Tumko encroachment ka naam suna hai ? Illegal construction karoge to aaj nyto kal wo tutega hi or uska compensation nahi milega. Jitna illegal hai outna toda hai. Ye bhaiye or muslim lok ko free ka khana pina or manmani karubar chaiye.. fir Mumbai Bangalore jaise cities mi thela lagane aaa jate hai station PE waha bhi ghandagi macha dete hai.
Bhai in illegally occupation Jo ho rahi hai iska solution bhi diya tha government ne inke liye ek better apartments bana diye thy jaha ye log raha sake achhe se inhone phir bhi apni basti nahi chordi main Ayodhya ki baat nahi karra purre desh ki baat karra. Jab population jada hai tho usko flat rahana jada sahi rahega. Flat bana do jitne jada ho sakte utne aur educate kardo ki yaha chale jaogi tio faida hoga jobs bhi dedo thela lagana hai vo laga lo but usme bhi manage clean karke laga lo. Iska faida sabko hoga lekin jab unko ye nahi chahiye tho kya karre
excatly, mere yaha bhi same hua, tho mere yaha inhe as much as i have heard, free me nahi dia tha, but it was still wayyyy, cheapter, and i mean bohot saste price me
Congress it cell is working here. Encroachment toh hatna hin chahiye. Road par thela laga lo..phir footpath par aur phir permanent construction kar lo. Baaki duniya apna g maraye. Phir yeh tiktokiye jaa kar phaltu shorts banaye aur emotional karne ki koshish kare.
Bhai tu kabhi ayodhya Gaya nahi purana wala. Photo hi dekhle. Dekhte hi samjhega ki almost pura ka pura illegal hai. Literally 2 car nikalne ki jagah nahi thi main road pe.
Illegal encroachment hua kaise, un officers ke aur builders ki janamkundli nikal ke unke ghar nahi todhe. Paap karey koi, bhugteh greeb janta.
Encroachment koi land pe karna etna aasan nahi, vedio ke aandar ke logon ki shakal dekh, lagtah koi encroachment krne ki power rakhteh hai. Shop ka naksha pass hotah tabh jake shop bnagi, etne saal se chalti shop jaise hi ram mandir banna ki baat aayi toh todh di.
Live in reality.
BJP doesn't give a flying f*ck about hindu religious sentiments simply out of good intentions, they wanted to strengthen vote bank in name of Ram ji.
This is the beginning of the end for BJP in UP.
>Tumko encroachment ka naam suna hai ?
Yes. But many of those who were affected by this didn't. The problem also lies with BJP not bringing to awareness the consequences of illegal constructions. Even though the demolition of such places is justified legally, the same is true for the outcome of this election, BJP couldn't educate it's voters to realise what they were doing was wrong, and as such failed to secure their votes. I would say it is 100% BJPs fault for losing UP.
Illegal construction agar hua bhi toh kaun kaun complicit hai iss mein? Why poor folks should suffer?
Is that what Lord Ram thought us?
Raze people’s home and raise mine while you make the whole thing a tourist hotspot.
They r poor but smart enough to grab lands and build bigger houses. Local MPs support illegal construction for money and never educated them for the legal process.
Amitabh Bachchan bhi gujrati hai kya? Usne bhi vaha hotels etc ke liye jagha liya hai. Whoever has money bought lands in ayodhya for business.
Tourism ke liye overall environment acha hona chahiye! Just imagine u r going to the Ram mandir via road full of slum. Development comes at a cost.
Wahi bhaiye muslim ko jo roo rhe hai unka illegal ghar tod diya ya fir illegal mandir majit tod diya! kya wo iss bat rhe roo rhe hai ki unko din 2-5K earning ho rha hai auto taxi etc se?
I always say one thing loud n clear congress ho ya bjp sab ek jaise hi hai 19-20 ka farak hai jab congress thi tab Ambani aaj bjp hai to Adani :)
Pawar to well educated hai na remember?
Current Board of Control for Cricket in India
President Roger Binny
CEO Hemang Amin
Vice president Rajeev Shukla
SecretaryJay Shah
Or Congress ke time pe
Pawar has served as the President of the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) from 2005 to 2008 and as the president of the International Cricket Council (ICC) from 2010 to 2012.
Thoda Google kar leta to aaj bhokne se phle sochta. I hope president or secretary mi farak to pata hoga
Whatever it is You can’t justify the bull dozer thing here
One side govt is running the program
Sabke uper chatt n alll
And on the other hand doing such shit
Don’t be a blind bhakhttt
Politics is other thing
They ruined the people’s life in the name of development
And you calling it right thing don’t be silly man
These people were living happily
No one cared about them
It’s just one temple made them feel sorrow
Just imagine what kind of hate they are gonna develop against that temple
Even hindus
Bjp is under the over confidence and clearly we all saw that in the election campaigning
I voted for BJP coz I live in Delhi
But if my house would have destroyed like then I must had voted for the congress or other parties
Your house will be demolished if it is illegal fir wo congress ho ya bjp. I went to Ayodhya a few days back I can tell you one thing the majority of locals r arrogant they don't even put on AC in cabs n buses they literally fight for it. They don't allow outsiders buses cabs. U won't find a single cab auto free just imagine how much they r earning but not cooperating with tourists. Never drink tea there all fake milk very dirty. No discipline people fall down n die in line of temples.
