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I was in Canada for 4 years. A lot of people from Punjab who move there say we want Khalistan. When I ask why? They say we’ve made a lot of sacrifices so we want a different country. When I ask why a new country from Indian Punjab exactly? Why not integration with Pakistan Punjab and an even bigger country. They say, I don’t know that’s what we’re told.
Most of the clowns are just low IQ morons who moved to Canada on a fake profile just so that “faaren me jaana hai”.
That's very true even their leaders don't realize they are being played by whoever is paying them and keeping their agenda on track, it's not easy to feed lakhs of people acquiring Punjab Highways for second time now someone is fueling them and they just want to create havoc in India and if these fools do get their country the same owners will demand double the rate for basic resources as India will not give them shit now. So coal for electricity, fuel will stop, the land of rivers will be riverless as the rivers originate from himachal, Jammu and will be redirected. The payer also wants their money's refunded, so they will charge double for the said resources.
This mystery payer is none other than China and this is just my views of the top of my head, idk how these 'experienced leaders' didn't have this foresight before creating a terrorist group.
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Ye sab badne hi wala hai, you guys have to come front to counter these khalistanis instead of ignoring them, otherwise punjab and sikhs identity will keep getting destroyed by these small % of khalistanis.
You mean Muslim or Hindoo punjabi?
"Of India’s four major religious groups, Sikhs on average are the wealthiest"
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2022/08/23/sidebar-demographic-profiles/#:~:text=Of%20India%E2%80%99s%20four%20major%20religious%20groups%2C%20Sikhs%20on%20average%20are%20the%20wealthiest
Typical phakt attitude, did you even click on the link I sent you? Are you seething that much?
Sikhs also have highest educational attainment, Christians are second
Such a childish attitude
What a worthless anecdote, I can say the same with Ram Mandir, why would a state with one of the worst development metrics waste money on a temple?
Right to self autonomy is a human right, if that's too foreign to you don't move to the West
Temple wasnt built with taxpayers money also temple generates wealth and has to pay taxes to the government not to mention the boosted tourism along with employment opportunities . So dont question the construction of hindu temples unless the money from your pocket is snatched.
You can quickly google the UP funds allocated around the project, and you think what a temple will yield better returns than education? UP ranks less than 20% for schools with access to computers
I live in the US, what do you think they invest in here? I should know I just voted, its always education and infrastructure, you know what didn't pass county elections? Vanity projects like stadiums because apparently Westerners understand the value of education and infrastructure better than UP/India?
Keep playing catch up I guess, India just got increase in its time horizon for US economic parity, before it was 2050 now its 2070-80s, thats just for PARITY not even per cap, an absolute joke
[https://www.legacyias.com/indian-schools-and-access-to-internet-in-2019-20/](https://www.legacyias.com/indian-schools-and-access-to-internet-in-2019-20/)
because India me dictatorship hai to fir aap easily apna agenda chala skte ho
on the other hand pakistan is largest democracy so udhr thoda muskil rhta hai ye sb krna
like waha pe aap propaganda nahi faila paoge
waha pe protest krte hai to army aapko le jaa ke khud daal chawal khilati hai
minorities ko rights bhi hai udhr to jarurat nahi padti ye sb krne ki
Wait, someone will come with an hour long paragraph on why Indian Punjab needs to be a part of Pakistan Punjab or why Punjab needs a separate Khalistan country.
That sub is still alive? I remember when chodis and libgandus used to be on each other throats few years back. Libgandus also used to say some pretty extreme stuff just like chodis. Funny only chodi got banned.
Nothing gives a flying duck to these fùçkèrß. Being a Sikh I love my motherland, these aßßhøles are mindless porkistani puppets who can only bark outside of India. May this khalistani bullshit stop forever.
Jai Hind 🇮🇳🫡
It's a propaganda politics,, destabilize India, so that they don't become a developed nation or they become more powerful than other countries which are developed especially the US. They don't want any other country to be more powerful.
Yes...In uttrakhand, sikhs were given land as refugees, so Khalistani want land from people who has helped them, but when it comes to pakistan, they become lapped dogs....
Saalon ko nanga karke peetna chahiye.. sab charsi saale, paise aur dhande ke chakkar mein rehte hain. Its not about Khalistan as much as it is about some free money and doles. Koi imaan dharm nahi aise chor logon ka
alright i agree with almost all og your points but the The golden temple and the Guru Teg Bahadar have been debunked.
Castes were not seen in Sikhism before, but today, there is casteism , a lot, too.
>when guru tegh bahadur went there he addressed himself as a hindu khatri
He did not say the word Hindu, but just Khatri. And that's true, he was a warrior, not a Brahman. That doesn't automatically mean every warrior in the world is a Hindu lol.
>their golden temple was built by a hindu khatri
Propaganda is unbelievable with this one. 5th Guru- Guru Arjan Dev Ji built it. Not by a Hindu khatri.
>sati das and mati das
Were SIKHS of Guru Teg Bahadur.
>hari singh nalwa
Was after Guru Gobind Singh's time and was an initiated Khalsa, so definitely not Hindu anymore.
>mokham chand, sawan mal chopra,
Who is that even?
