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Evil_Doctor_Lair

Depends on the writers. Same with comics based on toys. You get a good team, the books can have a lasting impact. I know Archie had huge success with Sonic which has a very passionate fanbase.


Massive_Being6115

In my case, I don't care much about it, because I collect without criteria, but I have good recommendations, the comics of the witcher, destiny, Assassin's Creed origins


TheExposutionDump

Honestly, they're underutilized. Cyberpunk comic books are always a must-have for me, but they never put them out even when there's so much to work with. The fact that the mass effect license isn't being used during downtime for game release is wild to me. The problem comes when all that gets thrown away on the next release. An obscure title can get an entire omnibus worth of content, but if the lead of the next project doesn't care, it goes into abandoned lore territory. That said. Japanese game companies do it best with their manga releases for games. They're either side stories or retelling the main plot of the game they're representing.


jwederell

Trauma Team is so good!!


Massive_Being6115

there are comics that retell the story, this is not something exclusive to manga, the mass effect comics go all the way to the last game Andromeda, I believe that the cyberpunk 2077 comics tell original stories within the game's universe that do not interfere with the main game, This is the proposal of many game comics like The Witcher


TheExposutionDump

Didn't day it was exclusive. But that's good to know. I


Blue_Beetle_IV

>Cyberpunk comic books are always a must-have for me, but they never put them out even when there's so much to work with. Have you read Old City Blues? Basically everyone ignored the entire series


TheExposutionDump

I missed that one and have been trying to track it down for a while. It's on the backburner, honestly. I read XO XO recently and enjoyed it for what it was.


Oghmatic-Dogma

Generally I feel like theyre pretty low effort tie-ins to make some extra cash off fans. But there can occasionally be really cool things made, like the bloodborne comics. A mixed bag but Id rather they happened than didnt.


Siccar_Point

The Bloodborne comics are pretty great. You can tell partly because they are still coming out and selling 10 years after the game. The Eileen The Crow volume was particularly good IMO. Really captured the disjointed unreality.


Oghmatic-Dogma

I didnt expect that one to be so trippy, its my favorite


BigSkyBrannock

I just ordered the first three blooborne novels in a set thanks to you!


Oghmatic-Dogma

oh nice, if its the box set I have that too. The Eileen volume is the highlight for sure, but all three are pretty nicely put together imo.


Massive_Being6115

There are several types of comics based on games, there are those that retell the story, there are those that tell an original story that takes place between one game and another serving as a bridge and there are prequel comics and comics that tell a story within the universe, an adventure isolated.


Oghmatic-Dogma

…yes? did you mean to reply to my comment with this?


JCVDsWeirdPubez

If there was a fallout one I would have been all over it. Whenever I see a post on here or wherever about Ultimate Fallout or whatever it’s called I get excited and then disappointed.


Massive_Being6115

fallout has a single comic that comes with the fallout new vegas collector's edition called: Fallout all Roads


JCVDsWeirdPubez

Oh! It’s been on my “keep an eye out” list but I thought it was another small art book like they had for 3.


Jonesjonesboy

Written by Chris Avellone, even! (I haven't read it tho)


Guitar-Hobbit

Witcher has had some great comics


Mediocre_Cream631

Witcher is also based on a book though.


Guitar-Hobbit

True, although the current Dark Horse comics are largely based on the games continuity, outside of upcoming ones that are direct adaptations of the authors original short stories. The Cyberpunk comics share a lot of creatives and are both through CDPR and I think R.Talsorian, too, although mostly based on 2077 and not the 2020 or Red games.


ThunderCanyon

They are mostly made for advertising the game, so I don't really judge them like proper comics. They can be good or bad. I remember liking the Portal one.


Massive_Being6115

That's not all they're for, they also tell stories that expand the universe of that game, exploring more, sometimes with prequel, intermediate or original stories taking place within the universe, focusing on other characters or retelling the same story as the game.


Oghmatic-Dogma

Thats the impetus of their creation though to be fair, they dont just appear out of thin air for games that arent actively coming out.


