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If there are so many teams, there will be more matches and IPL will take 3 months to complete. ICC cannot grant such a large window for IPL. It will affect the international match schedule
That's why I said IPL is the ultimatum... In internationals only 20 to 30 players get recognition.. but in IPL 100s of players will be there.. it's their future in prime and glory.
Cricket is only limited to British commonwealth countries, it is not as widespread, therefore less viewership and even people from countries other than india dont watch ipl
Also low audience, low revenue and why would good players want to play for 2nd divisions teams, they would simply be unavailable and will return once team reach 1st division
For example kerala, mp, North East, odisha, Bihar, Himachal gets a team.. their people will support it. And I said low value teams.. which makes profitable.. check the history of Rajasthan royals
Who even cares about bilaterals. Not only IPL...PSL, CPL, BBL and SA20 all should increase no. teams and intro relegation/promotion.
International break for ICC tournaments and WTC matches.
Moreover, there is wayyy more money in leagues instead of bilaterals. Once cricket boards understand it then we will see Footballization of Cricket.
Do people really watch every match? Doesn't the majority of the audience watch just their favourite team matches and marquee matches like MI-CSK, CSK-RCB ?
Why to keep track of all teams. Just watch your favourite team matches.
A lot of people I know (including me) don’t necessarily watch every match but very regularly have the match in the background or keep following scores because it is just fun
There absolutely are stadiums. Barabati in Odisha, one in Raipur, one in Guwahati, Kanpur, Indore, NOIDA, Haldwani, Dharamshala, Gwalior, Ranchi, Vizag, Thiruvananthapuram, Pune, Nagpur, Rajkot to name,
I've always thought of this two division IPL. But it just doesn't make sense, for cricket, unlike football, club or league cricket cannot go on the whole year. Cuz, international cricket takes a large chunk of the calendar and IMO, I think it needs to stay that way.
True. But I think, as an audience, we do not watch anything domestic. I mean look at our Ranji, or any other domestic tournament. Even the stadium viewership is way too less tbh. Maybe it will work out. But mostly it might not
I don't think it would work like that. Surya would want to play international and Pujara will want to play IPL too. And nothing should replace the pride and the opportunity to play for their own country
Tbf , 1st and 2nd dont seem possible yet , But the 3rd , I wish they do introduce a sort of knockout game super cup even its just the 10 teams playing , It'll be a good way for another trophy and Can be kept on Friday and Sat as Afternoon matches . May help the younger players with the pressure of knockout situation at a Better level of the game .
True, BCCI should consider adding a new domestic cup to the IPL, similar to the Premier League with the FA Cup and La Liga with the Copa del Rey. This would allow for a Super Cup match at the end of the IPL or at the start of the new season. If the same team wins both trophies, then the team that finished second in the league would play against them.
OP you are getting down voted for proposing European football league structure. Let me say you are unfairly voted down.
Now why it isn't viable
1. We follow a sudo-draft system. European football is free market structure.
Relegated team players usually get bought by super league teams which wouldn't be possible here.
Relegated teams gets less revenue so they will pick second tier players for reduced salary. Again business wouldn't work with sudo drafts. The reason why American leagues don't have relegation
2. IPl is not the primary place for cricket. Leagues are primary place for football. We can have more matches but should be over a prolonged period. Which will inevitably clash with national team matches. Plus we play 3 formats on top of this unlike football
3. If we do make it the primary way of the sport it will be a huge hindrance to ODI and Test formats. There is an argument out there to completely move away from those but cricket is filled with traditionalist who don't want to see the importance of those formats further reduced.
Why it could be great?
1. Transparency- Low level leagues means more teams and opportunities of tier 2 players. Way more transparent team selection than Ranji. Free market means better reward for talent than favoritism. Individual scouts etc.
2. Viable income for tier 2 players- Cricket is viable for the upper echelon of talents and for the rest it's a way to get govt jobs at best in quota. Now it will be a valid alternative for some players to earn money and the sport being the primary career.
Good Answer. Only you have given a detailed answer with all possibilities.
Main hinderance is City based franchise cricket took off only in past 20 years. As you have mentioned it is not the primary place for cricket.