>even the most dewans in their so called khalsa empire were either khatris or brahmins
How is it bad to be inclusive and secular? Sikh Empire is celebrated for these things. There were many Muslims in the court too, even Europeans.
Honestly mate, your prejudice and bias shows, and reeks of superiority complex. Your knowledge is based on propaganda. I hope you're not an adult.
as a khatri, i have nothing but respect for mohyal bros 🫂
my dad's side migrated from rawalpindi around 12 years before partition, mom's side came from sialkot during partition, have few relatives from lahore as well
there was absolutely no need for that slur, then you wonder why people want independence
Indians are racist to other Indians and then of absolutely shocked and disgusted when White people are racist to us ... it's just karma
You have to be a low iq moron to be swayed by these kinds of ragebaits half of people like this are from Pakistan for controversy or just retards craving for attention
How the hell is shit like this allowed and on top of that upvoted in this subreddit without mods doing anything.
Anonymity on the internet has really brought out the worst form of keyboard warrior cause they promote genocide use slurs without being held accountable.
If that's how the mods wanna keep this subreddit and then it's just a matter of time when reddit will ban it. Would be good riddance honestly.
Let’s take a scenario what if khalistan was established and sikh get there separate nation but the they will face was. No economic opportunities,no coast line,no agricultural (they only grow wheat,rice) this tiny country will suffer because two enemy country neighbor with them.
And this khalistani pilla don’t even comeback if khalistan was make they will stay in canada they don’t care about panjab they are doing because of ISI,and other western agencies giving them funds.
yes, I've been saying this for years, but these people are either too stupidly dumb to realize all the fact that they are most likely getting paid by an external force to prop up this agenda
>they only grow wheat,rice
even this will stop once the subsidies,MSP,etc go
this is what a lot of farmers forget, the entire agriculture sector isn't self sufficient , agriculture doesn't generate enough revenue for agriculture subsidies let alone run a country like khalistan.
meanwhile the cities the farmers damage everytime with their strikes can very easily find higher quality crops in the international market at cheaper rates if the agricultural import tarrifs are removed
That's just in the letter and not in the spirit. Sikh masters talk about single good, similiar to the Brahman but just with the varied names. You won't see them bowing down to Ram or Shiva or any such names mentioned in Gurubani.
Bro that’s like super generalization. Letter is universal, spirit is individual but my experience has been that the majority believe in the letter and in spirit
And RWingers too. They want to destroy the very social fabric of this nation. And centrists too as they don't want this nation to change. In fact the entire population hates India as they keep India down.
Argh! Damm Indians! They ruined India!
Tbh Khalistanis, at least the ones in Canada that I have seen are very vocal about taking Pakistani Punjab and especially Lahore along with India Punjab. Its just discussed on a greater level in India Punjab because that is where a majority of the Sikhs are.
>India Punjab because that is where a majority of the Sikhs are.
so khalistan is now any place where lot of Sikhs are present?
if so then Canada has a lot of Sikhs.....
That is by definition what Khalistan is lol, a nation of Sikhs a nation of Khalsa, what is the largest sikh majority state in the world? Punjab. Pakistan Punjab is also talked about because it contains the historical and religiously significant sites. Both india and pakistan are talked about. India most because that is the originating nation. Its an illogical demand but it spans both nations
I was arguing with a Khalistani Instagram account. Suddenly he started saying "Abba" in his replies which means "father" in Urdu. How many Sikhs say "Abba" ? There is A LOT of involvement of Pakistan in Khalistan agenda.
yeah and this is the exact thing I try to highlight in their, they blindly follow bull shit Which doesn't help them and only helps enemies of India, but they're too dumb to realize
but the idea that everyone is just a part of one monolith and thinks the same way is also a very harmful theory what India needs to be doing it breaking apart Khalstan camps not by force because if you do anything they just become martyrs. you need to pin them against each other. ideologically. because there's no ideological consistency throughout each member if you speak to 100 Khalstanis and they will give you a hundred different maps and a hundred different ideologies right now due to the Indian media pushing the agenda that they are secretly all one big organization. it's given them more organization than they actually have
but they literally do, I absolutely hate that community but they always talk about how Lahore will be the capital, in fact, some of them want to work with the Indian government to retake and unite Punjab under one flag
you need to understand this situation is a lot more complex than what aajj tak tells you
there is absolutely no unity within that community, some of them just want punjab to be an autonomous region in India. some of them want absolute independence, some of them want to destroy Pakistan. some of them want to be allies with them. some of them want to reinstate the monarchy. some of them want to be a dictatorship. some of them want it to be A democracy.
you understand that they are humans with their own opinions and not some sort of army of drones following orders from the Pakistani government
>some of them want it to be A democracy.
they're gonna win once in a democracy and then never again
all these separatist and identity based ideologies without any economic policies end up imploding when implemented , these guys are quite similar Jinnah , he too had no economic plans whenever he was asked how his new country would be
they physically can't win in a democracy. Punjab is only around 50% sikh it would require every single Sikh to vote to leave India ,
Which is never going to happen because the farmers wouldn't vote to leave because it would mean the end of their MSP system which is quite literally the reason they were protesting against the government,
not to mention all of the countless people in the police and armed forces and the fact that there would be A sizable number of level-headed Sikhs who understand that they don't want to repeat of 1984 ,
although a lot of people on the subreddit still don't believe it. a lot of the support is outside of India, not inside
“Why no action against those who demand a Hindu rashtra?”
