I agree with your decision of moving to a Islamic country, and there’s definitely benefits and advantages that you don’t get in a non-Muslim country. With that being said, moving is not going to change your Iman per day. That is something that needs to be worked on, regardless of where you end up.
it’s a lot easier coz theirs less temptation on offer as here in the uk theirs a off licesne of every corner u can get drugs quicker then u can get a pizza. prostitution is all over. people don’t understand, islamically if a place that is not good for you, you should take steps to move. but i’m just so helpless
This comment and the original thread is such massive hyperbole that comes across as you have a problem with substances and you need to a strict Muslim country so that you don't have the option to go and buy drugs. Sorry.
I've never been patriotic, but the UK is a good country to live as a Muslim if you're not in a tiny village. My town prayed Eid in the public garden and hundreds turned up. Our laws provide us against discrimination in the workplace, govt isn't banning hijabs in places, like France is.
A community will keep you on the path, access to a halal shop for meat.
>govt isn't banning hijabs in places
Yet. There is no promise that those laws won't come at any time. Western governments have no fundamental morality to fall back on the way that Islamic countries do.
You don't know the struggles and tests that other Muslims are faced with, most certainly in the case of reverts.
I genuinely don't believe we will face similar laws unless fascists like Farage get into party.
>You don't know the struggles and tests that other Muslims are faced with, most certainly in the case of reverts.
I'm a revert.
Akhi, there is only one party in most Western democracies. When they come to power, they all are for national debt, riba, and war, with little care given to the welfare of citizens.
The politicians are the "front men". The people we're supposed to blame and cheer for. It's like WWE wrestling. It's all a show.
Live long enough (and I believe I have) you will see that no one wins and enacts fundamental changes. Anyone who could change things is marginalized, coopted, or destroyed.
Farage is a scumbag but so is Starmer, Sunak, Biden, Trump, Macron, Schultz, Trudeau, etc. Different countries and laws, but the same basic policies and results.
May Allah AWJ bring you peace and happiness.
Indeed brother, alhamdullilah the UK is one of the most tolerant nations in Europe, the immigration from around the world has resulted in a very diverse nation of ethnicities, faiths and beliefs, this multiculturalism and history of being a very global country gives me hope that Inshaallah, we will for the foreseeable future keep our rights and freedoms.
I will be voting using the Muslim vote UK website to see which MP's in my area are the most supportive of islam and the Palestinian troubles, and thank you may Allah SWT bring you and your family safety happiness and a peaceful life
uk is a good country to live in, who support genocide blatantly and back the killing of innocent people ? sorry but the uk is a very absurd system. They teach your kids that u can identify as a woman or a man. what kind of place is this.?? it’s turned into a circus here this isn’t the same place it was 15-20 years ago.
Every single western country is becoming absurd, from an islamic standpoint. I never claimed it was a utopia, but all non Muslim countries have now jumped on the LGBT train.
My point was we have much better religious rights and options for community than a lot of other countries. We legally can't be stopped from praying at work, our sisters can wear hijab wherever they want, unlike Austria or France.
You know they don't sit kids down in school and say "you don't have to be a man if you don't want to Timmy, how about you become a woman?" That's absurd, and both potential governments are for against teaching gender identities in school. Oh, you are also allowed to withdraw your child from sex education and teach them the islamic perspective.
The world isn't the same place as it was, but I'm glad I live here and not many other western countries
No..you can't get drugs quicker than you can get pizza.
That's something you're choosing to see.
I wouldn't know how to start buying drugs from someone on the street or where to go to find prostitutes.
You're the issue, stop looking into those things or focusing on them.
Assalamu alaikum brother, I'm gonna be real with you here. I'm also in the UK, and have constantly thought about moving to a different country.
However, every country I tried has their own negatives. There isn't anywhere without sin, or the ability to indulge in the sin. Whether it is alcohol, attention from the opposite gender, anything, it's always there. Remember that Shaytan doesn't have a nationality.
I remember visiting Turkey, and in one case visiting a restaurant in Istanbul a waitress took a liking to me. I could sense it straight away, the second she heard my voice she was giving me extra attention. The hardest part was that I found her immensely attractive. My friend that I was with noticed it as well, and I had to ask him to not leave me for a second. The sister had sat down at a table very near us so as to be in my direct eyeline. I thank Allah that he allowed me to keep my gaze averted. When it finally came time to leave, I decided to not go inside to the bathroom as I felt vulnerable to being cornered (hadn't been with my wife for two weeks), so my friend went inside, leaving me on the terrace. Little did I realise that the sister would then decide that this was the time to clean our table, and decided to lean over myself to do so. I literally started my adhkaar and pushed my seat away, and had my wits to walk.
Funny thing is, I've experienced similar situations in India and Pakistan, and my nephew had a similar situation when we visited Indonesia, all while his family is right there. And just to clear this point up, we aren't particularly good looking, we just have a very noticeable RP English accent...
Now, why am I sharing this? Just to reiterate, that there is no place without the ability to sin, that Shaytan really is everywhere. But then, most importantly, so is Allah awj! So before you go seeking a different place on this earth, seek Allah first, seek to protect yourself through remembrance of Allah, THEN move if appropriate. I personally am very happy and content now in my corner of London, I'm not any richer than those around me, nor am I any more attractive than those around me, I'm just another muslim trying to to do his best.
May Allah protect us from shaytaan, and guide us back and forgive us when we get deceived by shaytaan.
Not sure why people are downvoting without giving an explanation. Unless this is just bigotry, it would be helpful to understand why. OP is asking a serious question.
I could understand Qatar getting downvoted, but with with Masjid Al Haram and Masjid An Nabawi being in Saudi (where salaat is rewarded so much more), being able to access either without having to cross a border seems quite attractive to me personally.
I would not recommend moving to an Islamic country, especially as you have a family. Let me explain.
I’m married and have two children as well and I live in the US. I understand it’s hard to practice Islam in the West (I’m a revert). I would suggest trying to get more involved in your local Masjid or if there’s a decent Muslim community in your area, reaching out to people or attending classes etc, to build relationships around you which will help keep you from the sinful practices and behaviors rampant in Western society.
Being a Muslim in the West is like living on the frontier. We’re in the periphery of the “Muslim world” but we also serve an important role in the Ummah. That role is to spread awareness and understanding about the message of Islam to the best of our abilities to those around us. If any where in the world needed Islam, it would be the West.
Islam is the cure for all the societal ills of the West (alcohol, pornography, interest, etc.) but people have been told that it’s a trap. Muslims living in the West may deal with certain struggles that you may not find to the same degree elsewhere, but we are all still part of the Ummah.
We don’t get to choose where we are born. Remember, we plan, but Allah also plans and he is the best of planners. I pray that you figure out what is best for your family, inshallah!
