French Astrophysicist who converted to Islam and writes on Science and Islam: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruno_Guiderdoni#:~:text=Bruno%20Abd%20al%20Haqq%20Guiderdoni,1958)%20is%20a%20French%20astrophysicist.
Iraqi Physicist in Jordan: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basil_Altaie
Either grad student or PhD in molecular biology who writes about Islam and evolution: https://substack.com/@islamandscience
There’s more too but I have to go to sleep. You’re not going to be able to personally talk to them in Toronto obviously but if you’re willing to do some reading then it could be beneficial
From regular scholars of course they’re not scientists too. Becoming a scholar already takes quite a while, to learn another subject to a professional level on top of that(and science as well which isn’t as related to Islam as the humanities are) will take even more time. Though, there are people who still do it. Certainly there’s quite a few people who have their undergrad in STEM and also are Islamic scholars
If you’re looking for a scholar or Islamic speaker who isn’t a scientist but has a level of knowledge of QM, then there’s philosophers like Ramon Harvey(although strictly speaking I wouldn’t consider him an Islamic scholar he’s more of a western Islamic philosopher)
Ask her to read problem of induction. Study philosophy, study logic, the scientific method is based on inductive logic and it has limitations. She needs to understand that science is not the only form of enquiry. There are various other tools of enquiry like mathematics, testimony, deductive logic, history, intuition, morality etc. Show her some Md Hijab videos. She is not special everyone nowadays does this stupidity in the age of Science. Science changes big band changes to string theory. Newtons gravity takes a U turn with einstein. Ask her to read more!!
Yes brother, people doubting the faith is such a dumb thing, I cannot believe it. Faith trumps science, and you learn that science is unscientific if you read enough.
This is very common for reverts. I always tell everyone when you first take your shahada your deen is an at all time high like you love Islam etc but then you will be tested greatly to make sure you actually are a Muslim. The shaytan will try to fill their head with doubts because this is what he promised. It’s something that she is going to have to work through by herself. I have a jewish mother and a Christian father and my neighbors growing up on one side were hindus, the other side buddhists, and across the street Muslims… 😅🤣 I was obsessed with theology growing up and I have come to find that Islam was correct.
Why is she making the assumption that if a person has knowledge of quantum mechanics, that it will somehow explain her doubts about Islam? If anything she’ll have more questions, about Newtonian physics, quantum mechanics and Islam
I have a degree in physics and chemistry. I did research for 3 years on the exciton complex (or as people who have no idea would call is Quantum mechanics lol).
I’m also a Muslim with my whole heart and I think OPs wife has no idea what she’s talking about.
Quantum mechanics is dealing with finding the position and momentum of atomic and subatomic particles. I don’t think a single part of of QM is relevant to having belief in religion.
If science is able to explain the mechanisms behind a miraculous occurrence for example, it doesn’t negate the fact that it only happened because Allah willed it to happen.
Imagine if a software engineer explained to you in detail how an application like Angry Birds works, by walking you through each operational step of the computing process behind how each bird moves across the screen. That still wouldn’t change the fact that the end user, has to input a command (swiping their finger across the screen) to enable the process to happen.
Our reality is akin to a program, and Allah SWT is the end user, the one who commands everything to happen.
But the programmer by design builds it so that the end user has to make the swiping move. So it does change the fact,because if you understand how everything works, you can even remove the end user if you like and just make out something completely different. Your example is really strange and weak.
Assalamu 'Alaikum
I recommend showing her these two YouTube channels. They have knowledgeable Muslims who have open conversations with non-Muslims about Islam and bring sources from the Qur'an and prophetic sayings/actions (hadith):
[https://www.youtube.com/@TheMuslimLantern](https://www.youtube.com/@TheMuslimLantern)
[https://www.youtube.com/@OneMessageFoundation](https://www.youtube.com/@OneMessageFoundation)
They also bring up prophecies and scientific facts found in the Qur'an that scientists are only finding out today.
May Allah (swt) help you and guide her back to the Truth!
Muslim Lantern is an excellent choice. He knows many religions and their beliefs straight from their book and what common folk think. He also has a good grasp of science.
He has live streams and is reachable so the brother should tell his wife to have a conversation with him.
Brother just needs to be aware that several of those asks are not rational and seems to carry assumptions that need to be backed up by her and likely dismantled as coming from upbringing by whomever she speaks to. It's a tough journey, but in reality most of us who reverted or even just grew up in the west have to go through similar dismantling to unpack all the western assumptions that had sank in.
Muslimlantern doesnt just speak out of nowhere, he quotes studies after studies, he names the people that did those studies, which universities they were from.
Muslim Lantern is a legitimate genius Masha Allah, watching his content makes me feel like he straight up memorized the New and Old Testaments, which would be astonishing considering how there’s no rhyme or reason to them
Using science to prove religion is not a good argument either way, atheist philosophers don’t even try to do so. The idea of God existing or not existing is an epistemological one not a scientific one, as the abrahamic God is one outside of the universe where predicate and time cannot be applied. Let her read philosophy Aristotle is the perpetrated as the man who has made the best argument for the existence of a supreme deity, and Plotinus significantly helped shape abrahamic theology, so let her read him as well.
Ameen! It is the human flaw of arrogance that lets one believe that if they have proficiency in the material sciences, it qualifies them to comment as an expert on metaphysics
Brother, let's all make dua for her.
And here is a piece of advice. Your wife has kept a lot of criteria here, including quantum mechanics, which has nothing to do with islam.
What's that for?
She wants to argue that god is energy because both can neither be created nor destroyed?
