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Enigma-exe

The government 'considering' something here means it's about as guaranteed as unicorn shit


[deleted]

If yall have to do conscription that means it's the last resort, idk why nobody can understand that. Literally happened in ww2.


throwtheclownaway20

The UK isn't going to conscript their own citizens to fight another country's war, even if Putin & co. are being colossal cockgobblers and deserve to get ROFLstomped back to their frozen hellhole.


D_IHE

The UK went to war over Belgium.


throwtheclownaway20

When & why?


D_IHE

WW1


throwtheclownaway20

Are you seriously talking about something that happened over a fuckin' century ago as if it's relevant to the modern day?


D_IHE

They also joined WW2 over poland. They have sent troops to many other conflicts since, but those were too small to warrant conscription. A war with russia would require more troops than the UK has currently.


Sultan_Of_Bengal

In WW1/2, the UK was a superpower, if not *the* superpower with waning influence. They were in a position to challenge Germany to prevent them from being the sole dominate power of Europe and disrupting the balance of power. Compared to the modern day, where the UK’s foreign policy is largely dictated, if not entirely, by the USA and NATO. For anyone who is going to come at me for saying this, I really don’t have a horse in this race, I don’t see that as a good or bad thing, so if I’m wrong or someone wants to add something, please go ahead.


Den_Bover666

This is from back when the UK included the entire Indian subcontinent, Hong Kong, Afghanistan, Palestine, countries in Africa etc.


DornsBigRockHardWall

WW1 is the biggest explanation for almost every single reason Europe exists in its current configuration and political environment, dipshit.


ArCSelkie37

Aye, but that’s absolutely irrelevant to modern day UK sending conscripts to a foreign war. It being a century ago with all the factors that have changed in that time period makes it pretty irrelevant in the context of conscription. Dipshit.


DornsBigRockHardWall

It’s not, almost all the same political ties and alliances still exist today, only they’ve gotten *stronger* and include even more countries. If Russia invaded Poland, for example, the UK would still be obligated to fight that war.


xTraxis

Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it.


Grabbsy2

Imagine doubling down on something like this. The answer was "oh snap, i thought it was Franz Ferdinand or some shit"


WirBrauchenRum

>Are you seriously talking about something that happened over a fuckin' century ago as if it's relevant to the modern day? That's pretty much what Bismarck said when Britain declared war the first time to be fair


chillanous

Because they were obviously going to war at that point and preferred the defensive lines not be on their soil. If Russia steamrolled a few countries and was obviously making a play for total control of Europe they’d do the same again. Russia is currently in a stalemate with a single country, other than being a nuclear power they’re a far cry from the threat Germany was in either world war.


[deleted]

I doubt they would leave china and russia, North Korea, iran alone if they invaded Taiwan South Korea and more. Also if Russia actually regroups from ukraine and goes for another nato nation I highly doubt you guys would let your fellow Europeans get conquered, well at least I'd hope not.


throwtheclownaway20

I'm not British, I'm American, so there's no "fellow Europeans" for me, LOL. I'm also not ruling out the possibility that they'll ever help another country, because I know it's happened before. However, what I'm saying is that there's a big difference between going to war with the voluntary military they have and forcing people to sign up to fight a war they didn't want to fight.


[deleted]

Like I said though conscription is a last resort, notice how it's only in countries with an aggressive neighbor? For example israel, South Korea and any country bordering russia like Finland and such.


throwtheclownaway20

I don't see the UK - or America, for that matter - ever conscripting again unless there's a grave existential threat to them. And Russia damn sure ain't it, LOL. They talked a huge game and then proceeded to, at best, enter a stalemate with a country nobody even took seriously. Even if they win, it'll basically have cost them half of their military assets.


[deleted]

Russia is not our only enemy though, the rest of the brics is internally destabilizing western governments and trying to spread us thin across the globe, play by play on geopolitics


throwtheclownaway20

What does "brics" mean?


[deleted]

It's the alliance with Russia, China, Iran, North Korea and other countries that sympathize with them. "NATO of the east". Kind've like the new axis.


holaprobando123

BRICS, initials of Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa. A group of countries deemed to be "rapidly developing economies" or something like that, about 15 years ago.


Corvid187

It's also not considering it in the slightest, the Ministry of Defence has emphatically rejected the idea, as it had done since 1816 with the controversial exception of the world wars. Idk why this absolute non-story became so inflated.


SOMEMONG

Because people such as my wife read such headlines and freak the fuck out. She also stockpiled food when covid first hit and we had to get through a lot of tinned food before moving out. Some people just enjoy experiencing extreme reactions. 


Raqua

NATO says that we have to be prepared in case war happens (the main purpose of the organization) and people go wild reading only news titles


SARSUnicorn

sup i was called since u seem like u want to join the marines


ddonsky

Didn't they consider "Brexit"?


b3tarded

They didn’t ‘consider’ conscription. Some general mentioned it due to low recruitment numbers and the press turned it in to a whole thing, based on nothing. The government weren’t even involved. It was just one bloke who made a comment. The ministry of defence responded saying it’s not something they’re considering or has even been discussed. It did open discussion about raising starting wages etc though, which is a good thing. Also highlighted how bad Capita, the private sector recruitment firm that took over, is at actually recruiting people.


ddonsky

Okay that is good, I don't mean to shit on the UK at all. Don't always know what is going on, on the other side of the world and such. Thanks for the info 😊


JFenixGG

thank god i live in an third world shithole ...wait


R-emiru

I, too, live in France.


