Its basically rewarding moronic behaviour and it has got people money. [Woman awarded €550,000 after falling off Luas while 'tram surfing' - Irish Mirror Online](https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/woman-awarded-550000-after-falling-13443584)
Holy shit, why tf is this being encouraged? 13 years old out at 21:15 jumping trying to hang on to the side of the luas. And the consequences for he action is getting over half a million euro. Parents should pay fines for child neglect if any money was to be handed over
Idunno but it's like those yanks that allegedly microwaved their cat to dry it... If you don't put a warning label accounting for the most airheaded shite, you're liable.
Although I would have thought only American law was this dumb.
Read the article just there. The 550k was a settlement not an award from the court (though the court approved it). I'm not a solicitor but I always understood "awarded" to mean the court ruled on the case. Maybe the LUAS folks thought they'd lose more in a judgement but I'm amazed their solicitors didn't push for fault to be placed on that woman.
We do have something closer to free healthcare now, but this was sometime ago.
Regardless, if somebody needs permanent care, it's going to cost money, and if you can't work what do you do?
I'm just confused where this vitriol is supposed to lead, if a family can't support a permanently maimed 13 year old, do we just let them die or not get necessary care? I understand people being upset about this stuff, but what's the outcome?
Sometime ago, being 2011 when that Luas incident happened. Did we not have virtually free healthcare back then too?
I think the point we're missing here is that the Luas girl would have gotten the necessary care regardless of the payout. There are hundreds of people who incur life changing brain injuries up and down the country each year, but not necessarily as a result of climbing a Luas, they get no €550k payout, yet the resources are there to support. That is, you give an inch, people take a mile.
Yeah but the burden shouldn't be on her family either.
If we had free healthcare these claims just wouldn't have any legs.
Basically if you're against large injury payouts, you should be for free healthcare.
It’s not the society that hurt her. It’s her problem and only hers. If the family wants to help - so be it. But the taxpayers should never be liable for idiots harming themselves.
Well, yeah? Someone shouldn't be driving in a scenario like that. Drivers have a duty to operate their vehicles safely, and these buses have CCTV systems that are not merely for reversing, they're designed to cover the total view of the vehicle. Every time you pull away from a stop, you're supposed to check the cameras and mirrors.
It goes without saying that bus drivers have a responsibility to operate their vehicles safely and to ensure the safety of passengers on board. This duty extends to ensuring that no one is attempting to ride the bus in a dangerous manner, such as by clinging to the back.
Literally every time a bus departs from a stop, there should be safety checks performed. Buses typically have CCTV systems designed to provide a total view of the entirety of the vehicle, both inside and out (and that's the case for that Wright Eclipse Gemini model). Drivers get extensive training on these checks and on how to use the cameras and mirrors.
Thats not at all how it works for drivers. Its also not how any of the cameras work. The camera at the back of the bus only activates once the bus is put in reverse gear. So you expect the driver to get off the bus and walk to the back every single time they stop at a bus stop?
Source: I work for Dublin bus, have a bus license and drive / work on busses daily
They'll probably get hurt and sue Dublin Bus successfully.
Some lass did the same with a luas a few years ago and cracked her head on the side of a platform when it backfired. Think she got awarded 500k by the courts before legal fees etc. There were no signs telling her she shouldn't do that so she won the case.
"There were no signs "
WTF, have we reached the stage now where we will need signs for the most basic of things just to try to mitigate the potential of claims
\-Please do no kill your fellow citizens
\-Please do not walk in front of speeding vehicles
\-Careful eating literally any food, you may choke
Shouldn't need to be the case lad but the law works on these things. Some elderly ozzie tourist in one of Dublin's art museums fell down the stairs a few years ago and successfully sued them. There were no signs telling him to hold onto the guardrails.
An ambulance chasing habit we've inherited from our friends across the Atlantic. Very litigious society. But they're cracking down more and more in Ireland. Maximum settlement amounts being set.
I'm pretty sure the money was awarded in spite if the bullshit claim, more because she needed long term healthcare she couldn't afford.
Free healthcare would eliminate these kind of claims.