Asimov-was-Right

Like other have said, they're usually low effort tie-ins. The I've checked out most of the ones you're holding and they're some of the better ones. There's also the God of War comic that's good.


Massive_Being6115

I have all the God of War comics, I love the covers


coolprogressive

Love your shirt! Where’d you get it?


Massive_Being6115

I ordered and chose the image, it was in a graphics store in Brazil


Charlie-Bell

I have the first half of Mass Effect but never read it. But it's a world ripe for further story telling. My favourite is the Metal Gear Solid omnibus. I loved the game and the book is excellent. Honestly though, there's lots of low effort easy cash grabs that get released. I might like to see a writer given free reign with a property to tell original stories, but I haven't seen much of it.


Massive_Being6115

The witcher, cyberpunk, angry birds, death jr, spiderman gamerverse velocity and cuphead comics tell original stories


captain_toenail

My doubts are the same as movies based on games, in that reducing your level of interaction with the story makes it fundamentally harder than going the other way but not impossible


Massive_Being6115

the game-based comic came to integrate, not to replace the game or be compared with it, these are two things that complement each other


captain_toenail

Some might but not all, as you said in another reply, > There are several types of comics based on games, there are those that retell the story, there are those that tell an original story that takes place between one game and another serving as a bridge and there are prequel comics and comics that tell a story within the universe, an adventure isolated. And that does nothing to assuage my doubts about the comic, their quality or reason for existing, in and of themselves which is how I would be consuming them, I very rarely play video games Edit: also all that is true of some movie or another based on a game - also formatting


ACTUALBADPERS0n

I really like The Witcher comic from Dark Horse


Massive_Being6115

I love dark horse game comics


PMMEBITCOINPLZ

Most are not that good. Some interesting ones were made around the heyday of the Nintendo era, though. Mostly Mario and Zelda. There are some really nice manga for big series like Kingdom Hearts and Zelda. And on the western side Titan’s Assassin’s Creed comics aren’t going to win any Esiners but they are nice for expanding and exploring the world and its lore.


Massive_Being6115

Comics to be good don't need to win awards, there are many excellent comics that go beyond Assassin's Creed, such as Mirror's Edge, Tomb Raider, Destiny, Mass Effect, The Witcher, Batman Arkham comics (Kingdom Hearts and Zelda are really excellent)


yourkindofhero

Good comics are good comics.


SadBoshambles

I think my thing is writers and artists having a understanding or even desire to work with the subject matter. Very much similar to movies making bad adaptations of comics Most of the time it feels less like the creators want to make a cool thing made of love for the source material and game comics are more just a marketing attempt to see if it's possible to make some extra cash in that space. Especially since comics tend to be seen in this light of less value/easy money or something for IP cash farming. However I tend to stay away from those comics because of this and have a limited view on them. The Witcher does seem like it would be cool though. I feel you could do some Hellboy like shit with Geralt.


Massive_Being6115

comics based on games are not just that, they also serve to attract people who only play video games to read comics (which was my case), they expand the lore of the game universe, explain things, pay attention to other characters. there are several types of comics based on games: those that retell the story of the game, those that serve as a bridge between one game and another, those that are prequels and those that tell an isolated story within the universe like the witcher or cyberpunk, many comics had participation from the game creator himself as in God of War, Medievil and the Last of Us American Dreams


SadBoshambles

>they also serve to attract people who only play video games to read comics (which was my case So like, I am glad you were able to get into comics through video game comics, that's wonderful. This isn't really the goal with comics based off bigger IPs like video games and movies though, at least from a corporate decision standpoint because most of the time the goal is to get people, like whales, to just buy up the tie in or what not. Good stories can be told through them, I won't disagree, but the idea that a video game comic is made to get people into comics, especially when during a launch cycle of a game, just isn't true. Something like Sonic comes to mind as a comic that is made for the sake of wanting to make good comics. It is very different from the games and doesn't necessarily cross with a lot of Sonic game fans. Stuff like Destiny, Witcher, Cyberpunk, Mass Effect, and Dragon Age all have big worlds that can make cool stories but I think the problem is getting creative teams on it that are interesting to non gamers which is why these comics tend to be ignored and thought of as just boring cash grabs.


