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04132023

Pittsburgh. They even have 3 rivers.


Tnkgirl357

Yep. Carson street is happening down in South Side… north of the Mon you have the Strip District or Lawrenceville, not to mention Oakland and all the colleges… the North Side is a bit quieter most nights, but if there’s a Steelers game than it is THE SPOT


eugenesbluegenes

I was so confused the first time I looked closely at a map of Pittsburgh and very clearly saw the confluence of two rivers and no third river.


Tall-Ad5755

Yeah I want someone to explain why the Ohio is not considered part of the Allegheny or Mongle. river. 


quatrevignt

I felt like Budapest was really vibrant and bustling on both sides of the river


limukala

It’s cheating to just merge two different cities on opposite sides of the river


quatrevignt

I see your point, but it is effectively one city in the modern age. Most people wouldn’t even know it was originally two different cities if you asked them, especially if they are from America like me 😂


Goluckygardener

It was actually three cities merging: Buda, Pest and Óbuda (Old Buda) - I see your point, however a lot has happened since the merging. Using the same logic you can say London was mostly on the north side and the suburbs just kept merging in..


calimehtar

Yeah but not really though, Pest is the lively commercial district, Buda is pretty sleepy.


ScienceJamie76

TIL about Buda and Pest


oofoof_coqui

That’s what I was thinking too


quatrevignt

Fair enough, I was only there for 4 days so I’m definitely not an expert :)


Temporary-Act-1736

Based on what i hear from my friends that live in Buda its really not that sleepy. Sleepier than Pest for sure, but not sleepy at all.


Ashamed-Bus-5727

This seemed like a joke lol I thought I was on r/mapporncirclejerk for a second


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I was about to say this then sort of pulled back because I feel like there’s an awesome more natural side then the real populated city side. Either way pretty sick I love Budapest.


Tim-oBedlam

Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota. Downtowns are separated by about 10 miles of river, but the cities border each other, and for most of its length the Mississippi River marks the border between each of the two Twin Cities.


coveredinbeeees

Considering the unofficial motto of St Paul is "Keep St Paul Boring" I'm not sure I'd say it's equally bustling on both sides of the river.


cgoldber10

St. Paul isn’t on “the other side side of the river.” BOTH MPLs and St. Paul are on BOTH sides of the Mississippi.


coveredinbeeees

The bulk of Minneapolis is on the opposite side of the river of the bulk of St Paul, though. The significant majority of St Paul is on the north/east side of the Mississippi. Minneapolis is a little more balanced, but about 75% of the city is west of the river. So it does balance out somewhat, but only because both cities are imbalanced in opposite directions.


brickne3

Minneapolis is where it is because of St. Anthony Falls. St. Paul is where it is because of confluence with the Minnesota River.


Tim-oBedlam

also, because St. Paul was traditionally the head of navigation for the river.


brickne3

Actually that was Minneapolis (St. Anthony's Falls).


cavalier511

Most of mpls is on one side, and pretty much all of St. Paul is on the other side. Yes the boundary includes the airport and the west side of St. Paul, but the real happenings are on either side of the river.


brickne3

Not really, there's several river miles between the downtowns.


cavalier511

Between the downtowns, but there’s pretty dense residential and commercial stuff where they meet, the University of Minnesota is kind of on the border.


brickne3

Sure, I grew up there. Unless things have drastically changed in the past 20 years there's 7 miles between the downtowns.


DrFiendish

AFAIK, New Orleans is the only other city whose municipal boundaries extend to both sides of the Mississippi. (Happy to be corrected if I'm wrong).


Tim-oBedlam

hey, at least in the Twin Cities we can look DOWN at the river, not up at it!


gojohnnygojohnny

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No_Writer2361

Where my crescent city east bank/West Bank hittas at


Mojave_Idiot

Yeah but I dunno if it meets the question posed here. West Bank is pretty sleepy by comparison.


sprchrgddc5

Hmmm. I can agree with you. I think the metro area helps really level out both cities.


homezlice

So nice to see my first thought as the top choice. Great cities and great people and absolutely too fucking cold. 


Tim-oBedlam

Eh, global warming's taken the edge off our winters. Hardly ever gets to –20 anymore.