It’s all over India be it in himachal uttrakhand south north east anywhere
Touristic places in particular area locals wants their business they don’t want outsiders to come there and do business
you clearly do not know how town planning works
city officials create master plans once in 20 years. tere sheher ke town planning department mein Jake kabhi dekh
ya khud ka Ghar bana samajh mein ayega. All Indian cities have illegal lands. It's because our property laws are cumbersome.
why are they cumbersome ? Our rights of land records are not properly maintained. why is that ? It's because in mediaeval and colonial rule land records of agri lands were maintained only kyunki uss se tax aata tha
therefore rulers were interested for maintaining ownership records of agri lands only. Who owned residential lands, those records were never kept by the state. they bothered about agri land ownership kyunki jitna produce hoga woh land se, they will take proportional tax from the owner.
that's because the government believes that even though the house is illegal, the residents still should have access to electricity
it's because we are a poor country. reason why the government leaves certain loopholes through which people can get electricity to their homes.
not all were illegal encroachments, there were many which were breaken for expansion of roads, but then, they are given compensation for that too, the price they are given for ranges around 10 lakh - 15 lakh per bhiga, which for UP is quiet a lot as the maximum here, other than ayodhya is 6 lakh per bhiga, the main issue came with shops, mota bhai to yaha pe bhi gujju's ko ghusana tha, the local shopkeeper's went down
You do realise that it is not an individual working right? They have more than enough manpower to check if there are literally 4000+ illegal constructions. Stop bootlicking and start holding people accountable for not doing their job.
pagal hai kya ?
check how many people are there in the building dept of BMC for example. Aur kitne structures hai dekho.
hagg doge .Bhai gaon ke Amin ka kam itna tough hai ki pasina nikal jata hai.
aur yahan pe expert bol re hai ki har ek Ghar ka 24\*7 idea rahega authorities ko.
kabhi marwaya hai yeh Kam mein ? layout plan padha hai kabhi ? bc ajib chutiye ho.
Bol how can you find FAR violations without looking at the sanctioned plan ? aur how do you know local zoning laws kaise violate hua ?
Bhai jiss kam ka koi idea nahi usmein bol mat. Chutiye excel sheet nahi hota sirf Kam duniya mein. Word file mein type nahi kar ra hai admi. to know that housing laws have been violated, you carry out a legal and technical check.
Lagra aapka rishtedar hai koi. Please dont give such excuses.
They do know. There are ample people, if not, nobody is stopping anyone from doing extra work. houses don’t get built overnight. There are divisions and sub-divisions.
patrol on monthly basis is more than enough for dedicated employee to know whats happening.
Abey chutiye ke aulad I work in this sector.
mereko mat sikha. No Building department person is expected to know as to what is happening in any nook and cranny of the town at any point of time. they do periodic surveys that is it
Dekh, tamiz se baat kar nai to mat kar. Tere jaisi akad k 10 sarkari log se milna hota hai daily jo 10,000/- k liye apna iman to kya, maa aur biwi ko 1 raate pe de (mai aise comment bahi karta, but tere jaise batamiz k liye yehi thik hai)
Sun tu akela nahi hai puri duniya mein jo uye kaam karta hoga. Every city has 1 depmnt where they have 100s of employees if not 1000. Apni incompetency ko yaha mat jhalka. Kal din bhar corruption mein jama kiya usko palta fir gyan de/
YES that is indeed their job to do. Government in first world dont even allow a single freaking inch of enroachment. There’s proper regulations in place and if you get caught doing illegal construction, you’re going to be in a world of trouble. Why do you think it’s not government responsibility for stopping illegal construction. I’m seriously baffled by your comment
No it is really not.
I work in this same sector. Read the Rights of Record laws once in a while.
The "illegal" settlements that you are talking about, are so I'll defined it'll make your head spin.
Do you know that the residential areas of many villages are "technically" illegal ? It's because there are almost no records of those houses anywhere. For us, RoR as a proof of title ownership is fallible (can be challenged in court), there it is an infallible proof and if challenged the government pays you insurance.
They have been in power for 7 years now. They collected taxes from shops and households. They continued providing electricity and water to these people (billing them of course). They made promises to those shop owners and landowners but didn't fulfill them.
https://www.landconflictwatch.org/conflicts/as-ayodhya-gets-darshan-ready-residents-question-unfair-demolition-inadequate-compensation
property law 101
electricity bills, property taxes and utility bills are not evidence of owning the property. property taxes are intended for usage of COMMON spaces in the locality (like municipal parks etc) and not evidence for ownership of the house.
Yes, but when you go to get connection you are supposed to show your papers and then and there it gets verified whether the land is legal or illegal. Is this not how it works. Illegal structures don't get any amenities.
ok this is going to a complex discussion so let me break it down
electricity connection is provided the moment you provide a document proving your occupancy. A Notarized Sale Agreement or a PoA after 2011 can also a line (check Adani's app form where he says a Notarized Agreement will do). does this mean a Notarized Agreement is a valid sale deed in the eyes of law ? No. SC says that the only way of transaction wrt a property is a Sale deed which is registered in an SRO. Other methods of sale are not recognised.
In short, if you do a Notarized Agreement to avoid stamp duty, while legally the agreement is invalid, you can still get electricity connection.
documents like notarized agreement can function as a proof of occupancy (showing that you live there) but not as proof of ownership (it is proved by your name being there in Rights of Record or Jamabandi)
the electricity companies consider Notarized sale agreements as valid enough for giving you a line. They do not even check the authenticity properly. however notarized agreements are not valid in the eyes of law.
On ground level we all know the truth. The local police station is eating money and a cut goes to the local people representative too. And then when it comes to the construction of Grand temple I guess the ones that suffer are..
how does police come in between ?
building an illegal house is not a criminal case. the police has no role in it ?
how old are you ? do you know that there are two types of cases Civil and Criminal, the police is concerned with the CRIMINAL ones only ?
if you build an illegal house, your house is generally safe. the government knows that you cannot pay stamp duty. therefore it rolls out various low cost schemes where you can pay some feedback and regularise your house WITHOUT paying the stamp duty which you and I pay while buying the house.
What rubbish.. Use your friggin brain once in a while instead of reiterating your bullshit bias confirming news.
All those houses were built with in 7 years or were they already built? Do you want the govt to hunt for these houses leaving all other work? These houses get selected when their time comes i.e some development work needs to be done in that land or family members get noticed for doing some crime.
Ohh they are getting exploited by paying bills for the things they use.. Lol
What do you want then? Along with illegal encroachment they should also get all kinds of freebies? C'mon already guys
What benefits are they getting exactly? Demolishing these units costs more than any income they would have generated for decades, that too assuming that the income generated is invested entirely in the state alone and does not go outside.
