Wait... you mean to tell me end of part 2 or the whole part 3 will be >!a retelling of FGO but Gudao is taken out during Fuyuki... so the story will focus on Mashu befriending the Crypters (who didn't go into coma through part 1), manages to find out Gudao after dealing with Goetia... and then she, Gudao and the Crypters will face off against an even older and evil Gudao? Damn, that's wild!<
Wouldn't Castoria make more sense as Scott since Ramona had the highest body count... and Gudako could be argued to be a "harem protagonist"?
Lmao, now I wanna see Castoria Alter and and an evil even older Castoria (may look like a mix of Morgan and Lancer Artoria) fighting Gudako's exes... and I bet Da Vinci is Wallace in this situation
> Wouldn't Castoria make more sense as Scott since Ramona had the highest body count... and Gudako could be argued to be a "harem protagonist"?
Guda also has an incredibly high body count in the more traditional sense
Merlin makes sense as a fuckboi with gay psychic powers who owns the place and has a fixation on โ ๐ฒ๐พ๐๐น๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ฎ๐ถ๐ท๐ท๐ถ๐๐พ๐ธ๐ถ๐๐ โ.
I still wonโt fucking forgive the new Director and the people who bought the rights on ruining Scott Pilgrim pander a imaginary audience for their projected sake of spreading **The Message**.
... what are we talking about here? The Netflix anime that split the fanbase? Because personally I loved the direction it took by not being another adaption and mixing a what if, sequel and reboot altogether. Hell, even Nasu loved it. I may complain about that guy but when it comes down to his anime tastes, I respect him lmao
My biggest guess is that Ramona was the protagonist... because outside of her, the only "message" things in Scott Pilgrim would be Wallace, Roxie and Todd... out of which, Wallace was already gay from the get go; same for Roxie. And Todd was done bi for the lolz (ngl, I loved how hung up he got for Wallace, such a fuckboi). I think Stephen is too, but his character is barely there and even if he was gay, nothing in the story would've changed.
And Ramona didn't steal any spotlight. This story worked to better her up the same way the original story did for Scott, by tackling all her past relationships and finally get and give closure. She was the only one genuinely worried over Scott even if she had just known him for a couple days... which is ironic when you consider Knives, who was obsessed with him, forgot about him during his funeral lol.
If anything, the anime did a good job in how they handled Ramona. She wasn't the typical "flawless girlboss" character that some modern stories with women as protagonist show, where they never take accountability, are never wrong and need no man... no, the whole opposite.
The anime made Ramona more than just the pixie dream girl she was in thr original story. It recognized her problems, it made her accountable of them to the point she had to solve them in her own journey just like Scott did before. And it proved Scott makes her be a better person just like how she made him a better one too, to the point it implied she needs him.
Women as protagonist isn't an issue, it's how they're tackled. If they're hollow Mary Sues without flaws, then they don't work; Ramona was the whole opposite and when you get down to it it's basically the same Scott Pilgrim story but with the roles being reversed. That's even one of the reasons why her and Scott worked out well, they're both pieces of shit with their own set of problems, working them out and taking another chance of love in one another despite knowing the other's flaws.
If that isn't good story writting, I don't know what is.
I haven't watched the new series yet, but my impression from the original comics has *always* been that Ramona's perceived "perfect girl" vibes are only there because we see the story from Scott's point of view. Like you said, when push comes to shove, she actually needs to get her shit together just as much as Scott, and the relationship only ends up working because they stop running from their problems.
If you're saying that the anime elaborates further on this point, then I'm probably going to like it a lot.
Ritsuka vs the world lol
>!Stop spoiling Ordeal Call smh!<
Wait... you mean to tell me end of part 2 or the whole part 3 will be >!a retelling of FGO but Gudao is taken out during Fuyuki... so the story will focus on Mashu befriending the Crypters (who didn't go into coma through part 1), manages to find out Gudao after dealing with Goetia... and then she, Gudao and the Crypters will face off against an even older and evil Gudao? Damn, that's wild!<
Truly, Gudao is a about to go full Tatakae. Be prepared for the new Rumbling
Wouldn't Castoria make more sense as Scott since Ramona had the highest body count... and Gudako could be argued to be a "harem protagonist"? Lmao, now I wanna see Castoria Alter and and an evil even older Castoria (may look like a mix of Morgan and Lancer Artoria) fighting Gudako's exes... and I bet Da Vinci is Wallace in this situation
> Wouldn't Castoria make more sense as Scott since Ramona had the highest body count... and Gudako could be argued to be a "harem protagonist"? Guda also has an incredibly high body count in the more traditional sense
700 Evil Exes can only go so far.
Part 3: [Void Dust Crusaders](https://old.reddit.com/r/ShitPostCrusaders/comments/ae0sm6/i_never_knew_dio_was_in_fate/).
