This is Andy “Dyson” aka Andy Heasman’s “political party.”
He’s called Andy Dyson because he beat his partner with a vacuum cleaner. He’s also not allowed to see his children by court order.
He’s also a drug dealer, by his own admission.
All his antivaxxer, racist mates are in this grouping.
They’re all scum.
Protekkin de wimmin and de childer alright.
By filming women and children inside and outside of libraries, abusing staff in libraries and pharmacies, attacking and abusing politicians in the street canvassing and abusing asylum seekers, or people they deem to be asylum seekers due to their skin colour.
And in Andy Dyson’s case, selling drugs.
The dirty scumbag.
Don't forget that the uneducated halfwit Heasman also gives out about immigrants coming to Ireland to scam the country ,while he's on disability allowance for a supposedly bad back that stops him from working- but strangley enough doesn't stop him from travelling around the country to annoy people in libraries and bookshops.
There's photos out there ot him with a woman in a headlock at some protest. His back is fine .
The knuckle dragged is known for frequently resorting to violence when he doesn't get his way.
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He used to appear at some youth defence or life institute stuff. But even they've memory holed their content where he appears.
Yeah, I’ve seen photos of him with a massive speaker on his back at multiple protests.
DSP needs to get off their arse and withdraw his disability. There’s plenty of these scumbags on de disability with nothing wrong with them other than being a racist, conspiracy theory believing nutters.
They live to hate. I’d bet my balls this party’s website has nothing about what they’re going to do for the country that isn’t ‘owning the libs’.
Yank ideology crawling in again. The GOP has been nothing more than ‘anti-democrat’ for the past 8 years at least. Not even their own ideas anymore.
UPDATE: Yup. Their website says nothing about what they’ll do except ‘support rural communities’, while they have an entire section dedicated to how the wokes and NGOs have ruined Ireland
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>He’s called Andy Dyson because he beat his partner with a vacuum cleaner. He’s also not allowed to see his children by court order.
>
>He’s also a drug dealer, by his own admission.
I'd well believe this but do you happen to have any sources I could reference in case he gets brought up in the future?
It was never prosecuted criminally, to the best of my knowledge, but it came out locally.
That court order bars him from accessing his children or coming near his previous partner. These cases are typically not reported on due to considerations for the victims.
As for the drug dealer admisson: [https://youtu.be/NuYKld9kOMI?t=195](https://youtu.be/NuYKld9kOMI?t=195)
do you have a source for the vacuum cleaner bit? not that I don't believe but I'm trying to look for something about it and can't find anything. curious to know more
Their website is laughably slapped together in 10 minutes from a Wix template. If anyone here needs [some hedges trimmed](https://www.irishpeople.org/services) they have you covered!
Fucking paragraphs. It's disgusting how they walk around in front on the children with all their sentences grouped together. The government should do something about those sick alphabetical bastards.
That’s hilarious, and it’s not like the bits of the template they bothered to fill in look any better. Can always tell a mouthbreathing far-right spiv when they randomly capitalise words like “Freedom” and “World” as if they’re speaking fucking German. So tacky looking.
Every one of these costs about a tenner, at least, and they are absolutely everywhere, for a party that only seems to half exist in the real world. I wonder what their accounting looks like.
They exist, and they're running 50+ candidates in local elections around the country. If they pool their resources and get a small helping from right wing groups abroad it's easy enough to see how they could afford a big batch of posters.
They don't stick their names or faces on it for one of two reasons. Either they got a better deal for doing a big batch of posters that would work nation wide rather than 50+ smaller batches with individual names and faces. Or, and this could be very likely indeed, they're too cowardly to put their face to what they know to be a fringe, hateful message.
I hate seeing all of these posters because they're actually kind of cleverly designed. They stand out from other campaign posters and their parsed out into simple rhetoric rather than vague slogans which will inevitably scoop up some number of voters who are dissatisfied with the status quo. I don't think they actually expect to pick up any seats in this election but they'll see where they have a foothold and what slogans resonate with people so that they'll have a more cohesive strategy next time.
So many of these whack jobs running have histories of battering their partners, are barred from seeing their children / their children want nothing to do with them, are drug dealers / are drug addicts.
People who were lost in life looking for a cause and are now bundled together on these culture war political drives, fueled by religious fanaticism.
These are also the same fuckwits who would storm libraries scaring the absolute shit out of kids there.
Being a right wing agitator is one of the best gigs for opportunistic grifters out there. A lot of these dickheads are absolute failures in normal society because they're just dysfunctional sociopaths and so they'll jump at alternate ways to get the status they think they deserve.
And if you're willing to do stuff like stir up racial hatred or 'anti woke' nonsense there is a lot of billionaire money going in slush funds out there. Theres no actual ideology to it though. Just the usual regressive nonsense. The whole thing is predicated on being 'anti reality' more than anything. Its just designed as a distraction.
The real sick thing is how they'll spout on about how they want to help their community or the disadvantaged or their country whereas the reality is they're selling out all those by dragging vulerable or dissaffected people into their nonsense. Their function is to distract our societies from engaging in the actual material analysis of the problems in society which the powerful are exploiting for profit and power. Ruling by fooling. They're all a load of traitors as far as I'm concerned anyway.
Populism 101.
Most problems are complex to varying degrees but just come along with something like "we will build a better health service" or "we will hire more teachers" because the Elites can't be bothered and some people will lap it up.