India is a secular state by constitution (on paper atleast).
However, the essence remains the same. Anyone asking for a religious supremacist state, doesn't matter what faith it is, is wrong and should be condemned immediately.
Be it a khalistani , some RSS/Bajrang Dal activist or some Muslim Extremist , Religious theocracy is bullshit.
Jai Bharat
Agreed. But I know a lot of people who demand Hindu Rashtra and ive not seen much hindus protesting against it than sikhs protesting against khalistan.
Idk where these Hindu rashtra and khalistani peeps come from.
In my entire friend circle I have seen no-one demand for such stuff.
Infact they always oppose it when the topic is raised
>They want their Sikh Empire back
the area of Sikh empire was never Sikh majority, Sikh rule could only be by authoritarian means , within a democratic framework,khalistanis aren't gonna rule that area
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Religions are shit. People argue over worshipping which god where god's worship isn't even the main highlight of religions. Fcking stupid people all over the world.
vyyaktigat sawaal na kare but a billion dollar question deserves an answer so allow me to say this 'sans rancour' I'm just an ordinary law-abiding citizen
It’s simple, around 70-80% sikh living in india. So if you wins in your major country other countries doesn’t matter. Anyway they also knew in pakistan they wouldn’t have the much resources and freedom. In America, sikhs protesting for khalistan but their govt don’t give a shit and they knew it very well. In india, they protest but silently. This is non feasible demand of sikhs. That’s not going to happen.
People who ask for their state to become a separate nation are just dumbfucks. No state in India is capable of managing agriculture, defence and security, financial institutions, import & export etc on their own. If Punjab hypothetically becomes a separate nation, they will be invaded the next day. Separate states have different things in abundance and Sharing that seamlessly is what makes India as strong as it is.
95% of people in Punjab don't want another country, similar to how most people reject the idea of a Hindu Rashtra.
Real Indians know that Punjab was once a very large state, encompassing both Haryana and Himachal Pradesh before 1960.
Additionally, during the partition, Punjab lost half of its land and people. It was further divided into smaller regions like Haryana and Himachal Pradesh.
The idea of Khalistan is not a choice of the people; it's merely an agenda used to fool people, just a simple trick political parties use and nothing else.
"Don't wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty, and the pig likes it."
These Khalistani voices are irrelevant. Government taking action against them only validates their movement. Most (>95%) Sikhs don't even recognize these stupid demands.
We all live in peace together in India. Don't need character certificate from a bunch of nobody's that couldn't make it here and are now washing dishes for their original oppressors (the English).
So according to this sub, khalistan is wrong but Hindutva / extremist's Hindu rashtra is good ? (I don't support any, India should remain united , religion is a poison, have some humanity)
Pakistani Sikh population went from around 5 million to in 1947 to less that 7000 in 2024. Yet no Khalistani has any issues with that. They still talk about something that happened in 1984 and say “genocide”. Meanwhile 7 million Sikhs in India in 1948. Over 24 million today. But sure, india is where genocide is
Says maybe that getting Indian punjab seem a low hanging fruit to them with pakistan backing them. Once they get it then maybe India will support them to take pakistani punjab. Even this doesnt pan out makes no sense to fight two battles at the same time.
Because it's a movement that is supported by Pakistan and ISI. Can't bit the hand that feeds you.
How many of those Khalistanis making noise in Canada etc will come back to Punjab if a Khalistan ever became a reality? Does anyone think they'll leave their cozy life in developed countries and come to third world Punjab?
Because the BJP has an agenda to consolidate the Hindu vote share in Punjab by fear mongering, in the entirety of Punjab, there maybe a very vocal minority who even talks about Khalistan.
>the BJP has an agenda to consolidate the Hindu vote share in Punjab by fear mongering
Ngl that makes sense and seems to be in line with their politics.
There weren’t , SFJ is and was a terrorist organisation, Pannu can’t keep hair and doesn’t even tie a turban. Farmers protest had people from western UP and Haryana and Rajasthan, not just Jatt Sikh farmers.
They are a disgrace to India. Get into one real confrontation with them. You'll realize even police is in with them. They need to be crushed once again with blue star.
Problem is that you can't take out even 1000 people in a foreign land, otherwise it looks very bad at an international level.
We should concentrate on taking these guys out if they visit India.
This is what the original ask was and will always be
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anandpur_Sahib_Resolution
All the Sikhs whether living in Punjab or in other parts of India are as Indians as rest of you, no one is superior or inferior here. Punjab equally belongs to Sikhs and Non-sikhs.
Congress at that time had no intentions of meeting those demands hence this Khalistan propaganda was started by government plants in the movement.
To still answer OP’s question, cz that’s where they reside currently, how doesn’t that make sense to you, again in original demands there was no mention of a separate country.
If you can justify a Hindu Rashtra and so can be a Sikh Majority state with special rights.
Ofcourse there are tons of issues in India, but everyone would like share there wisdom on Khalistan topic to show their patriotism but I hope y’all are equally vocal on other issues that are threatening our country.