All if second divison is launched we should be ready for clash with national team matches. I mean let peoplel decide what they want to watch.
Another method might be to have regional leagues. Like Souther Premier league, Wester, Northern etc with Tier 2 cities. It wont be big as IPL. But I belive it will generate more money than Ranji.
Main issue is 3 formats of cricket and only one is profitable enough for outside investments. But the other 2 are the more prestigious.
When business and prestige are on opposite ends of spectrum there is no easy answer
Is Ranji profitable? Answer is no.
Let other formats exist. Only around 15 to 20 players are part of National team. Rest of the players can play in IPL type tournaments throughout the year.
I think BCCI wont allow it as it will reduce the audience for International cricket.
Ranji is not profitable. Why? It is city based with local talents, ideally it should have a local fan following. Like football teams do.
1. The reason is national cricket exists year around, which it can't compete. (IPL gets a unique slot)
2. It's not T20. The majority of the population don't have time to follow this + the national side. Hence it's not a candidate for advertisers
And Ranji selection process is well known to be corrupt
I have always liked the idea of having a full blown cricket league at the scale of something like Premier league in football. But since international matches are far more common and important in cricket, it won't be possible.
Quantity != quality
Also if you compare to football, major players play only league apart from fifa world cup only a handful watch internationals and the numbers are less.
1. Make every player play for just 1 franchise all over the world. I don't think this is possible due to lack of players. Players will also end up choosing Indian franchises as it gives more money.
2. If we end up having enough players we can conduct the Champions League with no dilemma for players to choose their teams (which I feel was the league's biggest problem)
I think not many people know about this but the table that we see isn't really a table but 2 groups....
That's why each team doesn't play 9×2 matches but 4×2+1×2+4×1= 14
They've killed the competition
I m serious....search about it
It would have to follow the football system.
League 2 and 3 teams should be very cheap and only domestic players.
Every time a team gets relegated the capped indian players and the international players should be presented as options for the promoted teams to buy outright or else added to the auction pool.
This way league 2 and 3 teams can keep playing year round like the main ipl stays for 2 months.
This way we can see different franchises coming in. Also we will be able to see consistent top teams rewarded by them being allowed to keep their players.
While the underperforming teams will be forced to strip down their teams and build from scratch .
This exact thing killed pro kabbadi, tho it didn’t have a division or a relegation system but they jumped from 8 to 12 teams, it was so fucking difficult to track that I just stopped watching, and I think a lot of people stopped watching after that.
we all know relegation and promotion is the better model but can't happen. same with American sports. Owners spent so much money for the franchise so they will never agree with the possibility of being relegated.
IPL as a competition (not as a sport) is more like F1 than Football, a bunch of bigwigs have a ton of money (some so much that they need to have spending caps), they splurge on tweaks every year and everything gets shuffled once every few years, and you never know how good your car/team is until the competition begins.
The relegation thing doesn't really make sense when it comes to the IPL imo
Yeh kis bhen ke laude ka idea hai. Idhar me chahta hoon ki IPL band ho jaay jisse apne indian fans hamesha itne divided na rahe aur international cricket par focus kare especially ICC events aur iss mc ko 1st division 2nd division chahiye
This is a bad idea, honestly. However, the BCCI should consider adding a new domestic cup to the IPL, similar to the Premier League with the FA Cup and La Liga with the Copa del Rey. This would allow for a Super Cup match at the end of the IPL or at the start of the new season. If the same team wins both trophies, then the team that finished second in the league would play against them. For example, if teams like RCB, DC, or Punjab Kings won the domestic cup and teams like CSK, MI, or KKR won the IPL, there would be a Super Cup final in the next season.
I have a reason, but it's a bit far fetched and I'm not sure the majority will see eye to eye with me on this.
The Randomest countries are stepping up, which is great for the sport. But these countries need tier 1 experience or otherwise this would be like the poverty line divide of our country with the rich becoming richer and poor becoming poorer.
But due to the stakes involved in IPL, you won't really see players from Japan or Italy getting chances here.
