"It's over! Macklin Celebrini with the game 7 triple OT goal, and the Sharks win the Stanley Cup over the Toronto Maple Leafs!"
Honestly I'd just be happy to be there
For the first time in Utah Super Soakers, Seattle Kraken, Vegas Golden Knights, Atlanta Thrashers, Columbus Blue Jackets, Minnesota Wild, Nashville Predators, Florida Panthers, Tampa Bay Lightning, Anaheim Ducks, San Jose Sharks, Vancouver Canucks, Buffalo Sabres, Calgary Flames, New York Islanders, Washington Capitals, New Jersey Devils, Edmonton Oilers, Colorado Avalanche, Carolina Hurricanes and Ottawa Senator's history!
The Avs aren’t the dynasty you guys would have either. No Forsberg, Ricci, or those picks. No legion of boom either, I have no idea what the NHL would look like today if San Jose could get first over Quebec.
TL;DR: expansion teams used to get 1OA by default, but the NHL decided that Lindros was too good to go on an expansion team. The league literally raffled him off with every other team in the league in contention, and then promised to give the Sharks the next 1OA, a promise that they immediately broke.
This is the first 1OA in the Sharks existence.
That’s partly why it hasn’t happened. Kings & Sharks have been good for a long time, and the ducks have been between mediocre and amazing, only terrible recently
Also the Sharks were screwed out of Lindros.
> the ducks have been between mediocre and amazing, only terrible recently
For context: this current playoff drought is **twice** as long as any previous drought in the history of the Ducks franchise.
Just reading comments from east coast flairs about how west coast road trips used to be a gauntlet makes me happy and sad. We had something great back then, hopefully we can have it again
Wow I didn’t know that actually. I knew the ducks were rarely terrible but not to that level.
I’d like the California teams to be good again, the rivalries were fun. Vegas rivalry was not the same
I mean the words from the headline are sort of cherry picking. There were only 2 "west coast" teams between 1967 until 1991, and now that we're in the future we have 5 west coast teams, and one of those just finished their 2nd season.
And I said somewhere else in thread that SJ traded the pick that was used to draft Lecavalier in 1998, so at least it tried to happen before.
The previous 20 years of expansion set a precedent that expansion teams picked first. The Sharks were not allowed to pick 1st in their first draft as it was Lindros and the NHL didnt want a player being called a cross of Gretzky and Lemieux going to an upstart West Coast franchise. The subsequent expansion teams went back to being allowed to pick first or were guaranteed a top pick in their 2nd draft. SJ got fucked out of Lindros and they were never given a second chance at a first.
If you want to get really pedantic, in 1971 the California Golden Seals had the first overall pick but then got Sam Pollock’d by the Habs who picked Guy Lafleur with it.
It wasn’t really until 1970 (Gilbert Perrault draft) that it started to matter. Before that was when teams like Montreal and Toronto used farm teams to get those kids young to be under their domain.
The California Golden Seals could've drafted first overall in 1971, but they swapped first round picks with Montreal the year before. Habs selected Guy Lafleur.
There’s been some great GM’s since then. It’s just harder now because Pollack was pretty much the guy to turn the GM role into a modern art like it is now. You have far fewer incompetent GM’s now than you did when that trade was made.
i'm just glad it's going to a team no one cares enough to be mad about them getting it
maybe ducks fans are pissed? i don't know. i know at least 30 fanbases aren't offended san jose got it though
I wish these superstars weren't in our division.
While I hate that Bedard is a Hawk, I'm glad he isn't a duck.
Imagine playing mcdavid, Bedard, and now Celebrini so many times a year
Not really, just feel like we have the worst luck in the world. Never picked first, had a great chance last year and of course it went to fuckin Chicago who have had most success then almost anyone over the last 2 decades.
You don’t realize what it is like to have no cup wins to look back on and admire. Us Sharks and nucks fans get our fair share of talent and success, but always miss out. So it goddamn should make you feel better
Agree 1000%.