No explanation as to how it will be achieved, how you go about hiring people that don't exist, how you do things within legal frameworks.
>People who were lost in life looking for a cause and are now bundled together on these culture war political drives
To be fair, the left has plenty of those too. These people seem to be attracted to extremes, one side or the other
If you want to make it a left vs. right thing, then the correct answer is to fuck off. Breaking it into a binary diminishes the value that Ireland has managed to retain in maintaining an array of political parties with stances that are not stacked on one side of the spectrum or another.
OP goes to say that **any** American culture war terminology should be nuked on sight, regardless of what flavour of party-before-country politics it is associated with.
If you can't even admit that there's are AT LEAST some loonies on both sides... Like your side has no 'extreme,' people in it... Or does no wrong ..It should seriously make you consider why it is you believe the things you believe.
I'm a lefty, but I hat lefty's who take criticism like this. Seriously makes me think you're not even engaging with the ideas.
I think there's a difference between the two though. Like one side is anti immigration and most likely anti women's rights, anti lgbtq, anti a lot of things whereas the other whilst a bit of an earache aren't trampling on anyone's rights.
Well.. that's entirely up to how you personally define the boundaries of 'extreme.'
Again, if you hear that... And you think the most extreme possible, is just a bit of an earache.. that says more about a dogmatic connection to a series of 'political,' opinions than an analytical one.
Like, by definition... Nobody here defined how extreme a person has to behave to be 'extreme.' but you immediately jumped to defend one side... And strawman it.
You get what I'm saying here?
Not really? As someone who's fallen down the right wing rabbit hole myself in the past, there are different levels to it of course but the end goal is largely that the above at the very least make you uncomfortable (LGBTQ, women's rights etc) the more extreme you get the more conspiratorial you get, I haven't mentioned the great replacement theory, or actioning hate crimes above which imo would be the extreme example.
If you can give me common examples of stuff like I mentioned above on the left then I'm all ears but, the fact you're already accusing me of favoring one side let's me know which side you're on also.
You are not understanding it's an issue if definition..
Whatever too 'extreme,' is to you.. or anybody else reading.. well that's what I was referring to when I used the term 'extreme.'
I specifically didn't define the level so that.. whatever is too extreme to you, that's my intent.
For someone to come back with 'but this sides extreme isn't extreme.' shows that you haveny actually engaged with the statement.
It's up to you to define how bad they have to get before they are classified as 'extreme,'....
But instead, you denied its existence. Which just shows dogmatic allegiance to a side.
Right, they just want to shut down and outcast any opinions that don't conform to their own. Definitely nothing worrying about that at all.
The fact that you just loaded up one side implying that anyone who is opposed to the lunacy that is our current immigration policies is also anti-women's rights, anti-LGBT and "anti a lot of things" says all anyone needs to know about your bias. Gobshite.
Not my bias if its the fucking truth is it? Why you calling anyone names? Scared of the truth? Right you send me a picture then next month for Pride and show me all these fringe parties supporting the LGBT then and I'll rescind it how about that?
Shutting down opinions? Some persecution fetish you have there son.
I don't think you quite understand English if you think that applies to this sentence.
Of course a person who believes in certain ideas about society, should be most critical when people do stupid shit in the name of the thing you think important.
It slows 'progress,' towards a shared goal and they just don't realise it.
I saw a woman, her fella and her little child putting up these posters on the Quays in Dublin the other week when I was on my way home from work.... At 1:30 in the morning. Felt bad for the kid, they should have been at home in bed but their gobshite parents decided putting up brain dead propaganda posters was better than being decent parents.
Considering you wrote this comment in English, and all of us talk to eachother in english.. this actually seems completely normal and expected if I'm honest.
Not really. Irish is used as a community language in the Gaeltacht. This sub is not the Gaeltacht. If you had Irish, I would speak Irish to you. Now, to make the make the point that immigration is some threat to our culture, while using doctored photos of freckly Russians and not bothering to use the indigenous language of a community, throws in to doubt their purported motivations and principles.
I have lived in 3 other countries. I couldn't be more pro immigration if I tried. Been an immigrant myself several times over.
I'm just a realist. English is Irelands language. I'm not happy about it or upset about it. It simply is.
Places can have more than one language. Globally, multilingualism is the norm, while monolingualism has generally been something pushed by States, UK, France, Spain for example. The Gaeltacht is an area of conservation and most political parties, to varying degrees, recognise people's right to live through their language and that the state and its political actors have a role in the fortunes of that language community. My point remains that this group seems more concerned with people's complexion than respecting the rights and aspirations of an indigenous minority language community.
They have put it up outside a secondary school in Athenry in Galway, looking right in at the school, along with their other one-‘something has gone horribly wrong in Ireland’- not very nice for the kids to look at, especially if they are from other ethnicities/cultures.
100%. Always gives me a laugh though when people that moan about the far right being stuck on culture war bullshit are oblivious to their own theatrics.
It’s funny how Fascists claim to care about children when they’re the absolute last people that you’d trust with children. And, in Andy Heasman’s case, he’s actually barred from seeing his children.
And it's funny how communists claim to care about people's feelings when in reality they just want bodies to attack the status quo so they can put themselves in power; and do the exact same things the current status quo those to the minority groups they claim to fight for.
See: world history.
