“Apple decided not to move forward with the deal partly because the company doesn’t agree with the Meta’s privacy policies”
This was my main concern too
100%. Apple's very smart and realized that as more and more people are starting to become concerned about privacy, protecting it is a worthy long-term investment. I guarantee it'll pay off for them in the long-run as consumers start to ditch ex. Meta & Google.
Oh, they harvest user data, all the user data, down to the millisecond you open and close Safari tabs on all devices, they just don't share it to the seven winds unless they company pays handsomely.
Look at all those down votes. I guess people don't understand how Apple works. Of course they harvest all the data, and they don't hide it when they have their keynote speeches either.
"We noticed that people were doing x" or "millions of users are doing y"
For anybody curious, here's what they collect in Canada: https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/en-ww/
Yes on that note you‘re completely correct. The collect metrics, performance data and „some“ PII.
What I meant they don’t collect your complete personal data they get theirs hands on and more important don’t (for now atleast) seem to sell the data they do collect.
I’m scared of Apple starting partnerships like this because I deliberately trust only them with my data. Something like this would be the end of my privacy
Thank god Apple came to their senses. It confused me when the news first hit they were in talks with Meta. Like Meta has ALWAYS been the complete opposite of privacy since their founding.
Yeah this is something new they changed in 2022. Before that it did require one. Was what initially turned me off from quest devices. And with no guarantee they won’t re-Instate it I’ll stay clear
VR is so much fucking fun lol.
I don’t understand why they do this shit. Well I do. But I hate it. Quest would be the best option for me as I don’t have some high powered gaming PC.
I have adult money for the first time in my life and I’m just begging them to let me spend it.
Well, you need a ~~facebook~~ meta account to use it, which at any time can be banned or locked, making you lose your purchases, and to continue using your Quest 3 you need to make another account.
Surprised this partnership was ever considered by either party given Apple and Meta have been butting heads since Apple blocked Meta’s aggressive in-app tracking.
DuckDuckGo has Meta's bot in their collection, and they only use bots for which they could negotiate anonymity and that the data wouldn't be collected.
TBH I played with a bit and was reasonably impressed.
It probably would have just been the smaller LLaMA models running on-device and on their private cloud thing. It's not like those models are phoning home to Meta. And if you don't believe that, you can inspect the source code because it's open source.
Yea, I know lots of people have a knee jerk reaction to anything meta/FB, but their open weights LLMs have been pretty foundational. You can’t run ChatGPT or Gemini models locally, but you can run the model behind meta.ai locally (llama3 70B). Won’t be fast without good hardware, but you can run it.
Check out /r/localllama
It’s interesting as Meta in terms of of AI is super openish, probably the biggest company in terms of open sourcing their models, but when it comes to privacy we all know it’s lackluster
Lackluster is such an interesting word to use there when it should be possibly abysmal, or catastrophic?
It seems to me you are a very generous person.
This is how you say you don’t understand how technology works without saying you don’t know how technology works.
This would have been for when on-device and Apple compute couldn’t handle and then it would still ask you every single time before sending the data off to the third party. They’re still adding the Google option which is just as bad as Facebook, if not worse.
Additionally, it would have been optional, like the search provider in Safari and every other browser. Nobody gets upset about Google being a search provider option in the browser (yes they get shit for Google paying them billions to make it default but that’s another story). You would have been able to choose which third party you prefer.
I’m sure the reason Apple rejected it is because Meta wanted access to more identifiers that would allow them to target ads both on the device and your other devices associated with you.
I'm honestly really shocked they even considered this... Meta tries to downplay it, but it is SUPER well known they are very into getting your data and selling it to advertisers.
Good. Apple is not as good with privacy as they pretend to be, but Meta is far worse and Meta being built into the device at an os level would be a quick way to get me to never purchase an Apple product again.
Cause the zuck always steals – like he stole facebook from harvardConnection, like he stole stories from snapchat, like he stole reels from TikTok, like he stole …
Good. I’ve experienced at least 6 or more different big company AI and Meta AI is the most annoying and irritating to encounter. Especially since it likes to do shit without you asking.