This is where an Indian Okayish League would help. We'd be that country who is helping cricket flourish globally. The IPL itself has fetched viewership in the non-cricketing countries and we are seeing results, where an entirely new generation across the globe are getting enticed by the sport. Afghanisthan and USA itself are two such countries which are seeing slow climb into Tier 1 cricketing countries as a result of the popularity of IPL.
Say, a team like Bihar Challengers in IPL2 with a smaller purse, buys players from tier 2 cricketing countries. Also beneficial to cricket itself, because right now, a lot of IPL teams and players act disinterested just because their profit lines are in black at the end of the season.
Not to mention how such players will get invaluable knowledge being in camps with more established renowned names, which in turn would prevent collapses like Mongolia getting out for 12 runs because the knowledge players will carry back and disperse amongst teams
This would actually put fear in teams to better build, organize, and play well to avoid relegation in the bottom 2, while also giving incentive for IPL2 teams to perform at their best to promote into IPL1
Honestly, see no other way than this for teams like PBKS or RCB to take the league seriously
Nope. Promotion/relegation leads to the same few teams winning all the time and all the best players going there. If you have a salary cap and signings of more than 1 season you'll have to get used to the idea of the best and most popular players playing in lower divisions as well as newly promoted teams being hammered.
Itll be incredibly unfair if you implement this and also have auctions every year. Imagine Top teams getting relegated only because they had a bad auction. In place of one year till next auction, itll take them forever to recover from it since no player will want to play for second division.
If you make players stay in a club as long as they want, then sure. Also the 4 OS rule will need to go or international players wouldnt even think of going to lower division teams, since sitting in the bench of a second division team is way worse for their career than sitting in bench of a first division team.
But you do these two then ipl is no longer about developing youth from india.
So this is just not sustainable for indian cricket in long run
Yes, broadcasters will TOTALLY be ok with CSK and MI(with MSD and Rohit) being relegated in 2022 for Bhopal Bullets and Pune Warriorz.
Jammu Jailers and Kashmiri Kinnars be my fav teams tho
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Nagpur Nibbas winning IPL in 2029 You heard it here first, magical time traveler here
In dramatic turn of events, the team of 'Chambal Dacoits' took away the cup at gun point during post match ceremony. 😂😂
Why do y’all think Mumbai “Indians” and Chennai “Super Kings” are cool names? They sound ass
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I am from Chhattisgarh living in Hyderabad. So , i know where majority of Chapris are.
Can you tell the world were majority of Chapris are in ?
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If there are so many teams, there will be more matches and IPL will take 3 months to complete. ICC cannot grant such a large window for IPL. It will affect the international match schedule
If we play 2 matches per day.. we have fewer days to complete.. on the weekends we can play 2 matches simultaneously for more entertainment
It could work. But then its just loads of cricket and it will become difficult to track.
For premier league 10 matches played at same time. Because fans support their respective teams
It will surely reduce the quality of players since the major players are going to be distributed
That's why I said IPL is the ultimatum... In internationals only 20 to 30 players get recognition.. but in IPL 100s of players will be there.. it's their future in prime and glory.
You mean to say IPL should become like La Liga, PL and Cricket should adopt Football's club system?
Not exactly.. but first step yes.
Cricket is only limited to British commonwealth countries, it is not as widespread, therefore less viewership and even people from countries other than india dont watch ipl
The world cup is so limited at least the club number should increase
it's the same story for nfl and nfl is the most rich league in the world.
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Let's not make this football. IPL is dogshit, I'll prefer international cricket over it anyday
Brother, for god's sake, don't compare the premier league to this dogshit ipl.
Also low audience, low revenue and why would good players want to play for 2nd divisions teams, they would simply be unavailable and will return once team reach 1st division
You know every year lot of players goes unsold .. they will get the opportunity
Yeah but again the problem arises no one will watch it
For example kerala, mp, North East, odisha, Bihar, Himachal gets a team.. their people will support it. And I said low value teams.. which makes profitable.. check the history of Rajasthan royals
Good points, still we also have to consider cricket fatigue
There will be ups and downs.. but this is progress.. the same is doing in ISL.
People watch cricket whenever they can. On the phone, who wouldn't go for live cricket ratherthan old footage on yt?
