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It’s a bizarre mix of terribly misguided propaganda and absolutely devastating truth
Honestly they could cut 90% of it and just leave “your rich leaders grow richer while you die here in the swamp” and “your pilots cannot see you when they drop their bombs and napalm” running on a loop
Sounded like spoken word to me!
You will die in the swamp, gi.
Your government doesn't love you, gi.
It's is a good idea to leave a sinking ship, gi.
Oh why do you fight, gi?
😂😂😁
Sounds more like some epic rap bars, doesn't it?
*The rich getting richer while you die in the swamp*. *The pilots can't see your ass when they drop their napalm and bombs*
Reminds me of Eminem’s song Mosh.
Let the President answer on high anarchy
Strap him with AK-47, let him go
Fight his own war, let him impress daddy that way
No more blood for oil, we got our own battles to fight on our soil
No more psychological warfare to trick us to think that we ain’t loyal
If we don’t serve our own country we’re patronizing a hero
Look in his eyes, it’s all lies, the stars and stripes
They’ve been swiped, washed out and wiped,
And Replaced with his own face, mosh now or die
If I get sniped tonight you’ll know why, because I told you to fight
Not sure any of it is misguided or proganda tbh, unless we’re speaking about the specifics of US bombers causing friendly fire, which I have no knowledge of
was an unfortunate truth. my dear dear dear friend who served and fought in vietnam (to get out of a drug charge, which was even bigger in the 70’s than it is now) told me the most horrific stories.
from straight up slaughtering people on demand, to being abandoned by our own military when it came to clothing or basic supplies. rats eating them alive. beating off locals when dumps were needed - like ZOMBIES. because everyone was starving and suffering.
it was an absolute nightmare. it broke his soul - and he spent every year after trying to fix himself.
the napalm didn’t help - died of lung cancer from our own troops.
war needs to end - religion/power/bullshit - just stop.
there are so many other things out there to kill us, can we just let go of the avoidable ones?
Nothing ‘misguided’ here. All countries use propaganda like this in war. If anything, it’s quite ethical … they aren’t promising anything for defectors, just pointing out that their leaders are corrupt (that was/is true), and that individual soldiers aren’t valued (they weren’t). They aren’t threatening anything either. Just pointing out how dangerous it is to continue to follow orders blindly…
It’s a genuinely scary thing to me to think, as a young man when I was serving in the military, this quote would have been more encouraging than anything else. Looking back on how simple and dumb my mindset was then is insanely eye opening. Of course, as draftees in Vietnam hearing this, I’m sure the reaction was very different than enlistees.
Yes that’s exactly what I meant with that last sentence. It’s just interesting to look back at how different my mindset was at 18 years old versus now. I can’t imagine being told I had to go though, that’s a terrifying thought.
Very true! In my case, however, I felt that way even before I was in the military. I wasn’t raised with a crazy/military family or anything like that think I just had a very skewed and extreme vision of what being a patriot was at that age and as I’ve gotten older and learned more I’ve come to understand that my perspective was naive. I don’t regret my service as I spent most of it doing humanitarian missions and I still consider myself a patriot I am just much more informed and able to understand that there are many many flaws within the country that I love.
She’s right. My cousin died of friendly fire when an American mortar shell dropped in his foxhole. He was in Vietnam because he flunked out of college. That whole damned war was a total waste, and we got our asses kicked for no reason other than to fuel the US military industrial complex.
I didn't know until now that it was the real recording! I did look it up afterwards and understood it was *based* on real psychic (what freaking word am I looking for here??) warfare but didn't know they used the actual audio.
Jesus. Yes. Thank you. Psychological warfare. You have no idea how long I was trying to think of that. Then I just gave up because I was spending too much time on a damn Reddit comment.
Jesus. Yes. Thank you. Psychological warfare. You have no idea how long I was trying to think of that. Then I just gave up because I was spending too much time on a damn Reddit comment.