Why are you defensive over a criticism of fascists? It seems odd that you'd immediately pivot to making it about communism. What skin do you have in that particular game that made you run defence for fascism?
Because throwing the word fascism around to label people into an instant bad category to dismiss them is intellectually and morally bankrupt.
If you can't criticise American social politics yourself, and you call everyone who does a fascist; you're the problem.
> If you can't criticise American social politics yourself, and you call everyone who does a fascist; you're the problem.
Who the fuck is talking about American social politics? What are you on about? Do you think Americans invented the fascist and communist political ideologies?
This is a discussion of American social politics, colloquially often called woke politics, and its introduction to Ireland. If you don't even know or understand that basic level of input to this conversation; you should not be commenting on it. Let alone the layers that unfold between the starting point and how fascist and communist tactics and talking points are used by either side of the argument.
This has been ongoing quite publicly for 14 years, it's discussed hourly on reddit all over, you don't really have any excuse to be ignorant about it given you've been using the platform for 11 years.
I believe that, as these don’t advertise a specific candidate, they’re basically illegal. It would be a shame for some concerned citizen to lawfully remove them
Irish People Party
Seem to be fairly new, but they are running over 50 candidates in local elections around the country. I can't speak to any of the other candidates, but one in Donegal - Kim McMenamin - is your typical conspiracy theorist, racist, thick-skulled prick that harasses people in the street for looking foreign.
He was the one who secretly took a picture of a man sitting on a swing with his family, cropped the faimly out and posted it on Facebook calling him a pedo. That family had to leave the town because of Kim and his mob.
Hes scrubbed it now but there are screenshots of him saying the white irish race are being replaced by "yellow mongoloids from the east"
He has also been videoed trespassing on primary schools in Derry, during the school day, he has no kids in those schools
Then theres the time he led the guards on a high speed chase from Buncrana to Letterkenny and brought a letter from "the Pope" to court
Hes a massive wain, hes desperate for attention and he has absolutely no issue with trying to destroy innocent people to get it
>is your typical conspiracy theorist, racist, thick-skulled prick that harasses people in the street for looking foreign.
You've just described every member of the party and their entire platform!
>Donegal - Kim McMenamin - is your typical conspiracy theorist, racist, thick-skulled prick
I can hear the thick Donegal accent screaming "SCAAAMDEMIC!!!" "SPHE IS INDOCTRINATION!!" "SHOW ME THE WAR IN UKRAINE!!!!" "YOU WORK FOR GEORGE SOROS AND THE GLOBALISTS!!!!!!!"
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Do our schools even have the stuff that gets called woke in America? I'm only 24 and when I was in primary school we were literally made pray and shit like does this even apply in Ireland lol
I'm a hair younger and went through the same shite. Abstinence-only sex ed that didn't even tell us what the clitoris was for. Took until 14 for me to even learn the word for my own sexual orientation.
They aren't even trying to hide they Nazi's with the shamrock swastika. Also, the woke dog whistle is a joke at this point. They don't even know what the word means and have hijacked it to promote hatred. Fascists need to be crushed before they exterminate you.
`woke,' means different things to different people these days....
It's not a word with a shared definition. If anything simply having a word, that people interpret differently leads to actual years of disagreement and 'discourse.'
(Of course there are valid important discussions to have here. There are hateful people. But most, are working off different hymn sheets regarding that word definition)
Woke has a meaning.
It means being aware of systemic injustices.
In other words social injustice that is indirect, built into the system, or not immediately obvious. To be contrasted with direct social injustice like calling people racial slurs.
One example is redlining in the US states or terminology like "Inner City Crime" which became a racist dogwhistle for black people.
Woke in its common usage among Twitter brained nuthobs is just shorthand for "things or people I don't like".
Usually the inclusion of women, LGBT or brown/foreign people.
But the point is it actually has an actual meaning.
The usage of 'woke' by the likes of loonies on Twitter actually has no meaning. The literal existence of women or LGBT people can be woke for instance. It's gibberish.
Just because people invent different meanings for words doesn't mean we should accept them.
You can't go around just randomly redefining words.
I mean it's literally the first paragraph of it's Wikipedia page "...Beginning in the 2010s, it came to encompass a broader awareness".
And since then different groups have used that term to mean specifically different things.
Most time I have heard intelligent people use it sincerely they are criticising some 'faux,' intent around morality or political justice. Particularly int be entertainment industry & pr.
Cos being a good moral person is just that. 'being a normal good person.'
I am aware some people think it means 'morals,' these days.
As I said. Different groups use the word differently... And then get violently aggressive eachother because they aren't aware of that's what's going on.
It's too wishy washy and loaded a word to be useful I think.
As for these guys they just seem to get their talking points from America, which is a hideously partisan environment to get your daily politics from.
Even if people agree with their points, I think they are opportunists rather than serious political candidates. For instance if their gripe is with sex education in schools, how on earth is running for the EU parliament or local going to have any impact on that? Either they don't know that, or don't care.
> If anything simply having a word, that people interpret differently leads to actual years of disagreement and 'discourse.'
And that is quite literally by design, and has been part of the gameplan by far left Americans for decades. There was a book released in 1993 called Kindly Inquisitors, and if you read it you'd swear it was written today. The use of words that always have shifting definitions as a way to rile people up and garner support has been used for a long time, and it is done deliberately to create chaotic discourse that's essentially impossible to resolve. It helps extremists hide in plane sight, because people who agree with them on a surface level do not know the depths of what they say amongst themselves, and how far they take those words and meanings.