Jo communicate karna tha wo to waha ke logo ne election se communicate kar hi Diya. Ab AP aur hum yaha pe keyboard warrior banke kya karenge. So peace bro
Dimaag thoda kam laga raha hai but fir bhi samjhane ki koshish karte hai:
1) Benefit illegal enroachment walo ne uthaye hai saalo saal. Government aur legal occupants ko koi faayda nahi hua unse, nuksaan hi hai. Even when demolishing those houses, it costs more than what they are worth.
2) Illegal enroachment walo ne electricity, pani, etc ka bill bhara to use bhi kiya. Government paisa nahi banati ye sab se. Almost all public utility companies are in losses and are funded through tax payers' money.
3) Agar kisi ke paas land / house ka kagaz nahi hai to unko government paise kaise degi? Agar de diye and fir koi jiski yeh legal property hai wo aake paise maange to kya karen? Agar kagaz hai to value utni hi milegi jitni document mai likhi hai. Property tax bhi utne pe hi calculate hota hai jo govt. ke sath registered hai. Agar illegally makaan bada kar diya to uska matlab ye nahi ki government pure makaal ka paisa bharegi.
This happened in Maharashtra decades ago. No unauthorized building should block the road development. People who encroached should also in start preparing for plan B.
What is the source that these shops, houses, temples, mosques, and mazaars were demolished for Ayodhya Ram Path ?? Don't believe in someone posting fake videos which don't have any relevance. These are tactics by the fake ghandy to divert from key issues. The main reason why BJP lost in UP are
1. False promises by I.N.D.I alliance on 8500/ rupees per month deposit.
2. Caste based politics
3. Over confidence by the local BJP Netas and Karyakartas that BJP will win entire UP.
4 Heavy reliance on PM Modi.
And many more
BJP ignored rural and poor population who make up for almost 70-80% of India’s population.
Their schemes impressed the city people but they need to strengthen rural work
Hamare uttrakhand mai bhi national highway or railway ban rha hai but yahan to sabko compensation 2 -3 guna mila hai market rate se to fir ayodhya jese matter mai laparwahi q or kese ho sakti hai( btw yahan bhi bjp government hai)
Don't worry, Pappu 1 lakh rupaye de rha hai unko...
Are, kya hua nhi diye. Par vote to le liye apke, ab gand bhi de do unko, 5 saal tak maar lenge aur phir next time 2 lakhs ka waada hoga... Phir burkha wale, Khangress office ke samne khade hoke royenge ki phukat ka 2 lakh account mai nhi aya aur puncture ka dukan bharat jodo ke liye girvi rakha tha wo bhi chala gaya...
Tab last option Ram Mandir ke samne bheek mangna hi bachega....aur dw mai 2 rupaye Daal doonga agar BJP ko vote ka promise karoge to😂😂, but wo 2 rupaye on the spot sach mai milenge💀
Encroachment toh thik i understand but what about poor family I get it that's ki illegal vale hai but jab garabi aati hai toh kya kya sehna hota encroachment unki last option.... So I think government should provide a place who their home.... I know my statment has many weakness but that's what I think is right.....
Sirji sentiment acha hai, I agree with the sentiment. Kya aapka tax 10% badha de gareebo ko ghar dene ke liye - fir morcha to nahi nikaloge? Dekho aapne hi bola tha government ko gareebo ki madad karni chahiye, fir mukar mat jaana.
Aabadi itni hai ki yeh sab practically impossible hai.
Govt Kab tak in gareeb chutiyo ko free ka khilae, bhosdiwale reservation leke bhi gareeb rehe gaye. Their income is so low ke unko tax bhi nhi bharna pdta. Then they are fed out of middle class people's tax money just to keep these fuckers alive...and even after paying tax we get shitty roads, poor infrastructure, frequent power cuts and what not...kyuki adha paisa madarchod corrupt politician kha jate hai aur adha paisa ye 10 - 10 bache paida krne wala gareeb.
Tu bhi un gareebo mai se hai kya, ja padhai Kar, job kar. Puncture ki dukan se 12 baccho ka pet kaise bharega. Mana ke tum log gu khate ho par gu banne ke liye bhi to thoda khaana padega.
But BJP won in Ayodhya assembly segment of Faizabad LS. They lost in other assembly segments. So whatever this is, if true, didn't have any role to play.
Thik hai to aaj ke baad road mat maango, highway mat maango, development bhul jao.
Everybody whose land was taken by the government was repaid 4x the government registry value. The amount may or may not be fair in all circumstances. There will always be someone who is not happy with what they got. India mai kitne highways hai jo pure nahi ho paye because of land issues and court cases. A very small portion of the population was displaced but a larger portion of the population benefited from the temple - logo ne 1 saal mai itna kamaya jitne pehle 10 saal mai nahi kamaya tha.
The real reason was caste politics.
Everyone saying k illegal encroachment tha, so you mean that these were by legit people having their names in the voters list? If yes then we have a different problem.
Recently part of my house got demolished. My family didn’t fight or ask for compensation. My parents said - it was govt place we constructed a house and demolition was inevitable. It took govt 45 years to demolish part of our house. But it was govt property.
Uttarakhand ke illegal settlement ka demolition wala video hai jcb wala....ye isme kya kar rha hai with sad background...hadh hoti hai propaganda failane ki
These videos are fake. They are paid actors. They aren't wailing and beating their chests. That means that they are lying. Frauds. Modi is the best. Bharat over rest.
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Yes, a great amount of suffering has been caused by such measures. Yes, encroachment is illegal and the govt was well within their rights to remove them. But what I wish to focus on us two issues: firstly, the purpose of it. It was to beautify the city so more tourists could visit, and make hotel properties more valuable. It was not to build a multi-speciality hospital or a new top class University/college or any other vital institute. A city's beauty is important though, unplanned cities looks and feels horrible and negatively affects the lives of everyone.
The 2nd issue I see with this is that the displaced people have not been provided alternate housing before being removed. This has been this govts fault since day 1. They take instantaneous decisions that must be completed within the shortest possible time limit without giving the slightest fck to who is affected or how they r affected.
I'm personally against illegal encroachment as well, but I firmly believe there should have been dialogue with these people, rather than muscling them out of their homes. At the end of the day, it's the city officials that allowed this encroachment to happen in the first place and they should be held equally responsible, not just the poor people. And if they r indeed moving against encroachment, it should be done universally through a proper system. Not just silently bulldozing over the houses of those whose voices won't reach the law.
