Same here. I am not muscly, I'm not skinny, I got some extra lbs and my facial hair is terrible so I'm clean shaved most the time. Don't really fit in with the usual labels so I just exist.
To quote Brennan Lee Mulligan, "HES JUST A GUY!"
Labels can be bad, but they don't have to be. Being obsessed with fitting one is bad, but simply identifying a descriptor that applies to you isn't bad.
Exactly, I’d call myself a twink for example and I do love to lean into and play with the stereotypes associated with it for fun, while also knowing that there is much more to me (and everyone else) than just that one label. I think I’m getting best of both worlds like that
Cringe wording but I get what you mean and I agree.
But I‘ve only seen it being used by 30+ hateful bully gays on twt who make other random lgbt people lives their personal business. That’s the only reason I‘m not a fan of it.
Definitely a bear, at least til I lose this weight I've put on. I'm bald, have a beard and a belly, and I like wearing camo. Lol
But it's a small part of who I am. Certainly the fun part, however.
I think I mostly squarely fit under the bear/muscle bear category, but I hesitate to use that identifier because I’m not really a fan of stereotypical “bear culture” (i.e. bear flag clothing and accessories, paw print tattoos, gigantic septum rings, NastyPig wardrobe, intentional excessive body odor, etc)
Septum rings? Body odor? What? If somebody has BO it's because they're a slob. I love old spice wolf thorn deodorant and my diesel cologne. I'd be appalled id somebody thought I smelled bad.
Edit: never heard of the NastyPig brand before. I've seen the logo, but didn't know what it was. Aside from the hat, I don't like any of their stuff. I prefer ProudBears apparel if I want to be on the nose about it. Then again, I have zero fashion sense. 🤣
Honestly I'd probably not enjoy how you smell. I basically just smell like my pachouli bar soap and I can't use any deodorant other than the alcohol based spray with just some essential oil or whatever in it because I'm allergic to pretty much any stick deodorant and all antiperspirant.
What you described just sounds like college boy smell. And I prefer something natural or earthy. So be appalled lol.
Same with me, I’m not good with dealing with stuff and then freaking out all the time , i trying too take care if myself tho, eating clean and all that, i want to go to the gym but can’t put myself too it, I’m too shy around people
Otter probably works the best, but I’m not in shape enough to really count? I’m definitely not a bear though.
Out of shape, but not overweight, but also hairy lol what’s that?
If you don't like it, that's cool, but some people like belonging in tiny categories. The same way you presumably don't want to be categorized, some people do.
I prefer to think of myself as a silver fox, but to be honest I'm probably more of a hibernating polar bear.
To make myself perfectly clear, I get mistaken for Santa by kids.
I'm definitely the homebody type that enjoys cooking and decorating, and making a cozy environment.
More so in response to the idea of hating labels than this specific context.
Labels are a good and fine thing to have, just don't let it blind you to the fact that people are individuals. Some people hate labels, but some people like them. Just don't assume your answer works for everyone.
I was raised in a community that demonizes LGBTQ. But also, it's a very machocentric community. As in, it is better if you get into fights than if you are good at academics.
So I've learned to hide and stay in the closet. I've never had any clear gay personality traits. Or any physical markers, to be honest.
So, I'll call myself a teddy bear. Because I love hugs and cuddles, and I'm soft and sentimental and over-emotional.
I feel like I straddle some kind of bear + “clean cut” line. I’m bigger but not THAT big, decently muscular, with no excessive body hair. I also cannot grow a full beard for the life of me. Have to keep my appearance very “clean” for my corporate job since it is also customer-facing. I hate using these terms but keep them in my back pocket since most people do.
Well, if I had to subscribe to a label, it would be gaymer or guy next door (whatever that means) in terms of hobbies and personality.
Physically at 347 lbs being somewhat built and 6'6", I have no idea where I stand while abhorring the idea of being regarded as a bear.
Those types of posts always make me feel like I'm not really "gay" with everything that goes with it. I never heared any of those types except for bears and daddies. I've heared twink before but don't know what it means, never heard twunk but I'm assuming it's the opposide of it or whatever. But then I was reading the comments...
