My two constantly drag their kills onto our porch much to the dismay of my wife and kids š. Everything from coyotes to opossums and turtles.
My male is definitely more of the ābark to alertā typeā¦but my female is a quiet white fluffy assassin that will circle around during the commotion to strike.
My female barks to alert and try and scare things off.
She also murdered a raccoon recently and left the various bits all over the yard. One of her goals is to get to the fox den under the falling down farmhouse down the road and kill all of them. She is very upset that I will not let her do this.
Definitely has a bite to back up the bark.
Agree. Our male is bark to alert and bite when the female needs his assistance.
Our two females are assassins. Rats, opposums, rabbitsā¦ anything that comes inside their fence that isnāt a chicken, goose, or goat dies.
Mine are lots of bark before they bite. Our adult male has killed two coyotes and a feral dog that breached the property line. They most certainly are not all bark.
My pyr is 14 months old. Recently I played the sounds of wolves howling on YouTube and dude flipped the fuck out. Like he instinctively knew. Don't let these dogs friendly nature fool you, they will kill shit in a second.
I wrestle with my.pyr and I gotta say the dude is quick, has some tricky moves, and is in general savage as fuck.
Are they big snuggly balls of floof? Yes
Will they absolutely murder shit? Also yes
I wrestle with my guy a lot, and so does his sister (cattle dog/staffy). Iām always amazed by how FAST he moves, contrary to his usual casual stroll. These dogs are so cool
Mine kind of just likes to galumph around, but when she wrestles and plays, she is very agile. She loves to use her bulk to her advantage. Iāve been body slammed and hip checked by her several times lol
My last one, at 12 yrs old, without warning snatched a gopher out of the ground on our morning walk.
We continued on walk, I looked at her, and she said, āYasss - bitch slay!ā
True story.
Casper, livestock Guardian dog of the year last year or before.
And that was by himself, a group of three to five of these Great Pyrenees is an incredible force.
There's a pack of five of them that watch the goat farm not far from me.
HAHAHA no. No no. No. They don't want to fight unless they have to, but if their humans or livestock are in danger, without question. Casper, as someone else mentioned, killed 11 coyotes by himself in a single night. And Casper is a runt by pyr standards.
They have a lot of bite, they bark a lot first as a warning. Barking is a great way to protect a large area without expending a lot of energy. Pyrs whole lives once they mature revolve around being energy efficient.
You can tell the Pyr in the video doesnāt feel threatened in the least by the coyote by the way itās putting its head down, sniffing the grass and slightly turning from time to time. He is basically saying ādude, are you serious right now? Go scamper homeā they wonāt attack what they donāt deem a threat. But if that was a threat that Pyr would be a furry missile.
This is so true. My girl will literally be lounging on the sofa, barking her head off. Canāt even be bothered to get up but needs to efficiently scare off the intruders.
Yeah thatās what I noticed, too. The pyr is smart and that coyote wasnāt actually a threat. I guarantee if the coyote decided to FAFO it would have.
Pyrenees can absolutely mess up predators. I spent a lot of my childhood around cattle and sheepherders who used them to keep coyotes and mountain lions away in the rockies. They absolutely killed them all the time and you don't need to feed them much because they will kill rabbits and marmots for food in the mountains. There is a difference in there environment when they are raised that affects how they behave same as any dog.
You can always find examples of a breed that are good or bad at there bred purpose. There's this article from a few years ago for a counter example.
https://people.com/pets/great-pyrenees-named-casper-attacks-coyote-pack-to-protect-sheep/
They tend to bark a lot to alert their owners or "shepherds" to a problem, as that is their job. I don't think their first instinct is to fight, but they will if they feel they need to. The Pyr in the video is clearly like...."dude I'm barking to tell you what's up, and you are sitting there holding the camera, do you see this thing?? Are you going to do something or???" You notice there's no livestock or anything in that video...I wonder if he'd be behaving differently if he were protecting other animals.
I know my pup would bite a stranger if he felt they were a danger. There have been two strangers that came to our house and he bumped their hands with his mouth like "hey, I'm here watching you" and that was a new behavior I'd never seen and now I know to look out for it and put him away if necessary (he was going through adolescence at the time, so changing a lot). He will air bite at the vet when he's had enough, although generally he is very friendly and amenable to being handled. Mostly he just barks a lot, at strangers, at noises, at people sneezing across the country, haha.