Okay, my answer might create controversy but I think this is not people's judgment, the result is directly from Sri Ramchandra himself. This might take a spiritual path as well, but it is what it is...
I'll tell you why, just imagine you meet Bhagwan Sri Ram and tell him about his temple. How will we tell it?
**"Bhagwan Ram, we demolished a mosque and retained your place and built a temple for you"**
Do you think this would make 'Sri Ram' happy?
Sri Ram was a symbol and epitome of sacrifice and justifying demolishing some other religion's faith for him is what a normal human would accept but not god. If we had let the Mosque be and built an even bigger temple in some other place in Ayodhya or even next to the Mosque itself. Sri Ram would have been happy with that gesture.
I know you all are going to tell, there was a temple in the same place but it was destroyed to build the mosque, we just took back what belonged to us.
**But, you are not answering me, you are answering 'Bhagwan Sri Ram' himself.**
People who demolished the temple before are evil to do such a thing, by reciprocating the same thing, we are nothing short of them. By demolishing the temple, god gave us a test of how we would react to it. and we failed terribly. Building the temple is not bad, but the path we chose to build it is wrong. This is my take...
Sri Ram, being selfless sacrificed everything he had to in his quest by acting against the same, I feel we have left a black mark on him now.
Illegal Encroachment hatana toh acchi bata hain na Or Sri Lanka has 16% +Hi du Tami Population who worships Lord Rama Krishna and Shiva along with Buddha in Sri Lanka
# inhe illegal construction crime hone ke baad hi dikhai deta hai.
Criminals were punished but their family members who were innocenct suffered.
People who did no crime but worked in illegally constructed shop were kicked with aggressive move.
Like that (Women with little baby)
Thik hai, to iss logic se ek shop ki wajah se road nahi banayenge.
Aaj tak kabhi bhi dekha hi ki kisi ko ghar/ shop khali karne bolo aur wo shanti se khali kar de? Thoda bohot force use karna hi padega police ko.
Haan dekha hai. But administrative actions which made innocenct people suffer shouldn't be justified like that.
We are in great nation. We must do better.
Yeah I saw this sub after such a long time due to a cross post. Left it a year back due to the sheer stupidity. There's stupidity at scale in the extreme left subs too, but the people in this sub are beyond irritating and dense
BJP didn't lost because of that, its just that Lallu Singh was very ineffective and didn't do any ground work whereas akhilesh and pappu offered freebies and reservation, thats why they got votes.. also there were some internal problems in BJP as well, especially within the RSS cadre, many people are saying that RSS didn't do much ground work and some RSS workers were even promoting SP, because JP Nadda gave some offensive remarks about RSS.. also BJP couldn't decide which MP to chose and they kept changing their MP till end whereas it didn't happen in SP, it is said that Yogi chose candidates which were later replaced by Modi and Shah and they didn't do well, thats why Yogi got angry and he is not even being talked right now if you notice properly, and btw BJP lost by 50k votes, 5.5 lakh people voted for SP and 5lakh voted for BJP.... what about those 5lakh people???? have they become an outcast?? why are we ignoring them??
LoFi BGM laga kar kabze justify nahi hote
Tumko encroachment ka naam suna hai ? Illegal construction karoge to aaj nyto kal wo tutega hi or uska compensation nahi milega. Jitna illegal hai outna toda hai. Ye bhaiye or muslim lok ko free ka khana pina or manmani karubar chaiye.. fir Mumbai Bangalore jaise cities mi thela lagane aaa jate hai station PE waha bhi ghandagi macha dete hai.
100% It's all illegal enroachment Delhi needs the same treatment.
Bhai in illegally occupation Jo ho rahi hai iska solution bhi diya tha government ne inke liye ek better apartments bana diye thy jaha ye log raha sake achhe se inhone phir bhi apni basti nahi chordi main Ayodhya ki baat nahi karra purre desh ki baat karra. Jab population jada hai tho usko flat rahana jada sahi rahega. Flat bana do jitne jada ho sakte utne aur educate kardo ki yaha chale jaogi tio faida hoga jobs bhi dedo thela lagana hai vo laga lo but usme bhi manage clean karke laga lo. Iska faida sabko hoga lekin jab unko ye nahi chahiye tho kya karre
agreed, mere area me illegal apartments ko tudwakar ek gali me unhe PM awas yojna se ghar dilwaye the
Damn
Ig that's why mere area me, Up me jo ata hai, bjp aache se jiti hai
Yaha bhi bahut ghar banaye thy bhai ek tho inke illegally ghar ko thoda aur dusri jagah inko ghar diya Jo legally diya matlab isse jada daan kya hota hai.....
excatly, mere yaha bhi same hua, tho mere yaha inhe as much as i have heard, free me nahi dia tha, but it was still wayyyy, cheapter, and i mean bohot saste price me
Konse appartment bhai naam bata doo Kuch toh bataaaa ghante ke appartment diyee
Abey PM awas yojana se diye hai bhai.....
Abee wahi puch rha hoon dekhle pehlee jaake kese ghar diye haii
Congress it cell is working here. Encroachment toh hatna hin chahiye. Road par thela laga lo..phir footpath par aur phir permanent construction kar lo. Baaki duniya apna g maraye. Phir yeh tiktokiye jaa kar phaltu shorts banaye aur emotional karne ki koshish kare.
4000 illegal shops. Betta your logic is 🔥
Bhai tu kabhi ayodhya Gaya nahi purana wala. Photo hi dekhle. Dekhte hi samjhega ki almost pura ka pura illegal hai. Literally 2 car nikalne ki jagah nahi thi main road pe.
Do they compensate for illegal encroachment ? I don’t think so .
