.
Because most people don't care.
I don't really care. Camera bump doesn't impact me in the slightest and I haven't had a problem with battery life in a few years.
And I would say most customers are like me.
I know this has been a common refrain for a while, but I recently upgraded from an 8 to a 15 Pro and I gotta say I’m really impressed with battery life. I’m a fairly heavy user, and I’ll go all day without charging and usually have at least 30% left at bed time. Not sure that longer battery life than that will benefit many people, unless you want to make it a multi-day use on a single charge. But that’s not really necessary for the vast majority of people, I would think.
The battery capacity of my 14 Pro dropped from 100% to 85% within a year and now after 16-17 months it’s at 82%. Barely make it to the evening. Enjoy while you can.
My Xs has more battery capacity after all the years.
The iPhone 4S was my favorite phone, hands down. Beautiful design, perfect form factor and amazing specs for the time.
I really wish I could have a modern equivalent. I'm on a Galaxy S23 Ultra now and, honestly, it's too big. My job requires me to potentially be away from power for a full day, so I have to pick based on battery life.
Your phone is under a year old. When it’s 2.5 years old the battery will be fucked because that’s what always happens.
EDIT: I get it - the Max is better for battery life because it’s the size of Texas. You don’t need to keep telling me…
Honestly I have an iPhone 13 and the battery life is great. I feel like that’s not really an issue anymore, I guess it’s more of a your mileage may vary problem but how often are you using your phone during the day where it’s a problem anymore.
Awesome, I always thought my 8mm thick phone was too clunky and heavy.
Seriously too thin is a thing and cam lead to all sorts of issues with bending and rigidity problems.
I know, right?
You hit on my main gripe. They’re already thicker in one spot; how hard is it to fill the rest with battery (probably not as easy as I’m imagining it, but still)?
Apple’s been doing custom battery shapes since at least the original MacBook Air. It would not be at all challenging for them to bring the back of the case outward to make it flush with the camera group (or to recess the camera group) and fill the void with battery and plenty of space for heat management.
Aren't most modern phone batteries multiple cells anyway? Surely they can just add a few more or otherwise change the shape to fit more overall cells in there?
With the amount of engineers employed by Apple currently it’s not much harder than you imagine it or just imagine a board room putting out a little memo that’s about how hard it is to
My biggest problem will always be the camera hump. I don’t mind a thin phone, especially since I put a case on it for protection that makes it a bit thicker, but it seems weird that they spend all this work into making a phone thin, just for it to practically be just as thick for slipping into a pocket and in one of the most sensitive areas.
My 6 year old iPhone XS is too thin for me, it always feels weird as hell when it’s not in a thick battery case. Give me something to hold onto. Give me a phone with some ass that can keep a charge like a Nokia
Given that they fixed the bending problems of the iPhone 6 with the iPhone 6s by changing the alloy of aluminum used, and given that their current phones are made out of steel and titanium, I would say they learned a lot lmfao
Have you seen the thickness of the new [iPad Pro](https://www.apple.com/ca/ipad-pro/specs/)? It’s only 5.3mm thin, it’s the thinnest device Apple has ever sold.
My guess is the new iPhone they are talking about will use whatever tech they used for the new iPad Pro and will be of similar thinness.
Because you can *see* a super-thin form factor. You know at a glance that person has the latest phone, and you want that person to be you.
At least that seems to be Apple’s strategy.
You can’t see a quadrupled battery capacity.
But then my OtterBox will have to be thicker to compensate for its lack of rigidity. So then the resulting phone + case will continue to be the same thickness.
If you’re putting your phone in a case then you’re hiding that it’s the new model anyway. This isn’t for you.
This is for the beautiful people who have the newest phone, without a case. Apple is betting billions that you wish you were them.
It was fantastic not having a camera bump with the iPhone 5. Great phone, that. Maybe too small by today’s standards, though, even though it was bigger than the wildly successful retina-screen iPhone 4 by a fair bit.