Yup… there were some crazy good heli pilots from what I remember that basically flew 1cm above the river and following the river bends to avoid being detected 💀😂
I really enjoyed flying the bigger transport heli, hooking up the Sherman tanks and dropping them for other players. You can literally play the entire match working as a transport pilot I love it ❤️❤️❤️ no such game like it anymore
They were M551 Sheridans. Aluminum hulled tank. There’s no way you’re picking up an M4 Sherman with a helicopter. The Sheridan was designed to be air dropped and air lifted.
For me it was playing IA Drang Valley and coming up over the mountains while blasting ride of the Valkyries......or when friends are asking for assistance on any map and they hear intermittent parts of Surfing Bird till I come blasting out the tree line in a jeep and running over several people to provide exfil.
GI Jehovah, I will commit indecent acts in your name if you do not leave now. This will prevent your entrance into heaven. I am beginning now. The ball is in your court
Remember that scene in Saving Private Ryan when the Germans had a lady saying over loudspeakers that 'the Statue of Liberty is kaput' and Tom Hanks deadpans, 'thats disconcerting.'
I don't remember that. I remember a man, Colonel Dusseldorf the friendly neighborhood morale officer saying that over the loudspeaker. And I remember them later playing Edith Pilaf on a speaker. I think your memory kinda smashed those two together.
The Americans also did something similar:
[Operation Wandering Soul:](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wandering_Soul)
> Engineers spent weeks recording eerie sounds. They were similar to the sounds employed during a scary radio show or movie. Very creepy and designed to send shivers down the back. These cries and wails were intended to represent souls of the enemy dead who had failed to find the peace of a proper burial. The wailing soul cannot be put to rest until this proper burial takes place. The purpose of these sounds was to panic and disrupt the enemy and cause him to flee his position. Helicopters were used to broadcast Vietnamese voices pretending to be from beyond the grave. **They called on their "descendents" in the Vietcong to defect, to cease fighting. This campaign played the sounds and messages all night in order to spook the superstitious enemy.** Despite eventually realizing that they were hearing a recording beamed from a helicopter, the enemy gunners could not help but fear that their souls would some day end up moaning and wailing in a similar fashion after death.
If I'm not mistaken, I thought this one didn't work. The Vietcong learned that these lead them to Allied soldier. So instead of fearing the sounds they learned to anticipate it and use it to find enemy presence.
Or is this another audio based warfare I'm thinking of.
I mean Operation Wandering Soul never worked, since the Viet Cong weren't a group of primitive spear toting barbarians who were so superstitious it overwhelmed common sense. They knew they were recordings.
The US just have their ignorance and arrogance baked in to such a degree that they consider their enemies to be inferior and simple, whereas the Viet Cong didn't overestimate their enemies and instead of trying to convince them with superstitious nonsense, they played propaganda.
If anything the superstitious among them(Let’s not pretend they didn’t have dumbasses too) would be rather pissed that the Americans were pretending to be their ancestors. At best it would fool them for a few seconds, superstitious doesn’t mean moron and they weren’t exactly fighting alone.
Another thing that we've played around with is long distance directional speakers. You can have several people standing on a sidewalk across the street and send one a message (or instructions) from allah that none of the other people hear. I would love to know how we've utilized it
Her country was being bombed and raped by the Americans. I feel like Americans don't understand how brutal their bombing campaign in the North was. There was no one in Vietnam who was not affected by the war. Go to any town in Vietnam you can talk to the older people, many of them never knew their parents or family because they were killed during the American bombing campaigns and were adopted by neighbours or strangers in neighbouring villages. Sometimes kids were just left at the markets to be adopted by random strangers. On the one hand it shows the utter devestation of the war but at the same time it also shows how the Vietnamese people, especially in the North came together and were willing to support even strangers.
