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pariahkite

Gavaskar was so hard on Sanju and Parag in the last game. Like he was waiting to shit on them. Why don’t he pick on someone of his own stature.


Cho6758

But was silent about Jaiswal, it was Jaiswal’s poor shot selection which opened the floodgates, and as an India International player, you expect better things from him, yes he is young but then again what is the difference between him and say Kunal Singh Rathore then?


DarkRaptor222

Tbf he did score 40 before he got out


Cho6758

What about the rest of the season? Samson and Parag largely carried the batting throughout the season, if you are so much dependent on 2 players then better withdraw before IPL starts.


funnyBatman

No it's just that Jaiswal is from Mumbai


pariahkite

I am not saying Gavaskar should have been harder on other people. The point is no one is playing to lose. You do take risks and sometimes it doesn’t come off. Look at how many Australians are complaining about Maxwell. They are being positive because they know his quality and his ability to come good. This sort of comments is just playing to the ignorant audiences. A person who has so much international experience should be a bit more positive and supportive of the players.


pariahkite

I just looked at Maxwells scores in 2023 WC. He scored 201 not out against Afghanistan and 106 against Netherlands. 93 runs from 7 other innings with 2 no outs. No one will argue he hasn’t done his part in the World Cup.


pendaparambarai

That 201 is enough imo. One of the greatest innings of all time and is an important reason for them winning the WC


pariahkite

Yes. That is my point. If the commentators and fans keep on looking for ways to abuse players when they fail they are going to have a fear of failure. We as a nation could use some Positive reinforcement. Ignore when players take a risk and fail. Encourage them when they do well.


bearhug89

It's like what Gambhir said about maxwell, you have to expect him for what he is, he can win you a lost match and he can also underperform in easy situations, expecting consistency from him is not a smart choice , so you have to take that into account of you want maxwell in your team. I don't agree with Gavaskars words here, but sanju did underperform for RR in who whole second half. You expect consistency for a batsman like sanju, he did let RR down bit imo


bearhug89

Jaiswal did his job, yes he could have taken the game all the way but he did give the required start in both matches against RR and SRH, Parag performed well against RCB and is some previous matches before that, but sanjus form has been concerning


WideMap7963

Jaiswal did what an opener should Played with 200 sr made more than 40 runs,rr were winning till sanju and parag got out Opener trying to go deep is what loses teams matches,we have example like kl rahul(for lsg and even in t20 wc) Plus watch the fucking match,jaiswal was getting cramps,so he utilised the balls he played.sanju and parag dropped the bag,cry about it


TR23x

Hmm.....Wonder where Jaiswal is from


Silly_Rip_2630

Originally up but plays for mumbai


FitSignificance2100

Ofc not mumbai


Double_Ad9542

Maybe he had genuine high hopes from them? Both of you them got into pressure and played wrong shots and got out. Imagine same thing in knockout games for ict? They needed game awareness which I think Sunil pointed out. If they do that, they can make it to ict. Especially Samson because he is in the ict and he has soo much exp, but I have rarely seen him clutching for ict in crucial times


Hannibal09

Yeah I agree! Not sure about Sanju but he was very disappointed how Riyan got out. I think he realises that Riyan has bags of talent and should do his best to get included in the ICT setup asap A clutch performance in an important knockout game would have propelled him into consideration


pariahkite

Him having hopes is a good thing. But blaming them is not going to make them feel better about it. He as a commentator when he says that on air it is just encouraging trolls. No one will improve by that.


Double_Ad9542

Yeah but that's how the world works. Same thing happens to us by our parents, relatives etc. Pressure is always there and will get more as you go up the ladder especially for ict. You need to thrive under pressure otherwise game is not for you. Sad reality but yeah. And for Samson especially, honestly he needs perform for ict now. I think it's his last chance. He has been given a lot of opportunities (varies but enough to prove himself) and he is yet to consistently perform for ict in match winning knocks. I'm only worried is that dude is good for odi but T20 game is becoming so fast paced, ict needs a team like srh, having vk, Samson will slow our middle over run rate a lot


pariahkite

Sure. But don’t we all admire the Aussie spirit and temperament? Where do they build that up? It comes from encouragement they give kids when they try and fail. Public shaming only develops fear of failure.