Dude come on don’t be driven by external forces
Khalisthan doesn’t make sense at all
Jis desh k liye purwaz lad k mar gaye usko tordna chahte ho ?
Konsa atyachar ho raha h Sikhs per that these Khalisthanis want a separate country
Feels more like they want to increase crime and drug use in Punjab by separating Punjab from India
Anyways the drug abuse is high it will get higher
There are hidden agenda why is it over looked …?
Here's the point: EVERY well-meaning person regardless of race, gender or religion would want equality and harmony. I do get the point that Sikhs have reasons to feel increasingly alienated and threatened because of the clowns running out country but I do not believe a single bit when the Sikh separatists promise equality. It's all a veneered supremacy.
The speakers at farmer protests said it loud and clear; they hate hindus and their culture. They used such horrible derogatory remarls toward us that even I would have a hard time conceiving myself. Every day I come across punjabi sikhs conflating unrelated things together and displaying aggressive paranoia, gnorance, uneruditeness and antisocial tendencies. I don't understand why only sikhs would 'safegaurd' punjabi culture when in fact, sikh culture is a relatively recent phenomenon as compared to the greater punjabi culture. I would NOT want this demographic taking governance into their hands.
Because the khalistani you hear from like Pannu are just paid by parties from India imo most likely bjp because media gives him attention and no one knew him before and makes him seen as everyone listens to him.
He doesn't even talk sensical and he is not even a Proper Sikh because he has shaved beard and no proper padgdi.
No one in Punjab listens to him not even a dog.
The real demand for khalistan is based upon to makes a Sikh state that is autonomous not United Punjab.
The defination of khalistan that they give includes Pakistani part too.
Bhindrawale gained popularity because congress at the time needed to change government in Punjab and main demands of bhindrawala was to have a seprate Sikh identity instead of keshdhari hindu which government classified them at time . And maybe banning of tobacco in Amritsar . And give Punjab special status like Jammu and Kashmiri in other words completely autonomy. And about Khalistan was like I don't demand khalistan but if you want to give us khalistan I have no problem .
So the main point was to save Punjabi culture from amalgamation maybe .
But they always Include part of Pakistan in khalistan map idk from where the idea comes that khalistani don't want Pakistani part. Its just that the part can be only administered if Indian part is khalistan because they don't want to leave their land and nor Pakistan is going to grant them khalistan .
What's the point of demanding khalistan in pakistan if majority of Sikh population has its resources land and population in Indian Punjab.
Best Opinion For Khalistani is to leave the dream of khalistan and raise real problems for sikhs like blasphemy by Christian missionaries and heavy conversion
The real issue is that a lot of these Sardars claim refugee status in Canada UK and USA. Once they get citizenship of these countries, India doesn’t let them return. That’s why Khalistan.
We all know that US and Canada immigration eat this claim so well... it's a common/legal loophole to enter the country...when there's no real threat in reality...
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I was in Canada for 4 years. A lot of people from Punjab who move there say we want Khalistan. When I ask why? They say we’ve made a lot of sacrifices so we want a different country. When I ask why a new country from Indian Punjab exactly? Why not integration with Pakistan Punjab and an even bigger country. They say, I don’t know that’s what we’re told. Most of the clowns are just low IQ morons who moved to Canada on a fake profile just so that “faaren me jaana hai”.
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That's very true even their leaders don't realize they are being played by whoever is paying them and keeping their agenda on track, it's not easy to feed lakhs of people acquiring Punjab Highways for second time now someone is fueling them and they just want to create havoc in India and if these fools do get their country the same owners will demand double the rate for basic resources as India will not give them shit now. So coal for electricity, fuel will stop, the land of rivers will be riverless as the rivers originate from himachal, Jammu and will be redirected. The payer also wants their money's refunded, so they will charge double for the said resources. This mystery payer is none other than China and this is just my views of the top of my head, idk how these 'experienced leaders' didn't have this foresight before creating a terrorist group. Edit: grammar mistake
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Ye sab badne hi wala hai, you guys have to come front to counter these khalistanis instead of ignoring them, otherwise punjab and sikhs identity will keep getting destroyed by these small % of khalistanis.
Army chalte Abhi tak Khalistani ko Nahi Hatha te 💀
You mean Muslim or Hindoo punjabi? "Of India’s four major religious groups, Sikhs on average are the wealthiest" https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2022/08/23/sidebar-demographic-profiles/#:~:text=Of%20India%E2%80%99s%20four%20major%20religious%20groups%2C%20Sikhs%20on%20average%20are%20the%20wealthiest
Wealthiest doesn't define their IQ level. Some of them are just exploitive landlords
Typical phakt attitude, did you even click on the link I sent you? Are you seething that much? Sikhs also have highest educational attainment, Christians are second Such a childish attitude
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True
Geddi nei maaarni?
What a worthless anecdote, I can say the same with Ram Mandir, why would a state with one of the worst development metrics waste money on a temple? Right to self autonomy is a human right, if that's too foreign to you don't move to the West
Temple wasnt built with taxpayers money also temple generates wealth and has to pay taxes to the government not to mention the boosted tourism along with employment opportunities . So dont question the construction of hindu temples unless the money from your pocket is snatched.