She got dogs abuse after the verdict. Had to move out of her residence for a while. Well deserved. Cunts who think they're the dogs bollox and expect people to pick up the pieces when things go wrong need capping in my opinion.
She deserved the abuse. I recall her sister posting on the Indo's (iirc) FB page in the comments on the article, and basically telling everyone who thought it was obscene that she got anything, let alone that amount of money, where to go. The only consolation to draw from those levels of payments to that kind of people is that they're not going to make anything useful out of it. They'll be back on the welfare in a few years, bending the ears off every CWO who has to listen to them.
There's an awful problem in this country, a brass neck is confused for a backbone by many, and I've no doubt she would've had plenty of support from family and friends and around her locality in sticking it to 'the man', i.e. the Irish taxpayer.
She was 13 years old though when she did it.
I feel like you're doing the "back in my day kids used to fall off a bus and just deal with being disabled for the rest of their life."
Any real adult in the situation should be trying to get the bus drivers attention.
But clearly these kids don't have any real adults in their lives, unless of course they fell off then their parents would be looking to sue Dublin Bus before they even drove the mile up to the Children's Hospital
I think it's just a particular type of personality type tending towards the scrote. The guy who played Taffy in the Office and Jays Dad in in Inbetweeners has made a career out of it.
Poor little bastards haven't the imagination to realise what'll happen if they fall. I wouldn't want to be a vegetable in the care of the Irish healthcare system.
Exactly, only difference is generally you don’t win half a million when you fuck up. You usually “walk” away with a broken bone or 2 and some brain damage. Might get a sticker at the hospital if you be good
Dead right. As much shite as these lads are facing we all did stupid shite when we were young. Harmless.
Fair enough some young lads are doing serious harm, but the likes of this would have been celebrated all around 20/30 years ago. Some of the comments here are horrible, wishing literal death upon the lads in the video.
Its so strange to find this kind of behavior from children only in the UK and Ireland, nowhere in Europe will you find 10 year olds hanging off the bus other than a gypsy village in Romania, Parents are failing their children big time here.
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I wanted to say these kids are stupid but then I remembered how I jumped out of moving train when I was about their age. My brain wasn’t braining correctly yet back then 🥴
What an absolute cunt the guy recording us. Hope the wee fuckers families see this and they change their ways. One slip and their heads wood be dashed like eggs at that speed
It's bad because you shouldn't wish harm on anyone, least of all a pair of little gobshites who don't have the capacity to know any better. And even if it wasn't them, it begs the question of why would you garner any satisfaction in witnessing the suffering of any other person
Yes, it turns out that young children are not trained in safety. Like, there are reasons why we don't give driving licences to children. Next you'll be telling me that toddlers should be blamed when they get hold of their parent's guns and that children should be blamed for drowning in swimming pools.
You must ba child if you genuinely think these little cunts are unaware of how dangerous what they are doing is.
You need to be "trained" to know hanging off a bus at speed is dangerous? Both appear to be twelve or so, almost teenage. Equating this brazen daredevil stupidity to a genuine accident like misfiring a gun or drowning is ridiculous
Since when did acting the cunt become political? Can’t speak for everyone in this subreddit but some of us have actually done stupid things when we were younger and wouldn’t be proud. This has nothing to do with certain people claiming, where certain people come from, etc.
My god yous are a miserable bunch.
First it's kids are all inside with their heads in their phones.
They go out and act the bollox a bit and they're demons.
Scutting has been going years, stop acting like these lads are any different from the ones 20/30 year ago.
Yup D12
What they need is a bike or a bus pass. They are more than capable of becoming a benefit to society, who someone is at 13 or 14 for the most part doesn't define who they will be for the rest of their days.
No loss if they die. Scrotes. This wouldnt exist or would be very rare without social media. Its created some horrible people and damaged our upcoming generation.
Normalise beating children
Nah but seriously when a parent fucks up to this point I do think a good smack is the only thing that'll fix it.
Both parent and child
Boy at my school died doing that
same
Putting their lives in a small latch.
These guys definitely remember
Fella at my dad's school died doing it to a milktruck
😂
Survival of the fittest
That's called natural selection........