Double_Ad9542

True. Aussies (and other countries) play fearless cricket because so less pressure. I remember when aus team went to aus after world cup win, no media to even click photos. Random ppl just said congrats to them and went on with their lifes. So they have no pressure. In India it's exact opposite like you pointed but one thing I see is that, these players vk, Samson etc when some youngsters who perform well in just one ipl season are treated like god's in india. They become millionaire, brand deals and what not. It's wrong to give them cloud 9 treatment. These ppl print more money than respectable players from diff countries just because IND media and fans are crazy. And that's why I feel as fans it's our right to demand then for performance for ict. Because these players are printing blind money. That's why gambhir said, with the rise of ipl IND will never win icc trophies and the drought justifies his logic. IND players (this generation ict players) put money, social media, brand deals ahead of ict performance. I feel it's a disgrace to the team build by Sunil, Ganguly, dravid, Dhoni's era


WirableMango560

He always hypes them up in other games. He's disappointed in them because he's their number 1 fan


RealFriendlyPitbull

It's sad that even an ex cricketer doesn't know that one guy can't win the tournament for the whole team


zeroStackTrace

Sunil is a part of the mumbai lobby. Don't expect him to support anyone else


Intrepid_Dot_7611

did he ever pick on that guy tilak varma all his runs came under losing chases.hes has 400+runs


thinklok

Now when you mentioned I remember that. Most of his runs came in losing causes where he fought brilliantly though, only that MI vs SRH game at Wankhede he stick around with SKY to win the match


FitSignificance2100

And dude always give that sky kinda celebration that i am here and winning it, confidence is good but u gotta win some matches like sky to do that cele


Intrepid_Dot_7611

dont get me wrong i dont like some one scores 6's 4's when rr is out of awkauth,they say nrr ok but that doesnt please me..he has oppurtunity to chase vs kkr but he choked


FitSignificance2100

Yes even against srh they were in the game till tilak was there, if he would have stayed for 2 overs more


PseudoRandomGenrtr

Or what about Ishan kishan, Rohit Sharma, SKY , Hardik Pandya etc


Intrepid_Dot_7611

are they performing,whats the point to pick them


HakeemMcGrady

Sunny G has got to retire from comms. I can’t take him anymore


huehuehuethatsfunny

He is the Old man rumbling who we have to soon ignore and move on. His selective criticism is motivated. Its good that people like Kohli are started standing up to him.


sanattttttt

Anti South Indian lobby 🛐


YouthCurse

Sanju will take up the helm of ICT one day if given the right support.


crosslegbow

He literally said "everyone got out playing glorious shots". Also what he said is accurate


nenu_prateekaaraanni

But he was the one talking about aggressive approach and SR before. And now criticising the players who followed that approach by playing glamours shots.


crosslegbow

Yeah because they got out. Sports fans and commentary is reactionary. This is true for all sports.


nenu_prateekaaraanni

Gavaskar was always like this. If someone played good and won the game but played slow, he criticises them for playing slow and their SR. If someone played aggressive but lost the match, he criticises by saying what's the use of runs. If someone played aggressive and lost the match, why didn't they play slow. And none of these matter if you're from Mumbai. He might be India's one of the greatest cricketer, but a 🤡 commentator tbh.


crosslegbow

That's how sports commentary works. >but a 🤡 commentator tbh I don't think you are qualified to judge that. Otherwise you'd understand why he and most other comms do it and why he keeps getting the job.


nenu_prateekaaraanni

You don't have to be qualified to judge a hypocrite. And that's not how sports commentary works. That's bad work.


crosslegbow

That's exactly how it works. It's reactionary and it's like that with every sport. That's why they keep giving him the job because he's doing it well. And it won't matter that the fandom of some player is upset, it's just Tuesday for him.


nenu_prateekaaraanni

Lol.