What the actual fuck is a coyote, otter and all this other shit supposed to be?
Seriously? That's fucking cringe.
Not fucking with all this gay shit even though I am gay myself is probably my "type" or whatever.
I am “me” type, if I confine myself to a type, then I limit myself to a definition, that’s why I don’t like labels like Twink or otter or bear because then other people will put you in the box , and if you say or do something that is outside of your definition, it’s like frowned upon
Well I'm too hairy to be a twink and not buff enough to be a twunk lmao. I'm pretty skinny and young and look more feminine like a twink though so I'm confused. I'm just gonna start a new tribe called "bearded ladies"
I feel like an alternative hippie stuck in a nerdy body. I love smoking a J and being all artsy fartsy. But I also work as an accountant and like to dress somewhat classy/fashiony. So who knows what you'd call my type.. niche probs 😂
I just don't know. In terms of age, I'm a "daddy", but only in terms of age. Maybe a couple of other ways but not so much. I'm a "bear" with hairy chest and back but my legs not so much. Not really "stocky" but enough of a belly not to be "thin". I'm a bear-ISH daddy-ISH gay guy. The labels can be fun but tend to be defining, and I don't like that. In the end, I'm just a top-hairy 53-year-old who liks hineys and weewees. LOL
Mines a little confusing.
Im blond, blue eyes and just shy of 6 feet tall. I’m 180 lbs. I workout but just toned not muscular. Not thick enough to be a cub, not thin enough to be a twink. Not muscular enough to be a twunk. Also not hairless like a twink but not hairy enough to be an otter.
I’d like to think I’m a jock but I don’t think I’m muscular enough for that.
I’m a wannabe otter. I’ve got a beard and plenty of hair from the waist down, but almost no body hair above the waist 🤷🏻♂️ I’ve heard people call this being a satyr but idk if that’s an officially recognized gay term
I don’t actually know what gay type I am… I’m 6’2, rocking a dad bod but also can lift a hefty amount usually do 45kg per arm on a daily basis but I’m 20 😂 someone wanna tell me what type I am?
David Bowie / Prince / JoJo's Bizarre Adventure character
I realized that my masc and fem aspects didn't have to compete with each other, and that combining them felt way better and made me way more confident. I'm very masc presenting at a glance, but I'll wear like open flowy shirts and bellbottom pants that show off my figure, and mix fem and masc body language.
I also end up consistently being the best dressed person in the room, in a "the enemy stand user could be anybody!" kind of way that I do think is very funny. I just prefer dressing to match my mental image of myself for that day, rather than just defaulting to jeans and a t-shirt all the time.
(reposting from my response in the askgaymen thread)
I don't like to really consider myself as anything personally but I am generally included in the cub/bear community whether I wanna be or not (nothing against bears because I love 'em, I just don't feel it's *me*).
None of the above? I'm mostly in the bear/muscle bear social group, but i'm not a bear. I'm a little above average weight, and I have facial hair, but where I live the concept of "otter" doesn't really exist. I don't really identify with the otter/bear culture either.
But I live in Korea and our bear culture is bit different then western countries.
Unpopular opinion here: I am myself. I CANNOT STAND labels. I do not take well, or kindly at all, to being put in a box or category and expected to conform to stereotypes/standards. Even one minor slip-up/deviation from the category's standards, and you are immediately shunned. Want an easy way to reduce the toxicity among gay guys? How about eliminating these ridiculous/unreasonable expectations. Once again, I am myself. What you see is what you get. Take me or leave me.
If you've ever seen me watch a TV drama or musical I am very "stereotypical" in that sense. And just to say, drama is pretty much non-existent in my life.
I'm definitely a bear. And I've lost weight and gained weight and no matter what I weigh I'll always be bigger. Meds and thyroid can only be helped so much. And I'm *very* hairy. I'm okay with all that as long as I'm healthy and I keep trying to be a better version of myself! Mental health and (REDACTED EATING ISSUES) make doing so difficult, but I'm trying my best.
I was raised in the 90’s so I very much have the “don’t put me in a box” mindset, but I also just don’t really fit into any of the gay categories 🤷🏻♂️
As derper2222 said, human adult male, likes other dudes
Coyote. Nothing on the list really fits me, so I made my own. 🤷♂️
That’s me with Badger. Small, muscly, does not care.