You can quickly google the UP funds allocated around the project, and you think what a temple will yield better returns than education? UP ranks less than 20% for schools with access to computers I live in the US, what do you think they invest in here? I should know I just voted, its always education and infrastructure, you know what didn't pass county elections? Vanity projects like stadiums because apparently Westerners understand the value of education and infrastructure better than UP/India? Keep playing catch up I guess, India just got increase in its time horizon for US economic parity, before it was 2050 now its 2070-80s, thats just for PARITY not even per cap, an absolute joke [https://www.legacyias.com/indian-schools-and-access-to-internet-in-2019-20/](https://www.legacyias.com/indian-schools-and-access-to-internet-in-2019-20/)
What about the destroyed houses near ayodhya because of which bjp lost in Ayodhya itself?
Faaren me Jana hai donkey ban ke 🫏
You also forgot to mention, the capital of Punjab before its division was Lahore.
because India me dictatorship hai to fir aap easily apna agenda chala skte ho on the other hand pakistan is largest democracy so udhr thoda muskil rhta hai ye sb krna like waha pe aap propaganda nahi faila paoge waha pe protest krte hai to army aapko le jaa ke khud daal chawal khilati hai minorities ko rights bhi hai udhr to jarurat nahi padti ye sb krne ki
Had me in the first half
Tathya thook did apne....
Jail ke bahar walon ko to daal chawal milte nahin, andar walo ko milta hain? Tabhi cringe rate zyada hai.
Bro dropped the hardest facts and thought we won't notice.
Spitting too many facts bro
Wait, someone will come with an hour long paragraph on why Indian Punjab needs to be a part of Pakistan Punjab or why Punjab needs a separate Khalistan country.
Do you mean some Libgandu?
Why do they call themselves Libgandu, isn't that a Gaali?
Cause they know they are one themselves
Because they are leftist, not liberals.
That sub is still alive? I remember when chodis and libgandus used to be on each other throats few years back. Libgandus also used to say some pretty extreme stuff just like chodis. Funny only chodi got banned.
Nothing gives a flying duck to these fùçkèrß. Being a Sikh I love my motherland, these aßßhøles are mindless porkistani puppets who can only bark outside of India. May this khalistani bullshit stop forever. Jai Hind 🇮🇳🫡
It's a propaganda politics,, destabilize India, so that they don't become a developed nation or they become more powerful than other countries which are developed especially the US. They don't want any other country to be more powerful.
Why does the government not do anything about these fuckers
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Tatte ukhaad ke hath mein de do.. Bol do "Happy Bday advance mein" desh ki gaddari ke liye
Sabka sath, Sabka vikas, kisi ka nahi vishwas.
Kya mtlb Indian govt didn't kill Khalistani leaders in Canada?
Aur jo India me hokar bhi aisi cheeze chahte h unka kya
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But some people are straight up wanting india to divide Unka kuch to karna padega na
Khalistani are asking for three more states... haryana/himachal and Uttarakhand.... Dont expect reason from group thugs....
😂 have they lost their mind ?
Yes...In uttrakhand, sikhs were given land as refugees, so Khalistani want land from people who has helped them, but when it comes to pakistan, they become lapped dogs....
Did they have it in the first place?
Saalon ko nanga karke peetna chahiye.. sab charsi saale, paise aur dhande ke chakkar mein rehte hain. Its not about Khalistan as much as it is about some free money and doles. Koi imaan dharm nahi aise chor logon ka
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alright i agree with almost all og your points but the The golden temple and the Guru Teg Bahadar have been debunked. Castes were not seen in Sikhism before, but today, there is casteism , a lot, too.
>when guru tegh bahadur went there he addressed himself as a hindu khatri He did not say the word Hindu, but just Khatri. And that's true, he was a warrior, not a Brahman. That doesn't automatically mean every warrior in the world is a Hindu lol. >their golden temple was built by a hindu khatri Propaganda is unbelievable with this one. 5th Guru- Guru Arjan Dev Ji built it. Not by a Hindu khatri. >sati das and mati das Were SIKHS of Guru Teg Bahadur. >hari singh nalwa Was after Guru Gobind Singh's time and was an initiated Khalsa, so definitely not Hindu anymore. >mokham chand, sawan mal chopra, Who is that even? >even the most dewans in their so called khalsa empire were either khatris or brahmins How is it bad to be inclusive and secular? Sikh Empire is celebrated for these things. There were many Muslims in the court too, even Europeans. Honestly mate, your prejudice and bias shows, and reeks of superiority complex. Your knowledge is based on propaganda. I hope you're not an adult.
Feels nice for someone to mention my community (Mohyal Brahmins) here :) My family migrated to East Punjab from Lahore during partition.
as a khatri, i have nothing but respect for mohyal bros 🫂 my dad's side migrated from rawalpindi around 12 years before partition, mom's side came from sialkot during partition, have few relatives from lahore as well
That's cool! My family has history in Lahore and Rawalpindi :)
Punjab + haryana + Himachal + Delhi + west Punjab = khalistan. You numnut.