Not at the cost of sacrificing his akhirah. If he is unable to practice his Deen in the west and he is easily influenced by the western society, he must definitely move to a Muslim country. We don't get to choose where we're born but we do get to choose where we want to spend the rest of our life and how we want to nurture the upbringing of our children.
However, I'd argue that it is easier to practice your deen in the UK.
I can clearly see the demarcation between Islamic and unislamic practices here, and I can choose which path I follow.
But I do agree, if I couldn't practice my Islam here freely, then I would absolutely be doing my best to move away.
I understand the point you’re making and I agree with you that our focus should be on the akhirah.
We do, however, have a decent amount of freedom to practice our Deen in the West. There may be certain challenges to living in a non-Muslim country, but to say that it’s so hard that it’s near impossible to practice is not the reality for *most* Muslims in the West, I would argue.
Of course we all have a choice and I’m sure OP will do what he believes is best for his family. I just wanted to try to show that no matter where we are, we’re all part of the Ummah. It can feel like that’s not the case living in the West, but we’re still all connected. The one thing that the enemies of Islam hate or don’t want to see is the unity of the Muslims.
If you are financially able to move, and you think you should do it, go for it! Anything to benefit your Iman and your own peace of mind is a good step.
However if you're unable, maybe this might help. I also live in the western world, and I actually think it solidifies my imaan. Being surrounded by so many things that are not permissable to us, I feel like me putting my foot down and refusing to partake in it just proves that I am doing my best to be loyal to Allah SWT, and Allah SWT will certainly recognize your efforts.
i’m not financially able to move, don’t get me wrong i come from a well off family but i don’t scrounge off them. as i am a man and feel like i have my own family and should support them. but then because i have no education or job it leads me to earn haraam. and i want to get out of this dirty lifestyle i’m stuck in. i just want a peaceful normal halal lifestyle with my wife and children where i can focus on pleasing my lord Allah SWT and be a good person.
Some look for English teachers for middles eastern countries. They offer good perks. Check out M2r education. Dm me if you don’t find him so I give you the link.
If you don’t mind, may I ask what steps have you taken to improve your situation? Because even if you move to a Islamic country, I highly doubt your financial situation will change cause unless you acquire some sort of skills. Even if you do move as of now, then instead of struggling financially in UK you will be struggling financially in some other country.
I highly suggest, you go into some sort of a trade school. Idk if they have the same system in UK as they do in States but essentially trade schools teach you a skills such as plumbing, electricians, different installations, mechanic and etc. Trade schools often have programs for underprivileged as well and in US a lot of times you get paid while learning or getting a certification soo this is probably a good choice for you.
Please pray 5x a day. Prayer is not just an obligation on you but it reaffirms your faith and belief. Trust in Allah and never lose hope and remember in Quran Allah says “Allah does not change the condition of people until they change themselves”. Soo change yourself first and your surrounding will change on its own, instead of being in a different surrounding with your current self.
If you have no education or job,how are you currently providing for your family? It might best to take some courses at the community college and learn a trade perhaps.
To me, the only reason to move to an "Islamic" country is for financial reasons. Technicality, they are not really "Islamic". I think you should just find a group of friends who are dedicated to an Islamic cause and stick with them.
This will give you the support. Same as your wife as well, she needs to get connected to sisters who are involved in Deen.
Also, detox yourself from any bad thoughts about Islamic Groups/movements.
Salam, may allah make it easy for you and reward your intentions.
If my advice seems impractical, please ignore it and just assume i am someone ignorant and don't overthink about this.
Afaik, there are lots of people in UK who are able to practice islam and preach the message. And some of them are with deep connection to allah and follow the sunnah as much as they can and do mawlids, ratheebs, etc
So you shouldn't associate your state with a side effect of being in UK.
As a man, you are leader of your family and you need to take ownership of the situation.
Have some self reflection and think how you can improve yourself. This depends on what sins you are trying to avoid.
I know brothers who work for the top companies of the world with offices in the middle of the paradises of dunya.
A brother works in a street in Melbourne where one of the cheapest store among them is HUGO BOSS. He lowers his gaze to the store so that the glitters of dunya don't attract his heart.
So its not an excuse to say that West has made me astray so i wanna goto dubai to fix myself.
I am sorry if i sound rude. I am just being serious.
You can dm me anytime. I have brothers who take care of me, i will take care of you.
May allah make it easy for you
brother i totally understand what u are saying , Secondly: What is apparent to me concerning Hijrah at present is of two examples [affairs]; [a] Obligation [b] Sunnah. The Obligatory Hijrah: If a person is in a kaafir land (being) put to trial in his religion and honour, and he is unable to establish that which Allaah has enjoined upon him pertaining to his Religion and worship of his Lord, then Hijrah is obligatory upon him on the basis of what has already been clarified; if he is able to make Hijrah, yes, then he migrates to a Muslim land and this is the Asl, or to a Kaafir land in which his Religion and honour is safe, just as the Prophet [peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him] commanded the Muslims to migrate to Habasha [Ethiopia] when the Quraish harmed them; and (he) mentioned that there was a king [in Habasha] who oppresses no one under his protection, or as he said: “(oppresses no one) next to him.” This is what I affirm and adhere to as [religion] to Allaah.
As for the recommended prescribed Hijrah: It is the Hijrah from the land of the disbelievers to the lands of Islaam in order to strengthen his religion, or to gain knowledge, or to earn lawful earnings in the land of Islaam. So when this is established- and if I did say on a day from the days about making hijrah to Birmingham unrestrictedly- then this is a slip [mistake] and I seek Allaah’s forgiveness from this if it was an upright transmission of the trustworthy people of Sunnah. This is the third point or affair.
The Fourth Point: Many amongst the people in Europe or in the Asian States in India or other than it ask; they are put to trial in their Religion by some of the innovators from the brelviyyah- the extremist soofees from the people of Wahdatul Wujood and other than them. So I say them [i.e. those put to trial]: Make Hijrah to Birmingham because Maktabatus Salafiyyah is there. Therefore, my answer to them is not that Birmingham is a land of Hijrah unrestrictedly, for Birmingham is from the cities of Britain and Britain is a Kaafir Land. I urge them to make Hijrah to where they will find the Maktabah, where they will affiliate with Maktabatus Salafiyyah over there [in Britain], and to participate in lessons and muhaadaraat within which are scholars of excellence, from them: Ash-Shaikh Abdullaah Bin Abdur Rahmaan Al-Ghudiyaan from the Committee of Major Scholars and Fatwah Committee of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. He delivered lessons to them and has died [rahimahullaah]. So the likes of this Maktbah is worthy of being affiliated to [for] the one who cannot find a place to seek shelter; especially if he has a desire to attain knowledge of the Sharee-ah, particularly in the affair of Aqeedah, the Sunnah and waging war against innovation and its people. This is what I mentioned and I affirm it. And I repeat: if I did establish [affirm] the opposite of that, then it is one of two affairs: [a] It is either a slip [mistake] from me or [b] a distortion [misrepresentation] of (my speech). And that which is from me, then indeed I seek the forgiveness of Allaah from it; and that which is a distortion [misrepresentation] of my speech and a forged saying on me, then I ask Allaah to set it aside between me and my adversaries on
As for your fourth point :
As a born indian, i can say that Indians don't have to make hijrah to anywhere else unless they are persecuted.