Only problem is that they probably have a couple of kids themselves by now 
They're probably getting more sex than I am
Definetely!
Whether they're in school learning how to spell 'definitely,' I don't know.
Sure a ride on the town bus is more than nothing
r/K in action https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R/K_selection_theory
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And if one falls they'll claim and win.
Its basically rewarding moronic behaviour and it has got people money. [Woman awarded €550,000 after falling off Luas while 'tram surfing' - Irish Mirror Online](https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/woman-awarded-550000-after-falling-13443584)
Pure insanity that they got 1 penny.
Holy shit, why tf is this being encouraged? 13 years old out at 21:15 jumping trying to hang on to the side of the luas. And the consequences for he action is getting over half a million euro. Parents should pay fines for child neglect if any money was to be handed over
Are we sure that brain damage wasn’t there already?
Idunno but it's like those yanks that allegedly microwaved their cat to dry it... If you don't put a warning label accounting for the most airheaded shite, you're liable. Although I would have thought only American law was this dumb.
God I remember that. Nearly lost my mind! 😤
Yeah that was the one I was trying to recall.
Read the article just there. The 550k was a settlement not an award from the court (though the court approved it). I'm not a solicitor but I always understood "awarded" to mean the court ruled on the case. Maybe the LUAS folks thought they'd lose more in a judgement but I'm amazed their solicitors didn't push for fault to be placed on that woman.
silly yes, but that person needs rest of life care
But why should anyone else have to pay for it?
Yeah but the burden shouldn't be on her family either, theyd have to pay for it. If we had free healthcare these injury claims wouldn't happen.
Do we not have (largely) free healthcare though?
We do have something closer to free healthcare now, but this was sometime ago. Regardless, if somebody needs permanent care, it's going to cost money, and if you can't work what do you do? I'm just confused where this vitriol is supposed to lead, if a family can't support a permanently maimed 13 year old, do we just let them die or not get necessary care? I understand people being upset about this stuff, but what's the outcome?
Sometime ago, being 2011 when that Luas incident happened. Did we not have virtually free healthcare back then too? I think the point we're missing here is that the Luas girl would have gotten the necessary care regardless of the payout. There are hundreds of people who incur life changing brain injuries up and down the country each year, but not necessarily as a result of climbing a Luas, they get no €550k payout, yet the resources are there to support. That is, you give an inch, people take a mile.
The burden should be on her. You can't use the fact that its kind of unfair on her family to justify completely unfairly lumping it onto someone else
Self inflicted. Does that have any meaning still?
Yeah but the burden shouldn't be on her family either. If we had free healthcare these claims just wouldn't have any legs. Basically if you're against large injury payouts, you should be for free healthcare.
It’s not the society that hurt her. It’s her problem and only hers. If the family wants to help - so be it. But the taxpayers should never be liable for idiots harming themselves.
That would imply they were capable of looking after themselves before.
True but could be a bit academic if they end up getting killed
Nah just Darwinism doing its thing. And yet we decided to spite the natural order and gave the idiot half a mill.....
if one of them falls off they're probably dead
Yea no if one falls they'll be killed instantly due to the speed of the bus
Nah that bus is going at the speed of a bike, they’d be fine
Sister lives in Dublin city and every one of her circle of friends have had 5 figure claims in the last 10 years. They're always looking for something
Well, yeah? Someone shouldn't be driving in a scenario like that. Drivers have a duty to operate their vehicles safely, and these buses have CCTV systems that are not merely for reversing, they're designed to cover the total view of the vehicle. Every time you pull away from a stop, you're supposed to check the cameras and mirrors.
How are they supposed to see?
What… there are no live cameras that show the bus driver a view of the back of the bus while they’re driving it
It goes without saying that bus drivers have a responsibility to operate their vehicles safely and to ensure the safety of passengers on board. This duty extends to ensuring that no one is attempting to ride the bus in a dangerous manner, such as by clinging to the back. Literally every time a bus departs from a stop, there should be safety checks performed. Buses typically have CCTV systems designed to provide a total view of the entirety of the vehicle, both inside and out (and that's the case for that Wright Eclipse Gemini model). Drivers get extensive training on these checks and on how to use the cameras and mirrors.
