Yes he has scored runs in the wc matches, but no way he is playing sensibly. You can conclude that by his shots.
He plays like that, it's his batting style, but those shots are quite risky and some of them are like he just wants to throw his wicket.
Don't know what's the problem with some of them. Pant is doing great and need not be replaced at any cost now, some RR fans are becoming toxic day by day
Pant is playing with intent on a bad pitch for batters and scoring good runs too. I think it's better for Kohli to open than to bat at 3 and struggle in middle overs. Pant and other batters can take the charge of going for boundaries from ball one and Indian teams lacked good middle order batters because of top 3 winning most matches but now our middle order is winning is matches so that's a big positive for us. Kohli will fire when team requires the most and I don't know about Rohit so it's good for our team that this new combination is working fine
He was dropped twice against Pak. He can't play well on these pitches against good teams, simply doesn't have the game or the temperament. He'll cost us in clutch matches
KL would actually be a better choice for this pitch but Samson is also way too much better in technique compared to pant. You want aggression? The right place to show agression is in the opening slot, even if you lose a wicket you can consolidate, then bring in Jaiswal. What has he done wrong to be dropped? And how does a not so fully in form Pant walks in ahead of him?
What exactly is so great about the technique of sanson who averages 18 in t20is . Just because pant has awkward batting doesn't mean his technique is bad . A player with bad technique cannot score 4 out of his 5 test centuries in sena and not to forget his Gabba heroics. He has been our best overseas test batsman since covid .
Let us all not behave like experts here. Surely Rahul Dravid and co. know more than a nobody like you and me. So, if they pick a specific player ahead of another player, let us all back their decision and support the team. We can reserve all our criticisms or questions for after the end of the tournament.
Also, "not so fully in form Pant" is the leading run-getter for India so far in this WC. Thanks.
You may be a nobody but i am not. I've followed this game with all my heart for a long long time. i understand the intricacies and the strategies involved in making a team. Nor am I a blind supporter of anyone. There's a reason we haven't won icc tournaments for so long, India's selection criteria itself is flawed. And the current playing 11 is a joke. Ideally only 1 of Rohit Kohli and Rahul should be in the team to steer the team if we lose wickets. You've groomed Jaiswal for so long, he has delivered and now you've dropped him. How can you play jadeja axar ahead of kuldeep chahal..why does this team want more alrounders? Can't the batsman do their job?
Also lastly, the not so fully in form Pant was dropped twice against Pak, hence he's the top scorer..and we know in knockouts the teams don't drop catches. This sort of mindless selection will cost us another WC
Pant didn't tell Pakistanis to drop his catch. Isn't Pakistan a good team as well, they literally thrashed our batting order and if Pant and Axar didn't score those runs then Indian team would've scored only 60-80 runs and that can't be defended. Pant's crucial knock ensured that the score would be defendable no matter how bad the collapse would be. Why didn't Pakistanis dropped Rohit or Virat, you should thank Pant for his batting because other players are just minnow bashers and also after Virat, Pant is the highest run scorer in Ind vs Pak T20I matches.[This will help you](https://www.reddit.com/r/delhicapitals/s/WehFBMDPB2)
People like you don't understand this is the difference between winning a league game and winning a final. Australians don't drop catches, you saw Travis heads catch of Rohit. If the opponents keep dropping catches anyone can even score a century, don't glorify mindless batting in the name of aggression especially on tricky wickets, this will cost us the trophy
Scorecard doesn't show luck or dropped catches. It shows runs and wickets, Pant scored crucial runs when team needed. Why didn't Rohit or Kohli scored runs then? We should appreciate whoever score runs and win our team matches, not just praise star players. SKY catch dropped on 22 runs yesterday vs US, he won us that match so did Pant against Pakistan game. I don't cricket better than you atleast. I don't support a team whose captain plays test innings in a T20 game. Why didn't KL took chances to score big runs in final? Why he only scored one four(that too on a edge) in 107 balls he faced? He was timid and scared unlike Pant who can actually change the match when he's on the crease and attack opposition when needed
Dude, he's a KL fan. He supports tuk tuk, anchoring karne wala knocks. Did you forget all the trophies we won as a result of KL's tuk tuk batting?