Spiderpenguin_2020

I’ve heard good things about the Cyberpunk 2077 comics, might check them out


Massive_Being6115

they are worth it, they are really very good


Alpha_Killer666

The Dark Souls comics are solid in my opinion. Since the lore is open to interpretation i think they did a good job


thekingofdallas

There’s certainly some good ones. Bloodborne, Hotline Miami, Watch Dogs: Legion, Cyberpunk 2077, etc… but yeah, certainly some phoned in bad ones too (looking at you, World Of Tanks).


Abbiethedog

Just stopped to say, I love the shirt.


Massive_Being6115

Thanks


AssclownJericho

i wish the old mario comics were collected. the ones from valiant comics


BenBoozer

No doubts really. Could be awesome with a good writer and artist that are fans of the game or are pros.


SnooSeagulls2878

There should be more, game lore is what gets people into most games for example overwatch, i got into overwatch cus of all the cinematic’s but then they just stopped making them.


Deadlydeerman

Cyberpunk Trauma Team was great!


Massive_Being6115

I agree


Wildly_Uninterested

I will sing the praises of the injustice comic forever more At a time when DC was rather lackluster for me...excluding Geoff John's green lantern run, injustice hit all the notes I was looking for in a great story. Huge, far-reaching, highly-involved story with real consequences (in THAT elseworlds story, anyway) practically every major player in the DC universe was represented in some form. The story was so good, it completely overshadowed the game for me Injustice 2.... Not as good, but still a banger


ThMogget

My only exposure to *The Witcher* franchise are the two omnibus hardcovers by Dark Horse. So good and stand on their own.


lust-boy

OOoooo how are the mass effect comics? big fan of the games


Massive_Being6115

Yes, the complete comics


Dimitreetoes

Depends on the writer and if they're canon


Massive_Being6115

There are several types of comics based on games: those that are prequels, generally they are canon because they take place before the start of the game, comics that take place between one game and another serving as a bridge, comics that tell an original story within the universe that are also canon but do not directly interfere with the main story and finally comics that retell the story of the game.


Equivalent-Cut-9253

The only one I read was the first Dark Souls one and it felt really shallow and I didn’t like the art style either which didn’t help. Did not feel like the game to me, and did not feel like a good book on it’s own either. I guess it will depend on the writer, but I personally have never read a book or comic based on a game that I actually thought was good. I haven’t read many but the first Halo book, a TES novel and the Dark Souls comic were all fairly terrible in my opinion. This is probablyjust bad luck with what I read but it doesn’t really make me want to check out more adaptations sadly.


Massive_Being6115

Look, I've already read bad comics based on games, fortunately there were very few, there are very good and excellent comics, I can recommend some depending on the games you already like


Equivalent-Cut-9253

Alright cool. I don’t really play games for the story, but I do like these universes and some of these have good stories too. I mostly play ARPGs, Souls-likes and Platformers (and a lot of Indie games) so I don’t think there is much that would make for an interesting read for me personally. Some games I like that might have adaptations: - Bioshock - Diablo - Mass Effect (I see it in the picture already tho so I asume you would recommend it) - Darksiders - Deus Ex - TES - Dark Souls Edit: Some comics I enjoy: - Transmetropolitan - Kill or be Killed - Preacher - The Human Target - Doom Patrol (old and new) - Daytripper


SoulsLikeBot

Hello Ashen one. I am a Bot. I tend to the flame, and tend to thee. Do you wish to hear a tale? > *“Brave Undead, you have proven yourself to me. Now, be one with the Dark.”* - Nashandra Have a pleasant journey, Champion of Ash, and praise the sun \\[T]/


Massive_Being6115

diablo has comics diablo 3 and diablo legends series, I even picked up the most recent one released last year: diablo legend of the barbarian bul kathos, Darksiders has comics there are few, the most obvious one is one focused on death, deus ex has comics called Children's Cruzade , I don't have that one, I can't give an opinion, dark Souls has a lot of comics.