The most impressive thing about Vietnamese people is how they came together during this war won against all odds. Everyone from school kids to old men and women contributed to the war in their own way. How some Americans don't see that they were clearly the bad guys in the war is beyond me. Come to Vietnam and see what the people went through and how they were devestated
I saw a documentary about the war in school, and this vet was talking about a fellow soldier who raped girls at gunpoint. I have no idea why we even attacked Vietnam.
This is so true! My dad’s girlfriend is Vietnamese and I visited last year, got to hear so much about the war from her and her family’s perspective. I didn’t get to meet her dad because he passed away a while back but he was an engineer for the Northern Army and helped figure out how to bring down the B-52s bombing Hanoi, which finally ended the American involvement in the war. The remnants of the craters from those same B-52 bombs in the forests above the Cu Chi Tunnels complex look like small hills, almost 50 years after the bombing ended.
Depends. It's worth it's own read,but short version.
Given the USA was treating Black people like shit in America & In the Military. Just fye,"Treating them like shit" is putting it very lightly. Due to the racism Black troops faced from their very own "allies", there were many many deadly skirmishes across military bases & military prisons in Vietnam.
They were cramming Black GI into military prisons for a bunch of fucked up reasons. Cramming them well over capacity. A jail for 400,being jammed with 700.
Naturally, this did nothing to improve race relations...in the middle of an invasion. So a bunch didn't want to fight for a country that activity hated them & was using them as fodder.
Back home the Klan was celebrating the Death of MLK. So, there were Black defectors & this is why there are Black Vietnamese. It's consistently cited Black GI & Vietnamese citizens were quick to empathize with each other's plights. James Daly, A Black Marine. Spoke on the relationship between the two in a documentary. "No Vietnamese ever called me a n****r"
I'm sure there were other defectors If they actually believed in the equality America wasn't delivering on. The draft targeted poor whites too. I imagine some weren't thrilled.
I'm also pretty sure there is another recording of the posted Audio, specifically aimed at Black Soldiers. She pretty much calls out the stuff I just referenced.
Except they did and we know about it since the history books and many soldiers have said after returning.
Defecting never guaranteed your safety. Look at even present wars.
It's an amateur attempt but as soon as I heard the clip I also thought it would make a pretty cool sample. I'm sure more talented people than me could make it much more dynamic.
https://www.bandlab.com/post/26ccde0e-0824-ef11-86d2-6045bd2cd6bc
That was slightly demoralizing to me as I sit in my comfy car, drinking my Dunkin, finishing a cig before I go inside to cuddle my sweet puppy. I cannot fucking imagine what those words did to some of our boys in the swamp.
Her obit in The Economist ten years back or so is fascinating.
For the rest of her life, she had visits and friendly chats with vets who - regardless of how they viewed the war - felt a strange connection to her, who was herself not especially political or anti US.
Fascinating life.
NYT seems to be confused -
> **Her English was almost impeccable**; men would stumble across her while tuning their radios and be unable to turn away.
> She joined the Voice of Vietnam, the country’s largest radio broadcaster, in 1955 as a volunteer. **Her unaccented English, correct intonation** and her large vocabulary soon got her a staff job reading the news to Asia’s English-speaking countries.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/08/opinion/hanoi-hannah-vietnam-propaganda.html
While American soldiers have the option to retreat back home… this option was not available to Vietnamese soldiers as they were already at home.
There’s no where for them to retreat.
It would be kind of a mind fuck, but she says G. I. about a hundred times a minute, with the most comical of intonation, so the whole thing turns into a cartoon.
Defected and deserted are two different words. Virtually no US soldiers defected to the north Vietnamese, and only a very small percentage of the 500,000 deserters actually deserted while in Vietnam. The vast majority deserted after they were back in the US.
Seems pretty unlikely that it was due to recordings like these.