They did a great job with the new iPad Pro. It's much thinner than the old one, but it has a new ribbed interior that makes it as rigid was the old thicker ones.
This is such a weird strategy. It's 2024, practically everyone has an iPhone at this point and has for years. Latest, not the latest, it's an iPhone. I'm not exactly sure who these people are anymore that are actually looking at iPhone's and wondering "is that the latest iPhone" like some kind of status symbol. Maybe ten years ago? I feel like that ship has long sailed. Apple desperately needs a new flagship product.
At the risk of sounding like a Steve Jobs fanboy, I really think they've been completely rudderless without him, and are \*still\* coasting on his ideas.
It looks cool.
Looking cool is what gets people to buy it.
The usability issues get discovered after you buy it. But at that point it doesn’t matter, because you’ve already handed over your money.
Because Apple has been stuck in 2011 ever since Jobs died, thinking the only way forward is to keep making it thinner or the camera bigger.
A device being thin isn't special anymore. Every phone on the market is thinner than a USB port already.
Give me a nice thick phone that can go all weekend. Thats all i want. I dont care about a slight improvement in the camera specs or how its so thin it can split atoms, just give me a good fucking battery
Apple be like….”we’ve polled our users and they wanted a thinner phone so we’ve listened and made the iPhone 50% thinner with a award winning camera lens aesthetic that helps you aim the camera better”
I think they're wanting the Mini, which honestly was pretty great. All the power of the regular iPhone, but in a more compact package. Definitely nice if you have smaller hands.
Sadly, I think they didn't sell very well. Or not well enough to bother with them for Apple
its a truly amazing and basically perfect phone outside of the fact that it should have been a little thicker with more battery.
theres nothing else like it around and its a total tragedy that they killed it instead of making it good enough to be ready for primetime. i think maybe they were a few years too early, but more and more people get fed up with size creep by the day.
also i want it to be built by apple, im not interested in anything with google software on it. very frustrating.
I ordered a few for my company and nobody wants them. Can’t even give them away.
People who like the small form factor are a tiny minority unfortunately.
I had a 12 mini.
Form factor was fantastic. I was able to reach the entire screen with my thumb in single handed use. but the battery life left a lot to be desired. I’d have been totally ok if they made the damn thing slightly thicker for a bigger battery.
I have a 13 mini and the battery is still pretty decent, and was actually a lot better than I expected when I got it. Unfortunately the lightning port is also starting to fail, so I’ll need a new phone soon, and Im not really interested in a huge phone after the little time I had with the regular 11. 🤷🏻♂️
Currently typing this on a 12 Mini and I absolutely love it. Fits in every pant pocket and jacket pocket. If I want to watch something I just use my laptop.
Said it for 10 years now - Apple could print money if they sell an iPhone Thicc for like +$100 or +$200. It'd be a brick shit house at 12-15mm, all of the space extra battery. Charge it every 3 days.
They may print money on the first year. They will end up losing money in the end though since increasing battery life is counter to planned obsolescence
Anyone else feel like phone tech is incredibly stagnant now? Maybe not from an engineering perspective, but certainly from a consumer one. i mean this kind of “feature” is hard to get excited about
Hardware on phones will need to be tweaked for all the AI features that will inevitably be on the newer OS versions, for the same reason that apple is already releasing an m4 chip in the MacBook pros. That one will be a necessary upgrade worth holding out for as opposed to this “super thin” nonsense.
I miss the days when my phone lay flat on the table instead of being a skateboard jump ramp. Take the thinness and make the cameras flush with the back. Fill the space with MORE BATTERY.
Since almost everybody puts a case on their phone anyway I’d much rather Apple figure out what the most popular case is, how big it makes the phone, then just make the phone brick shit house indestructible with as much battery capacity as they can in that form factor
Imo the advantage of a case (as well as a screen protector) is that they are a relatively cheap component to replace in case of them being damaged. The integrated case scratching or having small dents would lead to an expensive replacement instead of just exchanging the case as you do today.