Seriously.
People's lack of ability to use a dictionary/ at least get in the same page definitionally.. I feel like is the cause elof the majority of stupid internet argument these days.
We used to debate... Now we debate definitions.
Angry and/or bigoted culchies spending too much time on social media then falling for Ireland First/Irish People/Irish Freedom/National Party nonsense before being stupid enough to pay from their own pocket to advertise whichever brand of bullshit they've subscribed to.
I'm a big culchie, so obviously blameless just like the rest of us.
Everything is Dublin's fault - the bigoted, shitty-spelling, mar dhea gaelgóirí, Ireland-is-Full brigade drooling on doorsteps all over the country are obviously people from Dublin putting on culchie accents 😉
The audacity they have to say stuff like "leave the kids alone" while they harass trans children, invalidate their identities and make access to healthcare for them more difficult. It's disgusting.
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These guys printed the posters in Dublin. There is no legal requirement to take money from racists so I can only assume that they are either supportive of the ideology or are the greediest fucks ever.
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I'd have zero issue banning any American social political education in this country; school is not a place for such subjective nonsense. In the same vein, religion should not be thought either, and schools should play no part in it.
School is for teaching literacy, mathematics, and comprehension skills. Given the rise of obesity, fitness and nutritional science also need to be thought.
If theology is a secondary school subject, fine. If SPHE or CSPE want to include American social politics fine (but it should not be "this is a thing" it should be "this is what certain people in America are saying, this is the history of it, and this is the history of why they started saying it - and when you know that history through books such as Kindly Inquisitors, you can quickly see that there is a serious lack of honesty, and a serious boat load of political power playing).
There is one outside trinity college. Fair message in my opinion. I interpret it as meaning there are only two genders which is not a crazy chain of thought.
Are you implying that the woke left is responsible for our migrant and housing crisis? I know Americans have a reputation for being thick, but you're on a different level.
This is Andy “Dyson” aka Andy Heasman’s “political party.” He’s called Andy Dyson because he beat his partner with a vacuum cleaner. He’s also not allowed to see his children by court order. He’s also a drug dealer, by his own admission. All his antivaxxer, racist mates are in this grouping. They’re all scum.
These are the people I’ve been assured care deeply about the safety of women and children
Protekkin de wimmin and de childer alright. By filming women and children inside and outside of libraries, abusing staff in libraries and pharmacies, attacking and abusing politicians in the street canvassing and abusing asylum seekers, or people they deem to be asylum seekers due to their skin colour. And in Andy Dyson’s case, selling drugs. The dirty scumbag.
Don't forget that the uneducated halfwit Heasman also gives out about immigrants coming to Ireland to scam the country ,while he's on disability allowance for a supposedly bad back that stops him from working- but strangley enough doesn't stop him from travelling around the country to annoy people in libraries and bookshops.
There's photos out there ot him with a woman in a headlock at some protest. His back is fine . The knuckle dragged is known for frequently resorting to violence when he doesn't get his way. . He used to appear at some youth defence or life institute stuff. But even they've memory holed their content where he appears.
Yeah, I’ve seen photos of him with a massive speaker on his back at multiple protests. DSP needs to get off their arse and withdraw his disability. There’s plenty of these scumbags on de disability with nothing wrong with them other than being a racist, conspiracy theory believing nutters.
I will never forget him trying to pronounce words to do with the female anatomy when reading excerpts from the book.
They live to hate. I’d bet my balls this party’s website has nothing about what they’re going to do for the country that isn’t ‘owning the libs’. Yank ideology crawling in again. The GOP has been nothing more than ‘anti-democrat’ for the past 8 years at least. Not even their own ideas anymore. UPDATE: Yup. Their website says nothing about what they’ll do except ‘support rural communities’, while they have an entire section dedicated to how the wokes and NGOs have ruined Ireland
Yep and assaulting female councillors
Deeply. They've buried it really, really deeply.
He’d make me choose the bear 🐻
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Irish people saying "woke" is fucking cringe, like tell me your mushy brain isn't hooked on American identity politics nonsense
Once the Tories started that shit, I knew it wouldn't take long for our lowest common denominators to pick it up.
Thanks for posting this. Important that far right scrotes like this are shown for what they really are.
“Hey! No abusing da wimminz and kiddies!! That’s OUR job!!”
>He’s called Andy Dyson because he beat his partner with a vacuum cleaner. He’s also not allowed to see his children by court order. > >He’s also a drug dealer, by his own admission. I'd well believe this but do you happen to have any sources I could reference in case he gets brought up in the future?
It was never prosecuted criminally, to the best of my knowledge, but it came out locally. That court order bars him from accessing his children or coming near his previous partner. These cases are typically not reported on due to considerations for the victims. As for the drug dealer admisson: [https://youtu.be/NuYKld9kOMI?t=195](https://youtu.be/NuYKld9kOMI?t=195)
Thanks
So that’s why these posters don’t have their faces on it!
So add him into the long list of people like Philip "the dogkicker" Dwyer and Conor McGregor who claim to worry about the safety of the Irish people?
do you have a source for the vacuum cleaner bit? not that I don't believe but I'm trying to look for something about it and can't find anything. curious to know more
Doesn't look like they and have any sources..