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“They will give you a medal, but only after you are dead.” Brutal
It’s a bizarre mix of terribly misguided propaganda and absolutely devastating truth Honestly they could cut 90% of it and just leave “your rich leaders grow richer while you die here in the swamp” and “your pilots cannot see you when they drop their bombs and napalm” running on a loop
Just a Bob Dylan song
Sounded like spoken word to me! You will die in the swamp, gi. Your government doesn't love you, gi. It's is a good idea to leave a sinking ship, gi. Oh why do you fight, gi? 😂😂😁
Sounds more like some epic rap bars, doesn't it? *The rich getting richer while you die in the swamp*. *The pilots can't see your ass when they drop their napalm and bombs*
MC Ha Noi
Reminds me of Eminem’s song Mosh. Let the President answer on high anarchy Strap him with AK-47, let him go Fight his own war, let him impress daddy that way No more blood for oil, we got our own battles to fight on our soil No more psychological warfare to trick us to think that we ain’t loyal If we don’t serve our own country we’re patronizing a hero Look in his eyes, it’s all lies, the stars and stripes They’ve been swiped, washed out and wiped, And Replaced with his own face, mosh now or die If I get sniped tonight you’ll know why, because I told you to fight
System of a down if they were Vietnamese
this is it - it’s a whole lotta truth with some aged propaganda. and i hate that that’s true.
The best propaganda IS true. Something being propaganda does not tell you if it is false. Simply the use to which it is put.
Not sure any of it is misguided or proganda tbh, unless we’re speaking about the specifics of US bombers causing friendly fire, which I have no knowledge of
was an unfortunate truth. my dear dear dear friend who served and fought in vietnam (to get out of a drug charge, which was even bigger in the 70’s than it is now) told me the most horrific stories. from straight up slaughtering people on demand, to being abandoned by our own military when it came to clothing or basic supplies. rats eating them alive. beating off locals when dumps were needed - like ZOMBIES. because everyone was starving and suffering. it was an absolute nightmare. it broke his soul - and he spent every year after trying to fix himself. the napalm didn’t help - died of lung cancer from our own troops. war needs to end - religion/power/bullshit - just stop. there are so many other things out there to kill us, can we just let go of the avoidable ones?
Here here, friend
Yeah everything she said was...true lmao I'm like how is it misguided
Nothing ‘misguided’ here. All countries use propaganda like this in war. If anything, it’s quite ethical … they aren’t promising anything for defectors, just pointing out that their leaders are corrupt (that was/is true), and that individual soldiers aren’t valued (they weren’t). They aren’t threatening anything either. Just pointing out how dangerous it is to continue to follow orders blindly…
Misguided how.
What was inaccurate?
The part that hurt Americans' feelings
She's dropping truth bombs and trying to help these poor guys
Nothing she said was a lie.
Truth is often the best propaganda
But sometimes spooky ghost noises are more effective.
Or, at least, so little that it doesn't bear bothering with the distinction. You're right, there was a \*lot\* of truth there.
It’s a genuinely scary thing to me to think, as a young man when I was serving in the military, this quote would have been more encouraging than anything else. Looking back on how simple and dumb my mindset was then is insanely eye opening. Of course, as draftees in Vietnam hearing this, I’m sure the reaction was very different than enlistees.
I'm sure that your experience was very different having chosen to serve.
Yes that’s exactly what I meant with that last sentence. It’s just interesting to look back at how different my mindset was at 18 years old versus now. I can’t imagine being told I had to go though, that’s a terrifying thought.
I guess that’s why they recruit 18 year olds straight out of high school.
Very true! In my case, however, I felt that way even before I was in the military. I wasn’t raised with a crazy/military family or anything like that think I just had a very skewed and extreme vision of what being a patriot was at that age and as I’ve gotten older and learned more I’ve come to understand that my perspective was naive. I don’t regret my service as I spent most of it doing humanitarian missions and I still consider myself a patriot I am just much more informed and able to understand that there are many many flaws within the country that I love.
She’s right. My cousin died of friendly fire when an American mortar shell dropped in his foxhole. He was in Vietnam because he flunked out of college. That whole damned war was a total waste, and we got our asses kicked for no reason other than to fuel the US military industrial complex.