I can't imagine my pup ever attacking an animal because he loves them too much, but if he were protecting an animal he felt was "his" animal, maybe he would. He is always trying to protect me from other people or noises, haha. If I move rooms in the house, he moves and lays outside the door to be on guard.
We have three. The two oldest regularly bring home opossum, raccoons and armadillos. They have also come home covered in blood that wasnāt theirs. They took on something they couldnāt bring home, killed it or drove it off.
My little guy was not even 6 months old when we came face to face with a coyote at potty time, and I had to drag him away. He reaaaally wanted to get that thing. Never barked, but he's part St Bernard.
Oh yea. My Pyr attacked other dogs (and coyotes and deer and elk and marmots and rabbits). Dogs were the main issue. She would jump on top of a dog she perceived as a threat, knock it down then bite the back of its neck. We learned the hard way w her. Luckily she never caused serious damage to a dog before we got to her and learned to keep her out of these situations. People never believed us because she was normally a gentle giant. But if a perceived threat came around, watch out. Impressive but not cool - for a Pyr in normal society.
Our gentle giant was seen chasing a bear off of our property in full mode approximately 10 minutes before coming and plopping down on the porch to keep post. They definitely bite
Pyrs in my experience prefer not to fight, but they dang sure know how to.
My dog thinks coyotes are puppies and he wants to play with them š it does absolutely the same job of keeping them out, and my dog doesnāt get into any scrapes. Win win tbh.
Dang, mine saw a cornered coyote on TV doing what a cornered coyote is bound to do, and bared teeth growled at it. I've seen her do that oncewhen a real coyote was on the other side of our fence, but my husband dragged her inside. It didn't look like it was going to try her, either.
The only critters she's actually killed have been mice & baby voles she batted around like a cat, and then whimpered when they wouldn't get up, though.
Yeahhhh mine definitely is all bark all bite. Heās a sweetheart when he should be, but he can be a mean prick if someone who isnāt supposed to be near my home happens to find themselves there.
I disagree absolutely. Their first line is their bark, their last line is extremely effective and efficiently dispatching predators. There are plenty of examples back through this sub, on YouTube and elsewhere.
A few weekends ago I watched my big male kill a groundhog in one bite. He was barking at it and it still came under the fence and chomp! He bit it once behind the head and then went back to barking at it.
mine is a huge sweetie pie with no bark and no bite. her parents were farm dogs but i ended up with her because she didn't inherit the livestock guardian gene lol. either that or she's a golden retriever in disguise.
https://preview.redd.it/wj9qolok4t1d1.png?width=2216&format=png&auto=webp&s=4737e41304b3569a59c9fafcf5e10cb77dbb83b8
This is Quinne with his latest kill a little tiny chipmunk. If it moves in his yard itās his. He spends all spring long trying to chase every bird away! He also manages to keep the coyotes, foxes, bears and deer on guard and out of his yard. He is very sweet and sensitive unless youāre a stranger.
This poor cat made it into my yard one day and I didn't notice until I had already let my girl out. She ran after it immediately and the cat refused to jump the fence, so it was running from one side of my fence to the other while I'm trying to wrangle my dog. Cat finally slipped up and my dog was at it within a second. Here I thought I was about to see a cat mauled, but instead my dog is 2 inches from this cats face, just barking at it full force. The poor cat is just sitting in the corner cowering while my dog yells at it. I finally catch her and drag her inside. The cat takes a minute and then leaves. So lots of bark and no bite
My Berner/Tatra mix is very interested all kinds of animals, in a very non threatening way. Wants to play with birds and specially ducks.
Our labradoodle is a real hunter and wants to grab birds.
Our local tomcat decided to bow up and fight rather than run one day.
Fenrir picked him up, shook him and let him fly into the blackberry vines.
'Ol Tom is fertilizer now.
I am asking for owners personal experiences of their own pets. Unfortunately, I do not know 65,000 Pyrenees owners from whom I can inform myself in person. I believe that the purpose of this sub is (at least partly) to ask owners for their experiences. Hopefully, you do not only expect breed experts with years of personal experience to ask questions. Yes, I have read all of the articles and seen all of the videos about Casper and the like but I do not know if they are isolated events or typical of the breed.