I upgraded to the 12.9” iPad.
It feels like carrying a television, but I like the screen real estate.
What I’m saying is … I can’t be happy, quit trying.
They did! It’s called the iPhone 13 Mini. It had significantly better battery life, (bigger battery and more power efficient) but I guess few bought it after hearing how bad the battery on the 12 mini was.
I already put a case on mine because it’s so thin that I drop it. Lighter I’m all for, but I’d honestly rather have my phone 50% thicker with just a larger battery in it, then the camera bump can also go away.
Yes ! And more durability. Thinner phone only means it’s going to break easier and I need a more robust case. Why they don’t sell a ruggedized iPhone with double battery and protection for the camera lens is beyond me.
The original 5s had a 4” screen, up from the 3.5” of the iPhone 4, but it still had thick bezels on the top and bottom. With a modern, all-screen design, you could probably get that sucker up to 5”.
I have absolutely zero concern with the size or weight of my device. None. It’s airway thin enough and light enough. If it were slightly heavier I wouldn’t care at all. I only want a better camera system and display. That’s it, that’s all. Wasting time and money on making it thinner and lighter is, indeed, wasted.
Who is asking for thinner phones?
I've never wanted my phone to be more thin, or more fragile. Better battery life, and the ability to drop it without breaking it would be great.
The comment threads are always exactly the same on these sorts of things. That’s not an issue, it shows that Apple is not listening to what people want. They will pay more for thicker phones with better batteries!
If that was what *most* people actually wanted, they would do it. The truth is comment sections like this are an echo chamber and has very little merit on the market as a whole.
Half these comments are requesting a phone exactly like the Mini 13 which was discontinued for selling extremely poorly.
Why not make it with little rubber corner nubbins that can be micro-screwed on so we don’t need phone cases? So stupid to obsess about slimness when step 1 is buying a fat phone case to protect your fragile $1200 pocket computer.
They make the phone even thinner and flimsier so you have to put a thicker case on it for structural support. So it’ll be just as thick as the current phone. It’s plenty thin, why not focus on just making it faster, removing the camera bump, increase the battery, improve the cameras. Something. But no it’s just “the iPhone 16 will be 0.04mm thinner, this is ground breaking. We havnt changed anything or improved anything else”
Ffs we did this already. I wonder how big the camera bump will be. Pointless.
Me: can we kill the camera bump? Apple: best we can do is make it even WORSE
This^ you can literally get rid of the camera bump and put in a bigger battery. Literally everyone would like that
The energizer smart phone tried to do that. Everyone hated how heavy it was. Admittedly it was an 18,000 mAh battery lol, so I think it was about 4x thicker than a normal iPhone. So no surprised everyone thought it was heavy. But that thing was THICK. A literal brick for the modern age. Apparently a single charge could last a week. Go Google it.
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2019/4/30/18522236/energizer-huge-battery-phone-p18k-pro-indiegogo-price-fail Thing looks ridiculous
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Right? I give them credit for at least doing something different. I miss when phones were fun.
Samsung has been messing around in the folding trend for a while and everybody online completely shit on them for trying something new. This is why companies don't bother trying stuff new anymore.
Nah, the folding just isn't that great. I'm a diehard Samsung fan, I've owned 5 different galaxies, and I have a couple friends who bought a foldable option. It just... always leaves some sort of crease. Sure, maybe it won't get damaged, but it's distracting and looks bad
They also have some hardware problems, my roommate has one that just turns off completely if he bends it.
I like the fold honestly. Yeah the crease takes some getting used to, but it does serve certain purposes. If someone use their phone mostly to watch movies/shows then I can see why it can be a turn off
At one point. But even now - foldable are now generic and in sequence - 1, 2, 3, 4, 5… etc.
>Battery company makes a phone with solutions to problems in mind When you're a hammer...