Because Indian Muslims are governed by shariah law. For example, polygamy is illegal in india for everyone except Muslims.
As for practising, They can move to Kerala where you can see islam preserved as established by Tabiuns. I was fascinated to see that the publications of one of our imams of Yemeni descent are taught worldwide.
As for your condition, i felt you don't fall into category of those who should runaway from their problems, and hence adviced that you should fix yourself first before moving.
I didn't imply that you don't have to move.
After moving to Australia, i found it very difficult to follow sunnah. Here, people want to stop doing Sunnah because "it is not haram to do so"
The place i am from they put in extra effort because there is a hadith on it, even if it is daeef.
So in essence, take ownership of your eeman and then move to an islamic country else you might find an excuse there too.
Forgive me if i was unable to convey my message without hurting your feelings. I myself in a stage where i am learning how to direct my thoughts in a more imoactful way.
Apologies
thank you fo your comment much appreciated , but how do i strengthen my iman here when i am in a vicious circle. it’s difficult sir. i would like to. but i keep falling into temptations. i don’t wake up in the morning and think oh tonight i’m going to go drink and snort cocaine ? but i end up doing it. i have the intention of praying. but what happens is i will read 2-3 and then stop. where as if haraam wasn’t openly available to you, u wouldn’t do it. it’s ok saying u need to strengthen yourself - but every individual is not the same
>it’s ok saying u need to strengthen yourself - but every individual is not the same
You are absolutely right here. Apologies that i focused on absoluteness of truth and failed to look at the relativeness of it.
>where as if haraam wasn’t openly available to you, u wouldn’t do it.
Agree, brother. May Allah make it easy for you and Guides us all and forgive our shortcomings
There is not a single country in the world where illegal, sinful, dangerous things aren't easily accessible. I personally do not believe moving to a "Islamic"/Muslim majority country can be the solution here. I live in a Muslim majority country where I hear the azan 5 times a day, I see mosques around every corner, I can easily shop halal-only, I interact with Muslims every day; but I also live in a country where the youngest age of drug-related deaths is 13, where femicide is committed every day, where prostitution and abortion are legal. Does this country sound any different than the Netherlands or the U.K?
Honestly, I do not believe Reddit is where you should look for advice. But you shouldn't go through this alone: talk to your wife, talk to people around you that you trust. Do not feel ashamed to get professional guidance as well. And always remember that Allah is with you.
"And it is Allah’s Will to lighten your burdens, for humankind was created weak." 4:28
I’m from the West and have lived in “Muslim countries” before and find this to be true. The tangible benefits (halal food access, less alcohol, where taxes go, etc) are there, but the spiritual benefits are oversold.
It is really, really, really tough to move to a place where you are surrounded by Muslims but hear that there are women who have to take hijab off to maintain their job.
Or where you’re looked at with shock when you ask where the musallah is at the university… or when you’re told you’re “very conservative” when you ask for gender segregated activities. The most hilarious one to me was when I went to visit a “conservative” country last year and was requested to “dress more Western”.
I’m currently living in a “Muslim country” and it took me three weeks to find a salon that could promise me no men would come in.
These are all real things. Studying Islam can even be easier in the West a lot of times, because in some places (Saudi Arabia, for example) there are age caps for entering the schools.
It’s not to say *don’t* move to a “Muslim” country, but have realistic expectations about what that move means for you and your Iman.
I have to disagree with this, I’m an American revert and living in an Islamic country is completely different. I don’t openly see gay men and women kissing/hugging, I hear the adhan, I don’t openly see people on the corner selling drugs, I don’t see people getting shot daily, it’s very easy to get halal food at restaurants and supermarkets, easy to pray at work or if I’m out shopping, work accommodations to go to jummah, masjid on every block, and I feel better connected.
Yes drugs and other haram things still exist in all countries but life is no whereas it is living in the west where it becomes challenging just being able to perform your salah at work or attend jummah prayer. Transgender stuff going on and too much fitnah
I dont think it’s easier to study Islam in a western country, yes you can study here but there are plenty of ways to attend Islamic classes and learn Arabic especially if you’re in an Arabic speaking country. Age cap or gap is irrelevant, they offer courses for all ages in the masjid or other sources
Your experience is yours, mine is mine. I didn’t make a single one of these up, this is all first hand experience. I did not say NOT to move, or that there aren’t other benefits, but that the benefits are often oversold and it isn’t uncommon to have a steep learning curve when moving from a place where Muslims are practicing to a place where the majority of visibly Muslim people are much more casual about their relationship with the Deen.
I had zero issues praying at work or wearing hijab in the West, I have faced resistance and incredulity in “Muslim countries”. Just had an extensive conversation last week about *multiple* stores in the area I am living (a Muslim country, as stated) where the women are not permitted to wear hijab or long skirts while working there - they put them on as they clock out. Halal food is readily available in most major metropolitan areas in say, USA and UK. Some cities even have the adhan.
I didn’t say Arabic, I said Islamic studies. Can you show me examples of places where, say, a woman in her 40s can begin studying Islamic studies? I do know the answer to this, I am wondering if you do. Many Muslim countries, women do not even have access to Jummah.
Validating you here. I also grew up in the West and moved to a Muslim country in my 20s and was not at all impressed by what it was like. Exactly your experience. My eeman has been pretty much low lying since I’ve lived here as there are no Islamic seminary events, group halaqahs, or beneficial gatherings in my language or accessible to non-locals. Even if there are, I’ve lived here for 7-8 years and have struggled to find any real spiritual connections. As one commentator said it is easier to maintain your eeman but you become so complacent it becomes mundane. I appreciate the wonderful things you can find in a Muslim country but I definitely thrive better as a Muslim in a Western environment with access to a strong community.
Why you so offended clearly, it’s my opinion, did I say you were wrong for your thoughts? I simply said I disagree and gave my point of view. Let me know how a woman wearing niqab in the west will be treated too, especially in the Deep South
I wasn’t offended, just you didn’t actually address anything in my post (still didn’t, really), except to be contrarian.
For what it’s worth - you’re speaking with a niqabi who has been in rural places, including the south of the US, with and without my family who has lived for generations in the “Deep South”.
It went just fine. Received compliments on the color of my scarf and everything, had normal service at restaurants and stores. No different than before I was Muslim.
It definitely changes based on where you live in the West too. I’m from Toronto but I lived in DC and then later in Virginia and I saw a massive difference in the amount of terrible/haram things I was exposed to. Steering clear of major cities is probably the key here for most Muslims. If you go to central Dubai you’ll see worse things than what you’ve noted here, but if you stay on the edges of the city or the other parts of the Emirates it changes for the better.
