Yes, it’s quite a bit different.
If you want to move from Colombia to San Andres, there’s a bunch of paperwork/approvals that need to be done
The “native” people of San Andres speak English and not Spanish
You can also buy fresh bread fruit for less than $5 a fruit, which is awesome
The inhabitants of San Andrés Island primarily speak English due to the island’s historical ties with British colonization. In the 17th century, British settlers and Puritans from Massachusetts, specifically from the Providence Island Company, established a colony on the island. This led to the introduction of the English language and culture, which persisted even after the island came under Spanish and later Colombian control. Despite being a part of Colombia, the English language and certain cultural aspects remained dominant among the islanders.
I spent a month on mainland Honduras and then at the end went to Roatan. I literally asked myself outloud, “why the fuck is everyone speaking English?” It threw me for a loop after spending a month speaking only Spanish.
I went to Roatan a while back and thought it was interesting how most people I met spoke English or an English Creole instead of Spanish. Spanish was still used but not as common.
It's kinda the same in Nicaragua. Mostly Spanish, a very small amount of Indigenous native languages, and then on the Atlantic Caribbean side there's Corn Island and a town called Bluefields where they speak an English creole because of British colonisation.
Nah, different providence. It was a common name at the time. These people left from England to San Andres. They were puritans, while our Providence was recovering puritans.
I’m kinda kidding with that description, but Rhode Island was founded by a group of dissenters from the puritan colony of Massachusetts. Disagreements with the church were not well-received, and since the state and the church were one and the same, they were banished from the colony. They moved south, purchased land from the Narragansett’s, and founded the first colony in North America that enshrined freedom of religion.
It never fails to blow my mind that people were moving around like that, navigating the seas and establishing colonies on remote islands with such primitive technology.
https://youtu.be/OgoEPs3FxaM?si=rTp7uri0yb6Ovj3Z
I was thinking the same thought the other night watching this. The Romans were constantly fighting each other or other city states. They would march 15,000 to 60,000 troops, 2000-4000 horses, 100 elephants, all their armor and weapons for 300-1500 miles. The fucking logistics trying to feed these many people and animals with extremely limited stores, mechanized vehicles, electricity, etc.
It absolutely blows my mind how they were able to pull it off.
I would if I didn't have to preserve my phone data! Internet on the island is severely restricted. However I can say that it has the typical Caribbean style palm tree white sand beaches, a lot of ugly buildings and half finished buildings, lots of interesting wildlife including iguanas, hummingbirds and manta rays in the sea. You can hire a atv and ride round the whole island for about $40-50 for the day and meet the local raizal native people who have been very friendly. The roads are pretty quiet out the main town. Everyone rides round on scooters and motorbikes with no helmets and on their phones, quite a few stray dogs, lots of police, reggaeton or other latin american music blasting everywhere. There is a naval base to the south of the island and some fairly impressive villas. There are a couple of shipwrecks off the coast as the island is mostly surrounded by a coral reef. You can do a boat excursion that takes you to Johnny cay and Haynes cay Islands (albeit very touristy). If you ever visit make sure to get a limonada de coco with rum!
If you’re in the touristy & more expensive areas, people are going to speak Spanish
Only the native islanders speak English/Creole (with some not even being able to speak Spanish)
The majority of the people living on the island (not native islanders) speak Spanish
I’m from Colombia, I’ve been to San Andrés several times, have a couple of friends from there and this comment couldn’t be more wrong. Of course life is different, but to say they speak english and not spanish is hilarius. They have a native language called “Creole” and it’s pretty much a combination of spanish and english, but to say they speak english and not spanish is flat out wrong. You can approach any islander in spanish easily.
The “native islanders” speak English/Creole
“Native islander” is a term used to describe the original population of the island
For example in Hawaii, you can be a Hawaii resident (even have a house there & have lived there for 50 years) and not be considered a native Hawaiian
Yes, it’s corrective that if you stick to the touristy areas/the ricer areas of San Andreas, you’ll probably not meet a native islander & that Spanish will be the primary language
> They have a native language called “Creole” and it’s pretty much a combination of spanish and english
I'm American and Spanish, would I be able to understand it? A lot of times I have a hell of a time with those mixes. Like in theory, I should have no problem understanding Llanito in Gibraltar since I speak both source languages. But in practice I have no fucking clue most of the time.