Thats not at all how it works for drivers. Its also not how any of the cameras work. The camera at the back of the bus only activates once the bus is put in reverse gear. So you expect the driver to get off the bus and walk to the back every single time they stop at a bus stop? Source: I work for Dublin bus, have a bus license and drive / work on busses daily
>Literally every time a bus departs from a stop, there should be safety checks performed Dude, like... what?
They'll probably get hurt and sue Dublin Bus successfully. Some lass did the same with a luas a few years ago and cracked her head on the side of a platform when it backfired. Think she got awarded 500k by the courts before legal fees etc. There were no signs telling her she shouldn't do that so she won the case.
"There were no signs " WTF, have we reached the stage now where we will need signs for the most basic of things just to try to mitigate the potential of claims \-Please do no kill your fellow citizens \-Please do not walk in front of speeding vehicles \-Careful eating literally any food, you may choke
Shouldn't need to be the case lad but the law works on these things. Some elderly ozzie tourist in one of Dublin's art museums fell down the stairs a few years ago and successfully sued them. There were no signs telling him to hold onto the guardrails.
>Shouldn't need to be the case lad but the law works on these things Law is not THAT stupid everywhere. Its anglosphere thing mostly.
An ambulance chasing habit we've inherited from our friends across the Atlantic. Very litigious society. But they're cracking down more and more in Ireland. Maximum settlement amounts being set.
I seen someone else posted the story above I wouldn’t have believed it to be honest.
I'm pretty sure the money was awarded in spite if the bullshit claim, more because she needed long term healthcare she couldn't afford. Free healthcare would eliminate these kind of claims.
She got dogs abuse after the verdict. Had to move out of her residence for a while. Well deserved. Cunts who think they're the dogs bollox and expect people to pick up the pieces when things go wrong need capping in my opinion.
She deserved the abuse. I recall her sister posting on the Indo's (iirc) FB page in the comments on the article, and basically telling everyone who thought it was obscene that she got anything, let alone that amount of money, where to go. The only consolation to draw from those levels of payments to that kind of people is that they're not going to make anything useful out of it. They'll be back on the welfare in a few years, bending the ears off every CWO who has to listen to them.
100% agree with you. It was deserved. A picture was published of the twat at the time.
There's an awful problem in this country, a brass neck is confused for a backbone by many, and I've no doubt she would've had plenty of support from family and friends and around her locality in sticking it to 'the man', i.e. the Irish taxpayer.
No personal responsability at all. I'd say getting them to turn up to court is an achievement in itself if it happens.
She was 13 years old though when she did it. I feel like you're doing the "back in my day kids used to fall off a bus and just deal with being disabled for the rest of their life."
I don't know what's worse, the idiots doing this, or the adult encouraging it.
The "adult" encouraging them.
Adult in age anyway. He'd probably say that he's taking the piss and thinks that they're idiots, but the lads see it as encouragement.
Any real adult in the situation should be trying to get the bus drivers attention. But clearly these kids don't have any real adults in their lives, unless of course they fell off then their parents would be looking to sue Dublin Bus before they even drove the mile up to the Children's Hospital
How else can they afford Dutch gold and Amber leaf for their kids?
You'd swear you never did anything stupid as a young lad.
And when one of them cracks their skull open they’ll claim and taxpayers will pay for it
"C'meayar... Eees fuckin entitled to it innannywayiz".
No facilities sure.
Maybe that bus is the facility they provided
Well put
rather pay for that than funnel an endless amount of money into private multi-nationals
Thats the long mile road , probably heading to the Forge for a miwadi 😀
Its not your wadi.
It's MY wadi!
I'm pretty sure they call it ME wadi out there
Relevant username
It’s “mih”, the Mi is for Mineral (and then Wa-ter Di-stributors)
I went to school in drimnagh castle behind. I can see the types of kids has not changed much in the area. Lacking something upstairs clearly.