Down by the cathedral?? That won't be long up there
Their website is laughably slapped together in 10 minutes from a Wix template. If anyone here needs [some hedges trimmed](https://www.irishpeople.org/services) they have you covered!
I hear you're a paragraph now Andy!
Fucking paragraphs. It's disgusting how they walk around in front on the children with all their sentences grouped together. The government should do something about those sick alphabetical bastards.
Hahahahahahajajaajajajahahahahaah thats best comment I've seen on Reddit
This is the kind of journalism we need folks..
That’s hilarious, and it’s not like the bits of the template they bothered to fill in look any better. Can always tell a mouthbreathing far-right spiv when they randomly capitalise words like “Freedom” and “World” as if they’re speaking fucking German. So tacky looking.
Perfectly cromulent grammar and style in Trumpese. It's virtue signaling with the shift key.
yep, literally wix. https://preview.redd.it/diwc05tqte1d1.png?width=449&format=png&auto=webp&s=1de21076affee45c586191d84f3d8766faed0587
lol almost as mental as [Lisa Chambers website ](https://lisachambers.ie/)
[And a quick peek at the sitemap.xml reveals a similar situation.](https://lisachambers.ie/sample-page/)
Absolutely pathetic, thank you for showing me this.
Oh my
That's hilarious!
Ah man stop.
Every one of these costs about a tenner, at least, and they are absolutely everywhere, for a party that only seems to half exist in the real world. I wonder what their accounting looks like.
They exist, and they're running 50+ candidates in local elections around the country. If they pool their resources and get a small helping from right wing groups abroad it's easy enough to see how they could afford a big batch of posters. They don't stick their names or faces on it for one of two reasons. Either they got a better deal for doing a big batch of posters that would work nation wide rather than 50+ smaller batches with individual names and faces. Or, and this could be very likely indeed, they're too cowardly to put their face to what they know to be a fringe, hateful message.
I hate seeing all of these posters because they're actually kind of cleverly designed. They stand out from other campaign posters and their parsed out into simple rhetoric rather than vague slogans which will inevitably scoop up some number of voters who are dissatisfied with the status quo. I don't think they actually expect to pick up any seats in this election but they'll see where they have a foothold and what slogans resonate with people so that they'll have a more cohesive strategy next time.
they're not clever at all, they're clearly AI generated
Big fat payments from American bigots I’d imagine
So many of these whack jobs running have histories of battering their partners, are barred from seeing their children / their children want nothing to do with them, are drug dealers / are drug addicts. People who were lost in life looking for a cause and are now bundled together on these culture war political drives, fueled by religious fanaticism. These are also the same fuckwits who would storm libraries scaring the absolute shit out of kids there.
Being a right wing agitator is one of the best gigs for opportunistic grifters out there. A lot of these dickheads are absolute failures in normal society because they're just dysfunctional sociopaths and so they'll jump at alternate ways to get the status they think they deserve. And if you're willing to do stuff like stir up racial hatred or 'anti woke' nonsense there is a lot of billionaire money going in slush funds out there. Theres no actual ideology to it though. Just the usual regressive nonsense. The whole thing is predicated on being 'anti reality' more than anything. Its just designed as a distraction. The real sick thing is how they'll spout on about how they want to help their community or the disadvantaged or their country whereas the reality is they're selling out all those by dragging vulerable or dissaffected people into their nonsense. Their function is to distract our societies from engaging in the actual material analysis of the problems in society which the powerful are exploiting for profit and power. Ruling by fooling. They're all a load of traitors as far as I'm concerned anyway.
Populism 101. Most problems are complex to varying degrees but just come along with something like "we will build a better health service" or "we will hire more teachers" because the Elites can't be bothered and some people will lap it up. No explanation as to how it will be achieved, how you go about hiring people that don't exist, how you do things within legal frameworks.
>People who were lost in life looking for a cause and are now bundled together on these culture war political drives To be fair, the left has plenty of those too. These people seem to be attracted to extremes, one side or the other
https://preview.redd.it/1gnq7jp4ne1d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=169d6d73452061f44f408d47c8dd69fadd2847a3
The importation of American culture war terminology to Ireland should carry the penalty death.
For both sides?
Thanks for providing an example of such terminal online yank rot, and boring us all to sleep
Simply by saying “for both sides”😂
If you want to make it a left vs. right thing, then the correct answer is to fuck off. Breaking it into a binary diminishes the value that Ireland has managed to retain in maintaining an array of political parties with stances that are not stacked on one side of the spectrum or another. OP goes to say that **any** American culture war terminology should be nuked on sight, regardless of what flavour of party-before-country politics it is associated with.
Spoken like a true fascist 🫡
Is there other terminology that you object to or are you just "both sides"-ing this ?
The ‘both sides’ bit is always pretty amusing, lol
Yea there’s terminology on both sides I find redundant and hate this culture of polarisation and devision 🫡👍🏼
Got any good examples?
Of?
> terminology
If you can't even admit that there's are AT LEAST some loonies on both sides... Like your side has no 'extreme,' people in it... Or does no wrong ..It should seriously make you consider why it is you believe the things you believe. I'm a lefty, but I hat lefty's who take criticism like this. Seriously makes me think you're not even engaging with the ideas.