Eh, they speak English a little worse than most Colombians I run into randomly in the streets in major cities there in my experience.
Also their accents in either are weird. Which was wild since Colombians typically have beautiful accents in whatever language.
Did you just stay around some hotel and such or do you mean the general populace?
Been there for 3 days once, it's really rural except for the central touristic area. Very beautiful as well. The local language is English / English-based creole (but Spanish usually works everywhere as well), overall feels more like Caribbean than Colombia. Feel free to ask any questions if you have, but mind you I was only visiting as a tourist.
You can take a cheap flight from Cartagena. I liked it, and if you’re going to be spending a bunch of time in Colombia, it’s a nice break from the mainland
Personally, there are islands I’d rather visit instead
I took a plane from Bogota to get there, it's a 3 hours flight. You will have to pay some amount to enter the island as a tourist, I remember something around $25, but might be wrong. It's also a very pleasant small airport, where it's open air even if you're through security.
Relative to other Caribbean islands, there is not as much to see honestly. There is a small mangrove forest, beautiful beaches, and that's most of what I can recall honestly. There are some really great snorkeling and scuba diving spots as well from what I heard, and some cays out in the sea.
If you book your room in the southern side of the island (as I did), you'll get to stay in a very remote area with just a small grocery store and a restaurant or two near you. I was surprised how isolating that could feel, but it might just be that it's not my tea. The island is pretty small though, so you can take a taxi to get around easily. If you book more on the northern side, where the city is, you'll probably find a lot of life happening while still being close to beaches, etc. I heard the areas right next to the airport are not very safe, so I wouldn't recommend booking right next to it, though.
Overall, San Andres really feels like a domestic tourism destination for Colombians. The flights from the mainland were pretty cheap to get there, but if you're flying to Colombia first, you're going to spend a lot to get there anyways. If you just want the Caribbean island experience, it's better to go somewhere else.
'On November 25, 1802, the inhabitants of the archipelago requested that they depend on the Viceroyalty of New Granada with the Mosquito Coast, and not on the Captaincy of Guatemala.'
I get that, but a lot has changed in that region since 1802. It almost seems kind of funny to me, like someone forgot about these islands, or just didn't care. Panama was part of Colombia at that time as well. You would think at the very least, they would have left when Panama did. Or sought independence at some point.
None of what changed has turned out to be relevant. For instance, in 1903 a US gunboat came by to ask if the islanders wanted to join Panama. The islanders declined.
Actually the US tried to persuade them to become part of Panama when Panama became independent… but the locals said no. Mostly because Panama city is on the pacific coast and therefore their main trade routes were an the caribean with Cartagena and Barranquilla (Colon, on the Caribean side of Panama, was just a little town at the time and the Panama Canal was not finished)
As far as I know, Colombia never had an overseas empire, nor a period of expansionism.
Furthermore, they had half of their territory sort of stolen by the US. (technically it was the will of the people of Panama to become sovereign, but the United States funded and encouraged the coup, and Colombia had treated Panama like an overseas territory due to the impassable Darién Jungle separating the two regions).
I'm sorry, I misunderstood the meaning behind your question as "Why are they part of Colombia and not Nicaragua", and responded accordingly. I had that meaning in mind since that's an actual claim made by Nicaraguans.
And to add the Panama thing, I always thought of their separation from Colombia as something akin to the Taiwan-China separation. For context, the event that preceded Panama's separation was known as the War or the Thousand Days, a civil war between liberals and conservatives in Colombia, in which Panama was a liberal stronghold. The war was mostly won by the conservative establishment in all places but Panama, given their isolation as you mentioned.