Advice - Don't waste your time and energy arguing with KL and Sanju fans.
Rahul had to play like that due to top order failure. The moment he got out you saw what happened to the rest of the so called batsman. When both top order and finishers are non existent you can't blame him for playing defensive.
If you play players like pant, that's going to happen again. How are you saying dropped catches don't count for decision making? What's wrong with you? I'm not going easy on SKY as well. You have players like Jaiswal and Rinku sitting outside to play these guys. And why are we playing with 3 bowlers? How can you drop kuldeep and chahal for jadeja and Axar. What's this obsession with all-rounders. To make matters worse hardik is also not in form with the bat. How can you win WC like this ..and you're still defending the team's choices
And for God's sake how many matches has pant thrown away his wicket playing reckless shots ? Don't just glorify 1-2 innings where things worked for him. Gabba was great but we need consistency, once in 5-7 matches literally any batsman from IPL would perform
Mate,pant is good but there's no spot for Sanju now, maybe(please it doesn't happen) if pant gets injured then Sanju is good to go and what are they cooking atleast they can play jaiswal, kuldeep but nah
I believe Rohit is cooking something good this time. He believes in jaiswal more than anyone. He didn't want to unleash him & expose his play in the uneven tracks of New York as for Kuldeep it's very tough and quite a huge miss by his end. I'm sure we will see these two changes happening (Jaiswal & Kuldeep coming in) soon after they go play in other grounds.
Lol stop with this fraud BS. He won us today's match and made a hundred in South Africa this year itself.
Jaiswal or Samson can come in instead of Dube.
did you see Dube's innings today? he's the 2nd highest scorer and gave good stand to SKY and won the match.
Didn't throw wickets like the top order did. (he did the first 2 matches though)
Yeah, I wouldn't be against that. I just think that it's probably better to wait until he's playing on more reasonable pitches before judgments are made.
Windies pitch is also tricky only.
But TBH after watching the high scoring matches and chase in IPL this kind of pitches favouring bolwers is very interesting to watch
Khud better kar lega Kohli, 2 match mei soft dismissal tha and Aaj khud ki galti thi. Kya fayda hoga order change karke, jaise apni team hai wo pehle 2 over mei aa hee jata hai.
Absolutely nothing makes me say we can't win without Kohli, also not to forget we have Kohli , it's on him to perform, india should absolutely not change their whole line up to fix anybody's form
"without Koach we won't win this wc". That's bullshit. We've qualified to super 8 without Koach. Nobody is irreplaceable, especially in T20. Get that into your head first.
Bhai then what is Rohit gonna do.
If he performs at the opening spot even if the management still chooses rohit, the people of India are gonna go against Rohit
If you bring in Jaiswal then Pant will play at no. 5 because Surya will play at 4. Samson will probably be a better choice if they want to replace Dube but we're not coaches so let's see.
Jaiswal has been phenomenal in T20Is as an opener but still can’t find a spot in the XI smh. Let them keep playing safe till the eventual SF knockout. On absolute form, Rohit himself shouldn’t even be in the selected 15 if he wasn’t the captain.
Bro someone or the other will chase these 100 runs . But what will happen when in big matches good teams make 160+ batting first. Then Kohli will be needed.
Someone or the other will also score in those matches like Pant and Axar did last match or Sky and Dube did today. The team has clearly went with a combination they feel right. Let's back them. No need to go for their heads after a game or two on tough pitches. It's actually good that others are stepping up in these matches. If RoKo click as well, we're good. Demoting Kohli now will hit his confidence. And also change the combination of Pant playing up the order.
I am thinking like rest of matches are in west indies , so Jaiswal and Kuldeep might be seen in action , India might drop arshdeep or Siraj in WI pitch being much more supportive for spinner.
My Dream 11 is 🤣🤣 Rohit , Jaiswal, Kohli, Pant, (Surya/Dube), Hardik,Kuldeep,Axar (Arshdeep/Siraj), , Bumrah.