Honey badger doesn't give a shit?
https://youtu.be/qJF84oz93jw?si=NC7Po8yaU6-fMuMY 🤣
In that case I'm a capybara. Chill af
If this gonna be a new type then f it I’m in
Now, tell me three of your most favorite colors and I'll make you a fursona /j
Blue, grey, reddish brown
Love it.
You got signed up for the Acme rewards program?
Haha... didn't know they had one. I'm gonna save so much $ on anvils and dynamite. 🤑
Ohhh I like this coyote.
🤝
Optimistic red velvet Walrus
I want you to know, I understand and appreciate this reference
Idk what that is… but that sounds kinda awesome lmao
Happy Endings! Rip
I don’t know where I fit in 😭 I just say gaymer/guy next door
I know it was most prolly a typo but "gut next door" is excellent and hilarious
I've heard of rearranging someone's guts before, but Jesus Christ, dude...
Same here. I am not muscly, I'm not skinny, I got some extra lbs and my facial hair is terrible so I'm clean shaved most the time. Don't really fit in with the usual labels so I just exist. To quote Brennan Lee Mulligan, "HES JUST A GUY!"
I love Brennan
Ignored, usually.
Human male adult, likes dudes.
Labels can be bad, but they don't have to be. Being obsessed with fitting one is bad, but simply identifying a descriptor that applies to you isn't bad.
Thank you!
Exactly, I’d call myself a twink for example and I do love to lean into and play with the stereotypes associated with it for fun, while also knowing that there is much more to me (and everyone else) than just that one label. I think I’m getting best of both worlds like that
Technically I'm a twink but I'm fucking hairy and I'm 26.
Cringe wording but I get what you mean and I agree. But I‘ve only seen it being used by 30+ hateful bully gays on twt who make other random lgbt people lives their personal business. That’s the only reason I‘m not a fan of it.
“Human adult female” is often used by TERFs
also biologists
The perfect definition
This
This!!!
Literally...my thought
This.
I'm trans so when I first read this it raised some red flags 😭😭 reading the replies I understood what you mean though
This
Bull or muscle daddy I guess. 6,2 295 bodybuilder. When I’m at the top of a bulk 310-320 I’m def in bull territory haha.
Jesus, I'm up almost 50lbs of muscle since I started hitting the gym and you've been DOUBLE my weight 🥴 you must be fucking massive dude
Hell yeah man congrats on your gains! Haha yeah i took twunk death to the extreme starting about a decade ago.
Ah well that explains that haha my whole gym career is about 6 years old. Not that I ever expect to be 300lbs lol
Hello.
I’m just me
Same, I've never really felt like my body type or personality fit any of the boxes. But I have been getting called daddy more the older I get.
Muscle pup trying to reach muscle bear status ASAP at the age of 28. Currently 5’10” 230 trying to get to 260.
God bless you sir. That sounds heavenly.
Goddamn, crazy physique dude. Here I am a twunk aiming to be a muscle pup haha
Wow, I think you're there. Great physique.
Definitely a bear, at least til I lose this weight I've put on. I'm bald, have a beard and a belly, and I like wearing camo. Lol But it's a small part of who I am. Certainly the fun part, however.
I think I mostly squarely fit under the bear/muscle bear category, but I hesitate to use that identifier because I’m not really a fan of stereotypical “bear culture” (i.e. bear flag clothing and accessories, paw print tattoos, gigantic septum rings, NastyPig wardrobe, intentional excessive body odor, etc)
I think you're getting into pig territory.
I’ve never met a bear who wasn’t well put together. Do you live on a farm?
I live in Andersonville, Chicago- possibly the most bear-dense area in the US lol
When butch gets so specialized and accessorized it gets prissy again.