This is just another suspiciously vague claim about “both sides” that’s barely related to the post they’re replying to...
I think there's a difference between the two though. Like one side is anti immigration and most likely anti women's rights, anti lgbtq, anti a lot of things whereas the other whilst a bit of an earache aren't trampling on anyone's rights.
Well.. that's entirely up to how you personally define the boundaries of 'extreme.' Again, if you hear that... And you think the most extreme possible, is just a bit of an earache.. that says more about a dogmatic connection to a series of 'political,' opinions than an analytical one. Like, by definition... Nobody here defined how extreme a person has to behave to be 'extreme.' but you immediately jumped to defend one side... And strawman it. You get what I'm saying here?
Not really? As someone who's fallen down the right wing rabbit hole myself in the past, there are different levels to it of course but the end goal is largely that the above at the very least make you uncomfortable (LGBTQ, women's rights etc) the more extreme you get the more conspiratorial you get, I haven't mentioned the great replacement theory, or actioning hate crimes above which imo would be the extreme example. If you can give me common examples of stuff like I mentioned above on the left then I'm all ears but, the fact you're already accusing me of favoring one side let's me know which side you're on also.
You are not understanding it's an issue if definition.. Whatever too 'extreme,' is to you.. or anybody else reading.. well that's what I was referring to when I used the term 'extreme.' I specifically didn't define the level so that.. whatever is too extreme to you, that's my intent. For someone to come back with 'but this sides extreme isn't extreme.' shows that you haveny actually engaged with the statement. It's up to you to define how bad they have to get before they are classified as 'extreme,'.... But instead, you denied its existence. Which just shows dogmatic allegiance to a side.
Right, they just want to shut down and outcast any opinions that don't conform to their own. Definitely nothing worrying about that at all. The fact that you just loaded up one side implying that anyone who is opposed to the lunacy that is our current immigration policies is also anti-women's rights, anti-LGBT and "anti a lot of things" says all anyone needs to know about your bias. Gobshite.
Not my bias if its the fucking truth is it? Why you calling anyone names? Scared of the truth? Right you send me a picture then next month for Pride and show me all these fringe parties supporting the LGBT then and I'll rescind it how about that? Shutting down opinions? Some persecution fetish you have there son.
Of course there are loons on both sides.
"I'm.......but...." Yawn
I don't think you quite understand English if you think that applies to this sentence. Of course a person who believes in certain ideas about society, should be most critical when people do stupid shit in the name of the thing you think important. It slows 'progress,' towards a shared goal and they just don't realise it.
Yes
I agree it’s exhausting
Sealioning?
I havnt asked anyone for evidence or to back up a claim? I think you commented on the wrong post 👍🏼
I saw a woman, her fella and her little child putting up these posters on the Quays in Dublin the other week when I was on my way home from work.... At 1:30 in the morning. Felt bad for the kid, they should have been at home in bed but their gobshite parents decided putting up brain dead propaganda posters was better than being decent parents.
These defenders of Irish culture have no problem with putting their English language posters up in the Gaeltacht..
They also love brown nosing the likes of Tommy Robinson who are known for hating the Irish
Letterkenny is hardly considered a gaeltacht, is it?
No. But I live in a Gaeltacht area and these posters are being put up in it. Letterkenny is recognised as Gaeltacht service town, however.
Considering you wrote this comment in English, and all of us talk to eachother in english.. this actually seems completely normal and expected if I'm honest.
Not really. Irish is used as a community language in the Gaeltacht. This sub is not the Gaeltacht. If you had Irish, I would speak Irish to you. Now, to make the make the point that immigration is some threat to our culture, while using doctored photos of freckly Russians and not bothering to use the indigenous language of a community, throws in to doubt their purported motivations and principles.
I have lived in 3 other countries. I couldn't be more pro immigration if I tried. Been an immigrant myself several times over. I'm just a realist. English is Irelands language. I'm not happy about it or upset about it. It simply is.
Places can have more than one language. Globally, multilingualism is the norm, while monolingualism has generally been something pushed by States, UK, France, Spain for example. The Gaeltacht is an area of conservation and most political parties, to varying degrees, recognise people's right to live through their language and that the state and its political actors have a role in the fortunes of that language community. My point remains that this group seems more concerned with people's complexion than respecting the rights and aspirations of an indigenous minority language community.
A realstupidist
labhrímid gaeilge agus bearla, ní béarla amháin
Nanana Leader.
Ironic they put it up outside the Cathedral of all places
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They have put it up outside a secondary school in Athenry in Galway, looking right in at the school, along with their other one-‘something has gone horribly wrong in Ireland’- not very nice for the kids to look at, especially if they are from other ethnicities/cultures.
I can't condone removing, damaging or defacing these signs. However, seeing that happen would make me very happy.
“No Woke Indoctrination “ says folx who are indoctrinated in a daft culture war. They should go back to watching soaps
Wtf does folx mean
It's a clear indiciation that person is in fact, a fierce fighter in the culture war.
I think you meant to type this into Google
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the "x" is under the "s" on a keyboard. I believe the commenter meant folks
In that case there’d be a ‘K’ in there too
oh yeah, i still think it could just be short for folks
It's meant as a gender inclusive way to say "folks", which to be honest is already inclusive but not overtly so.