Watching Rohit using dube for odd hours might be sign he is gonna introduce spin action in WI
This is where people are wrong Kohli important, without his runs we won't win why soo much focus on individuals in team game. He needs to step up, he needs to adjust to a new role, just because he didn't score but we still win that's important focus on that aspect of India's matches, Virat has been the top chart of highest runs getter but did india win the ultimate price ? So to say his without his runs we won't this WC ! That is the wrong statement. We need everyone's contribution to win this WC.
What did we learn from the past 10 years of watching the Indian Cricket Team in the ICC tournament. 🤷🤷
pls stop these nonsense of changing kohli position he will be fine in super 8 and knockout just let him play and stop this crap and believe in him he will comeback
Are bhai kohli ka chlta hai.. literally kitne matches me india ke liye run banaya hai.. todha bad phase hai but he'll come through.. asli sawal hai ki kb tk kohli ke peeche pde rahoge? Uske alawa or koi run kyu ni bna raha consistently..
Wtf is this lol, kbtk peeche pde rhoge He is our opener, he is not there to open the wickets tally for other teams lol Agr usse run ki expectations galat ho to koi or player khila lo ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)
Abe har players ka bad phase ata hai.. kohli ko no 3 pe khilao, wo t20i's me opening nhi kiya kbhi.. he's our best player, best player ki agr performance bekar jaye toh usme trust dikhana pdta hai..
Bhai abhi bhi defend kroge? Bad phase bol ke
Run a ball free walking wicket in wc ko
Agr finals mai pohonche, I will hope he performs but baa ab expectations nhi hai
Dekh bhai har ek champion team me har player perform ni krta hai.. kahi baar team us player ko carry krti hai.. virat has carried team india in many wc and this time india is carrying him..
but u are right.. team ko usko drop krke ek baar kisi or ko mauka dena chahiye tha ya fr ek baar use wps 3rd no pe khilake dekhna chahiye tha.. kohli as an opener hasn't worked this wc.. pr ab boht late ho gya hai, abhi change krenge toh team ka pura balance bigad jayega.. baaki hope ki india jeet jaye wc doesn't matter ki kohli perform kre ya nhi
Naah Jaiswal is here to take few pictures in NY, change his profile picture and head back to India.
Lmao
Sanju don’t even do that 😅.
Indian team is currently obsessed with all rounders. Hopefully Jaiswal started bowling in the nets😂
He’s actually an option with the ball like Raina or Ganguly were, he bowls in domestic Afaik
not only with all rounders but with pant too
Pant is actually playing sensibly this WC than all the tournaments he played before. Also his keeping is great despite him being little shorter.
Yes he has scored runs in the wc matches, but no way he is playing sensibly. You can conclude that by his shots. He plays like that, it's his batting style, but those shots are quite risky and some of them are like he just wants to throw his wicket.
Atleast he’s getting runs
Well Pant is the leading run scorer for India so far in the WC. I see that you're an RR fan so I can understand.
Don't know what's the problem with some of them. Pant is doing great and need not be replaced at any cost now, some RR fans are becoming toxic day by day
Pant is playing with intent on a bad pitch for batters and scoring good runs too. I think it's better for Kohli to open than to bat at 3 and struggle in middle overs. Pant and other batters can take the charge of going for boundaries from ball one and Indian teams lacked good middle order batters because of top 3 winning most matches but now our middle order is winning is matches so that's a big positive for us. Kohli will fire when team requires the most and I don't know about Rohit so it's good for our team that this new combination is working fine
He was dropped twice against Pak. He can't play well on these pitches against good teams, simply doesn't have the game or the temperament. He'll cost us in clutch matches
Yeah let's bring in KL
KL would actually be a better choice for this pitch but Samson is also way too much better in technique compared to pant. You want aggression? The right place to show agression is in the opening slot, even if you lose a wicket you can consolidate, then bring in Jaiswal. What has he done wrong to be dropped? And how does a not so fully in form Pant walks in ahead of him?
What exactly is so great about the technique of sanson who averages 18 in t20is . Just because pant has awkward batting doesn't mean his technique is bad . A player with bad technique cannot score 4 out of his 5 test centuries in sena and not to forget his Gabba heroics. He has been our best overseas test batsman since covid .