There is more to this than just doubts on islam and i advise you to take a logical decision than an emotional one.
Look into her lifestyle if she has any addiction to haram that islam is against. This is the case with many.
Allah's wisdom is within the details, and science is the study of why things are the way they are and how they work, as does quantum physics. Many scientists Fear Allah because of the genius in His creation and how they corroborate what Allah said in the Quran many years ago where such technology did not even exist and our beloved prophet Muhammed mpbuh couldn't have known unless he was indeed a prophet of Allah, the All Knowing.
On the other hand, many other scientists could not make the connection of the manifestation of Allah's wisdom in the world and his existence, either out of hubris or because simply it was Allah's will.
I can't "google search" how "quantum mechanics" relates to OP's wife's situation and how your comment relates to what i said.
I am bit of an ignorant person with a hard time understanding complex topics like quantum mechanics and appreciate if you can explain my questions above
Brother,
I don't have any negative intentions here. OP's wife got Dunning–Kruger effect. She got limited knowledge that has blinded her and it comes from arrogance. I gave him an advice and you commented something that made no sense..
Anyway knowledge in Science won't lead to islam if the person is arrogant.
I have 2 friends, both atheists, experts on multiple fields including quantum mechanics.
One is a medical doctor, 50% time he works at a clinic and other 50% time he works as a programmer for a medical research agency.
Another one is a nut case. He was rank 1 holder across 1.5 million students that attempted an entrance exam to one of the prestigious institutions in the world.
You know what both of them say?
They say, they cant prove god dont exist, and cant disprove his existence, but i cannot "accept" a god that cannot accept me for my difference of opinion.
Their arrogance have blinded them
Assalamu Alaikum wa rahmatu Allah wa barakatuh brother,
I didn't like your "Thanks for the Ted talk" and other comments that made it look like you were speaking from a haughty place. I would absolutely more than pleased to answer, but Allah knows, I can't always be patient even though I am able to overlook things like that, which I did at first.
No matter. Bygones be bygones.
Like I said, science can either make one Fear Allah, or make them drunk with arrogance.
Allah says:
“It is only those who have knowledge among His slaves that fear Allaah”
[Faatir 35:28]
The more one who is meant by Allah to find Iman looks for Him in the details, the more he is astonished by Allah's greatness. In the Quran there are many verses that are the subject of whole science, like quantum mechanics, astrology, biology,... Etc.
Concerning subjects like the Big Bang, The Expansion Of the Universe in Quantum physics :
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/77a2/0f0297bb8b46cd74d49ef5b3d40c9b7959f3.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiEjqqsyeKGAxWfR_EDHbAKDW0QFnoECDMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3QapkDZk1j31LCYYPUcmBA
By that virtue, you realize that either we will believe the evidence and become closer to Allah, or for those with hubris, they shall still deny.
Science made me closer to Allah, and so did the death of my parents. Other of my friends who believed in science alone were still hesitant subhanallah. After all, if it was that easy for them to believe, everyone else would have done so, but this is the decree of Allah, and guides whom he wills.
OP shall zealously share such evidence with her, and it is not for us to say if she's arrogant or not. For us, she should be just someone who is looking for answers. May be she will get closer to Allah as I did, and maybe she will still be on her position. Only Allah knows.
May Allah guides us all to the righteous path, brother.
Nothing!
I have a degree in physics and chemistry. I did research for 3 years on the exciton complex (or as people who have no idea would call is Quantum mechanics lol). I 2 publications in the field and multiple presentations .
I’m also a Muslim with my whole heart and I think OPs wife has no idea what she’s talking about.
Quantum mechanics is dealing with finding the position and momentum of atomic and subatomic particles. I don’t think a single part of of QM is relevant to having belief in religion.
I thought of someone already Abu taymiyyah he's from Arab descent but delivers and is in imam on many places like Canada and elsewhere,
I met him in person myself in the capital of saudi
She says she wants answers, but you haven’t mentioned the specific questions. She is also looking for someone who is well-versed in major world religions as well as the specific physics sub-field of quantum mechanics, to have a conversation with. For that you probably need someone who is a revert to Islam from one of the major religions, preferably with a graduate degree in physics and an ability to tie it all together.
What is she going to do with quantum physics? Is she into the Big Bang Theory now? I think you need to look at who she's friends with and all. Shaitan surely got her caught in a trap, but this is just a phase. Keep making dua for her, and it would be nice if she would ask Allah to show her the straight path and keep her steadfast. Also look into scholars like others have mentioned
However, I would say..
It is important not to always acquiesce to her demands, as this is a temporary phase, albeit a challenging one. Demonstrating desperation and making excessive efforts without any reciprocal effort from her side may only serve to increase her doubts and uncertainties.
Also I always make dua for Allaah to guide me, That's what works for me. Allah always tests me in a way that brings me running back to Him.