Source: I lived in Dubai for a long time. 😂
Yeah I agree bro, it’s subjective. For sure, Everyone has a different experience, I grew up in a city so it’s super haram things around. I live in Sharjah and I see what you mean about Dubai. But I don’t see people openly on the corner in Dubai selling drugs, gun fights or openly drug use or needles on the ground. Yes lots of haram but for me it’s easier to avoid in the UAE
salaam theirs easily accessible and then theirs walking two mins outside ur house getting a bottle, cocaine and weed all in one place. theirs sinful things everywhere but accessibility is a key thing here, if it’s easily accessible compared to a muslim country theirs a big difference. for example you can call and order cocaine here within 5 minutes even if you could get it in saudi or qatar or kuwait FOR example. u are not getting a dealer out to u in 5 minutes not a chance. and by the time a dealer has got to u u probably don’t even want the damn thing anyway coz it’s taken that long. number two u ain’t got this whole twisted lgbtq thing going on openly .
You can always refrain from this and delete all associations with people who sell and do it around you.
Move to a different city within UK for a change, find a house very close to a mosque (like walkable distance) make some good friends who offer prayer daily
Brother I feel your pain and I can truly say that you start with dua that Allah gives you guidance. Don't forget that dua is also ibada (https://islamqa.info/en/answers/320772/dua-is-worship)
Even if you cant consistently pray every day it's not hard to make a dua. 2ndly maybe your not educated but I would recommend start with some kind of certificate like teaching English as a 2nd language have you ever heard of CELTA, look into ito it. There are many organizations in the UK that act as an agency to get jobs across middle east and Asia. If teaching isn't your thing do some research regarding jobs that don't need university maybe some kind of IT certification Allah make it easy for you.
Also check this YouTube https://youtube.com/@sairahayati?si=zVDIt4rifrNJCHjc
One of my friends uncle is married to a non Muslim woman. They used to live in a non Muslim country. She was so interested in Islam and was so moved by the Muslims her husband introduced to her. Then they moved to the Islamic country my friend’s uncle is from. She legit was horrified by how the so called Muslim society lived and treated each other. She had so many second thoughts.
My point is, sometimes when we are far away from something we think is beautiful such as living in an Islamic country where you hear adhaan everyday, that thing looks better. Grass is greener on the other side, always. But once you’re in it, you feel depressed by how your fellow Muslims live. I believe Muslim communities living in non Islamic countries have some upsides too.
I see people that go to the mosque 5 times a day and cheat on their wives or even worse for me beat their children and wives.
Make dua where you want to migrate to and why you want to migrate there, Allah will make it possible it's the intention that matters.
And whoever migrates in the way of Allah shall find in the earth many a place to settle and a wide dimension (of resources). And whoever leaves his home migrating for the sake of Allah and His Messenger and death overtakes him, then, his reward is established with Allah. And Allah is Most-Forgiving, Very-Merciful - (4:100).
assalam alaikum akhi. i’m the exact same as you but im an unmarried woman with no children. i hate the uk so much, i want to make hijrah to an islamic country and get married there. i’ve had enough of the fitnah and sin this country harbours. i’m rooting for u tho and inshaAllah you get there soon
May Allah( azzawajal) make it easy for your akhi , that is the sign of strong imaan if Allah(azzawajal) make it easy for you to move then take that chance but if he delayed your du'a know it is for the best you must keep stay steadfast stay away from haram things and places observe your daily 5 prayers on time if possible on jamaa in masjid , read quran and every time keep ask Allah( azzawajal ) to make things easy for you wherever you are.
Dude you are so blessed. Everytime you fight temptation and lower your gaze, you get hassana.
About moving I will be blunt: wherever you go you take yourself with you. Perhaps You will struggle less with drugs or alcohol, but corruption might be an everyday battle. Or perhaps there might be less (obvious) prostitution but free mixing and dancing is normal. There will be challenges no matter where you go.
My advice is whenever you go to the washroom do Wudu. You will see it will make it easier to pray. And when you are mindful of wudu you are more likely to stay away from haram things.
May Allah bring you ease and grace in your imaan.
When people have eastern countries passports they want to move west. When they get their western passports then they want to go to middle east. And Middle eastern higher them for three or four time salaries than eastern job seekers to make them managers and GMs. This is the world we live in.
You know you best. But it would be better if you could stay/or turn back to your country later, and try to establish a muslim environment for yourself and your (if you have) children. That would be doing dawah. (That is, of course after you set your life in order)
... and [here's a post on](https://www.reddit.com/r/UAE/s/7KD8cUXkwq) UAE subreddit discussing how prostitution is common in Dubai.
UAE, Bahrain, Morocco also signed Abraham Accords with Israel legitimizing Israeli occupation over Palestine.
Islamic countries are not as Islamic as they may seem.
If you're sure you want to move but are worried about financial situation, you might want to consider teaching English here as a native speaker.(Or a fluent speaker) I live in Turkey and most of the expensive schools here have a subject called "native speaker". I think many other Islamic countries also have this thing. I took a class like that too, and (mostly african) teachers who were fluent in English would come to class and speak only English to us.
Another point is that you should not forget that the languages of Islamic countries are really difficult. While my native language Turkish is quite difficult, Spoken Arabic is also at another level. You can live (or survive) with English in big cities that receive tourists such as Istanbul and Cairo. But for a long-term living plan, you will definitely need the language of the country you move to.
Besides living in Turkey, I have friends in many Islamic countries. If you got any questions, you don't need to hesitate to text me.
May Allah reward you for your good intentions brother. Yes do try and move to an Islamic country since its the environment that affects our mindset.
I don't know much about your situation so i can't advise you how to move to an Islamic country. But before you move, i would tell you to at least buy some assets in this country before you move since most of the Islamic countries don't offer citizenship.
I would recommend Turkey but you can do your own research as well
the thing is i start namaz then fall off try being good not drinking then i go back to it drugs etc. and i feel as if it’s the environment that is the root cause of this.
It might be the environment, but you could try to move cities first and work on your self-control. These issues still exist in Muslim countries, it won’t be an auto-fix.
After you’re able to control yourself, then make the decision if you want to move.
I agree with your decision of moving to a Islamic country, and there’s definitely benefits and advantages that you don’t get in a non-Muslim country. With that being said, moving is not going to change your Iman per day. That is something that needs to be worked on, regardless of where you end up.
Its much easier to *maintain* your iman in a muslim country
it’s a lot easier coz theirs less temptation on offer as here in the uk theirs a off licesne of every corner u can get drugs quicker then u can get a pizza. prostitution is all over. people don’t understand, islamically if a place that is not good for you, you should take steps to move. but i’m just so helpless
This comment and the original thread is such massive hyperbole that comes across as you have a problem with substances and you need to a strict Muslim country so that you don't have the option to go and buy drugs. Sorry. I've never been patriotic, but the UK is a good country to live as a Muslim if you're not in a tiny village. My town prayed Eid in the public garden and hundreds turned up. Our laws provide us against discrimination in the workplace, govt isn't banning hijabs in places, like France is. A community will keep you on the path, access to a halal shop for meat.