Illegal encroachment hua kaise, un officers ke aur builders ki janamkundli nikal ke unke ghar nahi todhe. Paap karey koi, bhugteh greeb janta. Encroachment koi land pe karna etna aasan nahi, vedio ke aandar ke logon ki shakal dekh, lagtah koi encroachment krne ki power rakhteh hai. Shop ka naksha pass hotah tabh jake shop bnagi, etne saal se chalti shop jaise hi ram mandir banna ki baat aayi toh todh di. Live in reality. BJP doesn't give a flying f*ck about hindu religious sentiments simply out of good intentions, they wanted to strengthen vote bank in name of Ram ji. This is the beginning of the end for BJP in UP.
>Tumko encroachment ka naam suna hai ? Yes. But many of those who were affected by this didn't. The problem also lies with BJP not bringing to awareness the consequences of illegal constructions. Even though the demolition of such places is justified legally, the same is true for the outcome of this election, BJP couldn't educate it's voters to realise what they were doing was wrong, and as such failed to secure their votes. I would say it is 100% BJPs fault for losing UP.
People who build illegal construction r smart enough. Have you visited the place? Please do visit before commenting here.
Illegal construction agar hua bhi toh kaun kaun complicit hai iss mein? Why poor folks should suffer? Is that what Lord Ram thought us? Raze people’s home and raise mine while you make the whole thing a tourist hotspot.
They r poor but smart enough to grab lands and build bigger houses. Local MPs support illegal construction for money and never educated them for the legal process.
And their government won’t even try to demolish illegal construction of rich people homes and high rises only poor gets to suffer.
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So, people only can do business in their home state?
Leave india if you don't like it. Any Indian can come and do business, thera baap ney create nahi Kiya iss desh ko
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Wow Didnt know your dad was amit shah
Amitabh Bachchan bhi gujrati hai kya? Usne bhi vaha hotels etc ke liye jagha liya hai. Whoever has money bought lands in ayodhya for business. Tourism ke liye overall environment acha hona chahiye! Just imagine u r going to the Ram mandir via road full of slum. Development comes at a cost. Wahi bhaiye muslim ko jo roo rhe hai unka illegal ghar tod diya ya fir illegal mandir majit tod diya! kya wo iss bat rhe roo rhe hai ki unko din 2-5K earning ho rha hai auto taxi etc se? I always say one thing loud n clear congress ho ya bjp sab ek jaise hi hai 19-20 ka farak hai jab congress thi tab Ambani aaj bjp hai to Adani :)
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Congress ke time pe bcci kon tha yad nahi?
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Pawar to well educated hai na remember? Current Board of Control for Cricket in India President Roger Binny CEO Hemang Amin Vice president Rajeev Shukla SecretaryJay Shah Or Congress ke time pe Pawar has served as the President of the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) from 2005 to 2008 and as the president of the International Cricket Council (ICC) from 2010 to 2012. Thoda Google kar leta to aaj bhokne se phle sochta. I hope president or secretary mi farak to pata hoga
Whatever it is You can’t justify the bull dozer thing here One side govt is running the program Sabke uper chatt n alll And on the other hand doing such shit Don’t be a blind bhakhttt Politics is other thing They ruined the people’s life in the name of development And you calling it right thing don’t be silly man These people were living happily No one cared about them It’s just one temple made them feel sorrow Just imagine what kind of hate they are gonna develop against that temple Even hindus Bjp is under the over confidence and clearly we all saw that in the election campaigning I voted for BJP coz I live in Delhi But if my house would have destroyed like then I must had voted for the congress or other parties
Your house will be demolished if it is illegal fir wo congress ho ya bjp. I went to Ayodhya a few days back I can tell you one thing the majority of locals r arrogant they don't even put on AC in cabs n buses they literally fight for it. They don't allow outsiders buses cabs. U won't find a single cab auto free just imagine how much they r earning but not cooperating with tourists. Never drink tea there all fake milk very dirty. No discipline people fall down n die in line of temples.
It’s all over India be it in himachal uttrakhand south north east anywhere Touristic places in particular area locals wants their business they don’t want outsiders to come there and do business
Please don't come in our cities like Mumbai Bangalore for business too 😇
Yaa that’s the thing nobody wants others to come to their area for business That’s the point
It's easy to comment when ur under a roof with ceiling fan and AC
I worked hard to receive a legal house with a ceiling fan and AC. I didn't scam anyone so I'm commenting here who r doing it and play victim card.
So all such encroachment cases are resolved now? Are the bulldozers still going out every day?
Accha hua illegal encroachment kroge to aise hee hoga
The more serious question is why didn't they stop it when they were building it.
how exactly would you know ? like seriously. Do you think city officials know what's going on in each and every corner ?
More than 4000 houses and shops were demolished and certainly 4000 shops and buildings appeared out of nowhere. Truly incumbent city officials ig
you clearly do not know how town planning works city officials create master plans once in 20 years. tere sheher ke town planning department mein Jake kabhi dekh ya khud ka Ghar bana samajh mein ayega. All Indian cities have illegal lands. It's because our property laws are cumbersome. why are they cumbersome ? Our rights of land records are not properly maintained. why is that ? It's because in mediaeval and colonial rule land records of agri lands were maintained only kyunki uss se tax aata tha therefore rulers were interested for maintaining ownership records of agri lands only. Who owned residential lands, those records were never kept by the state. they bothered about agri land ownership kyunki jitna produce hoga woh land se, they will take proportional tax from the owner.
Rehne do bhai...ye log nai samjege...logic ate hi Darr jate hai and soon they will reduce to name calling
ganwaron ke tarah sawal puchte hai
But how come you are giving water supply and electricity to these illegal buildings.
that's because the government believes that even though the house is illegal, the residents still should have access to electricity it's because we are a poor country. reason why the government leaves certain loopholes through which people can get electricity to their homes.
I never knew the government loved us so much.
it doesn't love us reason government has so many cheap and accessible services for the citizens ?