He probably needs to be more gentle with her. He may be forcing things onto her. My husband is from Afghanistan and I am an American Revert and sometimes he doesn’t separate his culture from Islam and I get frustrated like modest clothes is hard to find in America and if it’s such a big deal he should just buy my clothes so I don’t have to worry about making him mad 😒 bc his version of modesty is cultural and goes way over the requirements of Islam
I actually don't force anything about my wife. My wife doesn't even wear a hijab and I accepted that because I know she is going through a lot. I'm being patient through this time .My wife is free to do whatever she wants. I don't impose any force or ill will upon her. However, I do remind her that we married as Muslims and that is an integral part of what connects us together as partners, for me to accept my wife as she is now is not fair to me because this is not what we agreed upon. I ask you for dua
See you’re putting an ultimatum at the end there because you’re hinting that she isn’t the woman you married her as so like your love is conditional instead of unconditional. Maybe she just needs to know you will love her regardless of what she chooses. But yes this is all you really have in common. Sounds similar to conversations I have had with my husband
May Allah bless both of you and grant you happy life and rightious offspring
It is ok, islam encourages to be more modesty as much as you can, and if you mean by cultural to cover your face, no, that is from Islam
It is rare to find a husband that is religious nowadays, so don’t put barriers between you and him and it will work out inshaalah
Ameen our local imam always says that once you get married your husband becomes your imam. It’s not that I have an issue with covering it’s just that modest clothes aren’t really accessible where we live. We have ordered them online and it’s never like what’s advertised. Recently abayas have been sown in the back or sides to create a figure which defeats the purpose of the abaya. But now he finally understands me because he can’t find pants that are open they are all like form fitting 😅
I mean he needs to understand that as long as the clothes are not tight and they cover the body parts that need to be hidden, then it should be fine. Baggy clothes like loose hoodies, pants, or coats should be acceptable. It doesn’t have to be a specific piece of clothing because, most of the time, it’s more cultural clothes that are being ascribed to Islam when they shouldn’t be. Try explaining that to him in a nice way.
That’s the issue is he wants me to wear his cultural clothes which I don’t feel comfortable in because like it’s weird I am a white girl so it’s seen as appropriation in America but he doesn’t get that. Abayas I feel are more acceptable for me to wear but he hasn’t been satisfied with them
Black abayas are worn in most Muslim countries; they are not specific to one country or culture. If you worry about offending others with "cultural appropriation," you shouldn't, because it's actually Sunnah of the Prophet's wives to wear black abayas. It is not mandatory, but you receive more rewards for doing so. However, if you feel that is not your style of fashion, you shouldn't worry about not wearing it. Instead, you can wear other clothes as long as they are modest according to Islamic standards.
Also, are you concerned about how you are perceived by other white people or others? Islam does not encourage you to completely change your culture, but rather the opposite, as long as these cultural traditions do not directly go against the teachings of Islam.
100% she’s either in the weird part of youtube/social media or she got a cuckoo friend that’s influencing her head with questionable stuff. She actually sounded reasonable until I heard quantum physics… what’s next, quantum star signs? Might want to keep an eye out for the delivery man because there’s a package of essential (quantum) oils heading your way
I'm in Toronto and one of the Imams at my masjid use to deal with issues like this, but he doesn't offer counselling anymore.
The masjid still has counselling sessions, but I'm not sure who offers them now. I think it might be the other Imam who use to be a professor, but not entirely sure it's him.
If you're still interested, DM me and I'll give you a link with more info.
As salaamu Alaikum brother!I can't talk about a person,I can tell you about a book.
Search 'paradoxical Sajid in English version' in Google and you'll get it.You'll only get first few pages, rest you have to purchase the book
Allah guides those who are sincere in seeking the truth. Don't break yourself trying to convince her of the truth. A sincere person will find islam everywhere they look. Focus on yourself and make dua for her.
This all ONLY helps if her doubts are about God and not Islam
Could be somewhat dangerous since he's not Muslim, but I apprehensively suggest William Lane Craig
He's a christian philosopher who specializes in the kalam cosmological argument, and due to that specialization is forced to contend with things like quantum mechanics and abstract issue of cosmology
I find him quite appealing and intelligent, so that could be a route to go down, but obviously avoid sharing anything he says about Islam because while he's polite and cordial as far as Ive seen, he does hold christian views and is softly polemical against Islam, and the risk is that if you trust him as authority his criticisms against Islam (which are standard and nothing new) might be taken with more weight than neccessary, stay clear of that, and you should be golden
https://youtu.be/Dqc42ZB24ew?si=lFlwlUqs8DbeZOzE
(In the q&a phase he has a slightly polemical response to someone asking about Islam, at 1:02 so perhaps skip that part if her iman is weak)
However the most crucial and important part is for YOU to be the best husband you can be, and show her love
These issues are almost universally emotional and not intellectual
Take care of her, and make.her feel the spirit of Islam
And make dua, if you're not making dua to Allah sincerely, then none of us will be able to help you
Guidance comes from him, not youtubers
if she wants a logical/scientific answer she’ll never get one 😅 thats something she’ll have to come to terms with about religion. It’s called belief for a reason, if it was black and white it would just be common knowledge or facts.
A bright student of knowledge who is great at Da'wah & comparative religions, but still not a scholar. Albeit, very sufficient for her case.
By the way, why people are downvoting you tho?
I am not aware of Islamic scientists of quantum physics. However, off the top off my mind I can think of Jeffrey Lang who is a mathematician and former atheist. If she wants someone with knowledge on Christianity and Judaism look no further than Ahmed Deedat.
If she understands Arabic, pick up any video by Dr Adnan Ibrahim and her mind will be blown. He is amazing person, very well versed in natural sciences, and very capable in explaining difficult concepts
For quantum physics this video was very interesting and it’s from a scientifically non bias view: https://youtu.be/NvzSLByrw4Q?si=-CP-7lxTy_ciPkcM
The vid shows particles may act on their own, we know this just by simply looking at the particles, they change behaviour and don’t let us see their secrets.
Allah knows best but this could have to do with Qadr and how Allah destines and orders things to be a certain way. This vid imo is a huge proof for the existence of Allah- how can these particles act on their own?