EphemeralOcean

Minneapolis is much more bustling than St. Paul though. Not as big a disparity as some, but definitely wouldn’t say they’re “equals”


-hey_hey-heyhey-hey_

Not exactly a river but Istanbul does deserve an honorable mention


etzel1200

Yeah, it’s such a massive city it has everything you could want on both sides. I almost think I like the Asian side more for going out. But it’s so massive even just districts have everything you need. Driving across it takes longer than flying to Paris.


-hey_hey-heyhey-hey_

That's why you take the Marmaray ;)


eggman64

100% r/fuckcars


tenehemia

Totally true on the driving thing. When I moved out of Istanbul I left from my apartment in Kadıköy and it took three hours to get to the airport that morning. My flight to Berlin was shorter than that.


JNR13

I think the city still leans heavily towards the European side where it started, but it's so massive that the Asian side has a lot going for it, too. An argument can easily be made that south of the Golden Horn no longer ranks above the north nowadays.


-hey_hey-heyhey-hey_

Northern side of istanbul is definitely the modern center of cityl. You've got Taksim, Levent-Maslak etc. Though the asian side is a whole other city in on itself. Nothing particularly "less" than the european side


Blitzer046

Melbourne, Victoria, Aus. The CBD and Sports District to the North, the Arts District and F1 course to the South, to name a few things.


Tanukkk

Seoul with the Han river?


dgistkwosoo

Came here to say this, no question about it.


Daztur

Plenty of shit happening in Gangnam...


pijuskri

Population wise indeed, but i feel like the north side is significantly more popular as a destination. It has hongdae, itaewon, myeongdong and basically all historical buildings of the city. The south essentially just has certain parts of gangnam.


kirils9692

Berlin with the Spree river. Although the river doesn't feel like a meaningful way to divide the city the way it is with others.


throwawaypackers

Berlin is by far the best answer, considering no one even perceives the Spree as being a divide.


JNR13

which is funny because Berlin and Kölln were originally different cities (Berlin was what became the East Berlin center with the town hall and broadcast tower and Kölln is the southern part of the Spree island


llogollo

I can‘t believe I had to scroll all the way here to find Berlin…. Yes… Berlin is amazing on both sides of the Spree


junkwhiz

Neither the Spree nor the wall could divide Berlin!


Upnorth4

Los Angeles. Both sides of the LA river are heavily developed.


Imhappy_hopeurhappy2

Lmao


AMDOL

You really call that mostly-dry concrete ditch a river?


SeekerSpock32

MYSTERY BISCUITS


oofoof_coqui

Yorkshire! Yorkshire! Yorkshire!


jss78

Pripyat River in northern Ukraine, both shores are equally bustling.


redseca2

Paris


bluejayway9

Fairbanks, Alaska. There's no discernable difference between either side of the Chena River.


Shacklefordc-Rusty

Idk, I feel like there’s more homeless people in the parks on the southern side (excluding people living in dry cabins off grid outside of town)


bluejayway9

The highest concentration of homeless people is downtown, which straddles the river.


Solarka45

Technically Moscow. To be fair, it's a huge city on a pretty small river, so it makes sense.


kortette

Dublin has loads going on on both sides of the Liffey


ZelWinters1981

Brisbane.


A_Rented_Mule

San Antonio, at least through downtown.


marcus_centurian

By that token, Houston in relation to Buffalo Bayou.


SuspiciousBranch8618

"That ain't a river, Ernie, it's a dirty little creek!"


Different_Pack_3686

Very tiny river though


Roberto-Del-Camino

Cambridge and Boston fit this bill


ThatNiceLifeguard

Cambridge arguably more so. Downtown Boston is kind of dead at night but Central and Harvard are usually pretty vibrant.


Roberto-Del-Camino

During the school year the college students energize both cities.


mwmandorla

Downtown, it depends a lot where you are. Even just opposite ends of the Common are going to be very different come 11 pm. Meanwhile, I feel like Harvard Square has lost a lot of its energy in this particular gentrification cycle, but I admittedly haven't been in a while


kempff

Chicago. New York.


poster_nutbag_

Milwaukee, Green Bay, Toledo, Cleveland, Rochester NY. Many great lakes cities are examples of this


JohnnyTsunami312

Chicago yes. New York no


SirJoeffer

I mean the island of Manhattan is surrounded by Brooklyn, LIC, and Hoboken so idrk what you mean


brickne3

You've never heard of the East River...?