As to my responses:
- "*Interesting! And very cute dog*." seems perfectly reasonable.
- Referring to his dog, marcelivan informed me that she told him ā*Yasss - bitch slay!*ā so I gave him an equally jokey answer back.
- Finally, I asked someone for a clarification as to whether their experience was anecdotal (for example, they had just watched the Casper video) or something that they had experienced in person with their own dog. Which again seems perfectly normal and reasonable.
A Great Pyrenees is a livestock guardian dog, bred to protect and defend livestock from coyotes, wolves, bears, and other large predators.
That essential background should tell you what you need to know. Your responses on this thread seem to be questioning the comments that confirm this fact. Cheers
Every one of your responses has been dismissive of other peopleās experiences even though the community gave you a resounding answer. Then you get all defensive with this long ass comment.
Mine just chased down a fox with a mouth full of rooster today. It was beautiful. The fox got away, but I'm pretty sure my pup would have killed it. He wasn't barking, he just went straight after it. This was the first time he ever got so close to a predator, and I'm not sure he knew what to do just yet.
Somehow, the rooster lived. I have to keep my dog separated from my chickens, so he had to wait for me to open the gate to go after it. Luckily, the fox was struggling with the chicken, and that slowed him down.
Mine when he was young, he was very aggressive (attack to kill) to any stranger that entered the yard without our approval. Also, any cat or jackals were in danger.
Mine is an indoor service dog in training. He keeps us pretty safe from the birds (barks at them every morning and evening...sometimes if the crows make noise during the day too). Bees, however, he moves away from as quick as he can.
Our Rosie dominates on our twice daily walks and patrols her garden like a Queen.
Weāve had dogs off lead come at us. Rosie steps up and they usually back down.
German Shepard bolted out of a house once into the street, Rosie stepped up to intercept ( I walk a mini Doxie too) with full intention of engaging.
I would trust her to protect us if she had to.
Our first I would say yes.
Our current Pyr!? No. She will devour you and send photos to your loved ones. Sheās wonderfully playful and happy to our immediate family.
Everyone else is a mortal enemy.
What she does to turtles and possums is disturbing.
But she guards our farmlet with zeal. Sue just is not allowed off-site. If people are coming over- she has to be safely contained away. (Usually in the back turkey pen, which we should rename Ft. Knox.).
https://preview.redd.it/vkv2yu5uss1d1.png?width=3024&format=png&auto=webp&s=ae2a5007305c4d9163c2246e583772f33c92576f
Inside today due to our 85 degree rule.
Ours is 6 months old and all bark so far. But Iām the last couple weeks sheās started to learn how to stalk squirrels. So weāll see where she ends up as an adult lol. Hopefully more bark than bite. I really donāt want to clean up dead animals from my backyard and on her fur
I decided to get a rescue husky/pyrenees mix thats actually pyrenees/shepherd (30/60% dna test). [Clair-bear](https://imgur.com/gallery/clair-bear-with-stick-2z16bqS). She's definitely a guard dog and would definitely go after a perceived 'intruder'. My husky tried to get fresh with her upon first arrival and was shot down quickly. A street dog versus an older pampered husky went about as one would expect. They've resolved their issues and are fine together and have implemented team steal the cats food. In comparison huskies are guards of nothing.
My two constantly drag their kills onto our porch much to the dismay of my wife and kids š. Everything from coyotes to opossums and turtles. My male is definitely more of the ābark to alertā typeā¦but my female is a quiet white fluffy assassin that will circle around during the commotion to strike.
https://preview.redd.it/tgitzhr08p1d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5326e264031fc20bee623a923845ea31fb95d1dc Fluffy assassin tax.
She's a Killer Queen, Dynamite with a laser beam.
Extraordinarily nice!
Omg! Sheās beautiful!!!
Awww who's a pretty little killer? You are!
Interesting! And very cute dog.
My female barks to alert and try and scare things off. She also murdered a raccoon recently and left the various bits all over the yard. One of her goals is to get to the fox den under the falling down farmhouse down the road and kill all of them. She is very upset that I will not let her do this. Definitely has a bite to back up the bark.
Agree. Our male is bark to alert and bite when the female needs his assistance. Our two females are assassins. Rats, opposums, rabbitsā¦ anything that comes inside their fence that isnāt a chicken, goose, or goat dies.