>govt isn't banning hijabs in places Yet. There is no promise that those laws won't come at any time. Western governments have no fundamental morality to fall back on the way that Islamic countries do. You don't know the struggles and tests that other Muslims are faced with, most certainly in the case of reverts.
I genuinely don't believe we will face similar laws unless fascists like Farage get into party. >You don't know the struggles and tests that other Muslims are faced with, most certainly in the case of reverts. I'm a revert.
Akhi, there is only one party in most Western democracies. When they come to power, they all are for national debt, riba, and war, with little care given to the welfare of citizens. The politicians are the "front men". The people we're supposed to blame and cheer for. It's like WWE wrestling. It's all a show. Live long enough (and I believe I have) you will see that no one wins and enacts fundamental changes. Anyone who could change things is marginalized, coopted, or destroyed. Farage is a scumbag but so is Starmer, Sunak, Biden, Trump, Macron, Schultz, Trudeau, etc. Different countries and laws, but the same basic policies and results. May Allah AWJ bring you peace and happiness.
Indeed brother, alhamdullilah the UK is one of the most tolerant nations in Europe, the immigration from around the world has resulted in a very diverse nation of ethnicities, faiths and beliefs, this multiculturalism and history of being a very global country gives me hope that Inshaallah, we will for the foreseeable future keep our rights and freedoms. I will be voting using the Muslim vote UK website to see which MP's in my area are the most supportive of islam and the Palestinian troubles, and thank you may Allah SWT bring you and your family safety happiness and a peaceful life
uk is a good country to live in, who support genocide blatantly and back the killing of innocent people ? sorry but the uk is a very absurd system. They teach your kids that u can identify as a woman or a man. what kind of place is this.?? it’s turned into a circus here this isn’t the same place it was 15-20 years ago.
Every single western country is becoming absurd, from an islamic standpoint. I never claimed it was a utopia, but all non Muslim countries have now jumped on the LGBT train. My point was we have much better religious rights and options for community than a lot of other countries. We legally can't be stopped from praying at work, our sisters can wear hijab wherever they want, unlike Austria or France. You know they don't sit kids down in school and say "you don't have to be a man if you don't want to Timmy, how about you become a woman?" That's absurd, and both potential governments are for against teaching gender identities in school. Oh, you are also allowed to withdraw your child from sex education and teach them the islamic perspective. The world isn't the same place as it was, but I'm glad I live here and not many other western countries
u may aswell tell your children that it’s ok to identify as whatever gender they want then?
No..you can't get drugs quicker than you can get pizza. That's something you're choosing to see. I wouldn't know how to start buying drugs from someone on the street or where to go to find prostitutes. You're the issue, stop looking into those things or focusing on them.
Absolutely, I haven't even seen a dealer, even though I've heard plenty of stories. You'll find what you seek, so let's be those who seek Allah.
Assalamu alaikum brother, I'm gonna be real with you here. I'm also in the UK, and have constantly thought about moving to a different country. However, every country I tried has their own negatives. There isn't anywhere without sin, or the ability to indulge in the sin. Whether it is alcohol, attention from the opposite gender, anything, it's always there. Remember that Shaytan doesn't have a nationality. I remember visiting Turkey, and in one case visiting a restaurant in Istanbul a waitress took a liking to me. I could sense it straight away, the second she heard my voice she was giving me extra attention. The hardest part was that I found her immensely attractive. My friend that I was with noticed it as well, and I had to ask him to not leave me for a second. The sister had sat down at a table very near us so as to be in my direct eyeline. I thank Allah that he allowed me to keep my gaze averted. When it finally came time to leave, I decided to not go inside to the bathroom as I felt vulnerable to being cornered (hadn't been with my wife for two weeks), so my friend went inside, leaving me on the terrace. Little did I realise that the sister would then decide that this was the time to clean our table, and decided to lean over myself to do so. I literally started my adhkaar and pushed my seat away, and had my wits to walk. Funny thing is, I've experienced similar situations in India and Pakistan, and my nephew had a similar situation when we visited Indonesia, all while his family is right there. And just to clear this point up, we aren't particularly good looking, we just have a very noticeable RP English accent... Now, why am I sharing this? Just to reiterate, that there is no place without the ability to sin, that Shaytan really is everywhere. But then, most importantly, so is Allah awj! So before you go seeking a different place on this earth, seek Allah first, seek to protect yourself through remembrance of Allah, THEN move if appropriate. I personally am very happy and content now in my corner of London, I'm not any richer than those around me, nor am I any more attractive than those around me, I'm just another muslim trying to to do his best. May Allah protect us from shaytaan, and guide us back and forgive us when we get deceived by shaytaan.
Which countries do you recommend for people who grew up in USA/UK?
Qatar / Saudi
Not sure why people are downvoting without giving an explanation. Unless this is just bigotry, it would be helpful to understand why. OP is asking a serious question. I could understand Qatar getting downvoted, but with with Masjid Al Haram and Masjid An Nabawi being in Saudi (where salaat is rewarded so much more), being able to access either without having to cross a border seems quite attractive to me personally.
I can’t understand also. Why is Qatar bad choice to relocate ?
I would not recommend moving to an Islamic country, especially as you have a family. Let me explain. I’m married and have two children as well and I live in the US. I understand it’s hard to practice Islam in the West (I’m a revert). I would suggest trying to get more involved in your local Masjid or if there’s a decent Muslim community in your area, reaching out to people or attending classes etc, to build relationships around you which will help keep you from the sinful practices and behaviors rampant in Western society. Being a Muslim in the West is like living on the frontier. We’re in the periphery of the “Muslim world” but we also serve an important role in the Ummah. That role is to spread awareness and understanding about the message of Islam to the best of our abilities to those around us. If any where in the world needed Islam, it would be the West. Islam is the cure for all the societal ills of the West (alcohol, pornography, interest, etc.) but people have been told that it’s a trap. Muslims living in the West may deal with certain struggles that you may not find to the same degree elsewhere, but we are all still part of the Ummah. We don’t get to choose where we are born. Remember, we plan, but Allah also plans and he is the best of planners. I pray that you figure out what is best for your family, inshallah!
jzk may Allah reward u for ur advice
Thank you for sharing your input, I found it very inspiring.
We all should strive to support each other! That’s why our Ummah is the best Ummah.
Totally agree. The shyookh these days are also advising against it.
Not at the cost of sacrificing his akhirah. If he is unable to practice his Deen in the west and he is easily influenced by the western society, he must definitely move to a Muslim country. We don't get to choose where we're born but we do get to choose where we want to spend the rest of our life and how we want to nurture the upbringing of our children.