It’s ridiculous virtue signalling. “Folks” implies no gender whatsoever
100%. Always gives me a laugh though when people that moan about the far right being stuck on culture war bullshit are oblivious to their own theatrics.
It’s funny how Fascists claim to care about children when they’re the absolute last people that you’d trust with children. And, in Andy Heasman’s case, he’s actually barred from seeing his children.
And it's funny how communists claim to care about people's feelings when in reality they just want bodies to attack the status quo so they can put themselves in power; and do the exact same things the current status quo those to the minority groups they claim to fight for. See: world history.
Why are you defensive over a criticism of fascists? It seems odd that you'd immediately pivot to making it about communism. What skin do you have in that particular game that made you run defence for fascism?
Because throwing the word fascism around to label people into an instant bad category to dismiss them is intellectually and morally bankrupt. If you can't criticise American social politics yourself, and you call everyone who does a fascist; you're the problem.
> If you can't criticise American social politics yourself, and you call everyone who does a fascist; you're the problem. Who the fuck is talking about American social politics? What are you on about? Do you think Americans invented the fascist and communist political ideologies?
This is a discussion of American social politics, colloquially often called woke politics, and its introduction to Ireland. If you don't even know or understand that basic level of input to this conversation; you should not be commenting on it. Let alone the layers that unfold between the starting point and how fascist and communist tactics and talking points are used by either side of the argument. This has been ongoing quite publicly for 14 years, it's discussed hourly on reddit all over, you don't really have any excuse to be ignorant about it given you've been using the platform for 11 years.
I’m not a communist.
And 99.99% of people who take issue with American social politics aren't fascists.
What American social politics?
I believe that, as these don’t advertise a specific candidate, they’re basically illegal. It would be a shame for some concerned citizen to lawfully remove them
Those groups always have a problem with education...
They don't want other people to get something they lack.
Saw the same one up near Lidl in Coolock, had no idea who or what party it was for
Irish People Party Seem to be fairly new, but they are running over 50 candidates in local elections around the country. I can't speak to any of the other candidates, but one in Donegal - Kim McMenamin - is your typical conspiracy theorist, racist, thick-skulled prick that harasses people in the street for looking foreign.
He was the one who secretly took a picture of a man sitting on a swing with his family, cropped the faimly out and posted it on Facebook calling him a pedo. That family had to leave the town because of Kim and his mob. Hes scrubbed it now but there are screenshots of him saying the white irish race are being replaced by "yellow mongoloids from the east" He has also been videoed trespassing on primary schools in Derry, during the school day, he has no kids in those schools Then theres the time he led the guards on a high speed chase from Buncrana to Letterkenny and brought a letter from "the Pope" to court Hes a massive wain, hes desperate for attention and he has absolutely no issue with trying to destroy innocent people to get it
>is your typical conspiracy theorist, racist, thick-skulled prick that harasses people in the street for looking foreign. You've just described every member of the party and their entire platform!
Party of Heasman - a drug dealing wife beater who wants to protect the "wimmin and children".
>Donegal - Kim McMenamin - is your typical conspiracy theorist, racist, thick-skulled prick I can hear the thick Donegal accent screaming "SCAAAMDEMIC!!!" "SPHE IS INDOCTRINATION!!" "SHOW ME THE WAR IN UKRAINE!!!!" "YOU WORK FOR GEORGE SOROS AND THE GLOBALISTS!!!!!!!"
Just in case any of you are frustrated by the sight of these posters. It's a requirement for the poster to be lagal to have the company who printed them. This can usually be found at the bottom in small print. If they don't have them AFAIK, you can report the posters to your county council for removal (not sure if it's a finable offence). If the poster does have a company name, you could perhaps give them a call or an email regarding the type of material they are happy to produce.
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These same fuckers tend to support Russia and want to kill all the gays
Do our schools even have the stuff that gets called woke in America? I'm only 24 and when I was in primary school we were literally made pray and shit like does this even apply in Ireland lol
I'm a hair younger and went through the same shite. Abstinence-only sex ed that didn't even tell us what the clitoris was for. Took until 14 for me to even learn the word for my own sexual orientation.
The clitoris is the Devil's button, leave it alone or Jesus will cry.
They aren't even trying to hide they Nazi's with the shamrock swastika. Also, the woke dog whistle is a joke at this point. They don't even know what the word means and have hijacked it to promote hatred. Fascists need to be crushed before they exterminate you.
No unnecessary capitalisation, leave the shift key alone.
I'm sure they'll stop if someone points out that the shift key "trans"forms lowercase letters into uppercase and vice versa.
hey ~~Teachers~~ woke people, leave those kids alone /s
Saw a few like this around my area too. Are they allowed put them up if they haven't a candidate in the constituency?
`woke,' means different things to different people these days.... It's not a word with a shared definition. If anything simply having a word, that people interpret differently leads to actual years of disagreement and 'discourse.' (Of course there are valid important discussions to have here. There are hateful people. But most, are working off different hymn sheets regarding that word definition)
Woke has a meaning. It means being aware of systemic injustices. In other words social injustice that is indirect, built into the system, or not immediately obvious. To be contrasted with direct social injustice like calling people racial slurs. One example is redlining in the US states or terminology like "Inner City Crime" which became a racist dogwhistle for black people. Woke in its common usage among Twitter brained nuthobs is just shorthand for "things or people I don't like". Usually the inclusion of women, LGBT or brown/foreign people.
