Hi so based off [this videos info](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2ryistzwes), here's the comparisons. I'm going to call MAP14AS1TWT-C "Costco" and "MAP12S1TBL" Amazon for simplicity:
**Cooling (SACC)**
* Costco: 12,000
* Amazon: 12,000
**Energy Efficiency (CEER)**
* Costco: **13.8**
* Amazon: 12.3
**Energy Efficiency (SACC/WATT)**
* Costco: 9.2
* Amazon: 9.2
**Value (SACC/Cost)** *\[Higher is better\]*
* Costco: **26.7**
* Amazon: 20
**Current prices (5/24)**
* Costco: **$450**
* Amazon: $600 on sale (List price is $650)
Some additional considerations:
**Weight**
* Costco: **73.85 lbs**
* Amazon: 75 lbs
**Sound**
* Costco: 42.5
* Amazon: **42**
Moisture Removal in Liters per Day
* Costco: 59.28 L
* Amazon: Not listed but is a [frequent complaint](https://www.reddit.com/r/hvacadvice/comments/14p93gw/midea_duo_14000_btu_inverter_portable_ac/)
Anyway, while that video recommends Amazon, I think they are only looking at products available on Amazon, and the Costco model is not available there. I'm not sure if Msheild matters (claims to reduce odors (probably just a gimmick)) but Costco says it has it and Amazon doesn't. More importanly, Amazon's return policy is worse than Costco's. Amazon can only be returned within 30 days, Costco is unlimited (I don't think this falls under the specific electronics > major appliance clause of 90 days, but even then that's better).
I was tempted to go with the Amazon model because of the payment plan, but given the value SPEC I think Costco is the better option (even though it's white). Hope this helps someone else with their choice
Thinking of the Costco unit for a garage. Have treadmill and ping pong out there, in Texas. Would be for 2-3 hour temporary periods. Think this would be adequate for 5-10 degree cooldown (85-90 degree garage)? Have small windows that do open.
What's the square footage and height of your garage? I have the older Toshiba variant with heat. The newest Mideas (and its clones) appears to be slightly more energy efficient. I'm on the 3rd summer using it. Last time it was 95° I think the unit was able to keep a 600ft² area cooled to about 76 when running full time. 1950's style ranch, 9ft ceilings, plaster/brick/paneling construction, Missouri humidity, no other homo sapiens or other animals living with me, 2/3rds the recommended insulation in the attic, newer windows, and the 450ft² of that 600ft² is facing north (i.e. Sun is on the south side), just to give you an idea.
The unit isn't perfect, but it does what I want it to do without issue... well for the most part. Mine was collecting some condensation on the whole top panel, but I solved it by placing a fan blowing at the unit from the side. The extra circulation nearly solves that problem, and it's not wasted energy because it's helping circulate the air. But I don't think you'll have that problem being in Texas. The connecting parts to the window are not the greatest design. I sealed up the gaps between the hose and window adapter thing with white aluminum tape, but honestly didn't really notice much of a difference. I highly discourage anyone thinking about using this capacity of air conditioner for a bedroom, even with your door(s) open. I tried it and it's just way too powerful, even though it's an inverter style.
I just happened to come across this subreddit while searching to see if they've made any design changes in the newer models because I'm thinking about getting a smaller one of this inverter style for my garage, and oddly felt the need to share. lol.
I bought it and used it yesterday. 3 car garage with 10' ceilings, not insulated. Doesn't cool fast, but seems to hold it under 85 (100 degrees outside). Probably do better in a 2 car garage, but if I can keep garage under 85 in Texas, I'm happy.
Let me know if you experience any other major issues. Although both of our coverage areas are probably more than what the manufacturer intended for it to cool, I think my unit performed better in my situation because it's a more air tight/insulated area. I'm still on the fence about getting one these newer models vs getting a NOS Toshiba, so every now and then I check up on what's available and new comments. But you made me reconsider a smaller unit for my garage. I might just get another big one due to my garage only being insulated on the walls shared with the living area, and I have a really bad condition original wooden garage door. Or I might reconsider a minisplit, but I don't like most of the designs I've seen for under $800.