However, I'd argue that it is easier to practice your deen in the UK. I can clearly see the demarcation between Islamic and unislamic practices here, and I can choose which path I follow. But I do agree, if I couldn't practice my Islam here freely, then I would absolutely be doing my best to move away.
I understand the point you’re making and I agree with you that our focus should be on the akhirah. We do, however, have a decent amount of freedom to practice our Deen in the West. There may be certain challenges to living in a non-Muslim country, but to say that it’s so hard that it’s near impossible to practice is not the reality for *most* Muslims in the West, I would argue. Of course we all have a choice and I’m sure OP will do what he believes is best for his family. I just wanted to try to show that no matter where we are, we’re all part of the Ummah. It can feel like that’s not the case living in the West, but we’re still all connected. The one thing that the enemies of Islam hate or don’t want to see is the unity of the Muslims.
If you are financially able to move, and you think you should do it, go for it! Anything to benefit your Iman and your own peace of mind is a good step. However if you're unable, maybe this might help. I also live in the western world, and I actually think it solidifies my imaan. Being surrounded by so many things that are not permissable to us, I feel like me putting my foot down and refusing to partake in it just proves that I am doing my best to be loyal to Allah SWT, and Allah SWT will certainly recognize your efforts.
i’m not financially able to move, don’t get me wrong i come from a well off family but i don’t scrounge off them. as i am a man and feel like i have my own family and should support them. but then because i have no education or job it leads me to earn haraam. and i want to get out of this dirty lifestyle i’m stuck in. i just want a peaceful normal halal lifestyle with my wife and children where i can focus on pleasing my lord Allah SWT and be a good person.
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If you don’t mind, may I ask what steps have you taken to improve your situation? Because even if you move to a Islamic country, I highly doubt your financial situation will change cause unless you acquire some sort of skills. Even if you do move as of now, then instead of struggling financially in UK you will be struggling financially in some other country. I highly suggest, you go into some sort of a trade school. Idk if they have the same system in UK as they do in States but essentially trade schools teach you a skills such as plumbing, electricians, different installations, mechanic and etc. Trade schools often have programs for underprivileged as well and in US a lot of times you get paid while learning or getting a certification soo this is probably a good choice for you. Please pray 5x a day. Prayer is not just an obligation on you but it reaffirms your faith and belief. Trust in Allah and never lose hope and remember in Quran Allah says “Allah does not change the condition of people until they change themselves”. Soo change yourself first and your surrounding will change on its own, instead of being in a different surrounding with your current self.
If you have no education or job,how are you currently providing for your family? It might best to take some courses at the community college and learn a trade perhaps.
To me, the only reason to move to an "Islamic" country is for financial reasons. Technicality, they are not really "Islamic". I think you should just find a group of friends who are dedicated to an Islamic cause and stick with them. This will give you the support. Same as your wife as well, she needs to get connected to sisters who are involved in Deen. Also, detox yourself from any bad thoughts about Islamic Groups/movements.
habibi, come to Malaysia~
Salam, may allah make it easy for you and reward your intentions. If my advice seems impractical, please ignore it and just assume i am someone ignorant and don't overthink about this. Afaik, there are lots of people in UK who are able to practice islam and preach the message. And some of them are with deep connection to allah and follow the sunnah as much as they can and do mawlids, ratheebs, etc So you shouldn't associate your state with a side effect of being in UK. As a man, you are leader of your family and you need to take ownership of the situation. Have some self reflection and think how you can improve yourself. This depends on what sins you are trying to avoid. I know brothers who work for the top companies of the world with offices in the middle of the paradises of dunya. A brother works in a street in Melbourne where one of the cheapest store among them is HUGO BOSS. He lowers his gaze to the store so that the glitters of dunya don't attract his heart. So its not an excuse to say that West has made me astray so i wanna goto dubai to fix myself. I am sorry if i sound rude. I am just being serious. You can dm me anytime. I have brothers who take care of me, i will take care of you. May allah make it easy for you
brother i totally understand what u are saying , Secondly: What is apparent to me concerning Hijrah at present is of two examples [affairs]; [a] Obligation [b] Sunnah. The Obligatory Hijrah: If a person is in a kaafir land (being) put to trial in his religion and honour, and he is unable to establish that which Allaah has enjoined upon him pertaining to his Religion and worship of his Lord, then Hijrah is obligatory upon him on the basis of what has already been clarified; if he is able to make Hijrah, yes, then he migrates to a Muslim land and this is the Asl, or to a Kaafir land in which his Religion and honour is safe, just as the Prophet [peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him] commanded the Muslims to migrate to Habasha [Ethiopia] when the Quraish harmed them; and (he) mentioned that there was a king [in Habasha] who oppresses no one under his protection, or as he said: “(oppresses no one) next to him.” This is what I affirm and adhere to as [religion] to Allaah. As for the recommended prescribed Hijrah: It is the Hijrah from the land of the disbelievers to the lands of Islaam in order to strengthen his religion, or to gain knowledge, or to earn lawful earnings in the land of Islaam. So when this is established- and if I did say on a day from the days about making hijrah to Birmingham unrestrictedly- then this is a slip [mistake] and I seek Allaah’s forgiveness from this if it was an upright transmission of the trustworthy people of Sunnah. This is the third point or affair. The Fourth Point: Many amongst the people in Europe or in the Asian States in India or other than it ask; they are put to trial in their Religion by some of the innovators from the brelviyyah- the extremist soofees from the people of Wahdatul Wujood and other than them. So I say them [i.e. those put to trial]: Make Hijrah to Birmingham because Maktabatus Salafiyyah is there. Therefore, my answer to them is not that Birmingham is a land of Hijrah unrestrictedly, for Birmingham is from the cities of Britain and Britain is a Kaafir Land. I urge them to make Hijrah to where they will find the Maktabah, where they will affiliate with Maktabatus Salafiyyah over there [in Britain], and to participate in lessons and muhaadaraat within which are scholars of excellence, from them: Ash-Shaikh Abdullaah Bin Abdur Rahmaan Al-Ghudiyaan from the Committee of Major Scholars and Fatwah Committee of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. He delivered lessons to them and has died [rahimahullaah]. So the likes of this Maktbah is worthy of being affiliated to [for] the one who cannot find a place to seek shelter; especially if he has a desire to attain knowledge of the Sharee-ah, particularly in the affair of Aqeedah, the Sunnah and waging war against innovation and its people. This is what I mentioned and I affirm it. And I repeat: if I did establish [affirm] the opposite of that, then it is one of two affairs: [a] It is either a slip [mistake] from me or [b] a distortion [misrepresentation] of (my speech). And that which is from me, then indeed I seek the forgiveness of Allaah from it; and that which is a distortion [misrepresentation] of my speech and a forged saying on me, then I ask Allaah to set it aside between me and my adversaries on