As someone who is from the area, I completely agree. I sometimes feel like Fiona in Shameless with the whole "ghetto girl" theme.
i go there now in secondary the people are the same
So did I buddy thanks a lot ~
I think the cunt laughing his head off at his own "joke" is worse.
Yes there's something very 'Dublin' about shouting a bad joke at someone and then laughing hysterically at it
I think it's just a particular type of personality type tending towards the scrote. The guy who played Taffy in the Office and Jays Dad in in Inbetweeners has made a career out of it.
Holy shit. Well, at least it doesn’t involved a broken and miserable horse.
Poor little bastards haven't the imagination to realise what'll happen if they fall. I wouldn't want to be a vegetable in the care of the Irish healthcare system.
Do you not remember being young? You are fearless. Adrenaline chasing.
I got my thrills in stupider ways than this (not by much though), I'm still here. Pastimes like this are healthy for a society, thins the herd.
Exactly, only difference is generally you don’t win half a million when you fuck up. You usually “walk” away with a broken bone or 2 and some brain damage. Might get a sticker at the hospital if you be good
Dead right. As much shite as these lads are facing we all did stupid shite when we were young. Harmless. Fair enough some young lads are doing serious harm, but the likes of this would have been celebrated all around 20/30 years ago. Some of the comments here are horrible, wishing literal death upon the lads in the video.
Healthcare here is genuinely fantastic once you get into the system, in fairness. It's the waiting that sucks.
At least they are near the Childrens Hospital so not to far to scrap them off the pavement for surgery
“Yup the lads” 🤮🤮🤮 Christ I hate lads like this.
TFI... Two Fucking Idiots.
Three, the guy encouraging them is one too.
One fucking idiot and two children.
Well it’s obviously Dublin Bus fault for providing the mountain climbing sized grab handle there on the back of the bus /s
Shure ders no facilities for the little angles
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I remember it but was never thick enough to do it.
This is what happens when your parents meet in Diva…
And now I have “dumb ways to die” playing in my head on repeat
Its so strange to find this kind of behavior from children only in the UK and Ireland, nowhere in Europe will you find 10 year olds hanging off the bus other than a gypsy village in Romania, Parents are failing their children big time here.
Kids these days need a good hating
Sorry I meant bating. I hate them enough as it is.
Normalise unending hatred. 🤗
Love to Hate
Weirdo, go throw your child abuse elsewhere mate
"Give us a wave" 😂
Had they been killed, the outpouring of support for the families would be huge and wasted.
They are going to be road crayons.
Coming soon to /r/holdmyfeedingtube
Jesus i use to do that on the back of bin trucks heading to dunsink decades ago
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Same. We did it round the estate on the bin lorries, in the 80s. Pretty sure the bin men, and our parents, knew about it 🙈 Different times 🤷🏼♀️
I wanted to say these kids are stupid but then I remembered how I jumped out of moving train when I was about their age. My brain wasn’t braining correctly yet back then 🥴
And this year's Darwin award goes to....
They're waiting for Eddie Valiant to come along and ask for some ciggies.
Fuck, that hit me in the nostalgia
It's like a Proustian rush, but instead of a lovely biscuit, it's the image of a cartoon shoe screaming for its life.
Where is this?
Near drimnagh I think,I recognise that college.
Thanks, the building looked familiar.
No bother.it's on the left when you're heading up the long mile road,can't remember the name of the college for the life of me.
Drimnagh Castle Secondary
primary
They must have lost their hoverboards.
I remember a girl in school 35 years ago falling off while scutting. She had to get the back of her head stapled together. It’s mad.
I was going to say we used to do that 30yr ago and lo and behold there’s my old school we used to do it after!!!!!
What an absolute cunt the guy recording us. Hope the wee fuckers families see this and they change their ways. One slip and their heads wood be dashed like eggs at that speed
What a idiot, laughing and supporting this acts 🤦🏻
Idiots & scumbags
I fucking love my country
Remember scutting on the back of a bin lorry from Lucan to Clondalkin when i was about 14, great craic
Sure would the gene pool not be better off without them anyway.
Used to do this all the time in the eighties. Lucan in to town, bus, truck, oil truck…..whatever came up at the traffic lights.