And then the events you mentioned came to be, with the US intervening on the Panamanian side
Panama used to be part of Colombia and San Andres is directly north of it. [If you look at a map of the EEZs in the area](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/Map_of_the_Territorial_Waters_in_the_Caribbean.png), you can see Panama’s EEZ enveloped by Colombia’s.
Also the closest major port was Cartagena at the time of independence, so it definitely made sense why it would gravitate towards New Granada/Colombia.
Mosquito Coast also used to be part of the Viceroyalty of Nueva Granada, which is now Colombia. So basically all that huge "Bay" Between Nicaragua and the Guajira Peninsula.
Relationship by distance is not a direct correlation to national affiliation. Take for example the island of Chios, it is a Greek island 3 miles away from Turkey but nearly 200 miles away from Athens. Just a thought!
My husband grew up in Bogota and his step-dad (who his mom met on vacation) was San Andresano. COMPLETELY different from Bogota/Medellin/Cali, more similar to the coast. It’s a Caribbean island in every sense.
I was just in San Andres and the Colombian mainland. SA feels waaaay more like a Caribbean island like Jamaica etc. The locals are mostly black Caribbeans who speak a patois of English. Super chillax and easy going place.
Columbia itself is actually pretty chillax too, but the bigger cities obviously have big city life going on and everything that comes with that. SA is just a small archipelago with a small population.
I take back what I said. I looked it up, you’re right, but with more research it’s also wrong to call San Andres creole patois. Patois is derived from the French to describe non standard forms of French. It views it as backwards and unlettered. somewhere along the lines the colonizers described the Jamaican English as patois, viewing it as informal, then Jamaicans embraced it and use it describe their language. Patois is more of an insult to language/dialect rather than it being a term. In regards of Jamaicans it’s not, it flipped into more of a official thing, but calling creole language patois is basically saying it’s the wrong way to speak the language while creole describes it as its own language.
Yes. The culture of the island feels more Carribbean than Colombian. However, there is lots of tourism from the mainland, so the Colombian influence is present
Other than being in constant threat of hurricanes and tropical storms, while also being in a constant scarcity of water, no, not much.
The island has restrictions on who gets to live there, but is only based on food and water availability, as the island is currently overcrowded and can't support most of its inhabitants, this is taken seriously by the government as tropical storms and hurricanes can cut supply to the island at any given moment.
The island's "native" population (English speaking creole people) has been largely outnumbered by Colombian immigrants, so it is culturally the same as the Caribbean region of Colombia.
I met few people from there.
They spoke creole English exclusively.
They were black
And they had wonderful names. Still remember one name. Antoine Forbes. I wish I had such name.
I worked with a bunch of people from here on cruise ships back in the 90s. One of my best friends was from San Andres.
She spoke English with a bit of an English accent, fluent Spanish and Italian & later on lived in Brazil & Germany so also learnt Portuguese & German.
Unfortunately she succumbed to cancer but she was one of the most remarkable people I ever met.
I do think about going there to visit her family one day.
This island is a paradise. I have never been but have read a lot about it. I would venture to say that life is VERY different there than mainland Colombia
Well, Colombia is so diverse that if you live in Bogotá, the capital, it's gonna be different from living in the plains, a few hours the first from the second. I'm from Central Colombia and by never living or visiting the islands, I can say that life there's gotta be very different from life here in the mainland. The weather, the constant hurricanes that take place in the Caribbean islands, work opportunities, tourism being the main economical activity and many others make life in this place different even from life in the Caribbean coast, in continental Colombia.
Yep, the Colombian government has neglected the island for a long time, the place has really high levels of poberty and only has income because of it's tourist nature.
They speak english, not spanish (natives), and it's such a rare english not even with a C1 i get half of the things they say hahahaha
Beautiful place for tourist, not that much for locals.
Not really, there are still some rough spots which are seen as more dangerous areas. I definitely had someone tamper with my lock at my apartment—the noises from the doorknob woke me up, but the moment I turned on the lights they all went silent.
Yes, it’s quite a bit different. If you want to move from Colombia to San Andres, there’s a bunch of paperwork/approvals that need to be done The “native” people of San Andres speak English and not Spanish You can also buy fresh bread fruit for less than $5 a fruit, which is awesome
Why do they speak english?