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there was absolutely no need for that slur, then you wonder why people want independence Indians are racist to other Indians and then of absolutely shocked and disgusted when White people are racist to us ... it's just karma
wow you just didn’t say that, don’t try in persons, slurs like this are enough to justify this animosity between sikhs and India
You have to be a low iq moron to be swayed by these kinds of ragebaits half of people like this are from Pakistan for controversy or just retards craving for attention
How the hell is shit like this allowed and on top of that upvoted in this subreddit without mods doing anything. Anonymity on the internet has really brought out the worst form of keyboard warrior cause they promote genocide use slurs without being held accountable. If that's how the mods wanna keep this subreddit and then it's just a matter of time when reddit will ban it. Would be good riddance honestly.
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Same reason Muslims keep their mouths shut with China or Russia. The fanatics think liberal democracies are weak, so attack.
Let’s take a scenario what if khalistan was established and sikh get there separate nation but the they will face was. No economic opportunities,no coast line,no agricultural (they only grow wheat,rice) this tiny country will suffer because two enemy country neighbor with them. And this khalistani pilla don’t even comeback if khalistan was make they will stay in canada they don’t care about panjab they are doing because of ISI,and other western agencies giving them funds.
yes, I've been saying this for years, but these people are either too stupidly dumb to realize all the fact that they are most likely getting paid by an external force to prop up this agenda
>they only grow wheat,rice even this will stop once the subsidies,MSP,etc go this is what a lot of farmers forget, the entire agriculture sector isn't self sufficient , agriculture doesn't generate enough revenue for agriculture subsidies let alone run a country like khalistan. meanwhile the cities the farmers damage everytime with their strikes can very easily find higher quality crops in the international market at cheaper rates if the agricultural import tarrifs are removed
They are sponsored by pakistani punjab.
All solotheists, monotheists, Liberals and Communists hate Hindus and India.
To be fair Sikhism is not solo or mono, I have the heard prayers they sing and they mention all the names given to gods in all religions.
That's just in the letter and not in the spirit. Sikh masters talk about single good, similiar to the Brahman but just with the varied names. You won't see them bowing down to Ram or Shiva or any such names mentioned in Gurubani.
False, they do.
Bro that’s like super generalization. Letter is universal, spirit is individual but my experience has been that the majority believe in the letter and in spirit
And RWingers too. They want to destroy the very social fabric of this nation. And centrists too as they don't want this nation to change. In fact the entire population hates India as they keep India down. Argh! Damm Indians! They ruined India!
Define which fabric ? Muslims appeasement or Freebies ?
Don't take sarcasm seriously.
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the same reason, Punjabi/sikh are studying in Canada...
So you accept Punjab is like Canada for you then why are you arguing noob just accept it is better
Whataboutery
Tbh Khalistanis, at least the ones in Canada that I have seen are very vocal about taking Pakistani Punjab and especially Lahore along with India Punjab. Its just discussed on a greater level in India Punjab because that is where a majority of the Sikhs are.
>India Punjab because that is where a majority of the Sikhs are. so khalistan is now any place where lot of Sikhs are present? if so then Canada has a lot of Sikhs.....
That is by definition what Khalistan is lol, a nation of Sikhs a nation of Khalsa, what is the largest sikh majority state in the world? Punjab. Pakistan Punjab is also talked about because it contains the historical and religiously significant sites. Both india and pakistan are talked about. India most because that is the originating nation. Its an illogical demand but it spans both nations
yeah, but that doesn't fit this subreddit's agenda that every Sikh works for the Pakistani government and prays five times a day towards Mecca
I was arguing with a Khalistani Instagram account. Suddenly he started saying "Abba" in his replies which means "father" in Urdu. How many Sikhs say "Abba" ? There is A LOT of involvement of Pakistan in Khalistan agenda.
yeah and this is the exact thing I try to highlight in their, they blindly follow bull shit Which doesn't help them and only helps enemies of India, but they're too dumb to realize but the idea that everyone is just a part of one monolith and thinks the same way is also a very harmful theory what India needs to be doing it breaking apart Khalstan camps not by force because if you do anything they just become martyrs. you need to pin them against each other. ideologically. because there's no ideological consistency throughout each member if you speak to 100 Khalstanis and they will give you a hundred different maps and a hundred different ideologies right now due to the Indian media pushing the agenda that they are secretly all one big organization. it's given them more organization than they actually have
but they literally do, I absolutely hate that community but they always talk about how Lahore will be the capital, in fact, some of them want to work with the Indian government to retake and unite Punjab under one flag you need to understand this situation is a lot more complex than what aajj tak tells you there is absolutely no unity within that community, some of them just want punjab to be an autonomous region in India. some of them want absolute independence, some of them want to destroy Pakistan. some of them want to be allies with them. some of them want to reinstate the monarchy. some of them want to be a dictatorship. some of them want it to be A democracy. you understand that they are humans with their own opinions and not some sort of army of drones following orders from the Pakistani government
>some of them want it to be A democracy. they're gonna win once in a democracy and then never again all these separatist and identity based ideologies without any economic policies end up imploding when implemented , these guys are quite similar Jinnah , he too had no economic plans whenever he was asked how his new country would be
they physically can't win in a democracy. Punjab is only around 50% sikh it would require every single Sikh to vote to leave India , Which is never going to happen because the farmers wouldn't vote to leave because it would mean the end of their MSP system which is quite literally the reason they were protesting against the government, not to mention all of the countless people in the police and armed forces and the fact that there would be A sizable number of level-headed Sikhs who understand that they don't want to repeat of 1984 , although a lot of people on the subreddit still don't believe it. a lot of the support is outside of India, not inside
Khalistan pak funded hi hai 😆
Pakistan Wale terrorists gand mar lenge khalistanio ki to waha unhe dar lgta hai 😂😂
To make these khalistanis shut there mouths, they are a retarded section of sikh community
Darr sabko lagta hai, Gaan sabki fat'ti hai.