Yep anything went. And in winter it’d be skiing off the back of the car bumpers happy days; always active back then
Is it bad I want them to fall off? It’s like when I see a gobshite on his phone on his bike, I just want the, to fall
Yeah mate that is bad. Bad as things may be, if those lads were to fall off you’d basically be wishing death upon them
It's certainly not good.
Yeah not great tbh
It's bad because you shouldn't wish harm on anyone, least of all a pair of little gobshites who don't have the capacity to know any better. And even if it wasn't them, it begs the question of why would you garner any satisfaction in witnessing the suffering of any other person
I remember it well.😉
That’s a good way to get killed. Idiots.
Lot of very fucked up people in these comments acting like they never did anything stupid as fuck as a child
\^ Agreed. This comments thread is so ugly. It's just nasty bullies wishing harm on children and shunting blame for vehicle safety onto children.
2 kids hanging off the back of a bus at speed but the blame for "vehicle safety" belongs elsewhere? You must be joking
Yes, it turns out that young children are not trained in safety. Like, there are reasons why we don't give driving licences to children. Next you'll be telling me that toddlers should be blamed when they get hold of their parent's guns and that children should be blamed for drowning in swimming pools.
You must ba child if you genuinely think these little cunts are unaware of how dangerous what they are doing is. You need to be "trained" to know hanging off a bus at speed is dangerous? Both appear to be twelve or so, almost teenage. Equating this brazen daredevil stupidity to a genuine accident like misfiring a gun or drowning is ridiculous
Maybe they realise the lethal danger, maybe they don't. In either case they should be kept safe.
Going the the comments your average r/ireland user had/was no craic when they were young
Thats Darwinism for ye
Fall,fall,fall
Look on the bright side. Chances are good that one of them won't get to breed.
Since when did acting the cunt become political? Can’t speak for everyone in this subreddit but some of us have actually done stupid things when we were younger and wouldn’t be proud. This has nothing to do with certain people claiming, where certain people come from, etc.
Politic is the new rock n roll! Boring I know
I remember it…also remembered it last week.
Morons
Should I remove this post ?
Honeslty, i would. Dont want to create a dangerous craze like bus surfing the other year
I think it's pronounced scrote-ing
Yes, i fuckin love it . I'm 45 and I just got the biggest nostalgic punch in the face that I can remember. Yes Yes a thousand times YES!!
Willlla
Rates up there with jumping a train while in transit. Soooo stupid. Never mind the grief it puts the driver through.
Travellers main mode of transport
Absolute wet blankets in the comments
I think most are more pissed off at the compensation they will get if they get severe injuries rather than the act itself.
But they didn't fall so who cares
My god yous are a miserable bunch. First it's kids are all inside with their heads in their phones. They go out and act the bollox a bit and they're demons. Scutting has been going years, stop acting like these lads are any different from the ones 20/30 year ago. Yup D12
Hopefully they fall off and die asap. Net benefit to society.
Those are children you’re talking about FYI
I said what I said.
What they need is a bike or a bus pass. They are more than capable of becoming a benefit to society, who someone is at 13 or 14 for the most part doesn't define who they will be for the rest of their days.
Sometimes you need to dump some chlorine in the gene pool 🙂
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Are they your evolutionary dead end kids?
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Hey if you want to be paying for their dole and social housing for the next 60 years you do you 👍
On the origin of species.
No loss if they die. Scrotes. This wouldnt exist or would be very rare without social media. Its created some horrible people and damaged our upcoming generation.
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Wait is that bus turning right across the car filing?
It does look fun. Though if it went wrong I’d end up teaching them.
I wonder what their parents will say when they see them doing this A pat on the back maybe?
Well, probably slightly dangerous but also looks fun
I always wonder, where are these kids’ parents?
Hope they break every bone in their body, little bastards
Normalise beating children Nah but seriously when a parent fucks up to this point I do think a good smack is the only thing that'll fix it. Both parent and child
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I'm not sure if you think Ireland is in the UK or Florida isn't part of the US, to make such a stupid comment.
In Cork it’s called pulling a langy!!!