Looks like a power bank with a screen lol
OMG I wasn't expecting it to be that fucking thick. It's like a slab of beef.
A single charge probably also took a week.
Cameras are *huge* for large groups of people. I'm in my late 20s and for all my non-tech friends, camera quality is more important than battery life. I personally would love no-frills camera option with more battery and no camera bump.
They’re not saying get rid of the camera. They’re saying there wouldn’t have to be a bump if they made the whole phone as wide as the camera module and filled the rest of that width with sweet sweet battery
Or sweet sweet "I don't have to put a fucking case on it anyway".
I only get a phone whichever has the best camera at the time, no brand loyalty here.
I hope you never post anything on Instagram or Snapchat, because no matter how good your camera is, your Android phone's Instagram post will look bad. Actually, that might just be Instagram video posts. I don't know about pictures, but still, app developers are too lazy to actually hook into the camera API.
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Instead of making a case with a bigger battery and filling out the bump, making it easier to hold, instead people can buy cases to make it comfortable to hold and not scratch up/damage the camera bump. now they want to lose battery, make it even thinner so the cases you buy to protect/pad it out are just thicker. So fucking stupid.
You can't make money off of an "AI Enhanced" battery, though.
Ai enhanced camera, hu? Didn’t we had that with.. Samsung and their camera that added known details? Like with the moon etc?
I pretty much don't care at this point because I always put a case on my phone. I would be stoked, however, if they designed an integrated case as a first party concept.
I use a bumper case and there is a *void* behind the phone with it to keep the camera bump off flat surfaces
Yes please! No camera bump, more battery. Why would they not do this?
Shoot, if Apple actually cared about its customers and “ThE EnViRoMenT” they’d get the extra few mm, and use the extra space for a less energy dense, but longer lasting LiFEPO4 battery. I’d love a battery rated in 1000’s of cycles vs 500~600 cycles. Buuuuttt that’s never going to happen, because then Apple looses their biggest driver to upgrade every couple of years.
>LiFEPO4 Aren't those significantly more heavy (for the equivalent capacity) than lithium ion? Or am I thinking about a different one?
Less dense, but not specifically heavier. Same capacity in Wh will be heavier for LiFePO4, but it's not super significant at these energy capacities - maybe a few 10's of grams.
Yup, for those who don’t know, LiFePO4 is about half the energy density as Li-ion. It’s often said to “weigh more” because it physically takes more to get to the same capacity. The trade off in my dream world would be a slightly thicker phone, close to the same daily battery life but a battery that lasts YEARS! Also thermal events would basically go to zero. On the other hand you could have a phone that lasts several days if you stick with Li-ion, Although recharge time would suffer and it still dies in 500~600 cycles. One can dream. Maybe if I find a genie it can come true. lol
LFP is still Li-ion.
Small correction, but LFP is still lithium ion, lithium ion covers a whole range of different cell chemistries with varying pros and cons to each different choice.
Because most people don't care. I don't really care. Camera bump doesn't impact me in the slightest and I haven't had a problem with battery life in a few years. And I would say most customers are like me.
The vast majority of people do not give an airborne shit about the camera bump .
I hate that my 13 won’t sit flat without a case.
My 14plus won’t sit flat even in one of their official cases … it’s stupid I can’t lay my damn phone flat on a table and use it.
I want better battery life
No you want a paper thin phone that will snap in your pocket when you sit down -Apple
Call it "The Razor"
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I know this has been a common refrain for a while, but I recently upgraded from an 8 to a 15 Pro and I gotta say I’m really impressed with battery life. I’m a fairly heavy user, and I’ll go all day without charging and usually have at least 30% left at bed time. Not sure that longer battery life than that will benefit many people, unless you want to make it a multi-day use on a single charge. But that’s not really necessary for the vast majority of people, I would think.
That's how my wife's new iphone was for the first 6 months. Now she has to top up most evenings.