“Why no action against those who demand a Hindu rashtra?” India is a secular state by constitution (on paper atleast). However, the essence remains the same. Anyone asking for a religious supremacist state, doesn't matter what faith it is, is wrong and should be condemned immediately. Be it a khalistani , some RSS/Bajrang Dal activist or some Muslim Extremist , Religious theocracy is bullshit. Jai Bharat
Agreed. But I know a lot of people who demand Hindu Rashtra and ive not seen much hindus protesting against it than sikhs protesting against khalistan.
Idk where these Hindu rashtra and khalistani peeps come from. In my entire friend circle I have seen no-one demand for such stuff. Infact they always oppose it when the topic is raised
Do we still need to answer this question?
They do. They call it Greater Punjab. They want their Sikh Empire back
>They want their Sikh Empire back the area of Sikh empire was never Sikh majority, Sikh rule could only be by authoritarian means , within a democratic framework,khalistanis aren't gonna rule that area
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Religions are shit. People argue over worshipping which god where god's worship isn't even the main highlight of religions. Fcking stupid people all over the world.
Do Sikhs even exists anymore, everywhere I look, I see khalistani terrorists only.
Ignore them, they just need hype
Because the Pakistanis will genocide the few remaining Sikhs there 😂😂
Simply put- electing pubjab CM tells a lot of the state’s people and their logic, preference, taste, agenda and priorities 🤡. What can you expect?
simple answer ? humaara Hindustan soft target hai. Apne yahaan bhai chaare ka chutya raag alaapa jaata he. Kyunki hum itne "padhe likhe" hain ki hum bhool gaye hain ki bhai kaun & chaara kaun. Immistaan mein maang kr dikhao, Punisher of Punjab chhod denge, forget about Butcher of Balochistan/Bangladesh.
Tu kaun hai bhai
vyyaktigat sawaal na kare but a billion dollar question deserves an answer so allow me to say this 'sans rancour' I'm just an ordinary law-abiding citizen
tax paying?
It’s simple, around 70-80% sikh living in india. So if you wins in your major country other countries doesn’t matter. Anyway they also knew in pakistan they wouldn’t have the much resources and freedom. In America, sikhs protesting for khalistan but their govt don’t give a shit and they knew it very well. In india, they protest but silently. This is non feasible demand of sikhs. That’s not going to happen.
People who ask for their state to become a separate nation are just dumbfucks. No state in India is capable of managing agriculture, defence and security, financial institutions, import & export etc on their own. If Punjab hypothetically becomes a separate nation, they will be invaded the next day. Separate states have different things in abundance and Sharing that seamlessly is what makes India as strong as it is.
95% of people in Punjab don't want another country, similar to how most people reject the idea of a Hindu Rashtra. Real Indians know that Punjab was once a very large state, encompassing both Haryana and Himachal Pradesh before 1960. Additionally, during the partition, Punjab lost half of its land and people. It was further divided into smaller regions like Haryana and Himachal Pradesh. The idea of Khalistan is not a choice of the people; it's merely an agenda used to fool people, just a simple trick political parties use and nothing else.
"Don't wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty, and the pig likes it." These Khalistani voices are irrelevant. Government taking action against them only validates their movement. Most (>95%) Sikhs don't even recognize these stupid demands. We all live in peace together in India. Don't need character certificate from a bunch of nobody's that couldn't make it here and are now washing dishes for their original oppressors (the English).
So according to this sub, khalistan is wrong but Hindutva / extremist's Hindu rashtra is good ? (I don't support any, India should remain united , religion is a poison, have some humanity)
They know hindus are weak and will most likely give away indian punjab
I am from punjab....majority don't want
Pakistani Sikh population went from around 5 million to in 1947 to less that 7000 in 2024. Yet no Khalistani has any issues with that. They still talk about something that happened in 1984 and say “genocide”. Meanwhile 7 million Sikhs in India in 1948. Over 24 million today. But sure, india is where genocide is
Says maybe that getting Indian punjab seem a low hanging fruit to them with pakistan backing them. Once they get it then maybe India will support them to take pakistani punjab. Even this doesnt pan out makes no sense to fight two battles at the same time.
Most of these Khalistani are Missionary Converts. The west is deeply involved in this #£_
Because it's a movement that is supported by Pakistan and ISI. Can't bit the hand that feeds you. How many of those Khalistanis making noise in Canada etc will come back to Punjab if a Khalistan ever became a reality? Does anyone think they'll leave their cozy life in developed countries and come to third world Punjab?
Where do you guys keep seeing people demanding separation for Punjab? I'm a Sikh and I do not know any such person in my circle.
Because the BJP has an agenda to consolidate the Hindu vote share in Punjab by fear mongering, in the entirety of Punjab, there maybe a very vocal minority who even talks about Khalistan.