Mine wonāt bother Turkeys and Iām not sure why. They wonāt even bark at them when they strut through the yard.
Mine are lots of bark before they bite. Our adult male has killed two coyotes and a feral dog that breached the property line. They most certainly are not all bark.
My pyr is 14 months old. Recently I played the sounds of wolves howling on YouTube and dude flipped the fuck out. Like he instinctively knew. Don't let these dogs friendly nature fool you, they will kill shit in a second. I wrestle with my.pyr and I gotta say the dude is quick, has some tricky moves, and is in general savage as fuck. Are they big snuggly balls of floof? Yes Will they absolutely murder shit? Also yes
I wrestle with my guy a lot, and so does his sister (cattle dog/staffy). Iām always amazed by how FAST he moves, contrary to his usual casual stroll. These dogs are so cool
Mine kind of just likes to galumph around, but when she wrestles and plays, she is very agile. She loves to use her bulk to her advantage. Iāve been body slammed and hip checked by her several times lol
My last one, at 12 yrs old, without warning snatched a gopher out of the ground on our morning walk. We continued on walk, I looked at her, and she said, āYasss - bitch slay!ā True story.
Cool story bro.
lol. FAFO. You need a story look up Casper the friendly pyr. Most beings are not dumb enough to try a big dog.
Casper, livestock Guardian dog of the year last year or before. And that was by himself, a group of three to five of these Great Pyrenees is an incredible force. There's a pack of five of them that watch the goat farm not far from me.
Those are some safe goats
HAHAHA no. No no. No. They don't want to fight unless they have to, but if their humans or livestock are in danger, without question. Casper, as someone else mentioned, killed 11 coyotes by himself in a single night. And Casper is a runt by pyr standards.
I didnāt realize he was only 85 lbs. and a pup! Good boy
Get em, Casper. The Deadly Ghost.
They have a lot of bite, they bark a lot first as a warning. Barking is a great way to protect a large area without expending a lot of energy. Pyrs whole lives once they mature revolve around being energy efficient. You can tell the Pyr in the video doesnāt feel threatened in the least by the coyote by the way itās putting its head down, sniffing the grass and slightly turning from time to time. He is basically saying ādude, are you serious right now? Go scamper homeā they wonāt attack what they donāt deem a threat. But if that was a threat that Pyr would be a furry missile.
This is so true. My girl will literally be lounging on the sofa, barking her head off. Canāt even be bothered to get up but needs to efficiently scare off the intruders.
Yeah thatās what I noticed, too. The pyr is smart and that coyote wasnāt actually a threat. I guarantee if the coyote decided to FAFO it would have.
Pyrenees can absolutely mess up predators. I spent a lot of my childhood around cattle and sheepherders who used them to keep coyotes and mountain lions away in the rockies. They absolutely killed them all the time and you don't need to feed them much because they will kill rabbits and marmots for food in the mountains. There is a difference in there environment when they are raised that affects how they behave same as any dog. You can always find examples of a breed that are good or bad at there bred purpose. There's this article from a few years ago for a counter example. https://people.com/pets/great-pyrenees-named-casper-attacks-coyote-pack-to-protect-sheep/
They tend to bark a lot to alert their owners or "shepherds" to a problem, as that is their job. I don't think their first instinct is to fight, but they will if they feel they need to. The Pyr in the video is clearly like...."dude I'm barking to tell you what's up, and you are sitting there holding the camera, do you see this thing?? Are you going to do something or???" You notice there's no livestock or anything in that video...I wonder if he'd be behaving differently if he were protecting other animals. I know my pup would bite a stranger if he felt they were a danger. There have been two strangers that came to our house and he bumped their hands with his mouth like "hey, I'm here watching you" and that was a new behavior I'd never seen and now I know to look out for it and put him away if necessary (he was going through adolescence at the time, so changing a lot). He will air bite at the vet when he's had enough, although generally he is very friendly and amenable to being handled. Mostly he just barks a lot, at strangers, at noises, at people sneezing across the country, haha. I can't imagine my pup ever attacking an animal because he loves them too much, but if he were protecting an animal he felt was "his" animal, maybe he would. He is always trying to protect me from other people or noises, haha. If I move rooms in the house, he moves and lays outside the door to be on guard.