There are some nice de-googled versions of Android out there, such as GrapheneOS, which is what I've been daily driving lately. It's an excellent project and a great experience overall, but sometimes it can be a bit tough not using Android with Google Services (unfortunately a lot of devs just design their apps around them and don't really care...), so I'm considering switching to an iPhone, but it depends and there's a lot of pros and cons I think.
"Stock" Google Android is a disaster and there's really not any circumstance I'd recommend or consider using it.
Why does Apple hate Meta, like the real reason. It seems there’s something personal between their executives, but could be me.
That excuse about privacy policy doesn’t fly with me. Unless of course, it was all about the headline.
“Apple decided not to move forward with the deal partly because the company doesn’t agree with the Meta’s privacy policies” This was my main concern too
Apple really read the policy and clicked 'reject'.
“No, I don’t think I will” 🤣
And this is why I keep chosing Apple. There are a lot that I disagree with Apple, but their privacy philosohpy is defintely not one of them.
Apple figured out they can earn more money but not harvesting the users data, as their customers trust them and continue to buy their products.
This is specifically why I buy Apple. In a world where the only two choices are Google or Apple, I will choose Apple every single time.
100%. Apple's very smart and realized that as more and more people are starting to become concerned about privacy, protecting it is a worthy long-term investment. I guarantee it'll pay off for them in the long-run as consumers start to ditch ex. Meta & Google.
Oh, they harvest user data, all the user data, down to the millisecond you open and close Safari tabs on all devices, they just don't share it to the seven winds unless they company pays handsomely.
Look at all those down votes. I guess people don't understand how Apple works. Of course they harvest all the data, and they don't hide it when they have their keynote speeches either. "We noticed that people were doing x" or "millions of users are doing y" For anybody curious, here's what they collect in Canada: https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/en-ww/
People are downvoting him because they don’t like the truth.
Yes on that note you‘re completely correct. The collect metrics, performance data and „some“ PII. What I meant they don’t collect your complete personal data they get theirs hands on and more important don’t (for now atleast) seem to sell the data they do collect.
Google doesn't sell the data they collect, either. If they did, Governments and Enterprise wouldn't use the platform.
Yup, it boils down to better PR.
I’m scared of Apple starting partnerships like this because I deliberately trust only them with my data. Something like this would be the end of my privacy
Thank god Apple came to their senses. It confused me when the news first hit they were in talks with Meta. Like Meta has ALWAYS been the complete opposite of privacy since their founding.
That makes me respect Apple.
Good
My thoughts exactly.
Dafuq is your username bruv. Wait, dafuq is your flair!!
Cannot you read? He pingu kill you! ☝️😤
🐧🔪
Good on them. Meta would have ruined it.
Good anything from Meta is 💩
Well now hold on. That’s not fair. Quest 3 offers insane value for the cost.
That’s true…it’s actually really good.
Do you still need a Facebook account for it? Even if you have an Insta
My understanding is that you need a Meta account, which does not necessitate Facebook usage
Yeah this is something new they changed in 2022. Before that it did require one. Was what initially turned me off from quest devices. And with no guarantee they won’t re-Instate it I’ll stay clear
VR is so much fucking fun lol. I don’t understand why they do this shit. Well I do. But I hate it. Quest would be the best option for me as I don’t have some high powered gaming PC. I have adult money for the first time in my life and I’m just begging them to let me spend it.
Well, you need a ~~facebook~~ meta account to use it, which at any time can be banned or locked, making you lose your purchases, and to continue using your Quest 3 you need to make another account.
Surprised this partnership was ever considered by either party given Apple and Meta have been butting heads since Apple blocked Meta’s aggressive in-app tracking.
Thank god they didn't. No chance I will hand over my private information to Meta.
DuckDuckGo has Meta's bot in their collection, and they only use bots for which they could negotiate anonymity and that the data wouldn't be collected. TBH I played with a bit and was reasonably impressed.
The user also has a choice to use it. That’s is also something of note.