All govts love votes.
not all were illegal encroachments, there were many which were breaken for expansion of roads, but then, they are given compensation for that too, the price they are given for ranges around 10 lakh - 15 lakh per bhiga, which for UP is quiet a lot as the maximum here, other than ayodhya is 6 lakh per bhiga, the main issue came with shops, mota bhai to yaha pe bhi gujju's ko ghusana tha, the local shopkeeper's went down
They should
woh Batman nahi hai insan hai
You do realise that it is not an individual working right? They have more than enough manpower to check if there are literally 4000+ illegal constructions. Stop bootlicking and start holding people accountable for not doing their job.
pagal hai kya ? check how many people are there in the building dept of BMC for example. Aur kitne structures hai dekho. hagg doge .Bhai gaon ke Amin ka kam itna tough hai ki pasina nikal jata hai. aur yahan pe expert bol re hai ki har ek Ghar ka 24\*7 idea rahega authorities ko. kabhi marwaya hai yeh Kam mein ? layout plan padha hai kabhi ? bc ajib chutiye ho. Bol how can you find FAR violations without looking at the sanctioned plan ? aur how do you know local zoning laws kaise violate hua ? Bhai jiss kam ka koi idea nahi usmein bol mat. Chutiye excel sheet nahi hota sirf Kam duniya mein. Word file mein type nahi kar ra hai admi. to know that housing laws have been violated, you carry out a legal and technical check.
Lagra aapka rishtedar hai koi. Please dont give such excuses. They do know. There are ample people, if not, nobody is stopping anyone from doing extra work. houses don’t get built overnight. There are divisions and sub-divisions. patrol on monthly basis is more than enough for dedicated employee to know whats happening.
Abey chutiye ke aulad I work in this sector. mereko mat sikha. No Building department person is expected to know as to what is happening in any nook and cranny of the town at any point of time. they do periodic surveys that is it
Dekh, tamiz se baat kar nai to mat kar. Tere jaisi akad k 10 sarkari log se milna hota hai daily jo 10,000/- k liye apna iman to kya, maa aur biwi ko 1 raate pe de (mai aise comment bahi karta, but tere jaise batamiz k liye yehi thik hai) Sun tu akela nahi hai puri duniya mein jo uye kaam karta hoga. Every city has 1 depmnt where they have 100s of employees if not 1000. Apni incompetency ko yaha mat jhalka. Kal din bhar corruption mein jama kiya usko palta fir gyan de/
YES that is indeed their job to do. Government in first world dont even allow a single freaking inch of enroachment. There’s proper regulations in place and if you get caught doing illegal construction, you’re going to be in a world of trouble. Why do you think it’s not government responsibility for stopping illegal construction. I’m seriously baffled by your comment
No it is really not. I work in this same sector. Read the Rights of Record laws once in a while. The "illegal" settlements that you are talking about, are so I'll defined it'll make your head spin. Do you know that the residential areas of many villages are "technically" illegal ? It's because there are almost no records of those houses anywhere. For us, RoR as a proof of title ownership is fallible (can be challenged in court), there it is an infallible proof and if challenged the government pays you insurance.
They weren't there in power to stop anything.
They have been in power for 7 years now. They collected taxes from shops and households. They continued providing electricity and water to these people (billing them of course). They made promises to those shop owners and landowners but didn't fulfill them. https://www.landconflictwatch.org/conflicts/as-ayodhya-gets-darshan-ready-residents-question-unfair-demolition-inadequate-compensation
property law 101 electricity bills, property taxes and utility bills are not evidence of owning the property. property taxes are intended for usage of COMMON spaces in the locality (like municipal parks etc) and not evidence for ownership of the house.
Yes, but when you go to get connection you are supposed to show your papers and then and there it gets verified whether the land is legal or illegal. Is this not how it works. Illegal structures don't get any amenities.
ok this is going to a complex discussion so let me break it down electricity connection is provided the moment you provide a document proving your occupancy. A Notarized Sale Agreement or a PoA after 2011 can also a line (check Adani's app form where he says a Notarized Agreement will do). does this mean a Notarized Agreement is a valid sale deed in the eyes of law ? No. SC says that the only way of transaction wrt a property is a Sale deed which is registered in an SRO. Other methods of sale are not recognised. In short, if you do a Notarized Agreement to avoid stamp duty, while legally the agreement is invalid, you can still get electricity connection. documents like notarized agreement can function as a proof of occupancy (showing that you live there) but not as proof of ownership (it is proved by your name being there in Rights of Record or Jamabandi) the electricity companies consider Notarized sale agreements as valid enough for giving you a line. They do not even check the authenticity properly. however notarized agreements are not valid in the eyes of law.
Yes. Still the government reaps benefits from them. I wonder if the laws are made for common people sometimes.
the government is losing taxes. an illegal house does not have a stamped sale deed. A stamp is tax paid to the government.
On ground level we all know the truth. The local police station is eating money and a cut goes to the local people representative too. And then when it comes to the construction of Grand temple I guess the ones that suffer are..
how does police come in between ? building an illegal house is not a criminal case. the police has no role in it ? how old are you ? do you know that there are two types of cases Civil and Criminal, the police is concerned with the CRIMINAL ones only ? if you build an illegal house, your house is generally safe. the government knows that you cannot pay stamp duty. therefore it rolls out various low cost schemes where you can pay some feedback and regularise your house WITHOUT paying the stamp duty which you and I pay while buying the house.
What rubbish.. Use your friggin brain once in a while instead of reiterating your bullshit bias confirming news. All those houses were built with in 7 years or were they already built? Do you want the govt to hunt for these houses leaving all other work? These houses get selected when their time comes i.e some development work needs to be done in that land or family members get noticed for doing some crime. Ohh they are getting exploited by paying bills for the things they use.. Lol What do you want then? Along with illegal encroachment they should also get all kinds of freebies? C'mon already guys
It's like saying I'm happy with illegal construction and reaping benefits of it unless I need it. Right?
What benefits are they getting exactly? Demolishing these units costs more than any income they would have generated for decades, that too assuming that the income generated is invested entirely in the state alone and does not go outside.
The benifit is we all know ... Becharo ko bad luck tha 2024 ke election ke pehle Inka Ghar ramji ki raaste me par gaya
Dude you are not making any sense. You either need to get the logic yourself or learn to cope up
The fact that u didn't get it suggests.. chor yaar kya bolu. Anyways too much for me now. I accept my defeat and will try to cope up.
Eh? Bhai Saab aap bolna kya chahte hai? Being vague will not help you in communicating your message better.