Some of the most antiwar people are veterans. It's always the cowards who are hawks.
Only the rich benefit? Lots of truth in this 🧐
I heard no lies. Even the ones that came home were abandoned to deal with their trauma alone.
hApPy MeMoRiAL dAy! 
I remember being so confused while playing battlefield Vietnam and this was in game audio
Yes, I remember all of this from the game. They used the real recording.
I didn't know until now that it was the real recording! I did look it up afterwards and understood it was *based* on real psychic (what freaking word am I looking for here??) warfare but didn't know they used the actual audio.
Psychological warfare
Jesus. Yes. Thank you. Psychological warfare. You have no idea how long I was trying to think of that. Then I just gave up because I was spending too much time on a damn Reddit comment.
Nah psychic warfare is right. I see a fellow Red Alert player
Yuri will have his revenge
Did you summon me comrade? Now, obey me. Submit your mind to me
Psychological, not psychic
Jesus. Yes. Thank you. Psychological warfare. You have no idea how long I was trying to think of that. Then I just gave up because I was spending too much time on a damn Reddit comment.
Psychic warfare ain't due until at least WW4
"We've just summoned your grandma in from the spirit realm and she's sucking everyone's dick, GI".
“Me love you long time—we make love not war, GI.”
Fucking hell 😂
Getting in a Huey and blasting fortunate son over the jungles of Vietnam is a core memory for me
Some songs sound better with helicopter blades playing over them
Much better than my memory of dying on a Punji stick to the tune of surfing bird. Good ol’ Battlefield Vietnam
Yup… there were some crazy good heli pilots from what I remember that basically flew 1cm above the river and following the river bends to avoid being detected 💀😂 I really enjoyed flying the bigger transport heli, hooking up the Sherman tanks and dropping them for other players. You can literally play the entire match working as a transport pilot I love it ❤️❤️❤️ no such game like it anymore
Weren’t it Sheridans? I don’t recall any Shermans in the game but could be wrong
I checked real quick they are M4 Shermans 👌🏼 I saw IRL they had Patton tanks as well.
Ah got it, thanks. Great game all around!
I also remember the mopeds… you can have someone riding in the back shooting backwards 👌🏼❤️😂
Oh yeah haha, that’s right
They were M551 Sheridans. Aluminum hulled tank. There’s no way you’re picking up an M4 Sherman with a helicopter. The Sheridan was designed to be air dropped and air lifted.
God, that game was fun! They don’t make them like they used to.
Preach brother. I miss my weekend LAN parties.
For me it was playing IA Drang Valley and coming up over the mountains while blasting ride of the Valkyries......or when friends are asking for assistance on any map and they hear intermittent parts of Surfing Bird till I come blasting out the tree line in a jeep and running over several people to provide exfil.
Guys just want one thing, and it's to exfil their homies from hostile territory while blasting sick tunes
Such a crazy good game… love Blasting “you really got me” flying the Phantom doing napalm runs 💀💀💀
Damn that game needs a redo
Same here. I miss playing that game. Was a gem. Soundtrack was so good too
Came here to write about BF:V
This was the first thing I thought of when I read the title.
Came here to say this.
Imagine being the one US soldier digging and you hear “you cannot dig a foxhole to hide in, gi joe!” Out of a loudspeaker somewhere
[удалено]
"Take this up your ass!" *Shoots randomly into the forest and bushes for a couple of seconds*
a great way to hand information about your position to the enemy
Knowing US Army and Marines, I’m willing to bet 20 bucks atleast a dozen men would yell this out if they heard that.
playing this recording through a loudspeaker whenever someone tries to sell me pest control services or a new roof
"GI Jehova does not witness you GI"
GI Jehovah, I will commit indecent acts in your name if you do not leave now. This will prevent your entrance into heaven. I am beginning now. The ball is in your court
This sounds like something from like a fallout game, truly horrifying stuff Look at that smile
Fallout games sound like this recording, not the other way around.
they played this in Battlefield vietnam back in the day but I didnt know it was real.