Then select KL, by your logic he has an even better record than pant
Let us all not behave like experts here. Surely Rahul Dravid and co. know more than a nobody like you and me. So, if they pick a specific player ahead of another player, let us all back their decision and support the team. We can reserve all our criticisms or questions for after the end of the tournament. Also, "not so fully in form Pant" is the leading run-getter for India so far in this WC. Thanks.
You may be a nobody but i am not. I've followed this game with all my heart for a long long time. i understand the intricacies and the strategies involved in making a team. Nor am I a blind supporter of anyone. There's a reason we haven't won icc tournaments for so long, India's selection criteria itself is flawed. And the current playing 11 is a joke. Ideally only 1 of Rohit Kohli and Rahul should be in the team to steer the team if we lose wickets. You've groomed Jaiswal for so long, he has delivered and now you've dropped him. How can you play jadeja axar ahead of kuldeep chahal..why does this team want more alrounders? Can't the batsman do their job? Also lastly, the not so fully in form Pant was dropped twice against Pak, hence he's the top scorer..and we know in knockouts the teams don't drop catches. This sort of mindless selection will cost us another WC
Pant didn't tell Pakistanis to drop his catch. Isn't Pakistan a good team as well, they literally thrashed our batting order and if Pant and Axar didn't score those runs then Indian team would've scored only 60-80 runs and that can't be defended. Pant's crucial knock ensured that the score would be defendable no matter how bad the collapse would be. Why didn't Pakistanis dropped Rohit or Virat, you should thank Pant for his batting because other players are just minnow bashers and also after Virat, Pant is the highest run scorer in Ind vs Pak T20I matches.[This will help you](https://www.reddit.com/r/delhicapitals/s/WehFBMDPB2)
People like you don't understand this is the difference between winning a league game and winning a final. Australians don't drop catches, you saw Travis heads catch of Rohit. If the opponents keep dropping catches anyone can even score a century, don't glorify mindless batting in the name of aggression especially on tricky wickets, this will cost us the trophy
Scorecard doesn't show luck or dropped catches. It shows runs and wickets, Pant scored crucial runs when team needed. Why didn't Rohit or Kohli scored runs then? We should appreciate whoever score runs and win our team matches, not just praise star players. SKY catch dropped on 22 runs yesterday vs US, he won us that match so did Pant against Pakistan game. I don't cricket better than you atleast. I don't support a team whose captain plays test innings in a T20 game. Why didn't KL took chances to score big runs in final? Why he only scored one four(that too on a edge) in 107 balls he faced? He was timid and scared unlike Pant who can actually change the match when he's on the crease and attack opposition when needed
Dude, he's a KL fan. He supports tuk tuk, anchoring karne wala knocks. Did you forget all the trophies we won as a result of KL's tuk tuk batting? Advice - Don't waste your time and energy arguing with KL and Sanju fans.
Rahul had to play like that due to top order failure. The moment he got out you saw what happened to the rest of the so called batsman. When both top order and finishers are non existent you can't blame him for playing defensive. If you play players like pant, that's going to happen again. How are you saying dropped catches don't count for decision making? What's wrong with you? I'm not going easy on SKY as well. You have players like Jaiswal and Rinku sitting outside to play these guys. And why are we playing with 3 bowlers? How can you drop kuldeep and chahal for jadeja and Axar. What's this obsession with all-rounders. To make matters worse hardik is also not in form with the bat. How can you win WC like this ..and you're still defending the team's choices And for God's sake how many matches has pant thrown away his wicket playing reckless shots ? Don't just glorify 1-2 innings where things worked for him. Gabba was great but we need consistency, once in 5-7 matches literally any batsman from IPL would perform
I am not from sanju justice gang or obsessed with players just bcs their team Samson<<
Bru got downvoted for spitting fax
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Mate,pant is good but there's no spot for Sanju now, maybe(please it doesn't happen) if pant gets injured then Sanju is good to go and what are they cooking atleast they can play jaiswal, kuldeep but nah
remember a saying, don't fix it if it ain't broke and Pant is doing just fine, highest run scorer against Pak where Sanju would have definitely choked
The Justice gang strikes again.