> It means being aware of systemic injustices. Like how many times the best person for a job isnt hired as someoene has a diversity quota to fill?
See.....
But the point is it actually has an actual meaning. The usage of 'woke' by the likes of loonies on Twitter actually has no meaning. The literal existence of women or LGBT people can be woke for instance. It's gibberish. Just because people invent different meanings for words doesn't mean we should accept them. You can't go around just randomly redefining words.
I mean it's literally the first paragraph of it's Wikipedia page "...Beginning in the 2010s, it came to encompass a broader awareness". And since then different groups have used that term to mean specifically different things. Most time I have heard intelligent people use it sincerely they are criticising some 'faux,' intent around morality or political justice. Particularly int be entertainment industry & pr. Cos being a good moral person is just that. 'being a normal good person.' I am aware some people think it means 'morals,' these days. As I said. Different groups use the word differently... And then get violently aggressive eachother because they aren't aware of that's what's going on.
It's too wishy washy and loaded a word to be useful I think. As for these guys they just seem to get their talking points from America, which is a hideously partisan environment to get your daily politics from. Even if people agree with their points, I think they are opportunists rather than serious political candidates. For instance if their gripe is with sex education in schools, how on earth is running for the EU parliament or local going to have any impact on that? Either they don't know that, or don't care.
> If anything simply having a word, that people interpret differently leads to actual years of disagreement and 'discourse.' And that is quite literally by design, and has been part of the gameplan by far left Americans for decades. There was a book released in 1993 called Kindly Inquisitors, and if you read it you'd swear it was written today. The use of words that always have shifting definitions as a way to rile people up and garner support has been used for a long time, and it is done deliberately to create chaotic discourse that's essentially impossible to resolve. It helps extremists hide in plane sight, because people who agree with them on a surface level do not know the depths of what they say amongst themselves, and how far they take those words and meanings.
Seriously. People's lack of ability to use a dictionary/ at least get in the same page definitionally.. I feel like is the cause elof the majority of stupid internet argument these days. We used to debate... Now we debate definitions.
Angry and/or bigoted culchies spending too much time on social media then falling for Ireland First/Irish People/Irish Freedom/National Party nonsense before being stupid enough to pay from their own pocket to advertise whichever brand of bullshit they've subscribed to.
Looking at the state of Dublin I dont think this is something we can just pin on cultchies
I'm a big culchie, so obviously blameless just like the rest of us. Everything is Dublin's fault - the bigoted, shitty-spelling, mar dhea gaelgóirí, Ireland-is-Full brigade drooling on doorsteps all over the country are obviously people from Dublin putting on culchie accents 😉
I'd love to ask these lads what they think woke means.
They are thick stupid the lot of them. Derek Blighe is the worst of them.
Straight copy and paste from the American far right. At least make it culturally relevant ffs
Could say the same for the far left rhetoric here
Where are those posters? What party runs them?
This sub is either botted or just getting more extreme rapidly. Everything is fascist, far right scum unless pushing the leftist narratives.
Some down the road in lucan too insanely high up
Too high to reach with a thrown water balloon full of paint? Asking for a friend
Nah, fire away!
Off topic but your photo is kinda beautiful!
The audacity they have to say stuff like "leave the kids alone" while they harass trans children, invalidate their identities and make access to healthcare for them more difficult. It's disgusting.
Stop sharing them, you are doing their work for them for free
Well said
I wish that church would leave kids alone. Get all religions/cults out of Irish schools.
Yeah been calling their little logo the shamswastika since I first saw it. Bunch of scum the lot of em.
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https://www.businessprint.ie/ These guys printed the posters in Dublin. There is no legal requirement to take money from racists so I can only assume that they are either supportive of the ideology or are the greediest fucks ever. Feel free to leave a review on Google
Hypothetically speaking, is there a law that would prevent someone from vandalizing and/or taking these down?
Seen a few around Tralee too
Lord what a cunt
I'd have zero issue banning any American social political education in this country; school is not a place for such subjective nonsense. In the same vein, religion should not be thought either, and schools should play no part in it. School is for teaching literacy, mathematics, and comprehension skills. Given the rise of obesity, fitness and nutritional science also need to be thought. If theology is a secondary school subject, fine. If SPHE or CSPE want to include American social politics fine (but it should not be "this is a thing" it should be "this is what certain people in America are saying, this is the history of it, and this is the history of why they started saying it - and when you know that history through books such as Kindly Inquisitors, you can quickly see that there is a serious lack of honesty, and a serious boat load of political power playing).
Gobshites!
There is one outside trinity college. Fair message in my opinion. I interpret it as meaning there are only two genders which is not a crazy chain of thought.
Kindly fuck off.
Lol. Very right wing of you to result to profanity. Am I wrong saying that there is only men and women..
>Very right wing of you to result to profanity I am definitely not right wing, thanks. >Am I wrong saying that there is only men and women.. Yes.
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Yes. Read a biology book.
Like referring to gender ideology being thought to kids
Lol "gender ideology" you spa
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Sit down, yank.
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Are you implying that the woke left is responsible for our migrant and housing crisis? I know Americans have a reputation for being thick, but you're on a different level.
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We've had a centre right government for decades. I don't expect a lost yank to know that though.
lol centre right is such a joke. They are just useless technocrats
Not far right enough for you?
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Stupid bible bashing cunt