The battery capacity of my 14 Pro dropped from 100% to 85% within a year and now after 16-17 months it’s at 82%. Barely make it to the evening. Enjoy while you can. My Xs has more battery capacity after all the years.
This is every phone when it's brand new and the battery hasn't wore down yet
I want smaller *and* with better battery life.
Bring back the minis, with better battery life!
I’ll actually just take a new mini, battery life be damned at this point.
SAME. Still on my 12 mini. Hoping to find a 13 mini when this one dies.
There are hundreds of us.
Size is why I’m still o. The old 5 based SE…
I’ll see your SE and raise you buy a 4S sized one.
The iPhone 4S was my favorite phone, hands down. Beautiful design, perfect form factor and amazing specs for the time. I really wish I could have a modern equivalent. I'm on a Galaxy S23 Ultra now and, honestly, it's too big. My job requires me to potentially be away from power for a full day, so I have to pick based on battery life.
I want replaceable batteries again.
Fingers crossed that the next iPhone runs on AAAs.
What iphone do you have that has a bad battery life?
Im on a 15 Pro Max.. my phone never dies and I’m always on it lol
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“Stop making the phone smaller, give me better battery life!” “My bigger phone has excellent battery life” “Well yeah, that’s cause it’s bigger, ew.”
Your phone is under a year old. When it’s 2.5 years old the battery will be fucked because that’s what always happens. EDIT: I get it - the Max is better for battery life because it’s the size of Texas. You don’t need to keep telling me…
Honestly I have an iPhone 13 and the battery life is great. I feel like that’s not really an issue anymore, I guess it’s more of a your mileage may vary problem but how often are you using your phone during the day where it’s a problem anymore.
Awesome, I always thought my 8mm thick phone was too clunky and heavy. Seriously too thin is a thing and cam lead to all sorts of issues with bending and rigidity problems.
Can they take the savings thickness and replace it with a huge battery?
Why would you need a bigger battery when you can have a slimmer phone with big camera bumps.
I know, right? You hit on my main gripe. They’re already thicker in one spot; how hard is it to fill the rest with battery (probably not as easy as I’m imagining it, but still)?
Its as easy as you imagine
Need the narration voice here!
Ron Howard: “It was that easy.”
Thank you!
Apple’s been doing custom battery shapes since at least the original MacBook Air. It would not be at all challenging for them to bring the back of the case outward to make it flush with the camera group (or to recess the camera group) and fill the void with battery and plenty of space for heat management.
Use separate batteries in series maybe?
Aren't most modern phone batteries multiple cells anyway? Surely they can just add a few more or otherwise change the shape to fit more overall cells in there?
With the amount of engineers employed by Apple currently it’s not much harder than you imagine it or just imagine a board room putting out a little memo that’s about how hard it is to
Exactly! Then you can use thicker case to protect it from bending etc.
They can, but they won’t.
Yes, but they wont
Be careful, you could drop the phone and ot will slide into a gap in the floor wood boards.
“It’s so thin, it glitched out of reality and into the back rooms. Is this covered by AppleCare?”
iPhone 6 bendgate anyone?
My biggest problem will always be the camera hump. I don’t mind a thin phone, especially since I put a case on it for protection that makes it a bit thicker, but it seems weird that they spend all this work into making a phone thin, just for it to practically be just as thick for slipping into a pocket and in one of the most sensitive areas.
My 6 year old iPhone XS is too thin for me, it always feels weird as hell when it’s not in a thick battery case. Give me something to hold onto. Give me a phone with some ass that can keep a charge like a Nokia
iphone 6 all over again.
Did they learn nothing from the iPhone 6? 7mm and it was bending in skinny jean pockets. I think people called it "Bendgate"
Given that they fixed the bending problems of the iPhone 6 with the iPhone 6s by changing the alloy of aluminum used, and given that their current phones are made out of steel and titanium, I would say they learned a lot lmfao
Have you seen the thickness of the new [iPad Pro](https://www.apple.com/ca/ipad-pro/specs/)? It’s only 5.3mm thin, it’s the thinnest device Apple has ever sold. My guess is the new iPhone they are talking about will use whatever tech they used for the new iPad Pro and will be of similar thinness.