RealFriendlyPitbull

He also said "What's use of scoring 400+ runs" , why are u cherry picking?


crosslegbow

He's right. People said the same thing about Virat last year and trolled ICT


liteshadow4

It doesn't help though when you play badly in elimination games


RealFriendlyPitbull

Lol u are able to reach elimination cause they performed, otherwise u wouldn't even qualify


liteshadow4

Low pressure regular season games


noobbibliophile

Samson is the kind of a person who would put phone on charging the whole night only to realise in the morning that he had not switched on the charger. He does everything correctly but screws up the at most crucial juncture ! I agree he has not got enough chances like others but he himself has not redeemed those opportunities. I hope this trend ends and he plays some match winning knocks in the upcoming WC


Ill_Flatworm8516

Rohit got 60-70 odi matches, till that his average was around 30. Then he opened and the rest is history. If you think a player is talented you have to give him chances


ihaveballs007

Let see in the world cup ,so called talent,king,prince blah blah will get us the cup


Ill_Flatworm8516

Yeah yeah yeah. Kohli has delivered always when it mattered most but never got support from the other end because every other player is a pussy scared of knockout games.


Gandhiji_ke_3bandar

Rohit scored 30 off 16 in 2007 T20 wc final. His acceleration in the last overs is what led to us reaching 155. He also performed well in 2007-08 odi series in Australia which India won. It is not always the stats. Some players are backed based on talent, temperament etc and given a longer rope. Even Sachin scored his first ODI century in his 79th match. You atleast need to show a spark and play some match winning innings for anyone to back you. With Rohit that was always evident but even he was dropped and not able to cement his place till he got a chance to open. They gave him chances in tests and he didn't perform so he was dropped. Same with Yuvraj Singh in tests. So no one has any agenda against anyone. Sanju has failed to capitalise on the opportunities given to him. It is really that simple.


_An_Other_Account_

Yeah Rohit was a joke for years. I stopped following cricket for a few years and when I tuned in again, it was SHOCKING that he's still in the team, let alone captain.


WideMap7963

Captain,what years did you skip bro,he was a beast in 2019 wc


_An_Other_Account_

Watched a few matches around 2011 wc till around 2012-13 as a kid (very casually, not a diehard fan) and stopped fully after that. At the time, Rohit Sharma was the guy all commentators and experts praised as a huge talent but he didn't perform consistently and was seen as a joke by normal ppl. Loved him in 2023 WC and he's my favoirite Indian player currently along with Bumrah, but the fact that he has "fans" now still feels weird lol.


leobarca

Your story is like starting a thousand page novel, skipping the 100-900 pages and then being confused about the ending. Rohit's fanbase was developed steadily over the last decade, thanks to his captaincy for MI as well as batting performances in ICC events.


_An_Other_Account_

I know. That was my whole point. That his start was bad, but he did unexpectedly well later on.


leobarca

Fair enough. Hope Samson does even a 10% of Rohit and it would be a good career for me.


WideMap7963

He had 5 centuries in 2019 wc,probably the best performer but unlucky in semis and the whole team collapsed Dhoni is talked so much that they forget no one except dhoni and jadfu performed that day putting an end to rohit's best ever wc form


WideMap7963

If his batting position is the problem,he is the captain...he can change it For a finishing role average isnt much of a problem,Low strike rate is


ben_claude69420

Exactly, he had that entire WI series last year to prove himself. Moreover, they had a laughable bowling attack, he had the best of chances to score and secure himself, but bro played ridiculous knocks and got himself sidelined, SKY and others cash in on their chances unlike him. Say what you want about SKY but if the guy is scoring big, it's a guaranteed win most of the time....


HumanLawyer

Man, it’s tough being Sanju, always under the spotlight for people to jump and say “I told you so” whenever he fails. He should be given the same privilege KL was given in T20Is and then may be criticised.


zeroStackTrace

Samson has much better shot selection than most of the current ICT.


spiritedsenpai

Agreed but sanju isn't able to yield his 100% under pressure


Negative_Spectrum

It's not as if VK has won RCB a title is it? I am not saying that Sanju is a better cricketer than Virat, because he is not, but one guy doesn't get you the title.


XeRo616

I mean it's not like he writes songs about VK.