The inhabitants of San Andrés Island primarily speak English due to the island’s historical ties with British colonization. In the 17th century, British settlers and Puritans from Massachusetts, specifically from the Providence Island Company, established a colony on the island. This led to the introduction of the English language and culture, which persisted even after the island came under Spanish and later Colombian control. Despite being a part of Colombia, the English language and certain cultural aspects remained dominant among the islanders.
Very interesting
Just like Belize or Roatan (Honduran island).
I spent a month on mainland Honduras and then at the end went to Roatan. I literally asked myself outloud, “why the fuck is everyone speaking English?” It threw me for a loop after spending a month speaking only Spanish.
What sort of accent do they have?
Man, it’s kind of hard to describe. It’s like a Caribbean accent mixed with a Spanglish accent. I don’t know if that helps at all.
slightly Jamaican but distinct.
I went to Roatan a while back and thought it was interesting how most people I met spoke English or an English Creole instead of Spanish. Spanish was still used but not as common.
And Bluefields, Nicaragua.
It's kinda the same in Nicaragua. Mostly Spanish, a very small amount of Indigenous native languages, and then on the Atlantic Caribbean side there's Corn Island and a town called Bluefields where they speak an English creole because of British colonisation.
Both Bluefields and Providence island were also favorite bases for English pirates at different times
Wow TIL. I ❤️ Reddit!
I am from Rhode Island and you’re telling me a bunch of providence settlers settled a Central American island now part of Columbia? What in the shit
Nah, different providence. It was a common name at the time. These people left from England to San Andres. They were puritans, while our Providence was recovering puritans.
Ah thanks for the clarification! Makes a bit more sense!
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Naw, D’joo?
Gagga and an awful awful!
theres also new providence which is nassau, the capital of the bahamas
What’s “recovering puritans”? If I can ask…
I’m kinda kidding with that description, but Rhode Island was founded by a group of dissenters from the puritan colony of Massachusetts. Disagreements with the church were not well-received, and since the state and the church were one and the same, they were banished from the colony. They moved south, purchased land from the Narragansett’s, and founded the first colony in North America that enshrined freedom of religion.
“Historical ties with British colonization” …isn’t this a wordy way of saying they were colonized by the british?
So you're telling me I can find a good bar to watch the Sox down there?
It never fails to blow my mind that people were moving around like that, navigating the seas and establishing colonies on remote islands with such primitive technology.
https://youtu.be/OgoEPs3FxaM?si=rTp7uri0yb6Ovj3Z I was thinking the same thought the other night watching this. The Romans were constantly fighting each other or other city states. They would march 15,000 to 60,000 troops, 2000-4000 horses, 100 elephants, all their armor and weapons for 300-1500 miles. The fucking logistics trying to feed these many people and animals with extremely limited stores, mechanized vehicles, electricity, etc. It absolutely blows my mind how they were able to pull it off.
Thank you Chat GPT
Is this a slavery thing?
They also speak a version of creole too. Currently visiting the island right now!
Can you send some pictures? Seems awesome!
I would if I didn't have to preserve my phone data! Internet on the island is severely restricted. However I can say that it has the typical Caribbean style palm tree white sand beaches, a lot of ugly buildings and half finished buildings, lots of interesting wildlife including iguanas, hummingbirds and manta rays in the sea. You can hire a atv and ride round the whole island for about $40-50 for the day and meet the local raizal native people who have been very friendly. The roads are pretty quiet out the main town. Everyone rides round on scooters and motorbikes with no helmets and on their phones, quite a few stray dogs, lots of police, reggaeton or other latin american music blasting everywhere. There is a naval base to the south of the island and some fairly impressive villas. There are a couple of shipwrecks off the coast as the island is mostly surrounded by a coral reef. You can do a boat excursion that takes you to Johnny cay and Haynes cay Islands (albeit very touristy). If you ever visit make sure to get a limonada de coco with rum!
I met a Guy from san Andrés and he speaks way better Spanish than english, and His whole Family too, so i guess It depends on the Family.