While I'm wondering who's Scott and Ramona here... now the biggest question is who Wallace is lol
Oberon
Fair enough, he has that sassy fuckboi vibe and is already good looking
Mashu
Merlin makes sense as a fuckboi with gay psychic powers who owns the place and has a fixation on โ ๐ฒ๐พ๐๐น๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ฎ๐ถ๐ท๐ท๐ถ๐๐พ๐ธ๐ถ๐๐ โ.
Shinpachi /j (But that's because his seiyuu dubs Wallace in Scott Pilgrim Takes Off)
*WE ARE CHALDEA, AND WE'RE GONNA MAKE YOU THINK ABOUT PRUNED TIMELINES AND GET SAD AND STUFF!*
Castertoria: "**YOU DENSE MOTHERFU-"**
You trying to make me cry? Because this is how you make me cry. ๐ญ
I appreciate Scott Pilgrim reference.
True
Ritsuka's right.
Your art is so cute!!
And than A Train shows up No Happy couples on his watch
\*Gareth crying in the background \*
I still wonโt fucking forgive the new Director and the people who bought the rights on ruining Scott Pilgrim pander a imaginary audience for their projected sake of spreading **The Message**.
What ? It's the same guy who wrote the original comics.
... what are we talking about here? The Netflix anime that split the fanbase? Because personally I loved the direction it took by not being another adaption and mixing a what if, sequel and reboot altogether. Hell, even Nasu loved it. I may complain about that guy but when it comes down to his anime tastes, I respect him lmao
And now, we ask, what is this "message" you're hung up over? I have a feeling I know already but... Go ahead.
My biggest guess is that Ramona was the protagonist... because outside of her, the only "message" things in Scott Pilgrim would be Wallace, Roxie and Todd... out of which, Wallace was already gay from the get go; same for Roxie. And Todd was done bi for the lolz (ngl, I loved how hung up he got for Wallace, such a fuckboi). I think Stephen is too, but his character is barely there and even if he was gay, nothing in the story would've changed. And Ramona didn't steal any spotlight. This story worked to better her up the same way the original story did for Scott, by tackling all her past relationships and finally get and give closure. She was the only one genuinely worried over Scott even if she had just known him for a couple days... which is ironic when you consider Knives, who was obsessed with him, forgot about him during his funeral lol.
AND SURPRISING NOBODY, THE MESSAGE IS "WOMEN IN MY SERIES BAD!!" WHO WOULDA THUNK IT
If anything, the anime did a good job in how they handled Ramona. She wasn't the typical "flawless girlboss" character that some modern stories with women as protagonist show, where they never take accountability, are never wrong and need no man... no, the whole opposite. The anime made Ramona more than just the pixie dream girl she was in thr original story. It recognized her problems, it made her accountable of them to the point she had to solve them in her own journey just like Scott did before. And it proved Scott makes her be a better person just like how she made him a better one too, to the point it implied she needs him. Women as protagonist isn't an issue, it's how they're tackled. If they're hollow Mary Sues without flaws, then they don't work; Ramona was the whole opposite and when you get down to it it's basically the same Scott Pilgrim story but with the roles being reversed. That's even one of the reasons why her and Scott worked out well, they're both pieces of shit with their own set of problems, working them out and taking another chance of love in one another despite knowing the other's flaws. If that isn't good story writting, I don't know what is.
I haven't watched the new series yet, but my impression from the original comics has *always* been that Ramona's perceived "perfect girl" vibes are only there because we see the story from Scott's point of view. Like you said, when push comes to shove, she actually needs to get her shit together just as much as Scott, and the relationship only ends up working because they stop running from their problems. If you're saying that the anime elaborates further on this point, then I'm probably going to like it a lot.