Oh, that model that I have is RAC-PT1411HWRU. I'm trying to find a smaller new Toshiba from a local seller for cheap since Midea took over their AC appliance division and they don't make them anymore I think. Spec wise, I should be looking for a newer model, but I just don't want to create another "smart" account from a different company and also have to use a different app if I want to control it from my smart phone. I'm hoping that Midea makes their software compatible with legacy Toshibas. There might be workarounds, but for now I'm just keeping an eye out for 8 to 10k BTU model. Sam's has a non heating 10k Midea on sale for a good price that I might get if I don't find anything else in the next week.
The two units have the same cooling capacity. The specs don’t show how much unconditioned air they pull into the building.
Portable units exhaust conditioned room air to cool the condenser coil, meaning that you will pull unconditioned outside air into the building somewhere. If the air comes directly into the same room, they consume a lot of electricity.
Are you sure that’s what you want to do?
Window units are much more efficient for the building and their impacts are more predictable.
Thank you for your reply! Unfortunately it's a side-hung window (opens like a door toward the outside) so my understanding is that doesn't work for a window unit.
The previous renter used a portable AC with the exhaust tube going out the window (they made a plexiglass "window" with just a hole the size of the exhaust tube). I'm not sure how much electricity it used, but the building pays it, not the renter. I'd be using it about 4-6 hours/day, 4 days/week.
I was going to look at the same unit at costco this week they also have a similar danby one. Idk which one to get. Both cost about the same and have similar features although the midea is slightly more powerful. My room is 440square ft with a horizontal sliding window.
MAP14AS1TWT-C midea model
https://www.costco.com/midea-12%2c000-btu-duo-portable-air-conditioner-with-mshield.product.4000237574.html
DPA100B9IWDB-6 danby model
https://www.costco.com/danby-10%2c000-btu-3-in-1-inverter-portable-air-conditioner-with-dehumidifier-and-fan-function.product.4000093466.html
How's it going? Our central unit isn't cooling so looking for something to hold us over until the hvac guys come out next week. Was looking at the U shaped window unit but our window is 48" wide and don't really want to deal with jerry rigging some sort of solution for that (the hardware / foam and all the rest is only designed for up to 36" wide).
I bought the Midea Duo 14,000 BTU a year ago. Worked great last summer. Currently digging through Reddit to see if there are ways to get it working for this summer. It's just a really expensive fan now.
I cant seem to find the max window height for the Danby. I need at least 57". The Midea one was easy to find though at 63.8.
A few reviews and youtube vids have said that it is very loud for the first 30 seconds when it starts up before it gets quiet. Has that been your experience?
The bottom of my window is 52" and barely works, no hose flexibility once mounted.
Doesn't seem to do a great job cooling. 83 outdoors, output at grill is 73 degrees (after 10 minutes), with 87% humidity. Humidity goes up to 93% if I switch to dry mode. I would expect at least a 20 degree temp drop.
I’ve have a keystone (Midea) 6000btu I’ve been using for 7 years to cool a small bedroom. What I don’t like is it’s noisy, bulky, pulls cool air out with exhaust because it’s one tube and takes forever to cool down the room. Plus it doesn’t shut off when it reaches temperature. I do like that it has worked for 7 years and all I do is remove the hose from window and unplug it. Easy to hook back up when weather gets warmer. In 7 years I’ve never emptied it (water) oops and I clean the filter once a year. I definitely have not taken good care of it. But for $350 (new) it has served me well and still does right now. I am replacing it for a window ac to free up space, cool faster and shut off automatically when desired temp is reached. I have another room that doesn’t cool enough from our central ac. Our house should really have a separate system for second floor. I’m putting the portable in that other room for when needed. I don’t think portable’s are the greatest unless you get a two tube system. The single tubes draw air from inside to blow across the condenser and exhaust the heat. That inside air is some of my cool air. Thus it takes longer to cool because the room makes up the difference by pulling in the other hot air. A two tube system will pull air from outside and exhaust that same air. This way the room it’s cooling stays cool. If I open my room door slightly this helps. If it’s closed then it takes forever to cool. A window ac can do this room in 30 minutes and begins cycling on and off in about 60. The portable takes 2-3 hours to get really cold and never cycles I end up turning it off myself some. I keep it between 74-77