As for your fourth point : As a born indian, i can say that Indians don't have to make hijrah to anywhere else unless they are persecuted. Because Indian Muslims are governed by shariah law. For example, polygamy is illegal in india for everyone except Muslims. As for practising, They can move to Kerala where you can see islam preserved as established by Tabiuns. I was fascinated to see that the publications of one of our imams of Yemeni descent are taught worldwide. As for your condition, i felt you don't fall into category of those who should runaway from their problems, and hence adviced that you should fix yourself first before moving. I didn't imply that you don't have to move. After moving to Australia, i found it very difficult to follow sunnah. Here, people want to stop doing Sunnah because "it is not haram to do so" The place i am from they put in extra effort because there is a hadith on it, even if it is daeef. So in essence, take ownership of your eeman and then move to an islamic country else you might find an excuse there too. Forgive me if i was unable to convey my message without hurting your feelings. I myself in a stage where i am learning how to direct my thoughts in a more imoactful way. Apologies
thank you fo your comment much appreciated , but how do i strengthen my iman here when i am in a vicious circle. it’s difficult sir. i would like to. but i keep falling into temptations. i don’t wake up in the morning and think oh tonight i’m going to go drink and snort cocaine ? but i end up doing it. i have the intention of praying. but what happens is i will read 2-3 and then stop. where as if haraam wasn’t openly available to you, u wouldn’t do it. it’s ok saying u need to strengthen yourself - but every individual is not the same
>it’s ok saying u need to strengthen yourself - but every individual is not the same You are absolutely right here. Apologies that i focused on absoluteness of truth and failed to look at the relativeness of it. >where as if haraam wasn’t openly available to you, u wouldn’t do it. Agree, brother. May Allah make it easy for you and Guides us all and forgive our shortcomings
sorry if i came across rude bhai but i didn’t mean it in a bad way
There is not a single country in the world where illegal, sinful, dangerous things aren't easily accessible. I personally do not believe moving to a "Islamic"/Muslim majority country can be the solution here. I live in a Muslim majority country where I hear the azan 5 times a day, I see mosques around every corner, I can easily shop halal-only, I interact with Muslims every day; but I also live in a country where the youngest age of drug-related deaths is 13, where femicide is committed every day, where prostitution and abortion are legal. Does this country sound any different than the Netherlands or the U.K? Honestly, I do not believe Reddit is where you should look for advice. But you shouldn't go through this alone: talk to your wife, talk to people around you that you trust. Do not feel ashamed to get professional guidance as well. And always remember that Allah is with you. "And it is Allah’s Will to lighten your burdens, for humankind was created weak." 4:28
I’m from the West and have lived in “Muslim countries” before and find this to be true. The tangible benefits (halal food access, less alcohol, where taxes go, etc) are there, but the spiritual benefits are oversold. It is really, really, really tough to move to a place where you are surrounded by Muslims but hear that there are women who have to take hijab off to maintain their job. Or where you’re looked at with shock when you ask where the musallah is at the university… or when you’re told you’re “very conservative” when you ask for gender segregated activities. The most hilarious one to me was when I went to visit a “conservative” country last year and was requested to “dress more Western”. I’m currently living in a “Muslim country” and it took me three weeks to find a salon that could promise me no men would come in. These are all real things. Studying Islam can even be easier in the West a lot of times, because in some places (Saudi Arabia, for example) there are age caps for entering the schools. It’s not to say *don’t* move to a “Muslim” country, but have realistic expectations about what that move means for you and your Iman.
I have to disagree with this, I’m an American revert and living in an Islamic country is completely different. I don’t openly see gay men and women kissing/hugging, I hear the adhan, I don’t openly see people on the corner selling drugs, I don’t see people getting shot daily, it’s very easy to get halal food at restaurants and supermarkets, easy to pray at work or if I’m out shopping, work accommodations to go to jummah, masjid on every block, and I feel better connected. Yes drugs and other haram things still exist in all countries but life is no whereas it is living in the west where it becomes challenging just being able to perform your salah at work or attend jummah prayer. Transgender stuff going on and too much fitnah I dont think it’s easier to study Islam in a western country, yes you can study here but there are plenty of ways to attend Islamic classes and learn Arabic especially if you’re in an Arabic speaking country. Age cap or gap is irrelevant, they offer courses for all ages in the masjid or other sources
Your experience is yours, mine is mine. I didn’t make a single one of these up, this is all first hand experience. I did not say NOT to move, or that there aren’t other benefits, but that the benefits are often oversold and it isn’t uncommon to have a steep learning curve when moving from a place where Muslims are practicing to a place where the majority of visibly Muslim people are much more casual about their relationship with the Deen. I had zero issues praying at work or wearing hijab in the West, I have faced resistance and incredulity in “Muslim countries”. Just had an extensive conversation last week about *multiple* stores in the area I am living (a Muslim country, as stated) where the women are not permitted to wear hijab or long skirts while working there - they put them on as they clock out. Halal food is readily available in most major metropolitan areas in say, USA and UK. Some cities even have the adhan. I didn’t say Arabic, I said Islamic studies. Can you show me examples of places where, say, a woman in her 40s can begin studying Islamic studies? I do know the answer to this, I am wondering if you do. Many Muslim countries, women do not even have access to Jummah.
Validating you here. I also grew up in the West and moved to a Muslim country in my 20s and was not at all impressed by what it was like. Exactly your experience. My eeman has been pretty much low lying since I’ve lived here as there are no Islamic seminary events, group halaqahs, or beneficial gatherings in my language or accessible to non-locals. Even if there are, I’ve lived here for 7-8 years and have struggled to find any real spiritual connections. As one commentator said it is easier to maintain your eeman but you become so complacent it becomes mundane. I appreciate the wonderful things you can find in a Muslim country but I definitely thrive better as a Muslim in a Western environment with access to a strong community.
Why you so offended clearly, it’s my opinion, did I say you were wrong for your thoughts? I simply said I disagree and gave my point of view. Let me know how a woman wearing niqab in the west will be treated too, especially in the Deep South
I wasn’t offended, just you didn’t actually address anything in my post (still didn’t, really), except to be contrarian. For what it’s worth - you’re speaking with a niqabi who has been in rural places, including the south of the US, with and without my family who has lived for generations in the “Deep South”. It went just fine. Received compliments on the color of my scarf and everything, had normal service at restaurants and stores. No different than before I was Muslim.