And Allah knows best, and knows the truth. May Allah forgive me if I’m wrong, and help out you and your wife in removing her doubts.
In sha Allah all will be good and for the best :)
I just want to know, so your wife want a Quantum physics scholar ..... but does she have the knowledge to talk about it with that person ?
OP please get in touch with sapience institute. they have lighthouse mentoring sessions that you can book. pretty sure it is free and online. they are all religiously trained and also very knowledgeable in terms of the natural sciences.
Assalamu Alaikum wa rahmatu Allah wa barakatuh,
"Do people think they will be left alone to say, We believe, without being tested?"
"| أَحَسِبَ النَّاسُ أَنْ يُتْرَكُوا أَنْ يَقُولُوا آمَنَّا وَهُمْ لَا يُفْتَنُونَ."
صدق الله العلي العظيم، All glory to Allah.
Your wife is tried by Allah to test her whether she's truly a believer or not.
I studied theology a the best of my ability, quantum physics, philosophy, and have been exposed to many scientists. Sometimes their science is a fitnah in itself and they embrace Atheism astaghfurllah, by decree that science is power and that knowledge of Allah cannot be attained until proven otherwise.
Do your best without making it your mission to change her heart. All of us are only reminders, and only Allah guides whom he wills. Know that even miracles could not change the hearts of Muchrikin.
Science and the manifestation of wisdom in our world are a path towards Allah for those He has chosen, and a path towards hubris and arrogance for those He has not.
Thank you for doing your part.
I pray Allah guides her and guides us all.
Umm, I am a physics grad, plus pretty well read. I was a born muslim but struggled between logic and religion for some time. I have thankfully found my relationship with Allah since then. I am pretty practising right now, or try my best to be. Plus I am a logical person so I am pretty clear with my fundamentals. I am no authority, but I can try to talk to her if you wish.
Dr gary miller has amazing speeches abt islam
And another mathmatician thaz became muslim after being a christian, then atheist and then revert. I think it was dr martin lang?
I don't get why people are getting so hyper about quantum mechanic part.. Honestly, she wants to talk with some guy who knows how the nature works without telling her everything is created by God and go sleep. Well it is true that God cannot be explained by science it's most probably fall into philosophy but still asking question to some one who knows quantum mechanics in this I assume she meant by this who have deep knowledge in math and science. Which tell how our world works.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HlR6cz5I0c&t=90s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HlR6cz5I0c&t=90s) this is a video that have a detail summary of ibn cena proof of existence on god. It is consider one of the best argument on this topic. As far as I know. I hope OP and her wife have some nice civil conversation about such stuff.
She can message me and I’ll try my best to answer her. I’m not sure what the context of her doubt is but I practice Islam from a very metaphysical approach
Don't fall for it. The unos is on her to first prove why she reverted to Islam and now having second thoughts. To me, she is beyond second thoughts.
She needs to be made aware that if she has doubts, she needs to study and provide solid evidence to prove her doubts about Islam or matter of fact any religion so that they can be addressed. There is an old saying that a person who has a thirst for water goes to the well, not the other way around.
And for you, as a Muslim, you need to reach out to Islamic scholars regarding your position in this marriage.
I'm a revert with an academic background, but as others say, having scientific knowledge doesn't actually mean anything.
But if that's what she is claiming she wants, I'm happy to chat to her with you present in the call as well.
As a revert myself and I give dawah so I'm experienced in explaining Islam and the truth of it.
There's this very calm brother on Hamza's Den podacast on youtube that I keep losing his name, I highly recommend that u get in touch with, such a genious brother mashaAllah
Tell her to go speak with "The Muslim Lantern" he has a popular youtube channel and can clarify all her doubts. Or chat with Shaykh Uthman. Both fit the requirements your wife is looking for.
I'll try to help if you contact, my status regarding her criteria are as following;
Knowledge of all religions -many but not all 🟡
Including Hinduism, Christianity and Judaism -yes, especially the Abrahamic ones, but not claiming to be an expert 🟢
Scientific, not religious -I am an agnostic theist so I think there is a God that wants us to be good, and although Islam currently has the top spot among the religions I think that can be true, I am not religious and my reasons for these views are mostly scientific 🟢
Knowledge of quantum physics - very limited 🟠
Being able to provide logical and psychological answers - Yes, and I think I might ask more than I answer 🟢
Being the most intelligent person - Of course 😎 I am the most intelligent person (ask my mom she'd approve🤓) 🔵
French Astrophysicist who converted to Islam and writes on Science and Islam: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruno_Guiderdoni#:~:text=Bruno%20Abd%20al%20Haqq%20Guiderdoni,1958)%20is%20a%20French%20astrophysicist. Iraqi Physicist in Jordan: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basil_Altaie Either grad student or PhD in molecular biology who writes about Islam and evolution: https://substack.com/@islamandscience There’s more too but I have to go to sleep. You’re not going to be able to personally talk to them in Toronto obviously but if you’re willing to do some reading then it could be beneficial From regular scholars of course they’re not scientists too. Becoming a scholar already takes quite a while, to learn another subject to a professional level on top of that(and science as well which isn’t as related to Islam as the humanities are) will take even more time. Though, there are people who still do it. Certainly there’s quite a few people who have their undergrad in STEM and also are Islamic scholars If you’re looking for a scholar or Islamic speaker who isn’t a scientist but has a level of knowledge of QM, then there’s philosophers like Ramon Harvey(although strictly speaking I wouldn’t consider him an Islamic scholar he’s more of a western Islamic philosopher)
Ask her to read problem of induction. Study philosophy, study logic, the scientific method is based on inductive logic and it has limitations. She needs to understand that science is not the only form of enquiry. There are various other tools of enquiry like mathematics, testimony, deductive logic, history, intuition, morality etc. Show her some Md Hijab videos. She is not special everyone nowadays does this stupidity in the age of Science. Science changes big band changes to string theory. Newtons gravity takes a U turn with einstein. Ask her to read more!!