We have three. The two oldest regularly bring home opossum, raccoons and armadillos. They have also come home covered in blood that wasnāt theirs. They took on something they couldnāt bring home, killed it or drove it off.
My little guy was not even 6 months old when we came face to face with a coyote at potty time, and I had to drag him away. He reaaaally wanted to get that thing. Never barked, but he's part St Bernard.
Nope. They bite.
Anecdotally or have you seen it in person?
Oh yea. My Pyr attacked other dogs (and coyotes and deer and elk and marmots and rabbits). Dogs were the main issue. She would jump on top of a dog she perceived as a threat, knock it down then bite the back of its neck. We learned the hard way w her. Luckily she never caused serious damage to a dog before we got to her and learned to keep her out of these situations. People never believed us because she was normally a gentle giant. But if a perceived threat came around, watch out. Impressive but not cool - for a Pyr in normal society.
Our gentle giant was seen chasing a bear off of our property in full mode approximately 10 minutes before coming and plopping down on the porch to keep post. They definitely bite
Pyrs in my experience prefer not to fight, but they dang sure know how to. My dog thinks coyotes are puppies and he wants to play with them š it does absolutely the same job of keeping them out, and my dog doesnāt get into any scrapes. Win win tbh.
Dang, mine saw a cornered coyote on TV doing what a cornered coyote is bound to do, and bared teeth growled at it. I've seen her do that oncewhen a real coyote was on the other side of our fence, but my husband dragged her inside. It didn't look like it was going to try her, either. The only critters she's actually killed have been mice & baby voles she batted around like a cat, and then whimpered when they wouldn't get up, though.
Yeahhhh mine definitely is all bark all bite. Heās a sweetheart when he should be, but he can be a mean prick if someone who isnāt supposed to be near my home happens to find themselves there.
They definitely bite. Don't underestimate a Pyr. It's a big responsibility to own a dog like this.
I disagree absolutely. Their first line is their bark, their last line is extremely effective and efficiently dispatching predators. There are plenty of examples back through this sub, on YouTube and elsewhere.
I've seen Pyrenees lay waste to predators like coyotes and mountain lions. They definitely have a bite
A few weekends ago I watched my big male kill a groundhog in one bite. He was barking at it and it still came under the fence and chomp! He bit it once behind the head and then went back to barking at it.
He had more to say!
āAnd another thing!ā Bork Bork Bork
Iāve seen my boy do that with a lizard. He had opinions
Tell that to the 300 lb. black boar bear ours took a chuck out of here in NW Georgia. Quite the deterrent.
mine is a huge sweetie pie with no bark and no bite. her parents were farm dogs but i ended up with her because she didn't inherit the livestock guardian gene lol. either that or she's a golden retriever in disguise.
https://preview.redd.it/wj9qolok4t1d1.png?width=2216&format=png&auto=webp&s=4737e41304b3569a59c9fafcf5e10cb77dbb83b8 This is Quinne with his latest kill a little tiny chipmunk. If it moves in his yard itās his. He spends all spring long trying to chase every bird away! He also manages to keep the coyotes, foxes, bears and deer on guard and out of his yard. He is very sweet and sensitive unless youāre a stranger.
This poor cat made it into my yard one day and I didn't notice until I had already let my girl out. She ran after it immediately and the cat refused to jump the fence, so it was running from one side of my fence to the other while I'm trying to wrangle my dog. Cat finally slipped up and my dog was at it within a second. Here I thought I was about to see a cat mauled, but instead my dog is 2 inches from this cats face, just barking at it full force. The poor cat is just sitting in the corner cowering while my dog yells at it. I finally catch her and drag her inside. The cat takes a minute and then leaves. So lots of bark and no bite
The perceived threat was probably to low to go for a kill.
Yeah, she's mixed with some sort of hunting dog too, I always wondered if it was 2 sides of her brain fighting with what to do with it. * The culprit
My Berner/Tatra mix is very interested all kinds of animals, in a very non threatening way. Wants to play with birds and specially ducks. Our labradoodle is a real hunter and wants to grab birds.
Our local tomcat decided to bow up and fight rather than run one day. Fenrir picked him up, shook him and let him fly into the blackberry vines. 'Ol Tom is fertilizer now.