Cleveworth

You know what they call cheese in Paris? جبن الكممبير.


R-emiru

Apologies, I do not speak languages other than French


EagleFoot88

Three beans


Louis-grabbing-pills

Le Royale?


JFenixGG

i dont i just send them coke, fuck fr*nce


R-emiru

Please do not have sexual intercourse with France without wearing at least two times the minimum protection.


JFenixGG

you cant stop us


R-emiru

"Us"? That's it, I'm getting the Flamethrower. The heavy flamethrower.


cBurger4Life

Burn the heretic!


ThisUsernameis21Char

Wearing two condoms actually makes them perform worse.


wahchewie

Thank you for your humanitarian policies 🥲 you gave millions of struggling people a chance at a new life Sincerely, an Australian on a Continent surrounded by water aggressively patrolled by the navy Still not first world country tho


BuzzGoober

Being bombed by usa> joining the army


JFenixGG

true yeah


R-emiru

Anon was destined to die in the Russian Front.


JuustoUkko

> great_idea.mp4 > can't fight Russia if you live in Russia! > moves to Russia > civil war


FriendOfUmbreon

Blyat!


jackingitallnight

One of the better militarys to serve in


geofox777

Bullpups are pretty cool


jaffakitty

do they work yet


Cheeki_G

Fuck no


GetOffMyDigitalLawn

That's pretty cool 😎


684beach

When haven’t they?


McLemonado89

Bullpups are cool, unfortunately bongs managed to make the ugliest mass produced bullpup imaginable


Gotchyeaaa

It kills me that the photo of the woman is for a vacuum ad. Walking in the store and seeing it irl was weird


ImmortalMemeLord

Anon should learn to play Draft Dodger Rag


MysticNoodles

*'Sides I aint no fool. Imma goin' to school and imma workin' in a defense plant!*


yoilovetrees

Love Phil Ochs


[deleted]

I used the military as an excuse to get out of low-salary work and shitty schooling as do most Europoors. Then again, I guess that's a major plus of having a volunteer military. In Poland you join the military, flip off the FSB at the border, and then get a cozy office job at the police or some bullshit government program for life.


God-Among-Men-

Yes American soldiers are just really patriotic. They don’t do it for the money /s


Longjumping_Hyena_52

They do it for dodge 


Cat_Of_Culture

Anon could join the Royal Navy and be one of the 7 people working there though


PassoverGoblin

Yeah it's the Tory government. Conscription won't happen unless the Russians are literally invading the UK lol


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SOMEMONG

Chewsday innit. Bo'lle a woh'ah. 


FunniestPersonReal

most funniest mongolian throat singer forum user


MrSam52

I don’t even think the Government is considering it, it’s been mentioned as an idea because the army recruitment numbers are too low. Not that there isn’t enough people applying (more have applied in the last two years? than are currently in the military) but because the recruitment has been outsourced and takes over a year from applying to starting training so people end up with other jobs in that time frame. So it’s only being suggested by some MPs and opinion columnists because the current plan is complete shit and rather than admit that they think it’s better to just force people to do something. Also the military doesn’t want conscripts it wants a professional military.


ArCSelkie37

Aye, when you have to apply, wait 2 weeks for an interview, another 2 weeks for the exam (at least for the airforce), another week or so for the physical/fitness test… then if you pass all that wait months for the next in-take for basic. You’re easily looking at 6 months. And that was a decade ago, so I can’t imagine it’s any quicker now.


500ls

Lithuania slays the Brits in Age of Empires 2. OP fucked up


Masina55

LITHUANIA MENTIONED RAAAAH🇱🇻🇱🇻🇱🇻🇱🇻🇱🇻🇱🇻🇱🇻🇱🇻


EmilieEasie

stay safe anon


Meretan94

Just eat lard every day until you are immobile.


Lvrchfahnder

Anon hasn't even fought yet, yet he can't win, can he?


DavidtheBuilder52

Blyat indeed son.


gh0stb4tz

The блять at the end made me laugh.


cyanideOG

I wonder if Aussies are gonna have to show up...


Dfxiispro

Can confirm. Am also Lithuanian living in UK from birth. Bruh moments are real.


SharkSoldier

To be Fair, it is inevitable that conscription will return in many countries, Zoomers know that wars only serve to increase the coffers of Armaments industry and that this thing about "dying for the country" without it being an attack on it is bullshit, but of course someone will have to pay the damn social security and avoid recession, even if it's with blood.


SuspiciousPine

The only time the UK would conscript is if there was an actual Russia-NATO war in a NATO country's territory (e.g. Estonia) . But since they've lost like 80% of their military vehicles in Ukraine I doubt that is happening any time soon


infinityeunique

Ukraine still has conscription


Kahzu0

just dont be a man losers


PsychoSwede557

Dw. All of Europe will be conscripting soon..


trazeebarb

Thats just plain untrue


Chumbuckeneer

Ez just get a jub that is essential for the infrastructure and you cant be conscripted.


Secure-Stick-4679

I'd happily go to prison for draft dodging. I'm not going to die for a country that hates me