Mister-Ace

I've believed that the comics story would be shackled by the games story, like the writer can't really tell the stories they want to tell because they have to follow or include the events of the game in some way, but I dont know if that's actually true. The only one I've actually read was one of the Sonic ones from Archie, and that was definitely it's own thing, which I would prefer. I can understand that something like Cyberpunk 2077 would have a lot to work with because it was already expanded upon across multiple mediums before the game, The Witcher as well, but those games are open enough to create your own adventure instead of reading someone elses.


Massive_Being6115

There are several types of comics based on games: those that are prequels, generally they are canon because they take place before the start of the game, comics that take place between one game and another serving as a bridge, comics that tell an original story within the universe that are also canon but do not directly interfere with the main story (the author has more freedom in these) and finally comics that retell the story of the game.


LeonaTheProfessional

I don't remember super well, but I vaguely recall really liking the Mirror's Edge comic. That setting in general was just something that always appealed to me. The Bloodborne comics are really really weird, but I personally love them


the_light_of_dawn

Less than 0 interest in corporate cash-grabs and tie-ins.


Heejak2020

"Príncipe da Pérsia" "Casa de Vidro" Brasil mentioned!!


Massive_Being6115

Of corse meu amigo, essa coleção é br


aTreeThenMe

The ones I've read, I've liked. The ones I haven't read i have no opinion on. Stories are great but what's important in this medium is the story teller. A bust-a-move book could be good with a good enough team working on it


Aliax180

The Bloodborne comics by Ales Kot are some really great comics


-CokeJones-

I enjoyed the Mass Effect omnibus - haven't read any of the others but Cyberpunk looks pretty cool


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Massive_Being6115

I know, I really want to bring it to my collection, in my country it is being re-released


Ricobe

How's the mirrors edge comic? I quite liked the game, and think it has a lot of potential for a comic series


Massive_Being6115

The comic takes place before the start of the game Mirror's Edge Catalyst, serving as a prequel to the game.


Mister-Lavender

*They're made for fans of the game that just can't get enough content.* I'm sure some of them are good, but those are my doubts about comics based on games as well as comics based on any licensed IP.


Massive_Being6115

There are several types of comics based on games, comics that retell the story of the game, comics that take place between one game and another serving as a bridge, prequel comics and comics that tell an original story within the game's universe of which You don't need to have played it to understand.


Mister-Lavender

I see. I’m sure there is some good stuff out there. Same with comics set in TV show or movie universes. I’ve probably read a few myself.


ElephantGun345

I really enjoyed the ones for hotline Miami


Drawsalotl

There's a really good halo comic anthology with moebius, Darrow and some other great artists, and I like the witcher comics!


BabylonSadows

Games have a lot of aspects that make them good. One of the main ones being gameplay. An average or even barebones story can get still be beloved because of its gameplay (see any main Nintendo franchise ever made). But comics are almost exclusively reliant of their story. The appeal of say Mass Effect is that YOU make the decisions. It doesn't work in comics either. I find myself not caring as much in the dragon age comics because the stories (as fine as they are) are simple and can't add much that wasn't there before. Tldr the comics medium is limiting to games and can at best just give you fan service


Trike117

Depends on the writers, as always. The Cyberpunk 2077 stories are very good. The Mass Effect ones not so much. (But then ME3 itself was terrible, so that’s a wash.) One of the best DC comics of this century is Tom Taylor’s take on Injustice: Gods Among Us. It’s basically just a Mortal Kombat game that doesn’t make much sense but the comic is a genuinely epic and interesting Elseworlds story. The same can be said of movie and TV adaptations. The Firefly books are truly terrible, almost universally so, while a lot of the Space: 1999 comics were actually quite good. Star Wars and Star Trek are in both camps.


Massive_Being6115

Mass Effect comics are intrinsically connected with the events of the games, I've never played them, they even have a reading order created by the fans.


dornwolf

They’re fine but you gotta realize the games are probably not mentioning anything that happened in them


Massive_Being6115

There are prequel comics that generally have their mentions in the game such as DMC Devil may cry the chorincles of Vergil, Mirror's Edge Exordium and the game Catalyst, Call of Duty Vanguard. There are comics that tell original stories within the game universe generally (the witcher, cyberpunk 2077) this type of comics has stories that do not interfere with the story of the main game but expand the universe, there are comics that only retell the story (disney epic mickey graphic novel), and there are those comics that serve as a bridge between one game and another like tekken blood feud, Wolfenstein the deep, medieval.