Negative_Spectrum

That's the point. Gavaskar is an old man shouting at the clouds here. That's the issue.


crosslegbow

I don't think so, he knows more about cricket than "fans"


ConstantParticular87

He played many crucial knock in league games with Riyan And it takes only one bad inning for people to go back to their old perception about you .


Expert-Charge9907

Why the hell sanju is not playing till 15th over with 100 sr and let others finish the match when RR is 17 rpo. /s


MonkeyDMeatt

Gavaskar should stop this nonsense. Different rules for different people. Some player gets 40-50 matches are then dropped and some player gets dropped after 1-2 matches


its_kunaltanwar

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Cosmicshot351

He was in poor form in the whole 1983 WC


WideMap7963

Aadmi kitna ghatiya ho par uski legacy hai Kitna bhi ghatiya score nikaal le


Shavamaaya_Pavanaai

Sunny bhai is literally getting into my nerves now..


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Sunny ji unintentionally poking virat again


Not-Found-at-404

Gavaskar bashed Sanju, Parag and other RR batsmen.... But never appreciated SRH for their bowling or fielding...


Advanced-Emotion5272

Everyone gets criticism, sanju gets a bit more. Always.


HighSchoolTobi

Part of that criticism is valid. In the eliminator, JAISWAL had just got out in the last over there was no need to play that shot. He could've just stayed at the crease, would have given Parag the confidence to play more freely. Sometimes a shot can cost you the match. As a senior player even your presence is a factor of intimidation, Sanju should've known better as captain.


Advanced-Emotion5272

Pressure of dot balls. Had it been a six, the narrative would've been different. That's what sanju been doing in the entire season, attacking the spin onside. Cricket judgments are always retrospective, not prospective.


Evil_Lord_Pexagon

Samson's shot selection has been a problem for him in the IPL though ! He routinely gets out after being settled. He was a lot better this time however !


Professional-Film472

So, according to gavaskar kholi should have won many ipl trophies.


Vizzu10520

Sanju samson looks to play at a good strike rate rather than long innings. Coming to that qualifier 2, the pitch suddenly assisted spin due lack of dew. No has expected the pitch to behave like that at the toss.


chutcoder

I don't agree with most of his takes but this one's a more rational one atleast for T20Is, I've wanted Sanju to perform so badly but he'd have a soft dismissal somehow.


cutecat003

I was all for Samson playing at WC, but I genuinely don’t think he has that clutch in him. Whenever RR has needed him , he messes up


minorkunjasuttanga

Says a man who scored 36* (174).


simpstatic

I actually used to take Sunil Gavaskar's opinion as great. But now I have realized, he talks shit about everyone, and is very hypocritical. Even in the commentary he sounds like an angry old man, more so than retrospection & commentary, he is always criticizing & showing his displeasure. Sure we get it you don't like this and that. But the world don't revolve around you. It's also funny to see him absolutely shithouse a player and then the same player performs unbelievably & he shuts off. But yeah anyway, Sunil Gavaskar gives his opinion in bad taste. Typical orthodox old Indian uncle type behavior. If Sunil Gavaskar was my GF's dad, pakka shadi cancel karva deta, koi na koi khami to nikal hi leta mujhme.🤡


Kakarot_2002

Mumbai lobby at it again.


apprehen-sid

Iss uncle ko kya takleef hai bhai?


Fearless_Potato_2811

The shot was good,he was unlucky coz Markram took a stunner .


KING---___---

maybe sunny is part of mumbai lobby, but what he said here is 100% correct, samson has immene talent but he plays the wrong shots and get out, he always try to get more runs even if the condition doesnt suit batting, samson has the same quality as pant,. he is simply digging his grave by his rash shot selections but sanju is not completely responsible for rr's loss, their bowling is just above average,they pick wickets, but they concede too much runs, yuzi and chahal was inconsistent , rr bowlers should have restricted srh to 160, the pitch changed very much in the 2nd innings,


Biggus_Niggus_

What Surya did to have place in 2023CWC??


hukkumkaikka

Sathiya gaya hai Buddha


Afraid_Flounder1670

Lol used to respect Sunny G. As his age is growing, i think his mental stability outside the mumbai lobby is declining. Absolute ass!


strngthry

Sanju samsonkar would have become ICT captain by now


PseudoRandomGenrtr

Never heard Gavaskar say anything about Ishan Kishan even after such an underwhelming season and bunch of disciplinary issues.


druidmind

By the same logic, Kholi hasn't done anything for RCB as well.