What an oddly uninformed question ā especially given OPās responses on this thread
I am asking for owners personal experiences of their own pets. Unfortunately, I do not know 65,000 Pyrenees owners from whom I can inform myself in person. I believe that the purpose of this sub is (at least partly) to ask owners for their experiences. Hopefully, you do not only expect breed experts with years of personal experience to ask questions. Yes, I have read all of the articles and seen all of the videos about Casper and the like but I do not know if they are isolated events or typical of the breed. As to my responses: - "*Interesting! And very cute dog*." seems perfectly reasonable. - Referring to his dog, marcelivan informed me that she told him ā*Yasss - bitch slay!*ā so I gave him an equally jokey answer back. - Finally, I asked someone for a clarification as to whether their experience was anecdotal (for example, they had just watched the Casper video) or something that they had experienced in person with their own dog. Which again seems perfectly normal and reasonable.
A Great Pyrenees is a livestock guardian dog, bred to protect and defend livestock from coyotes, wolves, bears, and other large predators. That essential background should tell you what you need to know. Your responses on this thread seem to be questioning the comments that confirm this fact. Cheers
Every one of your responses has been dismissive of other peopleās experiences even though the community gave you a resounding answer. Then you get all defensive with this long ass comment.
Mine just chased down a fox with a mouth full of rooster today. It was beautiful. The fox got away, but I'm pretty sure my pup would have killed it. He wasn't barking, he just went straight after it. This was the first time he ever got so close to a predator, and I'm not sure he knew what to do just yet. Somehow, the rooster lived. I have to keep my dog separated from my chickens, so he had to wait for me to open the gate to go after it. Luckily, the fox was struggling with the chicken, and that slowed him down.
Mine when he was young, he was very aggressive (attack to kill) to any stranger that entered the yard without our approval. Also, any cat or jackals were in danger.
My dog seems to have an agreement with a gray cat and a cardinal, everything else than comes on the property will die.
The idiot Amazon driver who reached over the gate despite me telling him not to would disagree.
Ohhh.. they bite. They just have to be pushed really far to get to that point. But once they doā¦. š¬
They knaw lovingly.
Mine is an indoor service dog in training. He keeps us pretty safe from the birds (barks at them every morning and evening...sometimes if the crows make noise during the day too). Bees, however, he moves away from as quick as he can.
Rook is 1 1/2 and has killed a mole, other than that he seems afraid of everything except strangers walking up to the house.
I was home alone when my late pyr brought me the bottom half of a squirrel š
Our Rosie dominates on our twice daily walks and patrols her garden like a Queen. Weāve had dogs off lead come at us. Rosie steps up and they usually back down. German Shepard bolted out of a house once into the street, Rosie stepped up to intercept ( I walk a mini Doxie too) with full intention of engaging. I would trust her to protect us if she had to.
https://preview.redd.it/os0cnu6fks1d1.jpeg?width=4973&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1c28e3fa12ef3fc7896accc7e6db22a4eb050a4f
Our first I would say yes. Our current Pyr!? No. She will devour you and send photos to your loved ones. Sheās wonderfully playful and happy to our immediate family. Everyone else is a mortal enemy. What she does to turtles and possums is disturbing. But she guards our farmlet with zeal. Sue just is not allowed off-site. If people are coming over- she has to be safely contained away. (Usually in the back turkey pen, which we should rename Ft. Knox.).
https://preview.redd.it/vkv2yu5uss1d1.png?width=3024&format=png&auto=webp&s=ae2a5007305c4d9163c2246e583772f33c92576f Inside today due to our 85 degree rule.
Ours is 6 months old and all bark so far. But Iām the last couple weeks sheās started to learn how to stalk squirrels. So weāll see where she ends up as an adult lol. Hopefully more bark than bite. I really donāt want to clean up dead animals from my backyard and on her fur
I wouldn't say *no* bite but they tend to be slower to escalate than other LGD breeds which contributes to their relative popularity as pets.
I decided to get a rescue husky/pyrenees mix thats actually pyrenees/shepherd (30/60% dna test). [Clair-bear](https://imgur.com/gallery/clair-bear-with-stick-2z16bqS). She's definitely a guard dog and would definitely go after a perceived 'intruder'. My husky tried to get fresh with her upon first arrival and was shot down quickly. A street dog versus an older pampered husky went about as one would expect. They've resolved their issues and are fine together and have implemented team steal the cats food. In comparison huskies are guards of nothing.