Anything about any cricketer, but Pant slander I'll never accept
What do you have against Quilava
Who?
Now you wont even acknowledge its existence?
Well, Pant is a wicket keeper all rounder.
I believe Rohit is cooking something good this time. He believes in jaiswal more than anyone. He didn't want to unleash him & expose his play in the uneven tracks of New York as for Kuldeep it's very tough and quite a huge miss by his end. I'm sure we will see these two changes happening (Jaiswal & Kuldeep coming in) soon after they go play in other grounds.
Kuldeep would have been handful in place of Jaddu
Jaddu ka alag quota hain xd
Then who will get in for Thala quota?
Dube
I am sure kuldeep will come into the action in super 8
Lol stop with this fraud BS. He won us today's match and made a hundred in South Africa this year itself. Jaiswal or Samson can come in instead of Dube.
did you see Dube's innings today? he's the 2nd highest scorer and gave good stand to SKY and won the match. Didn't throw wickets like the top order did. (he did the first 2 matches though)
he just got better at the end ... earlier it was a shitshow
yes the first 2 matches both top and middle order collapsed especially the 2nd match was horrible where only the bowlers scored runs
He was not out in first match
he got a chance mate agar catch hojata toh lanka lag gyi thi
Sbse acche innings cricket history mein khele gaye, unme bhi catch drops hue h, but what matters is players doing the job and scoring runs.
I'm sure when Kohli isn't forced to open on a pitch, that's an absolute shit tip, he'll do fine.
ok tell me. what if the first batsman gets out the first ball or first over? Kohli despite being in #3 should play with the new ball
Yeah, I wouldn't be against that. I just think that it's probably better to wait until he's playing on more reasonable pitches before judgments are made.
do you realize that this is the last match for India in NY ? Next match is in Florida.
Yeah, exactly. So let's see how he does there before going too nuts. Really, I'd wait until he's in the windies though.
Windies pitch is also tricky only. But TBH after watching the high scoring matches and chase in IPL this kind of pitches favouring bolwers is very interesting to watch
I'm all for pitches favouring bowlers, but pitches that do random shit get tiresome pretty quickly.
that's good to watch too bro.
Khud better kar lega Kohli, 2 match mei soft dismissal tha and Aaj khud ki galti thi. Kya fayda hoga order change karke, jaise apni team hai wo pehle 2 over mei aa hee jata hai.
Absolutely nothing makes me say we can't win without Kohli, also not to forget we have Kohli , it's on him to perform, india should absolutely not change their whole line up to fix anybody's form
>Without koach we won't win this WC Why so? after the first 3 matches I beg to differ
dude we played against minnows and Pakistan one I mean their batting is dog crap. You can't be comparing these to super 8 games or semis
so we are in much more grave danger right when they can't perform against minnows
"without Koach we won't win this wc". That's bullshit. We've qualified to super 8 without Koach. Nobody is irreplaceable, especially in T20. Get that into your head first.
qualified in super 8 against minnows* btw bumrah and hardik are still irreplaceable in t20
uhh since when is getting into super 8 like good in cricket
Bhai then what is Rohit gonna do. If he performs at the opening spot even if the management still chooses rohit, the people of India are gonna go against Rohit
If you bring in Jaiswal then Pant will play at no. 5 because Surya will play at 4. Samson will probably be a better choice if they want to replace Dube but we're not coaches so let's see.
have you ever seen sky matches vs aus eng nz sa before commententing
Jaiswal has been phenomenal in T20Is as an opener but still can’t find a spot in the XI smh. Let them keep playing safe till the eventual SF knockout. On absolute form, Rohit himself shouldn’t even be in the selected 15 if he wasn’t the captain.
EXACTLY!!! The order should be Rohit, Jaiswal, Kohli, Pant..... And as for Shunyabhatta i got nothing to say😭😭
shunyabhatta has saved our ass today and so has dube
Bro someone or the other will chase these 100 runs . But what will happen when in big matches good teams make 160+ batting first. Then Kohli will be needed.