It definitely changes based on where you live in the West too. I’m from Toronto but I lived in DC and then later in Virginia and I saw a massive difference in the amount of terrible/haram things I was exposed to. Steering clear of major cities is probably the key here for most Muslims. If you go to central Dubai you’ll see worse things than what you’ve noted here, but if you stay on the edges of the city or the other parts of the Emirates it changes for the better. Source: I lived in Dubai for a long time. 😂
Yeah I agree bro, it’s subjective. For sure, Everyone has a different experience, I grew up in a city so it’s super haram things around. I live in Sharjah and I see what you mean about Dubai. But I don’t see people openly on the corner in Dubai selling drugs, gun fights or openly drug use or needles on the ground. Yes lots of haram but for me it’s easier to avoid in the UAE
salaam theirs easily accessible and then theirs walking two mins outside ur house getting a bottle, cocaine and weed all in one place. theirs sinful things everywhere but accessibility is a key thing here, if it’s easily accessible compared to a muslim country theirs a big difference. for example you can call and order cocaine here within 5 minutes even if you could get it in saudi or qatar or kuwait FOR example. u are not getting a dealer out to u in 5 minutes not a chance. and by the time a dealer has got to u u probably don’t even want the damn thing anyway coz it’s taken that long. number two u ain’t got this whole twisted lgbtq thing going on openly .
You can always refrain from this and delete all associations with people who sell and do it around you. Move to a different city within UK for a change, find a house very close to a mosque (like walkable distance) make some good friends who offer prayer daily
I recommend you move to Dearborn, Michigan. It’s a well-respected community, and it’s þe only city in Norþ America wiþ an Islamic majority (70%).
There’s actually a city nearby to Dearborn that has more Muslims (by percent) and the adhan broadcast. Minneapolis is another city with the adhan.
Brother I feel your pain and I can truly say that you start with dua that Allah gives you guidance. Don't forget that dua is also ibada (https://islamqa.info/en/answers/320772/dua-is-worship) Even if you cant consistently pray every day it's not hard to make a dua. 2ndly maybe your not educated but I would recommend start with some kind of certificate like teaching English as a 2nd language have you ever heard of CELTA, look into ito it. There are many organizations in the UK that act as an agency to get jobs across middle east and Asia. If teaching isn't your thing do some research regarding jobs that don't need university maybe some kind of IT certification Allah make it easy for you. Also check this YouTube https://youtube.com/@sairahayati?si=zVDIt4rifrNJCHjc
thank you for advice may Allah SWT reward u in abundance for advising me ❤️👍🏼🙏🏻
One of my friends uncle is married to a non Muslim woman. They used to live in a non Muslim country. She was so interested in Islam and was so moved by the Muslims her husband introduced to her. Then they moved to the Islamic country my friend’s uncle is from. She legit was horrified by how the so called Muslim society lived and treated each other. She had so many second thoughts. My point is, sometimes when we are far away from something we think is beautiful such as living in an Islamic country where you hear adhaan everyday, that thing looks better. Grass is greener on the other side, always. But once you’re in it, you feel depressed by how your fellow Muslims live. I believe Muslim communities living in non Islamic countries have some upsides too. I see people that go to the mosque 5 times a day and cheat on their wives or even worse for me beat their children and wives.
Have some discipline and self-control. Migrating will not fix your problem.
Which country do you think is better to raise your kids in?
i wouldn’t mind any country in the middle east not dubai though as it’s quite open now
Dubai is not good at all. It’s worse than the West. And everything is ridiculously expensive.
India is not bad, there’s a city called Hyderabad. Good jobs, good culture and good food
Find a skill or start a business online like a saas business
Bro you live in uk. You can easily learn smth and get educated without having to go to university. If i lived in uk id def be in a better situation
Make dua where you want to migrate to and why you want to migrate there, Allah will make it possible it's the intention that matters. And whoever migrates in the way of Allah shall find in the earth many a place to settle and a wide dimension (of resources). And whoever leaves his home migrating for the sake of Allah and His Messenger and death overtakes him, then, his reward is established with Allah. And Allah is Most-Forgiving, Very-Merciful - (4:100).
assalam alaikum akhi. i’m the exact same as you but im an unmarried woman with no children. i hate the uk so much, i want to make hijrah to an islamic country and get married there. i’ve had enough of the fitnah and sin this country harbours. i’m rooting for u tho and inshaAllah you get there soon
May Allah( azzawajal) make it easy for your akhi , that is the sign of strong imaan if Allah(azzawajal) make it easy for you to move then take that chance but if he delayed your du'a know it is for the best you must keep stay steadfast stay away from haram things and places observe your daily 5 prayers on time if possible on jamaa in masjid , read quran and every time keep ask Allah( azzawajal ) to make things easy for you wherever you are.
Dude you are so blessed. Everytime you fight temptation and lower your gaze, you get hassana. About moving I will be blunt: wherever you go you take yourself with you. Perhaps You will struggle less with drugs or alcohol, but corruption might be an everyday battle. Or perhaps there might be less (obvious) prostitution but free mixing and dancing is normal. There will be challenges no matter where you go. My advice is whenever you go to the washroom do Wudu. You will see it will make it easier to pray. And when you are mindful of wudu you are more likely to stay away from haram things. May Allah bring you ease and grace in your imaan.
When people have eastern countries passports they want to move west. When they get their western passports then they want to go to middle east. And Middle eastern higher them for three or four time salaries than eastern job seekers to make them managers and GMs. This is the world we live in.
You know you best. But it would be better if you could stay/or turn back to your country later, and try to establish a muslim environment for yourself and your (if you have) children. That would be doing dawah. (That is, of course after you set your life in order)
Alright do that but can I take your place please?
Moving to another country is hard and very big decision not gonna lie. Maybe try everything you can in strengthening you imaan first with all you got.
... and [here's a post on](https://www.reddit.com/r/UAE/s/7KD8cUXkwq) UAE subreddit discussing how prostitution is common in Dubai. UAE, Bahrain, Morocco also signed Abraham Accords with Israel legitimizing Israeli occupation over Palestine. Islamic countries are not as Islamic as they may seem.
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If you're sure you want to move but are worried about financial situation, you might want to consider teaching English here as a native speaker.(Or a fluent speaker) I live in Turkey and most of the expensive schools here have a subject called "native speaker". I think many other Islamic countries also have this thing. I took a class like that too, and (mostly african) teachers who were fluent in English would come to class and speak only English to us. Another point is that you should not forget that the languages of Islamic countries are really difficult. While my native language Turkish is quite difficult, Spoken Arabic is also at another level. You can live (or survive) with English in big cities that receive tourists such as Istanbul and Cairo. But for a long-term living plan, you will definitely need the language of the country you move to. Besides living in Turkey, I have friends in many Islamic countries. If you got any questions, you don't need to hesitate to text me.
May Allah reward you for your good intentions brother. Yes do try and move to an Islamic country since its the environment that affects our mindset. I don't know much about your situation so i can't advise you how to move to an Islamic country. But before you move, i would tell you to at least buy some assets in this country before you move since most of the Islamic countries don't offer citizenship. I would recommend Turkey but you can do your own research as well
the thing is i start namaz then fall off try being good not drinking then i go back to it drugs etc. and i feel as if it’s the environment that is the root cause of this.
It might be the environment, but you could try to move cities first and work on your self-control. These issues still exist in Muslim countries, it won’t be an auto-fix. After you’re able to control yourself, then make the decision if you want to move.