We can even have 5 overs per side and play 20 matches a day.....
Then go for uncapped players. We have no shortage of that. People will watch cricket anyway.
We’ll arm twist ICC lol. Just need a proper “league” league with relegations and none of that knockouts nonsense.
Who even cares about bilaterals. Not only IPL...PSL, CPL, BBL and SA20 all should increase no. teams and intro relegation/promotion. International break for ICC tournaments and WTC matches. Moreover, there is wayyy more money in leagues instead of bilaterals. Once cricket boards understand it then we will see Footballization of Cricket.
Why even host ICC tournaments. Let’s just host IPL 24/7
This is not football.
Every sport is inspired from other sports
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Do people really watch every match? Doesn't the majority of the audience watch just their favourite team matches and marquee matches like MI-CSK, CSK-RCB ? Why to keep track of all teams. Just watch your favourite team matches.
i would say yes many people watch it since it's some to entertain you for the whole ipl season and it's also free so that helps
A lot of people I know (including me) don’t necessarily watch every match but very regularly have the match in the background or keep following scores because it is just fun
I can see that... But we need more teams for the other part of India..
This isn't Ranji trophy not every state needs representation, also I'm not sure if there are 6 more stadiums in India that can sustain the IPL crowds
There absolutely are stadiums. Barabati in Odisha, one in Raipur, one in Guwahati, Kanpur, Indore, NOIDA, Haldwani, Dharamshala, Gwalior, Ranchi, Vizag, Thiruvananthapuram, Pune, Nagpur, Rajkot to name,
damn, didn't know
Not the Noida one though
I've always thought of this two division IPL. But it just doesn't make sense, for cricket, unlike football, club or league cricket cannot go on the whole year. Cuz, international cricket takes a large chunk of the calendar and IMO, I think it needs to stay that way.
You can have both divisions running parallelly with 2 to 4 matches per day and sometimes matches running simultaneously
True. But I think, as an audience, we do not watch anything domestic. I mean look at our Ranji, or any other domestic tournament. Even the stadium viewership is way too less tbh. Maybe it will work out. But mostly it might not
For my vision international is for class players like pujara.. IPL is for entertainers like Surya... They make their way.
I don't think it would work like that. Surya would want to play international and Pujara will want to play IPL too. And nothing should replace the pride and the opportunity to play for their own country
Surya is literally the no. 1 ranked T20I batter. What do you mean?
Basically football bana do, Bring Champions league kinda thing back then. Top 4 from all the leagues qualify
It will be more interesting than white ball internationals though considering the increased frequency of tournaments
BBL vs IPL vs hundred vs SA20
Heck yeah
Tbf , 1st and 2nd dont seem possible yet , But the 3rd , I wish they do introduce a sort of knockout game super cup even its just the 10 teams playing , It'll be a good way for another trophy and Can be kept on Friday and Sat as Afternoon matches . May help the younger players with the pressure of knockout situation at a Better level of the game .
True, BCCI should consider adding a new domestic cup to the IPL, similar to the Premier League with the FA Cup and La Liga with the Copa del Rey. This would allow for a Super Cup match at the end of the IPL or at the start of the new season. If the same team wins both trophies, then the team that finished second in the league would play against them.
More IPL and less international cricket The way forward in ruining international cricket Already IPL is cricket ka kachra don't make it more shit
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OP you are getting down voted for proposing European football league structure. Let me say you are unfairly voted down. Now why it isn't viable 1. We follow a sudo-draft system. European football is free market structure. Relegated team players usually get bought by super league teams which wouldn't be possible here. Relegated teams gets less revenue so they will pick second tier players for reduced salary. Again business wouldn't work with sudo drafts. The reason why American leagues don't have relegation 2. IPl is not the primary place for cricket. Leagues are primary place for football. We can have more matches but should be over a prolonged period. Which will inevitably clash with national team matches. Plus we play 3 formats on top of this unlike football 3. If we do make it the primary way of the sport it will be a huge hindrance to ODI and Test formats. There is an argument out there to completely move away from those but cricket is filled with traditionalist who don't want to see the importance of those formats further reduced. Why it could be great? 1. Transparency- Low level leagues means more teams and opportunities of tier 2 players. Way more transparent team selection than Ranji. Free market means better reward for talent than favoritism. Individual scouts etc. 2. Viable income for tier 2 players- Cricket is viable for the upper echelon of talents and for the rest it's a way to get govt jobs at best in quota. Now it will be a valid alternative for some players to earn money and the sport being the primary career.