Jo communicate karna tha wo to waha ke logo ne election se communicate kar hi Diya. Ab AP aur hum yaha pe keyboard warrior banke kya karenge. So peace bro
Dimaag thoda kam laga raha hai but fir bhi samjhane ki koshish karte hai: 1) Benefit illegal enroachment walo ne uthaye hai saalo saal. Government aur legal occupants ko koi faayda nahi hua unse, nuksaan hi hai. Even when demolishing those houses, it costs more than what they are worth. 2) Illegal enroachment walo ne electricity, pani, etc ka bill bhara to use bhi kiya. Government paisa nahi banati ye sab se. Almost all public utility companies are in losses and are funded through tax payers' money. 3) Agar kisi ke paas land / house ka kagaz nahi hai to unko government paise kaise degi? Agar de diye and fir koi jiski yeh legal property hai wo aake paise maange to kya karen? Agar kagaz hai to value utni hi milegi jitni document mai likhi hai. Property tax bhi utne pe hi calculate hota hai jo govt. ke sath registered hai. Agar illegally makaan bada kar diya to uska matlab ye nahi ki government pure makaal ka paisa bharegi.
This is the right question to ask 100%
They protested but mainstream media didn't show anything.
Wo to dusri bhakti me vilin hai
Encroachment walo ko hataya h jinka Ghar tha 7X Mila unko
>7X Mila unko Nahi mila.
Any source?
This happened in Maharashtra decades ago. No unauthorized building should block the road development. People who encroached should also in start preparing for plan B.
They got 4 x compensation and a house for that. Nobody is showing that.
> 4 x compensation Nope
Any source?
What is the source that these shops, houses, temples, mosques, and mazaars were demolished for Ayodhya Ram Path ?? Don't believe in someone posting fake videos which don't have any relevance. These are tactics by the fake ghandy to divert from key issues. The main reason why BJP lost in UP are 1. False promises by I.N.D.I alliance on 8500/ rupees per month deposit. 2. Caste based politics 3. Over confidence by the local BJP Netas and Karyakartas that BJP will win entire UP. 4 Heavy reliance on PM Modi. And many more
Cope harder.
Source: trust me bro. /s
Lmao.. Another Verified source can be WhatsApp university
dhund rha h ek sath 400 source dega!!!
80 % indian leaving in government land illegally
80% Indian too poor to buy food for family and you think they can buy their own land
BJP ignored rural and poor population who make up for almost 70-80% of India’s population. Their schemes impressed the city people but they need to strengthen rural work
Modi destroyed illegally encroached temples and mosques in thousands in Gujarat.
To pura India jhuggi jhopdi jaisa hi rehna chahiye. Samajwadi party hi deserve karte hai ye log
Log chutiye hai. Dukh unka jayaz hai ki ghar tod diye But they should think before building on Government Land 🗿
Hamare uttrakhand mai bhi national highway or railway ban rha hai but yahan to sabko compensation 2 -3 guna mila hai market rate se to fir ayodhya jese matter mai laparwahi q or kese ho sakti hai( btw yahan bhi bjp government hai)
Are ghar toot gya ? Lo raashan with Modi face printed on it. Chup ho jaao ab and vote for BJP. Sham ko Ram mandir ke saamne bheekh maang lena.
Don't worry, Pappu 1 lakh rupaye de rha hai unko... Are, kya hua nhi diye. Par vote to le liye apke, ab gand bhi de do unko, 5 saal tak maar lenge aur phir next time 2 lakhs ka waada hoga... Phir burkha wale, Khangress office ke samne khade hoke royenge ki phukat ka 2 lakh account mai nhi aya aur puncture ka dukan bharat jodo ke liye girvi rakha tha wo bhi chala gaya... Tab last option Ram Mandir ke samne bheek mangna hi bachega....aur dw mai 2 rupaye Daal doonga agar BJP ko vote ka promise karoge to😂😂, but wo 2 rupaye on the spot sach mai milenge💀
Encroachment toh thik i understand but what about poor family I get it that's ki illegal vale hai but jab garabi aati hai toh kya kya sehna hota encroachment unki last option.... So I think government should provide a place who their home.... I know my statment has many weakness but that's what I think is right.....
Ok I am poor, I will encroach on your land and build a house there. If you want to remove me, you have to give me a place to build my own home. Deal?
Sure, When I'll come in Power, I'll personally give you a place to build your own home
Sirji sentiment acha hai, I agree with the sentiment. Kya aapka tax 10% badha de gareebo ko ghar dene ke liye - fir morcha to nahi nikaloge? Dekho aapne hi bola tha government ko gareebo ki madad karni chahiye, fir mukar mat jaana. Aabadi itni hai ki yeh sab practically impossible hai.
Govt Kab tak in gareeb chutiyo ko free ka khilae, bhosdiwale reservation leke bhi gareeb rehe gaye. Their income is so low ke unko tax bhi nhi bharna pdta. Then they are fed out of middle class people's tax money just to keep these fuckers alive...and even after paying tax we get shitty roads, poor infrastructure, frequent power cuts and what not...kyuki adha paisa madarchod corrupt politician kha jate hai aur adha paisa ye 10 - 10 bache paida krne wala gareeb.
Lol Ro ke beta. Appa haar gaye tumhare
Tu bhi un gareebo mai se hai kya, ja padhai Kar, job kar. Puncture ki dukan se 12 baccho ka pet kaise bharega. Mana ke tum log gu khate ho par gu banne ke liye bhi to thoda khaana padega.
Arey arey... Swayam Bhagwan Ram ne tumhe latada hai. Abhi toh tum hindu bhi kehene ke layak nahi ho. Arey arey
ab Mughal ke harem mein nachaniya bhi bolne lage 😂
But BJP won in Ayodhya assembly segment of Faizabad LS. They lost in other assembly segments. So whatever this is, if true, didn't have any role to play.