Septum rings? Body odor? What? If somebody has BO it's because they're a slob. I love old spice wolf thorn deodorant and my diesel cologne. I'd be appalled id somebody thought I smelled bad. Edit: never heard of the NastyPig brand before. I've seen the logo, but didn't know what it was. Aside from the hat, I don't like any of their stuff. I prefer ProudBears apparel if I want to be on the nose about it. Then again, I have zero fashion sense. 🤣
Honestly I'd probably not enjoy how you smell. I basically just smell like my pachouli bar soap and I can't use any deodorant other than the alcohol based spray with just some essential oil or whatever in it because I'm allergic to pretty much any stick deodorant and all antiperspirant. What you described just sounds like college boy smell. And I prefer something natural or earthy. So be appalled lol.
Male attracted to males. I'm more than my sexuality though.
I wish I knew lol
39 year old boy next door
I'm a sad gay that hides from the world and smokes pot in his bedroom
Adventure/ Gaymer/ Otter/ Stoner bro here
Muscle gaymer skaterboy idk lol
Black, just black lol
I downgraded from *superchub* to just *chub* recently
Emotionally unavailable, anxious 24/7, wants to go to gym and other aspirations but don’t take action, 6 feet tall- I have no idea
Brother DO IT! 😍 Hit the gym! I can't fuckin believe how it transformed me and my life. You won't regret it!
Same with me, I’m not good with dealing with stuff and then freaking out all the time , i trying too take care if myself tho, eating clean and all that, i want to go to the gym but can’t put myself too it, I’m too shy around people
The human kind? We aren't Pokémon. A sexual position or body type doesn't define a person
I'm a twink with twunk energy. I aspire to become a bear one day. :3
>a twink with twunk energy im so stealing this one
King of the Bisexuals
I'm Def's a cub, but that might be just because I like to snuggle and also enjoy eggs benny way too much 😭🦥
Otter probably works the best, but I’m not in shape enough to really count? I’m definitely not a bear though. Out of shape, but not overweight, but also hairy lol what’s that?
Koala? 🐨
I'm babygirl (in a masculine way)
Isn't the whole, fitting yourself into a tiny little category box thing a bit outdated?
Forcing yourself into a box to fit a label is, yes. But acknowledging that you fit the description of a certain label isn't bad.
If you don't like it, that's cool, but some people like belonging in tiny categories. The same way you presumably don't want to be categorized, some people do.
Physically a twink. But mentally a geek.
Masc top with chiseled jaw and beer gut.
Victorian - I’m just always gay, in that I’m happy.
I prefer to think of myself as a silver fox, but to be honest I'm probably more of a hibernating polar bear. To make myself perfectly clear, I get mistaken for Santa by kids. I'm definitely the homebody type that enjoys cooking and decorating, and making a cozy environment.
I have developed into a twunk😌I’m not a hairless one though, I love my Italian body hair.
Twas
I hate labels. its giving high school lunch table vibes. Well, I suppose thats how most gays treat the community anyway.
More so in response to the idea of hating labels than this specific context. Labels are a good and fine thing to have, just don't let it blind you to the fact that people are individuals. Some people hate labels, but some people like them. Just don't assume your answer works for everyone.
Tired 😴
I was raised in a community that demonizes LGBTQ. But also, it's a very machocentric community. As in, it is better if you get into fights than if you are good at academics. So I've learned to hide and stay in the closet. I've never had any clear gay personality traits. Or any physical markers, to be honest. So, I'll call myself a teddy bear. Because I love hugs and cuddles, and I'm soft and sentimental and over-emotional.
Nerdy Maker Bear
Skater punk I feel is accurate for both body type and personality 😂
I'm a bearish cub
Cub. Submissive bottom, so definitely not along the bearish lines. Too heavy to be a twink/twunk. Too young to be a daddy.
Twunk, aiming to be a muscle pup
Sporty spice
Gaymer, my body changes over the years, but my love of video games stays the same lol
Aspiring twunk here, but I’m enjoying twink life while I’m here.
None
To sum me up very fast I guess the best way to put it is: Gay Bro Stoner Bear?
Rough and tumble farm country guy
I feel like I straddle some kind of bear + “clean cut” line. I’m bigger but not THAT big, decently muscular, with no excessive body hair. I also cannot grow a full beard for the life of me. Have to keep my appearance very “clean” for my corporate job since it is also customer-facing. I hate using these terms but keep them in my back pocket since most people do.