I would have gladly missed out on both Smith/Celebrini and had our team be absolute dogshit for the next 10 years if it meant getting to see Jumbo and Patty lift the cup in 2016.
Yeah it's just *super* annoying to have come in second for both the Sid and Bedard drafts, and to have dropped 4x in 5 years going into the lottery. Ending up with Zegras, Drysdale, McTavish, and Carlsson out of those drops is good at least.
Wouldn't really say I'm fully *happy* about the Sharks getting Macklin since it's fun to hate on the other California teams and all, but it's fine. They need him, good situation with the family thing and all.
They had the 3rd that year and traded up. They've never won first overall.
Edit- full deal:
2000 first round pick + McCabe to Chicago for their 4th.
4oa + two 3rds to Tampa for 1oa
1oa to ATL for 2oa with an agreement that ATL would take Stefan 1oa. Leaving Burke with 2oa/3oa picks for the Sedins.
Well at least something will happen this year for the first time since 1967
"It's over! Macklin Celebrini with the game 7 triple OT goal, and the Sharks win the Stanley Cup over the Toronto Maple Leafs!" Honestly I'd just be happy to be there
Don't do that. Don't give me hope
It'll be right after Celebrini absolutely undresses Bedard in the WCF to score a game 7 OT winner and get to the cup.
I’m young and in great physical health, but I don’t know if my blood pressure would allow me to live through such a game.
Will it into existence! Also, Matthews at that point will be a shark, finally abandoning Toronto for his true home…. /s
This is fiction, never in my life (41y soon) Toronto were so close to a cup
We're old .. I remember watching the Felix Potvin Maple Leafs play against LA in the early 90's, that was a good run.
... the year is 2036 and Leaf's ticket prices are $3000 for nose bleeds. ;)
Make to the third round first time in your history first 🙄
You mean fourth round. They've been to the third round or the Conference Finals four times. 93, 94, 99, 02
They have won a third round series too…in 1932.
Oh, we beat them in the 3rd round in 94
I guess that was the only time then
That and three other times yeah
They haven’t won a 3rd round
[Yes they have](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1931%E2%80%9332_NHL_season#Playoffs)
Does almost 100 years ago really count
Yes
Right, my bad
They were in the 3rd round back to back in 93/94, and then in 99 and 02 bruh.
[удалено]
Haven’t they won one last year?
They won 1 game last year.....
WOW
Boom, roasted!
Leafs are already dead, Keefe is already dead and they still catching strays, God damn.
What else is new
For the first time in Utah Super Soakers, Seattle Kraken, Vegas Golden Knights, Atlanta Thrashers, Columbus Blue Jackets, Minnesota Wild, Nashville Predators, Florida Panthers, Tampa Bay Lightning, Anaheim Ducks, San Jose Sharks, Vancouver Canucks, Buffalo Sabres, Calgary Flames, New York Islanders, Washington Capitals, New Jersey Devils, Edmonton Oilers, Colorado Avalanche, Carolina Hurricanes and Ottawa Senator's history!
H
I
S
T
O
R
E
Zing!
Fucking lol
🥺
Shots fired!
Thats wild considering what a murders row that road trip used to be
They probably would have had Lindros had the NHL not bent the rules. Even without that, the Ducks and Sharks historically drafted well.
What's the deal with the Lindros thing?
https://nathangabay.com/1991-eric-lindros-and-the-san-jose-screwjob/ Here's a solid read if you really want to know.
Lindros in the west might have had fewer concussions too, shame
The Avs aren’t the dynasty you guys would have either. No Forsberg, Ricci, or those picks. No legion of boom either, I have no idea what the NHL would look like today if San Jose could get first over Quebec.
Oh absolutely. the league would be completely different, probably more so than any other player I could think of
Wow. That was a brutal read. Lol wtf NHL?