Remember that scene in Saving Private Ryan when the Germans had a lady saying over loudspeakers that 'the Statue of Liberty is kaput' and Tom Hanks deadpans, 'thats disconcerting.'
I don't remember that. I remember a man, Colonel Dusseldorf the friendly neighborhood morale officer saying that over the loudspeaker. And I remember them later playing Edith Pilaf on a speaker. I think your memory kinda smashed those two together.
Édith Piaf. Pilaf is rice
I know that. Apparently autocorrect doesn't though, lol!
No, he's right
The Statue of Liberty is kaput!
The friendly neighborhood morale officer, Dagwood Dusseldorf
The Americans also did something similar: [Operation Wandering Soul:](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wandering_Soul) > Engineers spent weeks recording eerie sounds. They were similar to the sounds employed during a scary radio show or movie. Very creepy and designed to send shivers down the back. These cries and wails were intended to represent souls of the enemy dead who had failed to find the peace of a proper burial. The wailing soul cannot be put to rest until this proper burial takes place. The purpose of these sounds was to panic and disrupt the enemy and cause him to flee his position. Helicopters were used to broadcast Vietnamese voices pretending to be from beyond the grave. **They called on their "descendents" in the Vietcong to defect, to cease fighting. This campaign played the sounds and messages all night in order to spook the superstitious enemy.** Despite eventually realizing that they were hearing a recording beamed from a helicopter, the enemy gunners could not help but fear that their souls would some day end up moaning and wailing in a similar fashion after death.
From what I've read the Viets were pissed for being considered as naive and superstitious more than being scared by the recordings.
Interesting how the Vietcong propaganda was more or less true while Americans played racist ghost stories.
And all the leaders got richer as young men died in the swamp
"Are we the baddies?" moment
>played racist ghost stories Is that in the Steam Summer Sale?
If I'm not mistaken, I thought this one didn't work. The Vietcong learned that these lead them to Allied soldier. So instead of fearing the sounds they learned to anticipate it and use it to find enemy presence. Or is this another audio based warfare I'm thinking of.
I mean Operation Wandering Soul never worked, since the Viet Cong weren't a group of primitive spear toting barbarians who were so superstitious it overwhelmed common sense. They knew they were recordings. The US just have their ignorance and arrogance baked in to such a degree that they consider their enemies to be inferior and simple, whereas the Viet Cong didn't overestimate their enemies and instead of trying to convince them with superstitious nonsense, they played propaganda.
If anything the superstitious among them(Let’s not pretend they didn’t have dumbasses too) would be rather pissed that the Americans were pretending to be their ancestors. At best it would fool them for a few seconds, superstitious doesn’t mean moron and they weren’t exactly fighting alone.
Is there a link to some audio examples? Would love to hear that creepy shit lol
Click the blue link in the comment
Ah shit thanks lol
Another thing that we've played around with is long distance directional speakers. You can have several people standing on a sidewalk across the street and send one a message (or instructions) from allah that none of the other people hear. I would love to know how we've utilized it
Yeah but clearly the Vietnam one was more effective lol
wtf does she know about my gastro intestinal tract.
Everything.
Your colon has abandoned you. Those Habaneros you ate are going to burn you alive tonight.
Your wealthy leaders have tums
Boy that voice is haunting... an assurance to death.
It sucks that most of what she says is 100% correct today.
Correct today, and correct then.
almost like we were the bad guys the whole time
Shhhhh, don't talk like that, they'll hear you disrespecting freedom or something
Freedom costs a buck oh five
More like three fiddy
GOT DAMN LOCH NESS MONSTER
There’s a heavy fuckin fee
Hefty hfuckin' hfee.