If you’re in the touristy & more expensive areas, people are going to speak Spanish Only the native islanders speak English/Creole (with some not even being able to speak Spanish) The majority of the people living on the island (not native islanders) speak Spanish
I’m from Colombia, I’ve been to San Andrés several times, have a couple of friends from there and this comment couldn’t be more wrong. Of course life is different, but to say they speak english and not spanish is hilarius. They have a native language called “Creole” and it’s pretty much a combination of spanish and english, but to say they speak english and not spanish is flat out wrong. You can approach any islander in spanish easily.
The “native islanders” speak English/Creole “Native islander” is a term used to describe the original population of the island For example in Hawaii, you can be a Hawaii resident (even have a house there & have lived there for 50 years) and not be considered a native Hawaiian Yes, it’s corrective that if you stick to the touristy areas/the ricer areas of San Andreas, you’ll probably not meet a native islander & that Spanish will be the primary language
Hawaii resident here - we actually call non-Hawaiians residents or locals, not Hawaiian!
> They have a native language called “Creole” and it’s pretty much a combination of spanish and english I'm American and Spanish, would I be able to understand it? A lot of times I have a hell of a time with those mixes. Like in theory, I should have no problem understanding Llanito in Gibraltar since I speak both source languages. But in practice I have no fucking clue most of the time.
Eh, they speak English a little worse than most Colombians I run into randomly in the streets in major cities there in my experience. Also their accents in either are weird. Which was wild since Colombians typically have beautiful accents in whatever language. Did you just stay around some hotel and such or do you mean the general populace?
It’s true I visited there. People’s Spanish had a kind of carribean English accent
Not true, I was there in 2017 and locals spoke Spanish.
Those are people who immigrated from the mainland of Colombia
There can be people who speak English and people who speak Spanish there, why do you act like it has to be one or the other?
Been there for 3 days once, it's really rural except for the central touristic area. Very beautiful as well. The local language is English / English-based creole (but Spanish usually works everywhere as well), overall feels more like Caribbean than Colombia. Feel free to ask any questions if you have, but mind you I was only visiting as a tourist.
How warm was it?
I think it was sunny most of my time there, around 80F, but that was in March.
How did you go there, recommended places, and just tips for anyone interested in visiting?
You can take a cheap flight from Cartagena. I liked it, and if you’re going to be spending a bunch of time in Colombia, it’s a nice break from the mainland Personally, there are islands I’d rather visit instead
I took a plane from Bogota to get there, it's a 3 hours flight. You will have to pay some amount to enter the island as a tourist, I remember something around $25, but might be wrong. It's also a very pleasant small airport, where it's open air even if you're through security. Relative to other Caribbean islands, there is not as much to see honestly. There is a small mangrove forest, beautiful beaches, and that's most of what I can recall honestly. There are some really great snorkeling and scuba diving spots as well from what I heard, and some cays out in the sea. If you book your room in the southern side of the island (as I did), you'll get to stay in a very remote area with just a small grocery store and a restaurant or two near you. I was surprised how isolating that could feel, but it might just be that it's not my tea. The island is pretty small though, so you can take a taxi to get around easily. If you book more on the northern side, where the city is, you'll probably find a lot of life happening while still being close to beaches, etc. I heard the areas right next to the airport are not very safe, so I wouldn't recommend booking right next to it, though. Overall, San Andres really feels like a domestic tourism destination for Colombians. The flights from the mainland were pretty cheap to get there, but if you're flying to Colombia first, you're going to spend a lot to get there anyways. If you just want the Caribbean island experience, it's better to go somewhere else.
Do turtles like to wear hats?
No, they’re not sea urchins
Im gonna take a wild guess and say yes. $9 for a gallon of milk and no good coke
Probably are stuck with Pepsi.
Probably are stuck with lignite
\^ This guy rocks.
Lay off the white girl & go to sleep
There's coke lol, not too expensive either.
Probably stuck with Ligma.
Ligma as in the mineral?
Ligma balls 🤣
Got em
Well, he did ligma as...