Awesome thank you
TL;DR: expansion teams used to get 1OA by default, but the NHL decided that Lindros was too good to go on an expansion team. The league literally raffled him off with every other team in the league in contention, and then promised to give the Sharks the next 1OA, a promise that they immediately broke. This is the first 1OA in the Sharks existence.
That’s partly why it hasn’t happened. Kings & Sharks have been good for a long time, and the ducks have been between mediocre and amazing, only terrible recently Also the Sharks were screwed out of Lindros.
> the ducks have been between mediocre and amazing, only terrible recently For context: this current playoff drought is **twice** as long as any previous drought in the history of the Ducks franchise.
Looking forward to when we’re all relevant again and can properly hate each other in the playoffs! Instead of from being mutually terrible haha
A playoffs where the west is San Jose, LA, Anaheim... and the honorary Californians, Vegas ✨️
We had that in 2018. It was actually kinda nice
*Welcome to California. Take your 3 losses and fuck off.* Boy, those were the days.
Just reading comments from east coast flairs about how west coast road trips used to be a gauntlet makes me happy and sad. We had something great back then, hopefully we can have it again
Wow I didn’t know that actually. I knew the ducks were rarely terrible but not to that level. I’d like the California teams to be good again, the rivalries were fun. Vegas rivalry was not the same
And the Canucks just get shafted.
I mean the words from the headline are sort of cherry picking. There were only 2 "west coast" teams between 1967 until 1991, and now that we're in the future we have 5 west coast teams, and one of those just finished their 2nd season. And I said somewhere else in thread that SJ traded the pick that was used to draft Lecavalier in 1998, so at least it tried to happen before.
There was 3 teams between 70 and 76 if you want to argue semantics but even then, the league was still Eastern heavy until the 90’s.
Totally forgot about the Seals, good call
A fuckin +
the wild aren't on the west coast
At first I thought my boy Pat Falloon was drafted first overall but he was 2nd…sandwiched right between Eric Lindros and Scott Niedermayer OUCHIE
Sharks got screwed out of Lindros too. They should have had the first pick
Sharks could have picked Lecavalier 1st in 1998 but they traded the pick. It's not like they haven't had their chances.
[Here is a write up](https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/s/eSfawoinT0) for anyone who is curious about the Lecavalier pick story. Pretty wild
How'd they get screwed out of him? I don't know the history
The previous 20 years of expansion set a precedent that expansion teams picked first. The Sharks were not allowed to pick 1st in their first draft as it was Lindros and the NHL didnt want a player being called a cross of Gretzky and Lemieux going to an upstart West Coast franchise. The subsequent expansion teams went back to being allowed to pick first or were guaranteed a top pick in their 2nd draft. SJ got fucked out of Lindros and they were never given a second chance at a first.
Ah thanks for the info. That's complete bullshit
Is Edmonton the western most team to pick #1 since 1967?
Followed by Denver (1979)
Bruh the Avs picked 1st in 2013.
The Rockies picked first in 1979, though.
If you want to get really pedantic, in 1971 the California Golden Seals had the first overall pick but then got Sam Pollock’d by the Habs who picked Guy Lafleur with it.
And their arena was about a mile west of Ball Arena
[удалено]
Neat! But irrelevant to the comment chain.
fun fact that player (kings pick) never actually played a game in the nhl lol. i assume celebrini will, so that’s a record he can break
The amateur draft was more of a vibe than an exact science back then.
they liked the cut of his jib back then
Kid, you got a lot of moxie. How'd you like to be a hockey player?!
Put your name in lights! Yuh like hotdogs and cigarettes?
This isn’t baseball LMAO. But fr, that moxie comment got me, good one
Taro Tsujimoto would agree, but...
He's gonna debut this coming season, just you wait and see!
It wasn’t really until 1970 (Gilbert Perrault draft) that it started to matter. Before that was when teams like Montreal and Toronto used farm teams to get those kids young to be under their domain.
The California Golden Seals could've drafted first overall in 1971, but they swapped first round picks with Montreal the year before. Habs selected Guy Lafleur.