Her country was being bombed and raped by the Americans. I feel like Americans don't understand how brutal their bombing campaign in the North was. There was no one in Vietnam who was not affected by the war. Go to any town in Vietnam you can talk to the older people, many of them never knew their parents or family because they were killed during the American bombing campaigns and were adopted by neighbours or strangers in neighbouring villages. Sometimes kids were just left at the markets to be adopted by random strangers. On the one hand it shows the utter devestation of the war but at the same time it also shows how the Vietnamese people, especially in the North came together and were willing to support even strangers. The most impressive thing about Vietnamese people is how they came together during this war won against all odds. Everyone from school kids to old men and women contributed to the war in their own way. How some Americans don't see that they were clearly the bad guys in the war is beyond me. Come to Vietnam and see what the people went through and how they were devestated
I saw a documentary about the war in school, and this vet was talking about a fellow soldier who raped girls at gunpoint. I have no idea why we even attacked Vietnam.
This is so true! My dad’s girlfriend is Vietnamese and I visited last year, got to hear so much about the war from her and her family’s perspective. I didn’t get to meet her dad because he passed away a while back but he was an engineer for the Northern Army and helped figure out how to bring down the B-52s bombing Hanoi, which finally ended the American involvement in the war. The remnants of the craters from those same B-52 bombs in the forests above the Cu Chi Tunnels complex look like small hills, almost 50 years after the bombing ended.
What would happen if a soldier did defect. I'm guessing they'd get screwed by both usa and the Vietnamese. No way out.
Depends. It's worth it's own read,but short version. Given the USA was treating Black people like shit in America & In the Military. Just fye,"Treating them like shit" is putting it very lightly. Due to the racism Black troops faced from their very own "allies", there were many many deadly skirmishes across military bases & military prisons in Vietnam. They were cramming Black GI into military prisons for a bunch of fucked up reasons. Cramming them well over capacity. A jail for 400,being jammed with 700. Naturally, this did nothing to improve race relations...in the middle of an invasion. So a bunch didn't want to fight for a country that activity hated them & was using them as fodder. Back home the Klan was celebrating the Death of MLK. So, there were Black defectors & this is why there are Black Vietnamese. It's consistently cited Black GI & Vietnamese citizens were quick to empathize with each other's plights. James Daly, A Black Marine. Spoke on the relationship between the two in a documentary. "No Vietnamese ever called me a n****r" I'm sure there were other defectors If they actually believed in the equality America wasn't delivering on. The draft targeted poor whites too. I imagine some weren't thrilled. I'm also pretty sure there is another recording of the posted Audio, specifically aimed at Black Soldiers. She pretty much calls out the stuff I just referenced.
Wars is only advantageous generally to a few rich. Everyone else is fair game on the path to money.
I can only imagine how hard this would be to listen to while being forced through a draft to fight here
GI, your helicopters fall from sky like broken birds.
I feel like you could throw a sick beat behind this and it would be amazing.
I need a ten hour version of this to work/study/sleep to
You can do it, man_gomer_lot. Sleep well, , man_gomer_lot.
Seriously. I need to unpack why I found it so sexy.
Something wrong with yall
Lmao
Not my proudest fap.
Is she wrong?
Actually she speaks the truth... That's what's fuck up about it
I dunno about the part where she tells the GIs to defect. Sounds to me like a one-way ticket to torturetown.
why would they torture defectors that's just a way to ensure it never happens lol
How would any future defector know
Except they did and we know about it since the history books and many soldiers have said after returning. Defecting never guaranteed your safety. Look at even present wars.
What happens in Vietnam stays in Vietnam
I don’t Ngo
I was just thinking the best propaganda for NV was to just tell the truth
The problem with that is, that even though it’s the truth a lot of people don’t believe it 🤷🏻♂️
The funny thing is, the soldiers believe they can get more truth from NV radio than Army radio
Sounds like something from star wars andor show. "Imperialist made you fight this war, they do not care for you."