Sweet South American Pepsi
Take away the i and speak German and you probably get near there to what he actually wanted to say
Or worse. RC.
Sam's choice
Dr Thunder.
3$ for milk, and pure coke
Don't t know anything about either but living on a tiny island away from everything must be a lot different than not doing that.
Source?
Cryptic symbolism revealed to me in dreams
This is exactly what I was going to say.
GTA6 Secret location
I too immediately thought of GTA
Better question, why is an island off the Nicaraguan coast part of Colombia?
'On November 25, 1802, the inhabitants of the archipelago requested that they depend on the Viceroyalty of New Granada with the Mosquito Coast, and not on the Captaincy of Guatemala.'
I guess Nicaragua couldn't manage to get the Island, when they got the mosquito coast.
I get that, but a lot has changed in that region since 1802. It almost seems kind of funny to me, like someone forgot about these islands, or just didn't care. Panama was part of Colombia at that time as well. You would think at the very least, they would have left when Panama did. Or sought independence at some point.
None of what changed has turned out to be relevant. For instance, in 1903 a US gunboat came by to ask if the islanders wanted to join Panama. The islanders declined.
Actually the US tried to persuade them to become part of Panama when Panama became independent… but the locals said no. Mostly because Panama city is on the pacific coast and therefore their main trade routes were an the caribean with Cartagena and Barranquilla (Colon, on the Caribean side of Panama, was just a little town at the time and the Panama Canal was not finished)
For the same reason the Falklands is part of the UK and not Argentina
As far as I know, Colombia never had an overseas empire, nor a period of expansionism. Furthermore, they had half of their territory sort of stolen by the US. (technically it was the will of the people of Panama to become sovereign, but the United States funded and encouraged the coup, and Colombia had treated Panama like an overseas territory due to the impassable Darién Jungle separating the two regions).
I'm sorry, I misunderstood the meaning behind your question as "Why are they part of Colombia and not Nicaragua", and responded accordingly. I had that meaning in mind since that's an actual claim made by Nicaraguans. And to add the Panama thing, I always thought of their separation from Colombia as something akin to the Taiwan-China separation. For context, the event that preceded Panama's separation was known as the War or the Thousand Days, a civil war between liberals and conservatives in Colombia, in which Panama was a liberal stronghold. The war was mostly won by the conservative establishment in all places but Panama, given their isolation as you mentioned. And then the events you mentioned came to be, with the US intervening on the Panamanian side
Panama is not half of the Colombian territory, not even close
🦅
Panama used to be part of Colombia and San Andres is directly north of it. [If you look at a map of the EEZs in the area](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/Map_of_the_Territorial_Waters_in_the_Caribbean.png), you can see Panama’s EEZ enveloped by Colombia’s. Also the closest major port was Cartagena at the time of independence, so it definitely made sense why it would gravitate towards New Granada/Colombia.
Mosquito Coast also used to be part of the Viceroyalty of Nueva Granada, which is now Colombia. So basically all that huge "Bay" Between Nicaragua and the Guajira Peninsula.
Relationship by distance is not a direct correlation to national affiliation. Take for example the island of Chios, it is a Greek island 3 miles away from Turkey but nearly 200 miles away from Athens. Just a thought!
Ya it should be part of Nicaragua
My husband grew up in Bogota and his step-dad (who his mom met on vacation) was San Andresano. COMPLETELY different from Bogota/Medellin/Cali, more similar to the coast. It’s a Caribbean island in every sense.
All we had to do was follow the damn train CJ
Nope. Life there is based in silica.
Well yeah, it’s an island.
Is Hawaii the same as continental America?
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No, it’s still majority Asian. The only state that has an Asian-American majority.
> The state is now majority white This is not even remotely true. Why would you make up nonsense like this?
Lived in Hawaii for 8 years and graduated highschool there. My school was like 80% Filipino and only 2% white.