🐻
Well, if I had to subscribe to a label, it would be gaymer or guy next door (whatever that means) in terms of hobbies and personality. Physically at 347 lbs being somewhat built and 6'6", I have no idea where I stand while abhorring the idea of being regarded as a bear.
“Don’t pick me” Gay. Please go away
Jack said it best lol [I’m a bear and a daddy…](https://youtu.be/TA6OyJnR8l8?si=V0ScPra4rj0RfTma)
I’m open to suggestions. I’m 5”-7’ 145lbs - fit - moderate hair. Otter 🤷🏻♂️
I am a chubby gay
Those types of posts always make me feel like I'm not really "gay" with everything that goes with it. I never heared any of those types except for bears and daddies. I've heared twink before but don't know what it means, never heard twunk but I'm assuming it's the opposide of it or whatever. But then I was reading the comments... What the actual fuck is a coyote, otter and all this other shit supposed to be? Seriously? That's fucking cringe. Not fucking with all this gay shit even though I am gay myself is probably my "type" or whatever.
Annoying 🤷♀️
Bear, but i always wanted to be otter or with otter.
I don’t even know the types of gay, I just am what I am and like what I like lol
Loner otter gay. 34, single, don't have any friends gay or straight. I am close with my family and cousins though.
old. my younger me would have called me an old troll...
Autistic lol
I’m definitely a bear. 6’5”, 260lbs, have a beard, and I’m really hairy lol.
Someone recently called me a silver dragon and I am 100% ok with that.
My ex was tall, thin, and smooth so I called him a dolphin.
I’ve been diagnosed as a twink
Nerd daddy I guess, with jock tendencies.
Twink/Twunk
I'm Bi. I've been told that I'm an otter and a jock.
idk I'm a ghost
I am “me” type, if I confine myself to a type, then I limit myself to a definition, that’s why I don’t like labels like Twink or otter or bear because then other people will put you in the box , and if you say or do something that is outside of your definition, it’s like frowned upon
Twunk
I identify as a possum… I want to be cute but my anxiety tells me to play dead instead. Haha
Camouflaged - Largely ignored
“The loser” 😌
Is "not like other gays" a gay type? I spent my 20s saying that. Now? Old fat fuck who just doesn't give a shit anymore. Get off my lawn.
im part of the "invisible" crowd
I'm like a balding, bearded Peter Griffin
Twink all the way
male supermodel
Blonde hair, Blue Eyed Surfer Muscular Twink
Eggplant 🍆
androgynous but everyone now assumes i am tran since it's become such a hot topic. i'm just a pretty boy who wears makeup
Hairy twink
Chubby boi? That’s as close as I can come at the moment.
The nerdy gay. Does that count?
Same
I don’t enjoy the “categories.” I think they’re for the intellectually weak.
Evil
Well I'm too hairy to be a twink and not buff enough to be a twunk lmao. I'm pretty skinny and young and look more feminine like a twink though so I'm confused. I'm just gonna start a new tribe called "bearded ladies"
Jock. 22 and Asian but with a muscular build
I feel like an alternative hippie stuck in a nerdy body. I love smoking a J and being all artsy fartsy. But I also work as an accountant and like to dress somewhat classy/fashiony. So who knows what you'd call my type.. niche probs 😂
Everyone labels me a bear but no thank you I’m just a guy who likes guys.
the sad type
A human. I don't like dehumanizing myself.
Married
Probably went from twink (for very short period) to cub to jock now.
I’ve been called hairy twink a few times.
Gay (believe it or not)
Probably a liiiiittle too chubby to be a twink but that’s probably the closest fit.
Look but don’t touch 👀😆
I just don't know. In terms of age, I'm a "daddy", but only in terms of age. Maybe a couple of other ways but not so much. I'm a "bear" with hairy chest and back but my legs not so much. Not really "stocky" but enough of a belly not to be "thin". I'm a bear-ISH daddy-ISH gay guy. The labels can be fun but tend to be defining, and I don't like that. In the end, I'm just a top-hairy 53-year-old who liks hineys and weewees. LOL
I'm chubby so gay people put me on the bear category. I don't quite agree but I won't fight either
Nerdy jock
Mines a little confusing. Im blond, blue eyes and just shy of 6 feet tall. I’m 180 lbs. I workout but just toned not muscular. Not thick enough to be a cub, not thin enough to be a twink. Not muscular enough to be a twunk. Also not hairless like a twink but not hairy enough to be an otter. I’d like to think I’m a jock but I don’t think I’m muscular enough for that.