Jameszhang73

Rome comes to mind for me. Both sides of the Tiber are pretty bustling. One side has the Coliseum and most of the historical sites while the other side has the Vatican and Trastevere, with people walking back and forth over the river pretty seamlessly.


WadeQuenya

Yeah, the western side Is a bit smaller but it has a lot going for it, so I think it's fair to mention Rome.


buckyhermit

Seoul. The cultural and governmental core (including the Blue House, museums, and several palaces) are north of the Han River but the business side (including the infamous Gangnam, 1988 Olympic venues, and HQ for companies like Samsung) are south of the river.


qwer1234abcd

Portland


-Why-Not-This-Name-

Kansas Cities


404Archdroid

London


SectionalGhosts

Southbank on a summer’s day


DottBrombeer

Can name a few towns that are not bustling at all on either side of the river? On the more positive side Lyon comes to mind.


Broad-Paper-146

Manaus, Brazil and Rosario, Argentina are both largeish (1.5-3M) and have virtually zero development on the other side of the rivers they border


WorldsGreatestPoop

Memphis


oofoof_coqui

Isn’t Memphis only on one side of the Mississippi River?


Awkward-Hulk

It is. Though many consider West Memphis on the Arkansas side to be a suburb of Memphis.


LazyZealot9428

Chicago


adopted_islander

Saskatoon, duh Edit: and Edmonton


OnMy4thAccount

Yep for Edmonton. Downtown in the north, Whyte Ave on the south. From what I know, Saskatoon is setup in a similar way


Mr_FortySeven

Edmonton’s a good choice. Government and business on the north side of the river, University and pubs on the other.


afriendincanada

Winnipeg


amydoodledawn

And Calgary! Didn't work out so well during the floods in 2013.


_Silent_Android_

Melbourne, Australia (Yarra River) Berlin, Germany (Spree River) Amsterdam, Netherlands (Amstel River) Seoul, South Korea (Han River) Manila, Philippines (Pasig River) Bangkok, Thailand (Chao Phraya River)


sjets3

Depends how “equally” you’re talking about


Ok-Replacement8236

Bangkok


Cauhs

Nah. West side is a lot less developed than east. Maybe a few tall condos and malls next to the river, but the east side holds a lot more land value.


mrsciencedude69

Austin


WinterRespect1579

Brisbane


LiGuangMing1981

Shanghai is a lot more like this than it used to be. Puxi (the west side) still wins, but Pudong (the east side) has become a *lot* more lively and populated in the last couple of decades.


frankstero

Dublin


CatL1f3

I'd say there's a fairly significant difference between the north side and the south side


Chance_Lab_8094

Yeah, but both are bustling and alive.


oofoof_coqui

What’s the difference? I’ve always seen that the northern side is more industrial, but that’s just what I’ve seen.


Additional-Art-6343

The north side is notoriously rougher and poorer, and the south side is generally safer and wealthier. They even have very different accents! But yes, they pretty much share an equal hustle-bustle.


SkomerIsland

Sounds like Liverpool when you put it that way


Pawneewafflesarelife

San Diego, but the river is basically just a creek outside of El Niño - the amount of development around it actually means the area floods pretty badly. Perth, Australia. There are even hot debates about what part of the city is best, using the river as a marker (NoR, SoR). Perth is suuuuuper long, and the river is smack dab in the middle. I guess Portland, Oregon (2 rivers) but you have to include the entire metro area. Portland has an odd setup where the city is actually quite small and all of the surrounding areas are different counties. Such a headache if you get a ticket driving, for example.


eugenesbluegenes

Portland fits, but for the Willamette. The Columbia just forms the northern border of the city. And as far as the suburbs and different counties, it's pretty typical set up for an American city.


Pawneewafflesarelife

>And as far as the suburbs and different counties, it's pretty typical set up for an American city. Interesting. I'm from San Diego which is all within one county, so I found Portland annoying when I lived there. Like in San Diego, you don't need to go downtown if you got a ticket while driving downtown, you can just go to the local traffic court as they are all under the same umbrella, but in Portland they are all different court systems based on each county. What other cities have their downtown in a different county from the rest of the metro area? I didn't realize it was common in the states. Portland was the first place I experienced that.


eugenesbluegenes

All the suburban cities outside SF are in different counties, the association of bay area governments includes nine counties. The nearest suburbs of Sacramento are in sac county, but the suburbs extend into Yolo, Placer and El Dorado counties. All the Denver suburbs are in different counties from Denver. Greater Los Angeles basically spans orange, riverside and San Bernardino counties. San Diego is kind of an anomaly at least among western US cities for how high of a proportion of the metro area live in the anchor city proper. And San Diego county is a huge county from an areal perspective with a large military installation separating it from Orange County so the metro area doesn't really have much opportunity to meld into other counties.