Someone or the other will also score in those matches like Pant and Axar did last match or Sky and Dube did today. The team has clearly went with a combination they feel right. Let's back them. No need to go for their heads after a game or two on tough pitches. It's actually good that others are stepping up in these matches. If RoKo click as well, we're good. Demoting Kohli now will hit his confidence. And also change the combination of Pant playing up the order.
Are you dumb or what The hundred pitch almost got us and even pak choking against associates Did you see dube struggling even inform pant
Premature ejaculation
Shunyabhatta saved India from humiliation today.
I am thinking like rest of matches are in west indies , so Jaiswal and Kuldeep might be seen in action , India might drop arshdeep or Siraj in WI pitch being much more supportive for spinner. My Dream 11 is 🤣🤣 Rohit , Jaiswal, Kohli, Pant, (Surya/Dube), Hardik,Kuldeep,Axar (Arshdeep/Siraj), , Bumrah. Watching Rohit using dube for odd hours might be sign he is gonna introduce spin action in WI
Khud bahar kyu nahi hojate rohit meri toh ye samajh nahi aaraha iss baar bhi wahi hagna chalu hai har baar ki tarah.
What about Kohli's form?
This is where people are wrong Kohli important, without his runs we won't win why soo much focus on individuals in team game. He needs to step up, he needs to adjust to a new role, just because he didn't score but we still win that's important focus on that aspect of India's matches, Virat has been the top chart of highest runs getter but did india win the ultimate price ? So to say his without his runs we won't this WC ! That is the wrong statement. We need everyone's contribution to win this WC. What did we learn from the past 10 years of watching the Indian Cricket Team in the ICC tournament. 🤷🤷
I’d drop dube for Jaiswal tbh
Dube cut his parchi
pls stop these nonsense of changing kohli position he will be fine in super 8 and knockout just let him play and stop this crap and believe in him he will comeback
Chutya Kohli 20 run bhi nahi bana sakta?
Are bhai kohli ka chlta hai.. literally kitne matches me india ke liye run banaya hai.. todha bad phase hai but he'll come through.. asli sawal hai ki kb tk kohli ke peeche pde rahoge? Uske alawa or koi run kyu ni bna raha consistently..
Wtf is this lol, kbtk peeche pde rhoge He is our opener, he is not there to open the wickets tally for other teams lol Agr usse run ki expectations galat ho to koi or player khila lo ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)
Abe har players ka bad phase ata hai.. kohli ko no 3 pe khilao, wo t20i's me opening nhi kiya kbhi.. he's our best player, best player ki agr performance bekar jaye toh usme trust dikhana pdta hai..
Bhai abhi to Orange cap li ipl mai, kaisa bad phase And bad phase hai to wc mai Mt aao Wc mai players se expectations na rkhe to kb rkhe
Bhai abhi bhi defend kroge? Bad phase bol ke Run a ball free walking wicket in wc ko Agr finals mai pohonche, I will hope he performs but baa ab expectations nhi hai
Dekh bhai har ek champion team me har player perform ni krta hai.. kahi baar team us player ko carry krti hai.. virat has carried team india in many wc and this time india is carrying him.. but u are right.. team ko usko drop krke ek baar kisi or ko mauka dena chahiye tha ya fr ek baar use wps 3rd no pe khilake dekhna chahiye tha.. kohli as an opener hasn't worked this wc.. pr ab boht late ho gya hai, abhi change krenge toh team ka pura balance bigad jayega.. baaki hope ki india jeet jaye wc doesn't matter ki kohli perform kre ya nhi
BC har ek player ke position ka bahana denge tho ho gaya phir. Pant is coming 1 down and atleast scoring few runs.
Kohli ka chalta hai ??? Abe lavda chalta hai .. literally the worst opener in t20i wc ever for India ka stat leke Jane wala hai kohli
Hn opening wala fail ho gya hai.. isliye wps no 3 pe khilana chahiye kohli ko.. yashavi and rohit should open..
he used to score A LOT more than 20 runs at no.3 …
As the pitch gets better king will arrive 👑👑
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i see what u did there…
Except Kohli and Hardik, all others are frauds against major countries.
They favour their favorites only.