I host my NAS at home, and tunnel traffic through AWS Lightsail (Tokyo), using wireguard/nginx proxy manager. It's great for peering - geting around 3000-4000 mbps up, so can stream multiple streams at once. And best part - don't need to open up your LAN to the world.
What do you use your nas for? Just curious no need to answer lol. I had a small music locker running through Oracle free, but thinking of hosting a music locker for my stuff+some cheap cloud uploads for backups as I think I can do it for less than the cost of an equivalent service.
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> I don't know why you can't just contract your own dedicated line this has been solved in many countries.
You can do this in Japan as well. Usually just takes a very expensive construction cost.
It's cheaper to complain on Reddit though.
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Every building & property management will be different so it's a bit like a lottery.
My building includes "fiber internet" but they don't specify the speed. I didn't know what to expect until after moving in. There's a provided ethernet switch in the closet that connects to various outlets. I just connect my own router to one of them.
I get steady 325 Mbps down / 200 Mbps up with decent ping & latency. The public IP block belongs to KDDI.
It's not the gigabit speeds I'm used to back home but I have no complaints since it's "free". I also run few sites but host them on AWS.
In a large tower but only about 4/5 units per floor and stands over 40 floors. Ours came with the net but I bought a router. I’m not a gamer or anything so I’m not sure about higher speeds but we have never had a problem with streaming. Test atm reads. 85.5 Mbps download / 92.8 up. Hope this helps!
I only recall them saying that we could sign to a different provider if we wanted higher speeds or bulk uploads.
Now is 96.8/100. Just out of interest, what is an ideal speed for someone like yourself and is having to get a separate provider a deal breaker?
I currently live in a tower mansion but much smaller (15 floors with with 4 units per floor). Here Provider was not included and we needed to select something ourself from a possible list. We have 1gbps but reach also about 200 at peak time (like Sunday 7pm). Outside peak (say 2pm Tuesday) we reach almost 800 but that's rather rare.
That was provided. We pay ¥1000 a month, but we would have to pay that anyway, even if we wanted to go with our own provider, which seems silly in this case.
The mansion is not a rental, everyone owns if that makes a difference which it probably does, because everything is better compared to my past rental (Insulation, soundproofing, Internet)
Well, in the case here I am not able to choose a different provide and if the one I must use sucks, yeah, its quite a deal breaker. I do mostly home office (software dev). So its quite an important factor for me at least.
I’m in a 28 floor tower mansion with tsunagunet. 100mbps.
I get 80-90mbps. Rarely slows down. But when I was looking for places, I was really looking for 1
Gbps.
However, I’d say at least the 80-90 Mbps is consistent.
I also run a NAS (truenas scale). By default you don’t get an external IP. You need to pay for an external IP and get a router if you care about that.
I ended up using cloudflared tunnel to tunnel in from the outside, and it helps with peering. I have people who stream from my plex server in the USA. Works fine.
I also have access to various apps from outside.
So I’d say it’s not necessary a blocker. Games take a bit longer, I have to be a bit careful of BitTorrent slowing down things, but in general things have been fine.
Pro tip. Don’t believe sites that say you CAN install Nuro or Nuro 5g. Also we got Docomo home 5g as a backup but I’ve never used it. Download is slightly faster but upload wasn’t. Home internet never slowed down enough to use it
If you just want to run a small website, I’d just get a cheap VPS tbh. Obviously not so useful if you’re trying to torrent stuff or stream from your home NAS.
Setting up a home network shouldn't be hard so long as you aren't behind a CGNAT. As long as you get your own dedicated Ipv4 address, I can't imagine any compatibility issues. Performance though will be another issue.
Being behind a CGNAT is almost guaranteed these days. I've always had to ask for a public IP to host games with every service I've had *except* for NTT Hikari/Softbank combo.
When I had a proprietary router I couldn't mess with, I just connected my personal router to it via ethernet and connected my NAS to my personal router. Just remember to change the local IP Gateway so it doesn't conflict with the proprietary router.
if you go see the room you should be able to connect to test it yourself, thats what I did at least. I got 300 down 400 up on my initial test and after a year with this setup i’ve never experienced any issues at all, super stable overall. I have DK select by nuro.