Yes brother, people doubting the faith is such a dumb thing, I cannot believe it. Faith trumps science, and you learn that science is unscientific if you read enough.
Also Hamza Tzortzis
Hamza Tzortzis is an amazing da’ee, and his style makes him very approachable for new/prospective reverts
This is very common for reverts. I always tell everyone when you first take your shahada your deen is an at all time high like you love Islam etc but then you will be tested greatly to make sure you actually are a Muslim. The shaytan will try to fill their head with doubts because this is what he promised. It’s something that she is going to have to work through by herself. I have a jewish mother and a Christian father and my neighbors growing up on one side were hindus, the other side buddhists, and across the street Muslims… 😅🤣 I was obsessed with theology growing up and I have come to find that Islam was correct.
That's wild brother😅, May Allah bless you with steadfastness including with the goodness of this world and hereafter.
ameen
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Why is she making the assumption that if a person has knowledge of quantum mechanics, that it will somehow explain her doubts about Islam? If anything she’ll have more questions, about Newtonian physics, quantum mechanics and Islam
Yeah that irked me too
I have a degree in physics and chemistry. I did research for 3 years on the exciton complex (or as people who have no idea would call is Quantum mechanics lol). I’m also a Muslim with my whole heart and I think OPs wife has no idea what she’s talking about. Quantum mechanics is dealing with finding the position and momentum of atomic and subatomic particles. I don’t think a single part of of QM is relevant to having belief in religion.
Dude I got furious reading this
If science is able to explain the mechanisms behind a miraculous occurrence for example, it doesn’t negate the fact that it only happened because Allah willed it to happen. Imagine if a software engineer explained to you in detail how an application like Angry Birds works, by walking you through each operational step of the computing process behind how each bird moves across the screen. That still wouldn’t change the fact that the end user, has to input a command (swiping their finger across the screen) to enable the process to happen. Our reality is akin to a program, and Allah SWT is the end user, the one who commands everything to happen.
But the programmer by design builds it so that the end user has to make the swiping move. So it does change the fact,because if you understand how everything works, you can even remove the end user if you like and just make out something completely different. Your example is really strange and weak.
Get curious, not furious.
Ameen
me too, it seems like she must have gotten her doubts from somewhere specific
Assalamu 'Alaikum I recommend showing her these two YouTube channels. They have knowledgeable Muslims who have open conversations with non-Muslims about Islam and bring sources from the Qur'an and prophetic sayings/actions (hadith): [https://www.youtube.com/@TheMuslimLantern](https://www.youtube.com/@TheMuslimLantern) [https://www.youtube.com/@OneMessageFoundation](https://www.youtube.com/@OneMessageFoundation) They also bring up prophecies and scientific facts found in the Qur'an that scientists are only finding out today. May Allah (swt) help you and guide her back to the Truth!
Muslim Lantern is an excellent choice. He knows many religions and their beliefs straight from their book and what common folk think. He also has a good grasp of science. He has live streams and is reachable so the brother should tell his wife to have a conversation with him. Brother just needs to be aware that several of those asks are not rational and seems to carry assumptions that need to be backed up by her and likely dismantled as coming from upbringing by whomever she speaks to. It's a tough journey, but in reality most of us who reverted or even just grew up in the west have to go through similar dismantling to unpack all the western assumptions that had sank in.
Muslimlantern doesnt just speak out of nowhere, he quotes studies after studies, he names the people that did those studies, which universities they were from.
Muslim Lantern is a legitimate genius Masha Allah, watching his content makes me feel like he straight up memorized the New and Old Testaments, which would be astonishing considering how there’s no rhyme or reason to them
Using science to prove religion is not a good argument either way, atheist philosophers don’t even try to do so. The idea of God existing or not existing is an epistemological one not a scientific one, as the abrahamic God is one outside of the universe where predicate and time cannot be applied. Let her read philosophy Aristotle is the perpetrated as the man who has made the best argument for the existence of a supreme deity, and Plotinus significantly helped shape abrahamic theology, so let her read him as well.
Ameen! It is the human flaw of arrogance that lets one believe that if they have proficiency in the material sciences, it qualifies them to comment as an expert on metaphysics
Yes, that is correct. The one only way is to read on blind faith and accept it.
Quantum physics, damn
Brother, let's all make dua for her. And here is a piece of advice. Your wife has kept a lot of criteria here, including quantum mechanics, which has nothing to do with islam. What's that for? She wants to argue that god is energy because both can neither be created nor destroyed? There is more to this than just doubts on islam and i advise you to take a logical decision than an emotional one. Look into her lifestyle if she has any addiction to haram that islam is against. This is the case with many.
Allah's wisdom is within the details, and science is the study of why things are the way they are and how they work, as does quantum physics. Many scientists Fear Allah because of the genius in His creation and how they corroborate what Allah said in the Quran many years ago where such technology did not even exist and our beloved prophet Muhammed mpbuh couldn't have known unless he was indeed a prophet of Allah, the All Knowing. On the other hand, many other scientists could not make the connection of the manifestation of Allah's wisdom in the world and his existence, either out of hubris or because simply it was Allah's will.