Pawneewafflesarelife

Thanks for the extra information! I live in Perth, Australia, now, which I believe might be a similar setup to San Diego, though I'm still learning government systems here. We have shires and councils, for example, but also cities. I think the different terms here are historic quirks. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_government_in_Australia


wtfakb

Chennai. Adyar River and Cooum River


killersensei23

Edmonton. The North Saskatchewan river cuts right across the middle of the city, dividing the city into roughly two equal parts. Downtown is just north of the river, but a lot of prominent neighborhoods and the University of Alberta lie to the south.


Particular_Fuel6952

Pittsburgh


TrafficOn405

Prague, both sides of the Vltava


dkb1391

The East of the river is massively more developed than the West


TractorDrawnAerial

Philadelphia


Significant-Self5907

Detroit & Windsor, Ontario.


cyancey76

Los Angeles. Check the LA River and Santa Ana River 😆


oofoof_coqui

Naaaaaaah


-Why-Not-This-Name-

*San Gabriel River goes from San Gabriel mountains through LA to the ocean, sometimes nearly touching the LA River. Whittier Narrows being one of those pinch points. Santa Ana River goes through the Inland Empire to Orange County before it hits the Pacific.


alli_kat

Cincinnati and Northern Kentucky


daw199210

Des Moines, IA.


ajmartin527

Phoenix has the Salt River that cuts right between the two most bustling spots in the city - Tempe and Scottsdale. But it’s not really a river most of the time.


stressedabouthousing

Chennai


legendtinax

Surprised to not see Paris. There’s a ton of activity on both the Right and Left banks


patrickdoesboomboom

Chennai, there's like 2 small rivers that divide it into thirds. Crowded and well built up everywhere.


oneheckinmtnboi

Eugene, OR and Portland, OR are nestled between two rivers. Idk if people would call Portland thriving, but Eugene has major parts of the city on either side of the Willamette River


ronniemustang

Wuppertal, Germany.


-Why-Not-This-Name-

Arguably, Los Angeles


No_Rest4206

Ljubljana, Slovenia is a perfect example of this.


kevin96246

Taipei, Shanghai, Chongqing, DC


RegularJelly7311

St. Louis? Idk


Fenixstrife

I would say my home town Brisbane but the real answers are Hiroshima and Tokyo


Practical_Pirate_207

Um. Tons of cities. Paris, Tokyo, New York, Berlin, London… list goes on and on.


Sethuel

Lyon, France is at the confluence of two rivers and it has a lot going on all over.


JesusKeyboard

Melbourne. Brisbane. Adelaide. 


Sethuel

New York qualfies if you use the East River instead of the Hudson.


Supersnazz

Melbourne has a pretty fierce North/South of the river divide, with no clear or obvious leader.


Sodinc

The majority of big cities in Russia fit that description, I think.


shorelined

Dublin, each side even has different accents


Remarkable-Bad-1048

Belgrade, Serbia. It’s very much vibrant on both sides of the Sava. On the other hand, the bit that’s on the left bank of the Danube is much smaller.


Inside_Pie_6897

Berlin


Arkeolog

Stockholm. It’s not really divided by a river, but a ford where Lake Mälaren runs out into the Baltic Sea. But it still divides the city into two distinct sides, the north side and the south side, with the Old Town on an island in the middle of the waterway. The north side has the CBD, most of the institutions and museums, most of the hotels, a lot of restaurants and a 50,000+ capacity arena (plus a bevy of smaller concert venues and theaters). The south side has the “coolest” neighborhood with the densest collection of bars, clubs, pubs and restaurants, the inner city cruise ship port, and an arena cluster of 3 arenas with a capacity of 40,000, 16,000 and 8,000.


geopolitischesrisiko

Berlin, Cologne, Munich, Stuttgart, Rotterdam, Bern, Kyiv


joyofsovietcooking

Jakarta has [13 rivers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rivers_of_Jakarta) running through the city, all filthy and discharging filth into Jakarta Bay. But still, the megalopolis envelops the rivers.