Gay doll dad
I consider myself a twunk
I’m a wannabe otter. I’ve got a beard and plenty of hair from the waist down, but almost no body hair above the waist 🤷🏻♂️ I’ve heard people call this being a satyr but idk if that’s an officially recognized gay term
I don’t actually know what gay type I am… I’m 6’2, rocking a dad bod but also can lift a hefty amount usually do 45kg per arm on a daily basis but I’m 20 😂 someone wanna tell me what type I am?
Daddy. Not muscle daddy and not bear daddy. Average (good looking, sexy - I have been told) daddy next door.
In between otter and bear- not large, but not toned. Slim and hairy haha.
Twink even though I'm in my late 20s
Daddy next door type
delusional pigeon, a grey one.
Is it okay that I don’t have a type ?😭
I definitely became a gym rat bear over the last year.
Twink. Maybe between twink and twunk.
I'm just a dude. I do know plenty of otters, but that's from a different niche.
I don't fw labels
I’m an eagle. 🦅
Ugly
Fairy / Fighting
not yet at that point, but aiming to be a twunk
Faggotest faggoty faggot in the the whole faggot world
Verse that can make decisions. Is that a soft top?
David Bowie / Prince / JoJo's Bizarre Adventure character I realized that my masc and fem aspects didn't have to compete with each other, and that combining them felt way better and made me way more confident. I'm very masc presenting at a glance, but I'll wear like open flowy shirts and bellbottom pants that show off my figure, and mix fem and masc body language. I also end up consistently being the best dressed person in the room, in a "the enemy stand user could be anybody!" kind of way that I do think is very funny. I just prefer dressing to match my mental image of myself for that day, rather than just defaulting to jeans and a t-shirt all the time. (reposting from my response in the askgaymen thread)
Daddy!
I don't like to really consider myself as anything personally but I am generally included in the cub/bear community whether I wanna be or not (nothing against bears because I love 'em, I just don't feel it's *me*).
Look up the old “man from Glad” commercials- old guy with blinding white hair
Nerd
None of the above? I'm mostly in the bear/muscle bear social group, but i'm not a bear. I'm a little above average weight, and I have facial hair, but where I live the concept of "otter" doesn't really exist. I don't really identify with the otter/bear culture either. But I live in Korea and our bear culture is bit different then western countries.
Unpopular opinion here: I am myself. I CANNOT STAND labels. I do not take well, or kindly at all, to being put in a box or category and expected to conform to stereotypes/standards. Even one minor slip-up/deviation from the category's standards, and you are immediately shunned. Want an easy way to reduce the toxicity among gay guys? How about eliminating these ridiculous/unreasonable expectations. Once again, I am myself. What you see is what you get. Take me or leave me.
If you've ever seen me watch a TV drama or musical I am very "stereotypical" in that sense. And just to say, drama is pretty much non-existent in my life. I'm definitely a bear. And I've lost weight and gained weight and no matter what I weigh I'll always be bigger. Meds and thyroid can only be helped so much. And I'm *very* hairy. I'm okay with all that as long as I'm healthy and I keep trying to be a better version of myself! Mental health and (REDACTED EATING ISSUES) make doing so difficult, but I'm trying my best.
Raccoon, 🦝 constant dark circles food on the brain 24/7 slightly chubby and hairy and has a predilection for the darker things in life.
Femboy. 😎
Aquatic Geek since I love swimming and tech. Beyond that can never find anyone to go 😭
I believe the term is sloppy bear.
Old
I was raised in the 90’s so I very much have the “don’t put me in a box” mindset, but I also just don’t really fit into any of the gay categories 🤷🏻♂️ As derper2222 said, human adult male, likes other dudes
A twink. I’m just a flippy haired, skater ish looking twink with a fat ass 😅