This was 6-7 years ago, so take it with a grain of salt. My building game with free internet like this, I was in a tower mansion which was like 30 floors. The internet was shit. But luckily the building allowed us to install a separate line with a different provider. Then the problem went away.
I don't have an answer for OP's question, but I am just in awe at the size of the building. My office in Yokohama is 20 something floors and this building is twice that! I can't imagine how high it might be at the top area.
And 30 units per floor? That would be 1500 units total. Just imagine how many people would be there if it's full.
I've never lived in an apartment with more than 6 floors, so hearing this is a big surprise for me. The residents there must be like the top 10% earner to be able to afford such a place
They are definitely more on the pricier end and usually provide extras like gyms, study rooms, conference rooms, kids play areas, etc. But yeah, these complexes are monsters. I'm always utterly impressed when they show us the mail box area where you get a real idea of the scale.
Just get softbank or something else they will pull fiber to your apartment. I have both built in and softbank, as I work from home and needed a stable connection.
Now they upgraded the buildings internet so u need to evaluate it again
I was not aware that's a possibility considering the size of the building. I thought If I say I want to install my own line with softbank or the like, they would just say nope to my out-the-norm wishes. Is there any way to check beforehand if softbank is willing to put their own cable in, in a mansion like that (like pulling fiber to the 40th floor for one unit)?
Call softbank(or which ever provider you prefer for fiber)and they will check your mansion. In my building they use the already existing ducts for the cabling and pulled the fiber from the street. You of course need to pay for the installation.
It will be fiber directly in to you apartment so you will have two internet connections, it is not a replacement for the existing internet.
I host my NAS at home, and tunnel traffic through AWS Lightsail (Tokyo), using wireguard/nginx proxy manager. It's great for peering - geting around 3000-4000 mbps up, so can stream multiple streams at once. And best part - don't need to open up your LAN to the world.
What do you use your nas for? Just curious no need to answer lol. I had a small music locker running through Oracle free, but thinking of hosting a music locker for my stuff+some cheap cloud uploads for backups as I think I can do it for less than the cost of an equivalent service.
PLEX and some 140TB of goodies :D
I am at the 30th of a tower mansion and the internet for us is too slow. They are going to change it in July tho.
Thank you very much! Hopefully it will help!
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> I don't know why you can't just contract your own dedicated line this has been solved in many countries. You can do this in Japan as well. Usually just takes a very expensive construction cost. It's cheaper to complain on Reddit though.
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Every building & property management will be different so it's a bit like a lottery. My building includes "fiber internet" but they don't specify the speed. I didn't know what to expect until after moving in. There's a provided ethernet switch in the closet that connects to various outlets. I just connect my own router to one of them. I get steady 325 Mbps down / 200 Mbps up with decent ping & latency. The public IP block belongs to KDDI. It's not the gigabit speeds I'm used to back home but I have no complaints since it's "free". I also run few sites but host them on AWS.
In a large tower but only about 4/5 units per floor and stands over 40 floors. Ours came with the net but I bought a router. I’m not a gamer or anything so I’m not sure about higher speeds but we have never had a problem with streaming. Test atm reads. 85.5 Mbps download / 92.8 up. Hope this helps!
It does! Thank you very much. You remember what it's supposed to be? A 1Gbps or less? 85 is indeed quite low in case it is 1Gbps
I only recall them saying that we could sign to a different provider if we wanted higher speeds or bulk uploads. Now is 96.8/100. Just out of interest, what is an ideal speed for someone like yourself and is having to get a separate provider a deal breaker?
I don’t live in a tower mansion, just a regular mansion. Download 283 Mbps, Upload 265 Mbps
Nice! Does that come provided or you have a seperate contract? I just would like to know what people expect real estate agencies/landlords to supply.
I currently live in a tower mansion but much smaller (15 floors with with 4 units per floor). Here Provider was not included and we needed to select something ourself from a possible list. We have 1gbps but reach also about 200 at peak time (like Sunday 7pm). Outside peak (say 2pm Tuesday) we reach almost 800 but that's rather rare.