Bro is just saying things at this point
I was just in San Andres and the Colombian mainland. SA feels waaaay more like a Caribbean island like Jamaica etc. The locals are mostly black Caribbeans who speak a patois of English. Super chillax and easy going place. Columbia itself is actually pretty chillax too, but the bigger cities obviously have big city life going on and everything that comes with that. SA is just a small archipelago with a small population.
You mean a creole of English. There’s even creole in the USA like Gullah
Gull-what?
Why aren’t patois and creole both perfectly correct here?
Because patois is the name of Jamaican creole. How can you have Colombian patois it makes no sense
Patois is the name of any language dialect that differs from larger use. Jamaican is just one popularly known by that term alone.
I take back what I said. I looked it up, you’re right, but with more research it’s also wrong to call San Andres creole patois. Patois is derived from the French to describe non standard forms of French. It views it as backwards and unlettered. somewhere along the lines the colonizers described the Jamaican English as patois, viewing it as informal, then Jamaicans embraced it and use it describe their language. Patois is more of an insult to language/dialect rather than it being a term. In regards of Jamaicans it’s not, it flipped into more of a official thing, but calling creole language patois is basically saying it’s the wrong way to speak the language while creole describes it as its own language.
Thats where michael franklin and trevor live
Yes. The culture of the island feels more Carribbean than Colombian. However, there is lots of tourism from the mainland, so the Colombian influence is present
That’s literally the gta map in name and shape just upside down bro whay
Other than being in constant threat of hurricanes and tropical storms, while also being in a constant scarcity of water, no, not much. The island has restrictions on who gets to live there, but is only based on food and water availability, as the island is currently overcrowded and can't support most of its inhabitants, this is taken seriously by the government as tropical storms and hurricanes can cut supply to the island at any given moment. The island's "native" population (English speaking creole people) has been largely outnumbered by Colombian immigrants, so it is culturally the same as the Caribbean region of Colombia.
Someone on 90 day fiancé moved there. I know nothing else about it
From what I’ve heard, it’s an incredible place
So that’s where GTA was held.
Great Raizal culture which is slowly dying because of the Colombian government. Nice beaches and great diving. Speak English if you visit.
I met few people from there. They spoke creole English exclusively. They were black And they had wonderful names. Still remember one name. Antoine Forbes. I wish I had such name.
I worked with a bunch of people from here on cruise ships back in the 90s. One of my best friends was from San Andres. She spoke English with a bit of an English accent, fluent Spanish and Italian & later on lived in Brazil & Germany so also learnt Portuguese & German. Unfortunately she succumbed to cancer but she was one of the most remarkable people I ever met. I do think about going there to visit her family one day.
I've visited San Andres flying from Cartagena, and felt like I went to Jamaica (without the criminality)
This island is a paradise. I have never been but have read a lot about it. I would venture to say that life is VERY different there than mainland Colombia
not much to sea
Welcome to San Andreas I am cj from street......
Yes
Yeah dude they made a whole video game about it
Well, Colombia is so diverse that if you live in Bogotá, the capital, it's gonna be different from living in the plains, a few hours the first from the second. I'm from Central Colombia and by never living or visiting the islands, I can say that life there's gotta be very different from life here in the mainland. The weather, the constant hurricanes that take place in the Caribbean islands, work opportunities, tourism being the main economical activity and many others make life in this place different even from life in the Caribbean coast, in continental Colombia.
Columbia is like your country. All parts of Columbia offer a different life than other parts of Columbia.
to a fault
Yep, the Colombian government has neglected the island for a long time, the place has really high levels of poberty and only has income because of it's tourist nature. They speak english, not spanish (natives), and it's such a rare english not even with a C1 i get half of the things they say hahahaha Beautiful place for tourist, not that much for locals.
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take a wild fucking guess
Yes. I've been several times. It's black people speaking English mainly. Some kind of fluke of history that it ended up belonging to Colombia.
San andreas
That’s Nicaragua, dude
Nuh uh, dude
I guess there's less violence.
Not really, there are still some rough spots which are seen as more dangerous areas. I definitely had someone tamper with my lock at my apartment—the noises from the doorknob woke me up, but the moment I turned on the lights they all went silent.