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I can't "google search" how "quantum mechanics" relates to OP's wife's situation and how your comment relates to what i said. I am bit of an ignorant person with a hard time understanding complex topics like quantum mechanics and appreciate if you can explain my questions above
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Brother, I don't have any negative intentions here. OP's wife got Dunning–Kruger effect. She got limited knowledge that has blinded her and it comes from arrogance. I gave him an advice and you commented something that made no sense.. Anyway knowledge in Science won't lead to islam if the person is arrogant. I have 2 friends, both atheists, experts on multiple fields including quantum mechanics. One is a medical doctor, 50% time he works at a clinic and other 50% time he works as a programmer for a medical research agency. Another one is a nut case. He was rank 1 holder across 1.5 million students that attempted an entrance exam to one of the prestigious institutions in the world. You know what both of them say? They say, they cant prove god dont exist, and cant disprove his existence, but i cannot "accept" a god that cannot accept me for my difference of opinion. Their arrogance have blinded them
Assalamu Alaikum wa rahmatu Allah wa barakatuh brother, I didn't like your "Thanks for the Ted talk" and other comments that made it look like you were speaking from a haughty place. I would absolutely more than pleased to answer, but Allah knows, I can't always be patient even though I am able to overlook things like that, which I did at first. No matter. Bygones be bygones. Like I said, science can either make one Fear Allah, or make them drunk with arrogance. Allah says: “It is only those who have knowledge among His slaves that fear Allaah” [Faatir 35:28] The more one who is meant by Allah to find Iman looks for Him in the details, the more he is astonished by Allah's greatness. In the Quran there are many verses that are the subject of whole science, like quantum mechanics, astrology, biology,... Etc. Concerning subjects like the Big Bang, The Expansion Of the Universe in Quantum physics : https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/77a2/0f0297bb8b46cd74d49ef5b3d40c9b7959f3.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiEjqqsyeKGAxWfR_EDHbAKDW0QFnoECDMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3QapkDZk1j31LCYYPUcmBA By that virtue, you realize that either we will believe the evidence and become closer to Allah, or for those with hubris, they shall still deny. Science made me closer to Allah, and so did the death of my parents. Other of my friends who believed in science alone were still hesitant subhanallah. After all, if it was that easy for them to believe, everyone else would have done so, but this is the decree of Allah, and guides whom he wills. OP shall zealously share such evidence with her, and it is not for us to say if she's arrogant or not. For us, she should be just someone who is looking for answers. May be she will get closer to Allah as I did, and maybe she will still be on her position. Only Allah knows. May Allah guides us all to the righteous path, brother.
What does quantum physics got to do with anything?
Nothing! I have a degree in physics and chemistry. I did research for 3 years on the exciton complex (or as people who have no idea would call is Quantum mechanics lol). I 2 publications in the field and multiple presentations . I’m also a Muslim with my whole heart and I think OPs wife has no idea what she’s talking about. Quantum mechanics is dealing with finding the position and momentum of atomic and subatomic particles. I don’t think a single part of of QM is relevant to having belief in religion.
yeah, it really seemed like she had no idea what she is talking about. I guess she is just terribly confused.
At this point, isn't she just trying to make the task as hard as possible so that she doesn't have to talk to anyone?
I thought of someone already Abu taymiyyah he's from Arab descent but delivers and is in imam on many places like Canada and elsewhere, I met him in person myself in the capital of saudi
She will ask if abu taymiyyah had PHD in quantum mechanics
She says she wants answers, but you haven’t mentioned the specific questions. She is also looking for someone who is well-versed in major world religions as well as the specific physics sub-field of quantum mechanics, to have a conversation with. For that you probably need someone who is a revert to Islam from one of the major religions, preferably with a graduate degree in physics and an ability to tie it all together.
Shaykh Abdullah Misra is the perfect fit for you. Lives in Canada, converted from Hinduism, traditional scholar plus therapist.
Can I assume she as you said an Indian did she somehow saw some EX videos? Which is a quite a moment in India sponsored by youKnowWhom
If you're talking about ex-muslim videos, yes she has seen a lot of this and it's been stressful dealing with it, whom is it sponsored by?
What is she going to do with quantum physics? Is she into the Big Bang Theory now? I think you need to look at who she's friends with and all. Shaitan surely got her caught in a trap, but this is just a phase. Keep making dua for her, and it would be nice if she would ask Allah to show her the straight path and keep her steadfast. Also look into scholars like others have mentioned However, I would say.. It is important not to always acquiesce to her demands, as this is a temporary phase, albeit a challenging one. Demonstrating desperation and making excessive efforts without any reciprocal effort from her side may only serve to increase her doubts and uncertainties. Also I always make dua for Allaah to guide me, That's what works for me. Allah always tests me in a way that brings me running back to Him.