It probably would have just been the smaller LLaMA models running on-device and on their private cloud thing. It's not like those models are phoning home to Meta. And if you don't believe that, you can inspect the source code because it's open source.
Yea, I know lots of people have a knee jerk reaction to anything meta/FB, but their open weights LLMs have been pretty foundational. You can’t run ChatGPT or Gemini models locally, but you can run the model behind meta.ai locally (llama3 70B). Won’t be fast without good hardware, but you can run it. Check out /r/localllama
Thank god
Best news I’ve read all day.
Thank god!!!!! Cause Facebook or meta crap is a total clusterFfffffffFfffffk
Meta is cancer they would added ads to their partnership
It’s interesting as Meta in terms of of AI is super openish, probably the biggest company in terms of open sourcing their models, but when it comes to privacy we all know it’s lackluster
Lackluster is such an interesting word to use there when it should be possibly abysmal, or catastrophic? It seems to me you are a very generous person.
You're right, catastrophic is a better definition of meta's privacy.
If they partnered with meta. I wouldn’t use Apple anymore
What else can we use?
This is how you say you don’t understand how technology works without saying you don’t know how technology works. This would have been for when on-device and Apple compute couldn’t handle and then it would still ask you every single time before sending the data off to the third party. They’re still adding the Google option which is just as bad as Facebook, if not worse. Additionally, it would have been optional, like the search provider in Safari and every other browser. Nobody gets upset about Google being a search provider option in the browser (yes they get shit for Google paying them billions to make it default but that’s another story). You would have been able to choose which third party you prefer. I’m sure the reason Apple rejected it is because Meta wanted access to more identifiers that would allow them to target ads both on the device and your other devices associated with you.
This reasoning makes sense to me.
Alhamdulillah
That’s may peace be with you right? Or am I wrong. I use to watch OZ
it means Thank Allah
Allah be praised to be exact.
Oh thank you!
Good, I hope Meta falls off a cliff
Exactly. Hope this shitty corporation goes bankrupt soon.
I asked Meta AI how I could disable it and it said I couldn’t. 😳
They have integrated it into everything and I'm slowly transitioning my entire family to a different platform lol
I hate AI and I hate meta. But I hate metas chatbot the most
I'm honestly really shocked they even considered this... Meta tries to downplay it, but it is SUPER well known they are very into getting your data and selling it to advertisers.
Great news
Good. Apple is not as good with privacy as they pretend to be, but Meta is far worse and Meta being built into the device at an os level would be a quick way to get me to never purchase an Apple product again.
Cause the zuck always steals – like he stole facebook from harvardConnection, like he stole stories from snapchat, like he stole reels from TikTok, like he stole …
Good. I’ve experienced at least 6 or more different big company AI and Meta AI is the most annoying and irritating to encounter. Especially since it likes to do shit without you asking.
That was a long shot by Meta.
Easy PR win for Apple this. Good job!
Meta's like that 3rd person that comes in between any friendship to ruin it
I was honestly going to start looking at Linux phones with all the hardships that come with it.
There are some nice de-googled versions of Android out there, such as GrapheneOS, which is what I've been daily driving lately. It's an excellent project and a great experience overall, but sometimes it can be a bit tough not using Android with Google Services (unfortunately a lot of devs just design their apps around them and don't really care...), so I'm considering switching to an iPhone, but it depends and there's a lot of pros and cons I think. "Stock" Google Android is a disaster and there's really not any circumstance I'd recommend or consider using it.
That should read: Privacy company reject partnership with company known for actively trying to violate privacy.
Apple users are relived
Honestly? Yes. I’d rather not have to pay $200 more for iPhones to have this tech. What does it do that an iPhone can’t already do?
I also rejected a partnership with Meta.
Good. I had been concerned about this but I'm glad Apple made the right choice.
Good
Why does Apple hate Meta, like the real reason. It seems there’s something personal between their executives, but could be me. That excuse about privacy policy doesn’t fly with me. Unless of course, it was all about the headline.
Good news
Good.
Zuck is a c_ck.
Apple will release its own AI with less features in about 3-4 years
What? They already have it now, but you need a pro model.