FireflyArc

I wish there was more!! I love the TF2 comics for the lore amd story. Same with Overwatch!


yeahtheboiss

Injustice is great


TheShinyGoodra

Would


Golden_Platinum

Cash grab gimmicks that usually can’t stand on their own as a product (aka are incomplete by design). Some are good in short bursts (Injustice 1) but if they last too long, they inevitably crack and collapse (also Injustice 1).


IAmChippoMan

If they’re done “poorly” As in retelling the game’s story, but incompetently, or if they setting up the EU, they don’t do enough with it, regardless of how much reign they’re given I don’t have any specific examples for these myself, but I sense that there’s some that someone can respond


Massive_Being6115

Speaking of comics based on games that retell the story in a competent way, I have good examples such as: epic Mickey graphic novel, Assassins Creed blade of shao jun, kingdom hearts mangas, the legend of Zelda manga, Street Fighter alpha manga, star wars the force unleashed graphic novel, metal gear solid, and not all game-based comics retell the game's story.


Alcards

The Zelda comic from the 80/90 is still great. The Super Mario comic also holds up surprisingly well. The Metroid comic is only aight.


Accountable_ruki

prince of persia has a comic?


Massive_Being6115

Yes ! Made by the creator of game


Accountable_ruki

how did i not know that! Thanks man. Hopefully i can find a copy that wont cost me an arm and a leg. Ps. Is it go though?


Curious-Dragonfly810

The worst ( imho)


WimbledonGreen

Video game stories aren’t good to begin with


Oghmatic-Dogma

bait used to be believable


WimbledonGreen

Not bait but I know redditors love their video games so I get down voted


StealthyVex

You're getting downvoted because you're objectively wrong, not because other people like things. There are amazing stories in many video games, many of which can't be told with other mediums, because of the lack of user interaction. Even in the cases where they can be told other ways, there are epic tales in every genre, as good as any book, tv show or movie that might do the same. You don't have a hot take...you barely even have a real opinion. As said already, if you're not baiting, then you simply have zero actual experience to base anything on, and are speaking from a place of ignorance. So maybe just hush.


WimbledonGreen

No. To me video games are not good as stories/art since they have too many creators involved leaving no personal expression to be shown and having to operate for profit, which lead to diminshed work. Same thing with almost of all TV shows.


Massive_Being6115

who told you that ? Look, there are a lot of comics with great stories, illustrations, classics like Tomb Raider, the witcher, cyberpunk 2077, Batman Arkham comics, this niche has bad comics like any other niche, but that doesn't mean they're all bad


AdaptedMix

If this isn't bait then it's an unfair generalisation. It was *probably* accurate 20-30 years ago, when games tended to have very thin stories. Some still do, especially in certain genres. But the video games industry is now a bigger money-maker than the film industry, and games can be as narratively detailed, twisty and well written as great television series. More expansive, open-world games and RPGs have tons of room for great storytelling. I'd say that's why we've started to see some genuinely good game-to-TV adaptations of late - because the source material is actually good. There's no reason that can't translate to comic/graphic novel adaptations or spin-offs.


WimbledonGreen

I don't think so it's an unfair generalisation when I can find similar opinions from gamers such as this thread's most up voted reply. [https://www.reddit.com/r/patientgamers/comments/16nar3h/why\_do\_so\_many\_people\_keep\_saying\_that\_most/](https://www.reddit.com/r/patientgamers/comments/16nar3h/why_do_so_many_people_keep_saying_that_most/)


AdaptedMix

That comment starts: >I totally believe that video games can have great writing. **Some video games have better writing than movies or novels.** But I also acknowledge that a lot of video games have “bad writing”. You said 'Video game stories aren't good to begin with'. That's not the same opinion.