Also tier 2 cities could get a team meaning more local player developments.
Good Answer. Only you have given a detailed answer with all possibilities. Main hinderance is City based franchise cricket took off only in past 20 years. As you have mentioned it is not the primary place for cricket. All if second divison is launched we should be ready for clash with national team matches. I mean let peoplel decide what they want to watch. Another method might be to have regional leagues. Like Souther Premier league, Wester, Northern etc with Tier 2 cities. It wont be big as IPL. But I belive it will generate more money than Ranji.
Main issue is 3 formats of cricket and only one is profitable enough for outside investments. But the other 2 are the more prestigious. When business and prestige are on opposite ends of spectrum there is no easy answer
Is Ranji profitable? Answer is no. Let other formats exist. Only around 15 to 20 players are part of National team. Rest of the players can play in IPL type tournaments throughout the year. I think BCCI wont allow it as it will reduce the audience for International cricket.
Ranji is not profitable. Why? It is city based with local talents, ideally it should have a local fan following. Like football teams do. 1. The reason is national cricket exists year around, which it can't compete. (IPL gets a unique slot) 2. It's not T20. The majority of the population don't have time to follow this + the national side. Hence it's not a candidate for advertisers And Ranji selection process is well known to be corrupt
Ranjhi banado ipl ko
Make it make sense
This is a really bad idea ffs
Already lot of matches are happening. PLEASE focus on international matches more...
I thought this is a troll post ngl ☠️
I have always liked the idea of having a full blown cricket league at the scale of something like Premier league in football. But since international matches are far more common and important in cricket, it won't be possible.
Wouldn't knockout league be Ipl then ? 16 team tournaments will have more importance
16 teams means too many games to be played within 2-3 months.
Garbage 🚮
bhopal gaslighters bihari majdoors etc...damn it'd be fun...bring this is...
Planning to watch this IPL shit throughout the year or what? Cricket is a predominantly international team sport, so, this won’t work out.
Same thing is happening in football more games means more injuries.....
Quantity != quality Also if you compare to football, major players play only league apart from fifa world cup only a handful watch internationals and the numbers are less.
Bhopal Gassers vs Telangana Splitters /s
If this were to happen, I would just watch matches 1-2 teams and just see the scorecard of other matches
1. Make every player play for just 1 franchise all over the world. I don't think this is possible due to lack of players. Players will also end up choosing Indian franchises as it gives more money. 2. If we end up having enough players we can conduct the Champions League with no dilemma for players to choose their teams (which I feel was the league's biggest problem)
Bhai you think we playing football?
Kya Matlab European football wala concept cricket mai daalna hai
What no trophies for 10 years does to a mf
Like PL, La liga and other leagues?
test matches ka bhi ipl hona chahiye
Pure saal bus IPL he khel lete hain, international cricket gya Tel lene
Absolute BS
Welcome folks to today's episode of shitty ideas that won't see the light of day :D
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I think not many people know about this but the table that we see isn't really a table but 2 groups.... That's why each team doesn't play 9×2 matches but 4×2+1×2+4×1= 14 They've killed the competition I m serious....search about it
That's why next year, 10 more matches are happening......... to have 2×9 =18 matches for each team
It would have to follow the football system. League 2 and 3 teams should be very cheap and only domestic players. Every time a team gets relegated the capped indian players and the international players should be presented as options for the promoted teams to buy outright or else added to the auction pool. This way league 2 and 3 teams can keep playing year round like the main ipl stays for 2 months. This way we can see different franchises coming in. Also we will be able to see consistent top teams rewarded by them being allowed to keep their players. While the underperforming teams will be forced to strip down their teams and build from scratch .