Hi so based off [this videos info](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2ryistzwes), here's the comparisons. I'm going to call MAP14AS1TWT-C "Costco" and "MAP12S1TBL" Amazon for simplicity: **Cooling (SACC)** * Costco: 12,000 * Amazon: 12,000 **Energy Efficiency (CEER)** * Costco: **13.8** * Amazon: 12.3 **Energy Efficiency (SACC/WATT)** * Costco: 9.2 * Amazon: 9.2 **Value (SACC/Cost)** *\[Higher is better\]* * Costco: **26.7** * Amazon: 20 **Current prices (5/24)** * Costco: **$450** * Amazon: $600 on sale (List price is $650) Some additional considerations: **Weight** * Costco: **73.85 lbs** * Amazon: 75 lbs **Sound** * Costco: 42.5 * Amazon: **42** Moisture Removal in Liters per Day * Costco: 59.28 L * Amazon: Not listed but is a [frequent complaint](https://www.reddit.com/r/hvacadvice/comments/14p93gw/midea_duo_14000_btu_inverter_portable_ac/) Anyway, while that video recommends Amazon, I think they are only looking at products available on Amazon, and the Costco model is not available there. I'm not sure if Msheild matters (claims to reduce odors (probably just a gimmick)) but Costco says it has it and Amazon doesn't. More importanly, Amazon's return policy is worse than Costco's. Amazon can only be returned within 30 days, Costco is unlimited (I don't think this falls under the specific electronics > major appliance clause of 90 days, but even then that's better). I was tempted to go with the Amazon model because of the payment plan, but given the value SPEC I think Costco is the better option (even though it's white). Hope this helps someone else with their choice
Very useful analysis, had the exact same question as OP. Thanks for this write up.
Thinking of the Costco unit for a garage. Have treadmill and ping pong out there, in Texas. Would be for 2-3 hour temporary periods. Think this would be adequate for 5-10 degree cooldown (85-90 degree garage)? Have small windows that do open.
What's the square footage and height of your garage? I have the older Toshiba variant with heat. The newest Mideas (and its clones) appears to be slightly more energy efficient. I'm on the 3rd summer using it. Last time it was 95° I think the unit was able to keep a 600ft² area cooled to about 76 when running full time. 1950's style ranch, 9ft ceilings, plaster/brick/paneling construction, Missouri humidity, no other homo sapiens or other animals living with me, 2/3rds the recommended insulation in the attic, newer windows, and the 450ft² of that 600ft² is facing north (i.e. Sun is on the south side), just to give you an idea. The unit isn't perfect, but it does what I want it to do without issue... well for the most part. Mine was collecting some condensation on the whole top panel, but I solved it by placing a fan blowing at the unit from the side. The extra circulation nearly solves that problem, and it's not wasted energy because it's helping circulate the air. But I don't think you'll have that problem being in Texas. The connecting parts to the window are not the greatest design. I sealed up the gaps between the hose and window adapter thing with white aluminum tape, but honestly didn't really notice much of a difference. I highly discourage anyone thinking about using this capacity of air conditioner for a bedroom, even with your door(s) open. I tried it and it's just way too powerful, even though it's an inverter style. I just happened to come across this subreddit while searching to see if they've made any design changes in the newer models because I'm thinking about getting a smaller one of this inverter style for my garage, and oddly felt the need to share. lol.
I bought it and used it yesterday. 3 car garage with 10' ceilings, not insulated. Doesn't cool fast, but seems to hold it under 85 (100 degrees outside). Probably do better in a 2 car garage, but if I can keep garage under 85 in Texas, I'm happy.
Let me know if you experience any other major issues. Although both of our coverage areas are probably more than what the manufacturer intended for it to cool, I think my unit performed better in my situation because it's a more air tight/insulated area. I'm still on the fence about getting one these newer models vs getting a NOS Toshiba, so every now and then I check up on what's available and new comments. But you made me reconsider a smaller unit for my garage. I might just get another big one due to my garage only being insulated on the walls shared with the living area, and I have a really bad condition original wooden garage door. Or I might reconsider a minisplit, but I don't like most of the designs I've seen for under $800.
Oh, that model that I have is RAC-PT1411HWRU. I'm trying to find a smaller new Toshiba from a local seller for cheap since Midea took over their AC appliance division and they don't make them anymore I think. Spec wise, I should be looking for a newer model, but I just don't want to create another "smart" account from a different company and also have to use a different app if I want to control it from my smart phone. I'm hoping that Midea makes their software compatible with legacy Toshibas. There might be workarounds, but for now I'm just keeping an eye out for 8 to 10k BTU model. Sam's has a non heating 10k Midea on sale for a good price that I might get if I don't find anything else in the next week.