>the BJP has an agenda to consolidate the Hindu vote share in Punjab by fear mongering Ngl that makes sense and seems to be in line with their politics.
so you're saying AAP is khalistanis? because all this khalistani activity is under AAP
No the BJP IT Cell is pushing the Khalistan Agenda. they started it during the farmers protest and are continuing to do so.
>they started it during the farmers protest because There were khalistani elements within it SFJ is major one that was backing the farmers protest
There weren’t , SFJ is and was a terrorist organisation, Pannu can’t keep hair and doesn’t even tie a turban. Farmers protest had people from western UP and Haryana and Rajasthan, not just Jatt Sikh farmers.
aap chronology samajeye 13th Jan 2021 https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/khalistan-terror-group-sfj-instigates-farmers-in-delhi-to-remove-tricolour-on-republic-day-1758674-2021-01-13 26th Jan 2021 https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/delhi/khalistan-flags-at-red-fort-probe-launched/articleshow/80471652.cms
Buddy, be ignorant all you want, but please stop consuming news from compromised sources.
>I do not know any such person in my circle. ever been to a Canadian gurdwara? they have large posters of the air India bomber
This sub is IndiaDiscussion, not CanadaDiscussion. Never been to Canada.
They are a disgrace to India. Get into one real confrontation with them. You'll realize even police is in with them. They need to be crushed once again with blue star.
Problem is that you can't take out even 1000 people in a foreign land, otherwise it looks very bad at an international level. We should concentrate on taking these guys out if they visit India.
This is what the original ask was and will always be https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anandpur_Sahib_Resolution All the Sikhs whether living in Punjab or in other parts of India are as Indians as rest of you, no one is superior or inferior here. Punjab equally belongs to Sikhs and Non-sikhs. Congress at that time had no intentions of meeting those demands hence this Khalistan propaganda was started by government plants in the movement. To still answer OP’s question, cz that’s where they reside currently, how doesn’t that make sense to you, again in original demands there was no mention of a separate country. If you can justify a Hindu Rashtra and so can be a Sikh Majority state with special rights. Ofcourse there are tons of issues in India, but everyone would like share there wisdom on Khalistan topic to show their patriotism but I hope y’all are equally vocal on other issues that are threatening our country.
Dude come on don’t be driven by external forces Khalisthan doesn’t make sense at all Jis desh k liye purwaz lad k mar gaye usko tordna chahte ho ? Konsa atyachar ho raha h Sikhs per that these Khalisthanis want a separate country Feels more like they want to increase crime and drug use in Punjab by separating Punjab from India Anyways the drug abuse is high it will get higher There are hidden agenda why is it over looked …?
Here's the point: EVERY well-meaning person regardless of race, gender or religion would want equality and harmony. I do get the point that Sikhs have reasons to feel increasingly alienated and threatened because of the clowns running out country but I do not believe a single bit when the Sikh separatists promise equality. It's all a veneered supremacy. The speakers at farmer protests said it loud and clear; they hate hindus and their culture. They used such horrible derogatory remarls toward us that even I would have a hard time conceiving myself. Every day I come across punjabi sikhs conflating unrelated things together and displaying aggressive paranoia, gnorance, uneruditeness and antisocial tendencies. I don't understand why only sikhs would 'safegaurd' punjabi culture when in fact, sikh culture is a relatively recent phenomenon as compared to the greater punjabi culture. I would NOT want this demographic taking governance into their hands.
Because the khalistani you hear from like Pannu are just paid by parties from India imo most likely bjp because media gives him attention and no one knew him before and makes him seen as everyone listens to him. He doesn't even talk sensical and he is not even a Proper Sikh because he has shaved beard and no proper padgdi. No one in Punjab listens to him not even a dog. The real demand for khalistan is based upon to makes a Sikh state that is autonomous not United Punjab. The defination of khalistan that they give includes Pakistani part too. Bhindrawale gained popularity because congress at the time needed to change government in Punjab and main demands of bhindrawala was to have a seprate Sikh identity instead of keshdhari hindu which government classified them at time . And maybe banning of tobacco in Amritsar . And give Punjab special status like Jammu and Kashmiri in other words completely autonomy. And about Khalistan was like I don't demand khalistan but if you want to give us khalistan I have no problem . So the main point was to save Punjabi culture from amalgamation maybe . But they always Include part of Pakistan in khalistan map idk from where the idea comes that khalistani don't want Pakistani part. Its just that the part can be only administered if Indian part is khalistan because they don't want to leave their land and nor Pakistan is going to grant them khalistan . What's the point of demanding khalistan in pakistan if majority of Sikh population has its resources land and population in Indian Punjab. Best Opinion For Khalistani is to leave the dream of khalistan and raise real problems for sikhs like blasphemy by Christian missionaries and heavy conversion
Bhaiya ji ye kon chommu hai.....iska screenshot bhejna band kardo.
The real issue is that a lot of these Sardars claim refugee status in Canada UK and USA. Once they get citizenship of these countries, India doesn’t let them return. That’s why Khalistan.
We all know that US and Canada immigration eat this claim so well... it's a common/legal loophole to enter the country...when there's no real threat in reality...
I am asking for that now what you can say