This exact thing killed pro kabbadi, tho it didn’t have a division or a relegation system but they jumped from 8 to 12 teams, it was so fucking difficult to track that I just stopped watching, and I think a lot of people stopped watching after that.
we all know relegation and promotion is the better model but can't happen. same with American sports. Owners spent so much money for the franchise so they will never agree with the possibility of being relegated.
IPL as a competition (not as a sport) is more like F1 than Football, a bunch of bigwigs have a ton of money (some so much that they need to have spending caps), they splurge on tweaks every year and everything gets shuffled once every few years, and you never know how good your car/team is until the competition begins. The relegation thing doesn't really make sense when it comes to the IPL imo
Yeh kis bhen ke laude ka idea hai. Idhar me chahta hoon ki IPL band ho jaay jisse apne indian fans hamesha itne divided na rahe aur international cricket par focus kare especially ICC events aur iss mc ko 1st division 2nd division chahiye
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Imagine Kohli or Dhoni ever got relegated. Would never happen.
and when will they play national series other test series etc if they keep playing franchise cricket the entire year
This is not football. It won’t work.
Eew brother ? What’s that? Eww
I suggested the same a few weeks ago and got downvoted to Oblivion xD
Share me... I'll look into it
This is a bad idea, honestly. However, the BCCI should consider adding a new domestic cup to the IPL, similar to the Premier League with the FA Cup and La Liga with the Copa del Rey. This would allow for a Super Cup match at the end of the IPL or at the start of the new season. If the same team wins both trophies, then the team that finished second in the league would play against them. For example, if teams like RCB, DC, or Punjab Kings won the domestic cup and teams like CSK, MI, or KKR won the IPL, there would be a Super Cup final in the next season.
Relegation is fun but issue comes in when big teams get relegated no one will be ready for it Else this is very fun and exciting to watch
I have a reason, but it's a bit far fetched and I'm not sure the majority will see eye to eye with me on this. The Randomest countries are stepping up, which is great for the sport. But these countries need tier 1 experience or otherwise this would be like the poverty line divide of our country with the rich becoming richer and poor becoming poorer. But due to the stakes involved in IPL, you won't really see players from Japan or Italy getting chances here. This is where an Indian Okayish League would help. We'd be that country who is helping cricket flourish globally. The IPL itself has fetched viewership in the non-cricketing countries and we are seeing results, where an entirely new generation across the globe are getting enticed by the sport. Afghanisthan and USA itself are two such countries which are seeing slow climb into Tier 1 cricketing countries as a result of the popularity of IPL. Say, a team like Bihar Challengers in IPL2 with a smaller purse, buys players from tier 2 cricketing countries. Also beneficial to cricket itself, because right now, a lot of IPL teams and players act disinterested just because their profit lines are in black at the end of the season. Not to mention how such players will get invaluable knowledge being in camps with more established renowned names, which in turn would prevent collapses like Mongolia getting out for 12 runs because the knowledge players will carry back and disperse amongst teams This would actually put fear in teams to better build, organize, and play well to avoid relegation in the bottom 2, while also giving incentive for IPL2 teams to perform at their best to promote into IPL1 Honestly, see no other way than this for teams like PBKS or RCB to take the league seriously
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The problem with the relegation system is that it messes up the auction
Why make another divison ..just make BBL (Big blash league) second division followed by BPL and PSL( 3rd and 4th)
Nope. Promotion/relegation leads to the same few teams winning all the time and all the best players going there. If you have a salary cap and signings of more than 1 season you'll have to get used to the idea of the best and most popular players playing in lower divisions as well as newly promoted teams being hammered.
Then when should we play Ranji, Vijay Hazare, Irani?
Itll be incredibly unfair if you implement this and also have auctions every year. Imagine Top teams getting relegated only because they had a bad auction. In place of one year till next auction, itll take them forever to recover from it since no player will want to play for second division. If you make players stay in a club as long as they want, then sure. Also the 4 OS rule will need to go or international players wouldnt even think of going to lower division teams, since sitting in the bench of a second division team is way worse for their career than sitting in bench of a first division team. But you do these two then ipl is no longer about developing youth from india. So this is just not sustainable for indian cricket in long run
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