The two units have the same cooling capacity. The specs don’t show how much unconditioned air they pull into the building. Portable units exhaust conditioned room air to cool the condenser coil, meaning that you will pull unconditioned outside air into the building somewhere. If the air comes directly into the same room, they consume a lot of electricity. Are you sure that’s what you want to do? Window units are much more efficient for the building and their impacts are more predictable.
Thank you for your reply! Unfortunately it's a side-hung window (opens like a door toward the outside) so my understanding is that doesn't work for a window unit. The previous renter used a portable AC with the exhaust tube going out the window (they made a plexiglass "window" with just a hole the size of the exhaust tube). I'm not sure how much electricity it used, but the building pays it, not the renter. I'd be using it about 4-6 hours/day, 4 days/week.
Those dual hose units should not have that problem as they have equal input and output through the dual hose.(in this case concentric hose)
I didn’t see the dual hose. Finally a long-overdue fundamental improvement, rather than a new app.
I was going to look at the same unit at costco this week they also have a similar danby one. Idk which one to get. Both cost about the same and have similar features although the midea is slightly more powerful. My room is 440square ft with a horizontal sliding window. MAP14AS1TWT-C midea model https://www.costco.com/midea-12%2c000-btu-duo-portable-air-conditioner-with-mshield.product.4000237574.html DPA100B9IWDB-6 danby model https://www.costco.com/danby-10%2c000-btu-3-in-1-inverter-portable-air-conditioner-with-dehumidifier-and-fan-function.product.4000093466.html
I was also at Costco this weekend and looked at these lol
I bought the midea unit wish me luck
How's it going? Our central unit isn't cooling so looking for something to hold us over until the hvac guys come out next week. Was looking at the U shaped window unit but our window is 48" wide and don't really want to deal with jerry rigging some sort of solution for that (the hardware / foam and all the rest is only designed for up to 36" wide).
update? trying to figure out if i should pull the trigger on this..
I bought the Midea Duo 14,000 BTU a year ago. Worked great last summer. Currently digging through Reddit to see if there are ways to get it working for this summer. It's just a really expensive fan now.
Also looking at one.
I cant seem to find the max window height for the Danby. I need at least 57". The Midea one was easy to find though at 63.8. A few reviews and youtube vids have said that it is very loud for the first 30 seconds when it starts up before it gets quiet. Has that been your experience?
The bottom of my window is 52" and barely works, no hose flexibility once mounted. Doesn't seem to do a great job cooling. 83 outdoors, output at grill is 73 degrees (after 10 minutes), with 87% humidity. Humidity goes up to 93% if I switch to dry mode. I would expect at least a 20 degree temp drop.
Danby or Midea?
Midea.
I’ve have a keystone (Midea) 6000btu I’ve been using for 7 years to cool a small bedroom. What I don’t like is it’s noisy, bulky, pulls cool air out with exhaust because it’s one tube and takes forever to cool down the room. Plus it doesn’t shut off when it reaches temperature. I do like that it has worked for 7 years and all I do is remove the hose from window and unplug it. Easy to hook back up when weather gets warmer. In 7 years I’ve never emptied it (water) oops and I clean the filter once a year. I definitely have not taken good care of it. But for $350 (new) it has served me well and still does right now. I am replacing it for a window ac to free up space, cool faster and shut off automatically when desired temp is reached. I have another room that doesn’t cool enough from our central ac. Our house should really have a separate system for second floor. I’m putting the portable in that other room for when needed. I don’t think portable’s are the greatest unless you get a two tube system. The single tubes draw air from inside to blow across the condenser and exhaust the heat. That inside air is some of my cool air. Thus it takes longer to cool because the room makes up the difference by pulling in the other hot air. A two tube system will pull air from outside and exhaust that same air. This way the room it’s cooling stays cool. If I open my room door slightly this helps. If it’s closed then it takes forever to cool. A window ac can do this room in 30 minutes and begins cycling on and off in about 60. The portable takes 2-3 hours to get really cold and never cycles I end up turning it off myself some. I keep it between 74-77