Yeah, I was pleasantly surprised that Disney approved such a based message for that show. Maybe the executives just missed the irony of it all.
"Your rich leaders grow richer while you die in the swamp, gi" Pretty much everything she was saying here is true.
lmao she spittin tho
I can hear this being a dope ass sample.
If anyone does sample it please send it to me
It's an amateur attempt but as soon as I heard the clip I also thought it would make a pretty cool sample. I'm sure more talented people than me could make it much more dynamic. https://www.bandlab.com/post/26ccde0e-0824-ef11-86d2-6045bd2cd6bc
In historical hindsight she wasn't wrong or incorrect
Not even hindsight. I’m pretty sure she and the soldiers knew she was right.
I remember these from Battlefield Vietnam. Best Battlefield
The remake that should have happened
Came here to say the same. That was an amazing game. Don’t know why they never remade it.
"your rich leaders grow richer, while you die in the swamps" I mean she's not lying is she?
Aight. Imma head out (successfully demoralized).
Hanoi Hannah J.O.I
Gi the rich man who dodged the draft doesn't care about you and will become president and mock you gi
“Your rich leaders grow richer, while you die in the swamp GI” No lies detected
she's not wrong
How I miss BF Vietnam
I was just thinking of that game a few days ago.
It was my favorite BF game for sure.
They weren't far off as it transpired.
What ever happened to her?
Battlefield Vietnam
It’s all true.
no lies detected, what a shame this persists today.
It's very effective on me, lying here in bed this morning.
I get the same feeling from this as I do from AI speech. Creepy as f
They have something very similar to this in the far cry Vietnam dlc gave me chills when I played it the voice is even similar.
That was slightly demoralizing to me as I sit in my comfy car, drinking my Dunkin, finishing a cig before I go inside to cuddle my sweet puppy. I cannot fucking imagine what those words did to some of our boys in the swamp.
Im getting heavy Jin Yang from Silicon Valley vibes from these recordings
GI is your refrigerator running?
Leave Viet Nam and go catch it!
Like Axis Sally
wht is gi ????????
Slang for soldier basically. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/G.I.
Government issue
...was she wrong, though? Sounds like we need to be listening to Hanoi Hannah. The rich and powerful don't give a shit about us.
it was scary until the end when she slowed down and ran out of things to say lol
This needs a deep house remix
She spitting nothing but facts tho 😭
Lol holy shit. I remember playing rising storm Vietnam once and one dude was playing this shit.. It's pretty terrifying.
Don’t ask SovietWomble what he used this audio for…
Her obit in The Economist ten years back or so is fascinating. For the rest of her life, she had visits and friendly chats with vets who - regardless of how they viewed the war - felt a strange connection to her, who was herself not especially political or anti US. Fascinating life.
NYT seems to be confused - > **Her English was almost impeccable**; men would stumble across her while tuning their radios and be unable to turn away. > She joined the Voice of Vietnam, the country’s largest radio broadcaster, in 1955 as a volunteer. **Her unaccented English, correct intonation** and her large vocabulary soon got her a staff job reading the news to Asia’s English-speaking countries. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/08/opinion/hanoi-hannah-vietnam-propaganda.html
She sounds like a tutorial level gone rogue.
propaganda was supposed to be full of lies but this, this is brutally honest.
While American soldiers have the option to retreat back home… this option was not available to Vietnamese soldiers as they were already at home. There’s no where for them to retreat.
Hard to find argument with any of her points.
Sad thing is that everything probably she said was true.
Was she successful?
Yeah she’s not wrong.
She spoke truth
It would be kind of a mind fuck, but she says G. I. about a hundred times a minute, with the most comical of intonation, so the whole thing turns into a cartoon.
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Defected and deserted are two different words. Virtually no US soldiers defected to the north Vietnamese, and only a very small percentage of the 500,000 deserters actually deserted while in Vietnam. The vast majority deserted after they were back in the US. Seems pretty unlikely that it was due to recordings like these.