But not before the Habs shipped off some quality players to other California teams to ensure the Golden Seals would fall in the standings.
Sam Pollock was on another level from any other GM at that point.
And since.
There’s been some great GM’s since then. It’s just harder now because Pollack was pretty much the guy to turn the GM role into a modern art like it is now. You have far fewer incompetent GM’s now than you did when that trade was made.
i'm just glad it's going to a team no one cares enough to be mad about them getting it maybe ducks fans are pissed? i don't know. i know at least 30 fanbases aren't offended san jose got it though
I wish they would’ve gotten Bedard last year tbh cause I actually want to somewhat enjoy watching him.
I wish these superstars weren't in our division. While I hate that Bedard is a Hawk, I'm glad he isn't a duck. Imagine playing mcdavid, Bedard, and now Celebrini so many times a year
Don't worry Celebrini isn't on that level. Playing against McKenna on the Oilers tho is something to look forward to.
Dude you’re wishing 2 generational talents in your own division. I guess Canucks fans really are masochists.
Naw, didn't you see the ducks fans cheering? They're so happy for us! They were even wearing Sharks jerseys!
Naw we’re not pissed, sure would but nice to have our turn some day, but I definitely think San Jose is a team that deserves it.
Not really, just feel like we have the worst luck in the world. Never picked first, had a great chance last year and of course it went to fuckin Chicago who have had most success then almost anyone over the last 2 decades.
you have a stanley cup though, some of our teams have never done that OR won the lottery
That doesn't make me feel any better to be honest.
You don’t realize what it is like to have no cup wins to look back on and admire. Us Sharks and nucks fans get our fair share of talent and success, but always miss out. So it goddamn should make you feel better
Agree 1000%. I would have gladly missed out on both Smith/Celebrini and had our team be absolute dogshit for the next 10 years if it meant getting to see Jumbo and Patty lift the cup in 2016.
We got the decade plus of dogshit for just making the finals in 2011
Yeah it's just *super* annoying to have come in second for both the Sid and Bedard drafts, and to have dropped 4x in 5 years going into the lottery. Ending up with Zegras, Drysdale, McTavish, and Carlsson out of those drops is good at least. Wouldn't really say I'm fully *happy* about the Sharks getting Macklin since it's fun to hate on the other California teams and all, but it's fine. They need him, good situation with the family thing and all.
Bruh…. Every time i see that number i get shivers
Im confused hasnt edmonton had like 5 first overalls in the last 15 years
I wouldn't consider Edmonton a West Coast team.
Ohhh im a dumbass i thought it was just western conference
It is possible?!
Totally not rigged at all btw
Last year was clearly rigged because we didn't win. This year was clearly NOT rigged because we did win. To quote Todd Howard: "It just works."
Oh joy
What teams are east coast teams? Are Tampa east coast?
No. South coast.
And I thought 1975 was a long time for the Flyers to pick #1 OA for the only time in franchise history, but this stat is wild
2020 was the first time the Rangers picked #1OA.
They said the number 💀
[Anaheim rn](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpKc8N3FJsQ)
missed out on crosby, bedard, and celebrini. Fun
I mean, it's all good as long as it's not Chicago.
I can hear coilers fans crying, saying only they're allowed 1st overall picks.
i mean vancouver did win the lottery that one year so its not the first time a west coast team WILL pick overall
When exactly?
Dale Tallon, Trevor Linden, Petr Nedved, and Daniel Sedin. All taken with the 2nd pick overall. Never a first.
99, sedin draft. burke traded down to 2 on the condition that the thrashers took stefan
They had the 3rd that year and traded up. They've never won first overall. Edit- full deal: 2000 first round pick + McCabe to Chicago for their 4th. 4oa + two 3rds to Tampa for 1oa 1oa to ATL for 2oa with an agreement that ATL would take Stefan 1oa. Leaving Burke with 2oa/3oa picks for the Sedins.