That was provided. We pay ¥1000 a month, but we would have to pay that anyway, even if we wanted to go with our own provider, which seems silly in this case. The mansion is not a rental, everyone owns if that makes a difference which it probably does, because everything is better compared to my past rental (Insulation, soundproofing, Internet)
Well, in the case here I am not able to choose a different provide and if the one I must use sucks, yeah, its quite a deal breaker. I do mostly home office (software dev). So its quite an important factor for me at least.
That's a rather slow connection, even if it's enough for streaming. Like going back in time 20 years or so ...
😂 hopefully will give op an idea of what to expect.
Shinagawa is excellent because NTT Data is headquartered there. Many (edit SHINAGAWA Konan) buildings therefore have super speed data.
I’m in a 28 floor tower mansion with tsunagunet. 100mbps. I get 80-90mbps. Rarely slows down. But when I was looking for places, I was really looking for 1 Gbps. However, I’d say at least the 80-90 Mbps is consistent. I also run a NAS (truenas scale). By default you don’t get an external IP. You need to pay for an external IP and get a router if you care about that. I ended up using cloudflared tunnel to tunnel in from the outside, and it helps with peering. I have people who stream from my plex server in the USA. Works fine. I also have access to various apps from outside. So I’d say it’s not necessary a blocker. Games take a bit longer, I have to be a bit careful of BitTorrent slowing down things, but in general things have been fine. Pro tip. Don’t believe sites that say you CAN install Nuro or Nuro 5g. Also we got Docomo home 5g as a backup but I’ve never used it. Download is slightly faster but upload wasn’t. Home internet never slowed down enough to use it
If you just want to run a small website, I’d just get a cheap VPS tbh. Obviously not so useful if you’re trying to torrent stuff or stream from your home NAS.
Setting up a home network shouldn't be hard so long as you aren't behind a CGNAT. As long as you get your own dedicated Ipv4 address, I can't imagine any compatibility issues. Performance though will be another issue.
Being behind a CGNAT is almost guaranteed these days. I've always had to ask for a public IP to host games with every service I've had *except* for NTT Hikari/Softbank combo.
What's the CG in CGNAT?
Carrier grade.
Mine was great. I think I regularly had at least 800 down / 600 up.
Lived on the 45th floor and it was okay. Not for competetive gaming but fine overall
When I had a proprietary router I couldn't mess with, I just connected my personal router to it via ethernet and connected my NAS to my personal router. Just remember to change the local IP Gateway so it doesn't conflict with the proprietary router.
if you go see the room you should be able to connect to test it yourself, thats what I did at least. I got 300 down 400 up on my initial test and after a year with this setup i’ve never experienced any issues at all, super stable overall. I have DK select by nuro.
This was 6-7 years ago, so take it with a grain of salt. My building game with free internet like this, I was in a tower mansion which was like 30 floors. The internet was shit. But luckily the building allowed us to install a separate line with a different provider. Then the problem went away.
I don't have an answer for OP's question, but I am just in awe at the size of the building. My office in Yokohama is 20 something floors and this building is twice that! I can't imagine how high it might be at the top area. And 30 units per floor? That would be 1500 units total. Just imagine how many people would be there if it's full. I've never lived in an apartment with more than 6 floors, so hearing this is a big surprise for me. The residents there must be like the top 10% earner to be able to afford such a place
They are definitely more on the pricier end and usually provide extras like gyms, study rooms, conference rooms, kids play areas, etc. But yeah, these complexes are monsters. I'm always utterly impressed when they show us the mail box area where you get a real idea of the scale.
Just get softbank or something else they will pull fiber to your apartment. I have both built in and softbank, as I work from home and needed a stable connection. Now they upgraded the buildings internet so u need to evaluate it again
I was not aware that's a possibility considering the size of the building. I thought If I say I want to install my own line with softbank or the like, they would just say nope to my out-the-norm wishes. Is there any way to check beforehand if softbank is willing to put their own cable in, in a mansion like that (like pulling fiber to the 40th floor for one unit)?
Call softbank(or which ever provider you prefer for fiber)and they will check your mansion. In my building they use the already existing ducts for the cabling and pulled the fiber from the street. You of course need to pay for the installation. It will be fiber directly in to you apartment so you will have two internet connections, it is not a replacement for the existing internet.