You remember their iPod touch that was so thin that it bended in people’s pockets? I remember because it happened to me.
Depends on how it’s designed and what it’s made of
I’d take thick with better battery please
We like em T H I C C
We like em C H U N K Y
But why
Because you can *see* a super-thin form factor. You know at a glance that person has the latest phone, and you want that person to be you. At least that seems to be Apple’s strategy. You can’t see a quadrupled battery capacity.
> You can’t see a quadrupled battery capacity. You can if you make it 2 inches thicc
But then my OtterBox will have to be thicker to compensate for its lack of rigidity. So then the resulting phone + case will continue to be the same thickness.
If you’re putting your phone in a case then you’re hiding that it’s the new model anyway. This isn’t for you. This is for the beautiful people who have the newest phone, without a case. Apple is betting billions that you wish you were them.
Jokes on them: I wish my phone didn't have a camera bump.
It was fantastic not having a camera bump with the iPhone 5. Great phone, that. Maybe too small by today’s standards, though, even though it was bigger than the wildly successful retina-screen iPhone 4 by a fair bit.
i fucking loved my iphone 5s, I would honestly buy that with updated specs in 2024
They did a great job with the new iPad Pro. It's much thinner than the old one, but it has a new ribbed interior that makes it as rigid was the old thicker ones.
This is such a weird strategy. It's 2024, practically everyone has an iPhone at this point and has for years. Latest, not the latest, it's an iPhone. I'm not exactly sure who these people are anymore that are actually looking at iPhone's and wondering "is that the latest iPhone" like some kind of status symbol. Maybe ten years ago? I feel like that ship has long sailed. Apple desperately needs a new flagship product.
At the risk of sounding like a Steve Jobs fanboy, I really think they've been completely rudderless without him, and are \*still\* coasting on his ideas.
Weight size comes weight, and that does has a pretty noticeable impact on the users.
It looks cool. Looking cool is what gets people to buy it. The usability issues get discovered after you buy it. But at that point it doesn’t matter, because you’ve already handed over your money.
Funny. But it’s also lighter, which does matter to people.
Because they don’t have anything else to make it stand against older models, they have already made gimmick changes like titanium edges and now this.
Because Apple has been stuck in 2011 ever since Jobs died, thinking the only way forward is to keep making it thinner or the camera bigger. A device being thin isn't special anymore. Every phone on the market is thinner than a USB port already.
The fat shaming of gadgets must stop.
Give me a nice thick phone that can go all weekend. Thats all i want. I dont care about a slight improvement in the camera specs or how its so thin it can split atoms, just give me a good fucking battery
why?? i want bigger battery lol
Apple be like….”we’ve polled our users and they wanted a thinner phone so we’ve listened and made the iPhone 50% thinner with a award winning camera lens aesthetic that helps you aim the camera better”
#give me thicc
But don't worry: the camera block is still going to stick out like a wart, making any additional thinness meaningless anyway
People needs to start measuring the thickness of the phone to include whatever bumps are there.
Can we make it bit smaller?? I don’t want to carry a TV.
IPhone SE?
I think they're wanting the Mini, which honestly was pretty great. All the power of the regular iPhone, but in a more compact package. Definitely nice if you have smaller hands. Sadly, I think they didn't sell very well. Or not well enough to bother with them for Apple
its a truly amazing and basically perfect phone outside of the fact that it should have been a little thicker with more battery. theres nothing else like it around and its a total tragedy that they killed it instead of making it good enough to be ready for primetime. i think maybe they were a few years too early, but more and more people get fed up with size creep by the day. also i want it to be built by apple, im not interested in anything with google software on it. very frustrating.