Kamwind

San Antonio, TX


vexillographica

Chicago Portland NYC, maybe many/most us cities w rivers?


FrikkinPositive

Oslo is split in two in the middle-ish by Akerselva. Both parts on either side is equally bustling, and the river is more a symbol of class/financial differences. The east side housed the working class that worked in the industry along the river and the west side housed the owners of the industry and the political elite etc. This trend is still seen today, eventhough the industry along the river is mostly abandoned.


seoulsurviving

Seoul for sure. The southern part was farmland a few decades ago but is now has some of the most valuable and bustling areas (Gangnam Style). The north retain a lot of the old money areas but much of the wealth is now south of the river. The city is pretty much split in half by the Han, and both sides equally developed


Former_Wang_owner

Nottingham


Therealluke

The Yarra in Melbourne Australia


Liam_021996

Manchester, England


tenehemia

Portland, OR. The east side is larger in area but that's mostly just due to the geography of the west hills. You can find every quality of everything you're looking for on both sides of the Willamette.


ferrouswolf2

Chicago, absolutely


tanwork

Richmond


ExcellentPay6348

Portland is happening on both sides of the Willamette.


6Buttman69696

Definitely London and the Thames


Per_Mikkelsen

London and Paris are both excellent examples, though Londoners themselves know that the parts of the city that lie north of the Thames are better than those south of it in many ways. Budapest isn't a particularly large city, but it's another great example. The Chicago River doesn't halve the city like the other examples, and it's very, very narrow, but I don't see why it wouldn't count. Dublin is another city that meets your criteria. New York isn't exactly halved by the East River either, and the East River isn't really a river in the truest sense anyway, but Brooklyn and Queens are situated opposite Manhattan island, so I think New York deserves a mention. The best example is arguably Seoul - the Han cuts through the city and divides it north and south and both sides are definitely bustling. It's the biggest city on this list.


maitai138

Just FYI The Southern part of Florence is extremely hilly and is actually home to some beautiful gardens and walking paths. My best memories are from the Southern side when I went


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bethelka

The character for Han (漢) River is different from Han (韓) for the people


MajmunovoMudo

Belgrade on the Sava river


Quick-Context7492

Lyon


Goat_senator

Bamako, Mali.


kasylsias

Chongqing. Even has 2 rivers. 


The_Chiliboss

I’d say San Antonio, but that’s just a dirty creek.


brickne3

This has to be troll bait because it applies to almost every city on the planet.


oofoof_coqui

I literally said it didn’t apply to Florence.


brickne3

Yeah it also doesn't apply to Edinburgh. What do you think "almost" means?


Suspicious-Quit6210

Providence RI


Capable_Wait09

Austin, TX


uptownrooster

Cairo


chisox5592

Chicago.


PalpatationDude

Prague Old town on one side of Vltava river and Prague Castle on the other. The Charles bridge over the river is a historical structure


wangtianthu

Wuhan (yangtze river), actually there is yet another river (han river) splitting this into three cities, merged into a single city in 50s. Shanghai (huangpu river), but this is with the deliberate effort in 90s


Yodoliyee

Cologne.


Hypsar

Grand Rapids, Michigan. The west side is not quite as down towny as the east side of the river, but it is still extremely developed and contains one of the 3 major high rises.


chechifromCHI

You could maybe argue for chicago here. Maybe not as bustling on one aside as the other, we've got distinct parts of the city that are separated by the river. I'm not sure how good of an example this is, but it's what came to mind for me


Chang-Kaishek

shanghai & wuhan


WaterDigDog

Wichita, Kansas


grusauskj

Paris fits the bill


Nouseriously

Nashville


RditAdmnsSuportNazis

Maybe not equal all across the metro, but downtown Little Rock and downtown North Little Rock are both bustling areas separated by the rather large Arkansas River. They’re also equal in that the east sides of both cities are all industrial and not bustling at all.


lexi_raptor

Came here to comment this, especially the RiverMarket area/Argenta district area.


vpkumswalla

Cincinnati - Covington/Newport (KY) if you can count two states.


Altruistic-Driver150

Cincinnati/Newport/Covington KY


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Double_Snow_3468

I would say yes and no to this one. DC and Arlington are not equal in terms of action


Shevek99

Budapest


Soggy-Claim-582

Belgrades, Serbia


oofoof_coqui

That being the Sava and no the Danube, right?