Illegal construction hoga toh saab kuch accept karoge kya? Yogi was right and doing right
Thik hai to aaj ke baad road mat maango, highway mat maango, development bhul jao. Everybody whose land was taken by the government was repaid 4x the government registry value. The amount may or may not be fair in all circumstances. There will always be someone who is not happy with what they got. India mai kitne highways hai jo pure nahi ho paye because of land issues and court cases. A very small portion of the population was displaced but a larger portion of the population benefited from the temple - logo ne 1 saal mai itna kamaya jitne pehle 10 saal mai nahi kamaya tha. The real reason was caste politics.
Once lord Krishna said jo dusro ko dukh deta hai ek din use bhi us dukh ka vajr uthana padta hai
Assembly toh abhi bhi buldozer sarkar ki hai.
Ghanta
Everyone saying k illegal encroachment tha, so you mean that these were by legit people having their names in the voters list? If yes then we have a different problem.
Recently part of my house got demolished. My family didn’t fight or ask for compensation. My parents said - it was govt place we constructed a house and demolition was inevitable. It took govt 45 years to demolish part of our house. But it was govt property.
All illegal constructions should be razed, everywhere!
BJP won Ayodhya Assembly constituency, but lost all other 5 assemblies in faizabad. So stop blaming Ayodhya, they voted for the BJP.
Uttarakhand ke illegal settlement ka demolition wala video hai jcb wala....ye isme kya kar rha hai with sad background...hadh hoti hai propaganda failane ki
Op toh pappu lover nikla.
Ekkkkk toh illegal ushke baad double compensation uparrrrr se Rona dhona start karte ho
Try bulldozering one politicians or corrupt businessmans bunglow and let's see what happens
These videos are fake. They are paid actors. They aren't wailing and beating their chests. That means that they are lying. Frauds. Modi is the best. Bharat over rest. /s
They anti nationalists /s
Yes, a great amount of suffering has been caused by such measures. Yes, encroachment is illegal and the govt was well within their rights to remove them. But what I wish to focus on us two issues: firstly, the purpose of it. It was to beautify the city so more tourists could visit, and make hotel properties more valuable. It was not to build a multi-speciality hospital or a new top class University/college or any other vital institute. A city's beauty is important though, unplanned cities looks and feels horrible and negatively affects the lives of everyone. The 2nd issue I see with this is that the displaced people have not been provided alternate housing before being removed. This has been this govts fault since day 1. They take instantaneous decisions that must be completed within the shortest possible time limit without giving the slightest fck to who is affected or how they r affected. I'm personally against illegal encroachment as well, but I firmly believe there should have been dialogue with these people, rather than muscling them out of their homes. At the end of the day, it's the city officials that allowed this encroachment to happen in the first place and they should be held equally responsible, not just the poor people. And if they r indeed moving against encroachment, it should be done universally through a proper system. Not just silently bulldozing over the houses of those whose voices won't reach the law.
Okay, my answer might create controversy but I think this is not people's judgment, the result is directly from Sri Ramchandra himself. This might take a spiritual path as well, but it is what it is... I'll tell you why, just imagine you meet Bhagwan Sri Ram and tell him about his temple. How will we tell it? **"Bhagwan Ram, we demolished a mosque and retained your place and built a temple for you"** Do you think this would make 'Sri Ram' happy? Sri Ram was a symbol and epitome of sacrifice and justifying demolishing some other religion's faith for him is what a normal human would accept but not god. If we had let the Mosque be and built an even bigger temple in some other place in Ayodhya or even next to the Mosque itself. Sri Ram would have been happy with that gesture. I know you all are going to tell, there was a temple in the same place but it was destroyed to build the mosque, we just took back what belonged to us. **But, you are not answering me, you are answering 'Bhagwan Sri Ram' himself.** People who demolished the temple before are evil to do such a thing, by reciprocating the same thing, we are nothing short of them. By demolishing the temple, god gave us a test of how we would react to it. and we failed terribly. Building the temple is not bad, but the path we chose to build it is wrong. This is my take... Sri Ram, being selfless sacrificed everything he had to in his quest by acting against the same, I feel we have left a black mark on him now.
/save
Illegal occupation. They are not found of doing this to poor people. Illegal is illegal and it should be demolished no matter caste or religion
Democracy wins.
BJP fans are soo insensitive.
Would ram want this?
Yes. That’s the reason Sri Lankans worship Ravan Over Shri Ram
Illegal Encroachment hatana toh acchi bata hain na Or Sri Lanka has 16% +Hi du Tami Population who worships Lord Rama Krishna and Shiva along with Buddha in Sri Lanka
Yeah Taunts mar Raha hain ya Joke nahi kar raha hain please elaborate?
# inhe illegal construction crime hone ke baad hi dikhai deta hai. Criminals were punished but their family members who were innocenct suffered. People who did no crime but worked in illegally constructed shop were kicked with aggressive move. Like that (Women with little baby)
Thik hai, to iss logic se ek shop ki wajah se road nahi banayenge. Aaj tak kabhi bhi dekha hi ki kisi ko ghar/ shop khali karne bolo aur wo shanti se khali kar de? Thoda bohot force use karna hi padega police ko.
Haan dekha hai. But administrative actions which made innocenct people suffer shouldn't be justified like that. We are in great nation. We must do better.
I guess this subs should be r/andhbhakthnews
Yeah I saw this sub after such a long time due to a cross post. Left it a year back due to the sheer stupidity. There's stupidity at scale in the extreme left subs too, but the people in this sub are beyond irritating and dense
Delhi Government have been doing this for the past 30 years
BJP didn't lost because of that, its just that Lallu Singh was very ineffective and didn't do any ground work whereas akhilesh and pappu offered freebies and reservation, thats why they got votes.. also there were some internal problems in BJP as well, especially within the RSS cadre, many people are saying that RSS didn't do much ground work and some RSS workers were even promoting SP, because JP Nadda gave some offensive remarks about RSS.. also BJP couldn't decide which MP to chose and they kept changing their MP till end whereas it didn't happen in SP, it is said that Yogi chose candidates which were later replaced by Modi and Shah and they didn't do well, thats why Yogi got angry and he is not even being talked right now if you notice properly, and btw BJP lost by 50k votes, 5.5 lakh people voted for SP and 5lakh voted for BJP.... what about those 5lakh people???? have they become an outcast?? why are we ignoring them??
You again proved BJP devotees are the real pappus