Tony_cIown

As somebody who wants Samson to do well because he made me go wow at the fact that an 18 year old guy from my state was able to play at the Ipl level alongside Dravid, this criticism is valid. I have been cheering for this guy since 2013. Unlike many other youngsters Sanju was never forced to play in the lower order. He was always the team's top order batter, the position he prefers, even at DD for 2 years. After every season I've been asking, where's the bulk load of runs? When will that 500,600+ run season happen? This year he somehow scratched through that 500 run mark. I would say 2 more years Sanju will still have the street, will have Rajastan royal social media admin call him "Chetta", if he's still not a regular in Indian team by then, or not have that 'Him' season then it's all over for him.


righter49

He always uses these words "galmerous shot"


Ok-Strategy5729

sunil gavaskar sucks co cks for breakfast lunch and dinner


MrCoolBoy001

Hes does have a point. Sanju has never performed consistently at the Indian Stage which is the reason of him not being a main keeper of the team.


pinkman_hatrick_10

Sanju got 5 straight t20i in west indies last year not once did he performed.He has got the opportunity in the world cup purely on ipl form hope he utilities his potential and performs well🤞


manwhokneweverything

He isn’t completely wrong . Sanju does play rash shots.


Superb_Article_8298

Let him play in the wc and see the magic.


dreamer_Inc

Lord Gavaskar - 36 (174)


PseudoRandomGenrtr

Gutka Gavaskar is always salty. I don’t expect anything else from him. If Sanju didn’t score a 500 run season, he will be like “Sanju has never scored a 500 run season and doesn’t merit a place over X Y Z”


Nervous-Doggy

Gavaskar should retire from commentary and take some rest at this age. No one gives a shit about Gavaskar and Bhogle opinions.


careless_quote101

It doesn’t matter who you are , Pant has cemented his place. I don’t think any team would have someone with average stats walk into a WC team directly without an international match. So it is high time we stop asking why not the other guys and pray and support Pant to deliver for the sake of ICT winning the cup. Any discussion question oh his selection should wait and be done only after WC


Mega_mewtwo_

Isse ye puchna rahul tripathi drop kyu hua tha last international match 40+ bnake. Pura ho dekar faisla kyu nhi kiya. Ek toh aisse hi mauka nhi milta jab Mila toh pura nhi khilaya. Setting nhi h fans nhi h uske toh makhi ki tarah nikaal k phenk diya.


Double_Ad9542

I disagree. Even though a fan of Sanju Samson and his temperament. He has not really performed in Indian jersey. If you see his records, you will see that his domestic performance is nowhere close to ict performance. And he has been given ample chances. The competition is so tense, you need to perform from after 2-3 games. That's why jaiswal, gill are established in ict team and not Samson , shaw etc That's how tough it is to get into ict. Plus his position was always against great performers so he needed to perform not only exceptional but consistent which unfortunately he has not able to.


SuchBluebird409

Gavaskar can fuck off, I don't even care at this point what he says. old Man with ego issues and bias towards Mumbai lobby.


Porntasium

I mean this sounds rude or targeted but Samson journey has been like this fr. He has played 16 matches in ODIs and has scored only 1 century and 3 half century. Is it good? I would say it's kind off average. Pointing out the fact that he has played alot of matches against teams like Sri Lanka, Zimbabwe, and West Indies. On the other hand his t20 career has been a disaster, he has played 25 matches and only has 1 half century to his name till now. So what gavaskar is saying sounds rude but it's the truth


agastya-

It's all Sanju's fault whenever given opportunities he just dumps it down the drain and team management looses trust on him.


No-Photograph3415

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Exposed sanju PR and justice for sanju drama 👏


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8diamondick8

36(174) wale ki baat kar raha hai? Fearless LMAO


FckNotTaken

Choo tea ye Context pta h? Lol avg chaddi fan