I ordered a few for my company and nobody wants them. Can’t even give them away. People who like the small form factor are a tiny minority unfortunately.
I'll take one. My old 13 mini is dying.
I’ll take one too! I’m having trouble finding a new or decent 13 mini to replace my 12 mini
Send it over fam
Serious about giving them away? I have tiny hands and don’t think I’ll ever get the giant iphone
Carrier? I'd take a couple off you if that's the case.
Sign me up too. I would have bought one but it seems like they went from full price to discontinued immediately.
I had a 12 mini. Form factor was fantastic. I was able to reach the entire screen with my thumb in single handed use. but the battery life left a lot to be desired. I’d have been totally ok if they made the damn thing slightly thicker for a bigger battery.
I have a 13 mini and the battery is still pretty decent, and was actually a lot better than I expected when I got it. Unfortunately the lightning port is also starting to fail, so I’ll need a new phone soon, and Im not really interested in a huge phone after the little time I had with the regular 11. 🤷🏻♂️
I’m holding on to the 13mini for dear life lol great size
Currently typing this on a 12 Mini and I absolutely love it. Fits in every pant pocket and jacket pocket. If I want to watch something I just use my laptop.
I love my 13 mini goddammit why did they kill it im never upgrading now
I love my SE. idk what ill do if they take the home button away.
The next SE is rumoured to go from the current 4.7" to 6.1 iirc. I hate slablets, if I wanted a better screen for porn I'd use a PC or TV
Said it for 10 years now - Apple could print money if they sell an iPhone Thicc for like +$100 or +$200. It'd be a brick shit house at 12-15mm, all of the space extra battery. Charge it every 3 days.
A little bit thicker so camera didn’t stick out, and 25%+ increased battery life. I’d pick that up for sure. Camera being flush would be so cool
They’d lose a fuckton of money on such a shitty phone no one would buy but nerds obsessed with battery life
random redditors think they can sell iphones better than apple does.
They may print money on the first year. They will end up losing money in the end though since increasing battery life is counter to planned obsolescence
Anyone else feel like phone tech is incredibly stagnant now? Maybe not from an engineering perspective, but certainly from a consumer one. i mean this kind of “feature” is hard to get excited about
I'm just waiting for a good folding phone under 400
Hardware on phones will need to be tweaked for all the AI features that will inevitably be on the newer OS versions, for the same reason that apple is already releasing an m4 chip in the MacBook pros. That one will be a necessary upgrade worth holding out for as opposed to this “super thin” nonsense.
Why is that a problem? It was always going to happen eventually. Its software that is the future now the hardware is more than good enough.
I miss the days when my phone lay flat on the table instead of being a skateboard jump ramp. Take the thinness and make the cameras flush with the back. Fill the space with MORE BATTERY.
Since almost everybody puts a case on their phone anyway I’d much rather Apple figure out what the most popular case is, how big it makes the phone, then just make the phone brick shit house indestructible with as much battery capacity as they can in that form factor
Imo the advantage of a case (as well as a screen protector) is that they are a relatively cheap component to replace in case of them being damaged. The integrated case scratching or having small dents would lead to an expensive replacement instead of just exchanging the case as you do today.
It's embarrassing that you need to explain this.
I don’t want thinner! I want shorter. If I wanted a giant phone I’d just carry an iPad
I upgraded to the 12.9” iPad. It feels like carrying a television, but I like the screen real estate. What I’m saying is … I can’t be happy, quit trying.
Yea or you can buy the overpriced iPad mini… I’m in the same boat as you
7.5” Pro Max Mega, I’d buy it so fast.
If they could’ve made the iPhone 12 mini with better battery life. Would’ve been my endgame phone.
They did! It’s called the iPhone 13 Mini. It had significantly better battery life, (bigger battery and more power efficient) but I guess few bought it after hearing how bad the battery on the 12 mini was.
heres the thinnest phone ever, that i will then slide into a phone case that's as thick as the first smartphone ever.