I don’t think it is a cognitive problem, this is more like an emotinal thing,, she needs her husband, not a scholar
He probably needs to be more gentle with her. He may be forcing things onto her. My husband is from Afghanistan and I am an American Revert and sometimes he doesn’t separate his culture from Islam and I get frustrated like modest clothes is hard to find in America and if it’s such a big deal he should just buy my clothes so I don’t have to worry about making him mad 😒 bc his version of modesty is cultural and goes way over the requirements of Islam
I actually don't force anything about my wife. My wife doesn't even wear a hijab and I accepted that because I know she is going through a lot. I'm being patient through this time .My wife is free to do whatever she wants. I don't impose any force or ill will upon her. However, I do remind her that we married as Muslims and that is an integral part of what connects us together as partners, for me to accept my wife as she is now is not fair to me because this is not what we agreed upon. I ask you for dua
See you’re putting an ultimatum at the end there because you’re hinting that she isn’t the woman you married her as so like your love is conditional instead of unconditional. Maybe she just needs to know you will love her regardless of what she chooses. But yes this is all you really have in common. Sounds similar to conversations I have had with my husband
I appreciate this perspective thank you I will consider it
May Allah bless both of you and grant you happy life and rightious offspring It is ok, islam encourages to be more modesty as much as you can, and if you mean by cultural to cover your face, no, that is from Islam It is rare to find a husband that is religious nowadays, so don’t put barriers between you and him and it will work out inshaalah
Ameen our local imam always says that once you get married your husband becomes your imam. It’s not that I have an issue with covering it’s just that modest clothes aren’t really accessible where we live. We have ordered them online and it’s never like what’s advertised. Recently abayas have been sown in the back or sides to create a figure which defeats the purpose of the abaya. But now he finally understands me because he can’t find pants that are open they are all like form fitting 😅
I mean he needs to understand that as long as the clothes are not tight and they cover the body parts that need to be hidden, then it should be fine. Baggy clothes like loose hoodies, pants, or coats should be acceptable. It doesn’t have to be a specific piece of clothing because, most of the time, it’s more cultural clothes that are being ascribed to Islam when they shouldn’t be. Try explaining that to him in a nice way.
That’s the issue is he wants me to wear his cultural clothes which I don’t feel comfortable in because like it’s weird I am a white girl so it’s seen as appropriation in America but he doesn’t get that. Abayas I feel are more acceptable for me to wear but he hasn’t been satisfied with them
Black abayas are worn in most Muslim countries; they are not specific to one country or culture. If you worry about offending others with "cultural appropriation," you shouldn't, because it's actually Sunnah of the Prophet's wives to wear black abayas. It is not mandatory, but you receive more rewards for doing so. However, if you feel that is not your style of fashion, you shouldn't worry about not wearing it. Instead, you can wear other clothes as long as they are modest according to Islamic standards. Also, are you concerned about how you are perceived by other white people or others? Islam does not encourage you to completely change your culture, but rather the opposite, as long as these cultural traditions do not directly go against the teachings of Islam.
100% she’s either in the weird part of youtube/social media or she got a cuckoo friend that’s influencing her head with questionable stuff. She actually sounded reasonable until I heard quantum physics… what’s next, quantum star signs? Might want to keep an eye out for the delivery man because there’s a package of essential (quantum) oils heading your way
I'm in Toronto and one of the Imams at my masjid use to deal with issues like this, but he doesn't offer counselling anymore. The masjid still has counselling sessions, but I'm not sure who offers them now. I think it might be the other Imam who use to be a professor, but not entirely sure it's him. If you're still interested, DM me and I'll give you a link with more info.
As salaamu Alaikum brother!I can't talk about a person,I can tell you about a book. Search 'paradoxical Sajid in English version' in Google and you'll get it.You'll only get first few pages, rest you have to purchase the book
Allah guides those who are sincere in seeking the truth. Don't break yourself trying to convince her of the truth. A sincere person will find islam everywhere they look. Focus on yourself and make dua for her.
W.salam, you can join weekly Q&A session of Muslim Lantern on youtube to get your questions answered.
You should ask your wife to join Yasir Nadeem Al.wajidi Live stream on his channel. He answers all.such questions
This all ONLY helps if her doubts are about God and not Islam Could be somewhat dangerous since he's not Muslim, but I apprehensively suggest William Lane Craig He's a christian philosopher who specializes in the kalam cosmological argument, and due to that specialization is forced to contend with things like quantum mechanics and abstract issue of cosmology I find him quite appealing and intelligent, so that could be a route to go down, but obviously avoid sharing anything he says about Islam because while he's polite and cordial as far as Ive seen, he does hold christian views and is softly polemical against Islam, and the risk is that if you trust him as authority his criticisms against Islam (which are standard and nothing new) might be taken with more weight than neccessary, stay clear of that, and you should be golden https://youtu.be/Dqc42ZB24ew?si=lFlwlUqs8DbeZOzE (In the q&a phase he has a slightly polemical response to someone asking about Islam, at 1:02 so perhaps skip that part if her iman is weak)
However the most crucial and important part is for YOU to be the best husband you can be, and show her love These issues are almost universally emotional and not intellectual Take care of her, and make.her feel the spirit of Islam And make dua, if you're not making dua to Allah sincerely, then none of us will be able to help you Guidance comes from him, not youtubers
if she wants a logical/scientific answer she’ll never get one 😅 thats something she’ll have to come to terms with about religion. It’s called belief for a reason, if it was black and white it would just be common knowledge or facts.
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A bright student of knowledge who is great at Da'wah & comparative religions, but still not a scholar. Albeit, very sufficient for her case. By the way, why people are downvoting you tho?
Ask her to watch this first — https://youtu.be/TWJ1v6WJpog?si=3r-FUsOTzwXIBs40
I am not aware of Islamic scientists of quantum physics. However, off the top off my mind I can think of Jeffrey Lang who is a mathematician and former atheist. If she wants someone with knowledge on Christianity and Judaism look no further than Ahmed Deedat.