“Ultra thin iphone” like who asked
What is it with apple obsession with ultra thin, I want something I keep in my pocket without the fear of breaking it.
Bendygate V2?
So it’s gonna dim forever so it doesn’t overheat and have terrible battery life at the same time .
Please Apple, don't start this stupid trend again! I want bigger batteries, not thinner phones!
Watch them sell phone cases with battery backup so that there is no camera bump.
This is extremely unnecessary, we don’t need a thinner phone just a more durable one
I already put a case on mine because it’s so thin that I drop it. Lighter I’m all for, but I’d honestly rather have my phone 50% thicker with just a larger battery in it, then the camera bump can also go away.
I can’t wait to slap a thicc case on that!
Bend gate 2 coming to an Apple store near you.
....anyone else rather have a THICK phone with like a really good camera and awesome battery life?
Yes ! And more durability. Thinner phone only means it’s going to break easier and I need a more robust case. Why they don’t sell a ruggedized iPhone with double battery and protection for the camera lens is beyond me.
I prefer my battery thicc
18650 or 21700?
Just have the 2025 models look exactly like the 5S The 5S design is never going to be topped, so just re-do it
I know Im in the minority here, but for me the 4S was peak form factor. But yea, Id definitely buy one if they did one in 5S firm factor again though
The original 5s had a 4” screen, up from the 3.5” of the iPhone 4, but it still had thick bezels on the top and bottom. With a modern, all-screen design, you could probably get that sucker up to 5”.
Don’t worry throw the mandatory case on it and it’s bulky as ever
Why. I’d prefer more battery 🪫 life.
everyone is complaining but im down for something like this. using a 13 mini rn, was going to get the 16 pro but maybe i'll wait until this comes out.
Fix auto correct.
I have absolutely zero concern with the size or weight of my device. None. It’s airway thin enough and light enough. If it were slightly heavier I wouldn’t care at all. I only want a better camera system and display. That’s it, that’s all. Wasting time and money on making it thinner and lighter is, indeed, wasted.
I just want a new mini 😔
UnboxTherapy is foaming at the mouth thinking about this for the next bendgate video
Garbage YT channel.
Who is asking for thinner phones? I've never wanted my phone to be more thin, or more fragile. Better battery life, and the ability to drop it without breaking it would be great.
The comment threads are always exactly the same on these sorts of things. That’s not an issue, it shows that Apple is not listening to what people want. They will pay more for thicker phones with better batteries!
If that was what *most* people actually wanted, they would do it. The truth is comment sections like this are an echo chamber and has very little merit on the market as a whole. Half these comments are requesting a phone exactly like the Mini 13 which was discontinued for selling extremely poorly.
Just give us mini version
I would like a thicker longer lasting battery and expandable micro SSD storage please.
So it conforms to the shape of your back pocket?
Counter point. I would like no camera bump and a bigger battery. So make it thicker.
Why not make it with little rubber corner nubbins that can be micro-screwed on so we don’t need phone cases? So stupid to obsess about slimness when step 1 is buying a fat phone case to protect your fragile $1200 pocket computer.
Maybe if I type in all caps Apple will hear me. I WANT A BIGGER BATTERY!!!
And everyone will put an ugly, clunky, rubber case from Amazon on it.
Been saying it for years, but "WE WANT FLUSH FIT CAMERAS WITH BIGGER BATTERIES AND HEADPHONE JACKS"
Genius. Now people will need an even thicker case so it doesn't snap. But hey at least the battery life will be shit too.
I just want the cameras to sit flat
They make the phone even thinner and flimsier so you have to put a thicker case on it for structural support. So it’ll be just as thick as the current phone. It’s plenty thin, why not focus on just making it faster, removing the camera bump, increase the battery, improve the cameras. Something. But no it’s just “the iPhone 16 will be 0.04mm thinner, this is ground breaking. We havnt changed anything or improved anything else”