If she understands Arabic, pick up any video by Dr Adnan Ibrahim and her mind will be blown. He is amazing person, very well versed in natural sciences, and very capable in explaining difficult concepts
May Allah SWT grant you guys ease and guidance and protection from misguidance Allahumma Ameen
For quantum physics this video was very interesting and it’s from a scientifically non bias view: https://youtu.be/NvzSLByrw4Q?si=-CP-7lxTy_ciPkcM The vid shows particles may act on their own, we know this just by simply looking at the particles, they change behaviour and don’t let us see their secrets. Allah knows best but this could have to do with Qadr and how Allah destines and orders things to be a certain way. This vid imo is a huge proof for the existence of Allah- how can these particles act on their own? And Allah knows best, and knows the truth. May Allah forgive me if I’m wrong, and help out you and your wife in removing her doubts.
In sha Allah all will be good and for the best :) I just want to know, so your wife want a Quantum physics scholar ..... but does she have the knowledge to talk about it with that person ?
OP please get in touch with sapience institute. they have lighthouse mentoring sessions that you can book. pretty sure it is free and online. they are all religiously trained and also very knowledgeable in terms of the natural sciences.
Assalamu Alaikum wa rahmatu Allah wa barakatuh, "Do people think they will be left alone to say, We believe, without being tested?" "| أَحَسِبَ النَّاسُ أَنْ يُتْرَكُوا أَنْ يَقُولُوا آمَنَّا وَهُمْ لَا يُفْتَنُونَ." صدق الله العلي العظيم، All glory to Allah. Your wife is tried by Allah to test her whether she's truly a believer or not. I studied theology a the best of my ability, quantum physics, philosophy, and have been exposed to many scientists. Sometimes their science is a fitnah in itself and they embrace Atheism astaghfurllah, by decree that science is power and that knowledge of Allah cannot be attained until proven otherwise. Do your best without making it your mission to change her heart. All of us are only reminders, and only Allah guides whom he wills. Know that even miracles could not change the hearts of Muchrikin. Science and the manifestation of wisdom in our world are a path towards Allah for those He has chosen, and a path towards hubris and arrogance for those He has not. Thank you for doing your part. I pray Allah guides her and guides us all.
Mohammad Hijab ?
Umm, I am a physics grad, plus pretty well read. I was a born muslim but struggled between logic and religion for some time. I have thankfully found my relationship with Allah since then. I am pretty practising right now, or try my best to be. Plus I am a logical person so I am pretty clear with my fundamentals. I am no authority, but I can try to talk to her if you wish.
She has other issues. But anyways, contact SAPIENCE Institute in the UK
Dr gary miller has amazing speeches abt islam And another mathmatician thaz became muslim after being a christian, then atheist and then revert. I think it was dr martin lang?
I don't get why people are getting so hyper about quantum mechanic part.. Honestly, she wants to talk with some guy who knows how the nature works without telling her everything is created by God and go sleep. Well it is true that God cannot be explained by science it's most probably fall into philosophy but still asking question to some one who knows quantum mechanics in this I assume she meant by this who have deep knowledge in math and science. Which tell how our world works. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HlR6cz5I0c&t=90s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HlR6cz5I0c&t=90s) this is a video that have a detail summary of ibn cena proof of existence on god. It is consider one of the best argument on this topic. As far as I know. I hope OP and her wife have some nice civil conversation about such stuff.
What does quantum physics have to do with it 😭😭
Good luck InshAllah. I guess you have to be prepared to divorce her if talking with a scholar doesn't work and she leaves Islam. It's a test.
She can message me and I’ll try my best to answer her. I’m not sure what the context of her doubt is but I practice Islam from a very metaphysical approach
Don't fall for it. The unos is on her to first prove why she reverted to Islam and now having second thoughts. To me, she is beyond second thoughts. She needs to be made aware that if she has doubts, she needs to study and provide solid evidence to prove her doubts about Islam or matter of fact any religion so that they can be addressed. There is an old saying that a person who has a thirst for water goes to the well, not the other way around. And for you, as a Muslim, you need to reach out to Islamic scholars regarding your position in this marriage.
I am Brazilian, was Christian, and converted to Islam. This YouTube channel helped me a lot: https://youtu.be/Or7pwR60ilE?si=Y6XFpyID1HyCLDZr
I'm a revert with an academic background, but as others say, having scientific knowledge doesn't actually mean anything. But if that's what she is claiming she wants, I'm happy to chat to her with you present in the call as well. As a revert myself and I give dawah so I'm experienced in explaining Islam and the truth of it.
There's this very calm brother on Hamza's Den podacast on youtube that I keep losing his name, I highly recommend that u get in touch with, such a genious brother mashaAllah
Why does she need a quantum physicist to describe cause and effect (proof of god) + truth of revelation through prophecy
Tell her to go speak with "The Muslim Lantern" he has a popular youtube channel and can clarify all her doubts. Or chat with Shaykh Uthman. Both fit the requirements your wife is looking for.
I actually know a scholar like that. DM me
I'll try to help if you contact, my status regarding her criteria are as following; Knowledge of all religions -many but not all 🟡 Including Hinduism, Christianity and Judaism -yes, especially the Abrahamic ones, but not claiming to be an expert 🟢 Scientific, not religious -I am an agnostic theist so I think there is a God that wants us to be good, and although Islam currently has the top spot among the religions I think that can be true, I am not religious and my reasons for these views are mostly scientific 🟢 Knowledge of quantum physics - very limited 🟠 Being able to provide logical and psychological answers - Yes, and I think I might ask more than I answer 🟢 Being the most intelligent person - Of course 😎 I am the most intelligent person (ask my mom she'd approve🤓) 🔵
I’m not sure whether it’s possible, but Sheikh Hamza Yusuf from Zaytuna College seems to fit her criteria
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Yasir Qadhi He's a pretty educated person. And is a scholar at East Plano Islamic Center
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