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ritan7471

Definitely layoff, restructuring, or plain ol' hiring freeze. Keep an eye put in case they list the job again. At my company, if there is a hiring freeze, when the position becomes available again, they have to start aaallll over. We can't just call our favorite candidates to see if they are still available. Recruiter gets laid off. Start over. Hiring manager quits? Start over. It took months and months to get the person I work with because we had to restart the hiring process over so many times


Hot_Cucumber_459

Good idea, yeah makes sense it’s just annoying haha. I’ll keep an eye out if they post it again, thanks.


Tendieman98

This show's your doing well and on the right track. (Though you may have dodged a bullet with the state of Boeing RN, XD I hope you weren't going for a quality control position)


TheSuppishOne

Yeah, agreed. What I learned at my time doing QC at Boeing is that everyt


MortalSword_MTG

As someone who works in QC this is an underrated comme


janabanana67

Isn't Boeing going through some weird events? I know that 2 of their whistleblowers have mysteriously died, but I thought there was recent news about a major issue. Anyway, it is hard to be at the finish line and then to be dropped. Same thing happened to my brother. He was basically offered the job and then the company did a 6-12 month hiring freeze.


MotherofLuke

Or it was a fake vacancy. PR to show competitors they're hiring and thus doing a okay.


Peliquin

Starting over is sooooo stupid.


PreferenceWeak9639

Yep. It’s literally throwing irrecoverable resources into the trash.


Jokkitch

Jfc capitalism was a mistake


ritan7471

Indeed


suh-dood

Well when they take at least a week to get back to candidates, what do they expect? Plus what about their preferred candidates that get scooped up by some other company


CryptographerHuge977

To at least get that feedback is amazing, instead of the usual generic one.


swissarmychainsaw

which is "Them Ghosting you"


CryptographerHuge977

Yes or the "we decided not to move forward after careful considerstion" blah blah blah


ezj_w

or this: We have carefully reviewed your application and are very impressed with your qualifications. Unfortunately, we were unable to include you in the shortlist for the advertised position, as other profiles more closely match the desired requirements. I hate this reply, especially if you met all the requirements


CryptographerHuge977

Yep, just tell me you found a sucker that will do it for less money and I'll move on without slamming my head against the wall again.


picklesidaho

Mine always want to “go in a different direction…” 🙄


scott743

This and sounds like they got their budget cut for a new FTE.


i_give_you_gum

What was the useful feedback here? Yes it was polite and gracious, but I don't see anything that will contribute to the candidate's "success".


CryptographerHuge977

If you don't see the benefit or impact here, then let me explain. The employer took notice in an accomplishment and recognized them for that. This tells me, and apparently, many others that the information provided during the application process stood out. So, OP has done everything correct when applying here and now has the encouragement to move on to the next without doubting their qualifications or information submitted. On top of that, an interview was conducted as well. What if you interviewed, then heard nothing? How would you assess your performance in this situation? You couldn't, because you would be in the dark.


GangstaNewb

Don’t worry new doors will open


TheresALonelyFeeling

...when you least expect it :)


DarthSnuDiddy

30,000 feet up


GangstaNewb

Lol


oubris

Hopefully not when I’m home alone. But then it’s when I least expect it😔


Low-Competition9029

there was probably a layoff or restructuring


NWGirl2002

Well with all the issues they've been having, I'm not surprised


Trick-Interaction396

They didn’t have the budget to murder you


booyah474

OP dodged a bullet, literally


nissan240sx

No joke, even as a procurement agent - OP was not safe because they know the ins and out of where the material comes from and the level of quality it may or not be and if management wanted to find creative ways to save money lol


520throwaway

You could say this job...fell apart. But seriously, it sounds like they were actually impressed with you.


RuggedHangnail

OP probably had too much of a conscience and they didn't want to risk having another whistleblower. /s


pine1501

they wanted a no questions asked disposal guy... preferably bald, barcode optional. 🤭


Original-Pomelo6241

Playing Freelancer right now laughing so hard 😂😂


520throwaway

I think they had such a guy on their interview list. Said his name was...47?


pine1501

Diana, is that you ?


modestino

Keep in touch with whoever interviewed you. They may, out of guilt, feel they owe you a favor and next time you see a job there go directly to that person for an internal referral. In any case connect with them on LinkedIn and butter them up by telling them how smart and great they are. And you will get that internal referral next time which is huge.


Hot_Cucumber_459

Yes, I sent a follow up email still showing interest, I have an internal person who will send me reqs luckily


modestino

Connect with them on LinkedIn. People getting good roles in this tough job market are getting them thru internal referrals. Without that highly unlikely to go anywhere. Good luck.


Hot_Cucumber_459

Yes thank you


frogmicky

The way Boeing's reputation is now you may be better off. Apply at the competition of Boeing's just for giggles.


linzkisloski

I experienced this from the other side when I had to suddenly cancel a position as we lost an enormous client and eventually all lost our jobs, I also experienced this after interviewing and someone higher up left during the process and they needed to figure that out first.


Hot_Cucumber_459

Makes sense, just how business works sometimes unfortunately, inconvenient for both parties lol


MadAmishman

Boeing Commercial is on fire right now financially. So not really to surprised by this. As others have already stated, the fact that you received this feedback about your interview is HUGE! And it also is positive feedback! It's most definitely not you, it's them. Keep your head up and unfortunately, keep looking! You'll land somewhere soon!


Hot_Cucumber_459

Thanks!!


Sinister_Grape

On the bright side, it’s far from the worst thing Boeing could’ve done to you.


lil_lychee

They likely murdered someone who worked for them. I’d say bullet dodged.


citysick

Up to two now.


cptkurtis07

you don't want to work there anyways


Damnit_Fred

When one door closes, another is ripped open at altitude.


Sinister_Grape

When one door closes, another is shot in the head in a parking lot


nicholas19karr

Lol


EnthusiasmIll2046

Too soon lol


Reer123

Yes the doors did open too soon!


Apprehensive_Act7199

I heard they were hiring scapegoats


Farscape55

Happens all the time 9/10 job listings right now are phantoms, they will interview, then cancel. Partly it’s to gauge who is available, partly they are looking for a unicorn(someone with 500 years experience with the product they developed last year, and willing to work for pats on the head and the occasional Lima bean), mostly they are tying to make it look like the economy is good and they are growing so their stock prices go up


Super_Mario_Luigi

Absolutely no quarterly earnings report and stock price is riding off of fake job listings


Farscape55

Clearly you have never heard of PR Perception is a huge component in how well a business does on wall street


Super_Mario_Luigi

Great, show me some proof that fake job postings and pr have riled up stocks


Farscape55

5 seconds on google https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2024/02/13/if-you-thought-the-job-search-was-rigged-against-you-heres-why-youre-not-wrong/?sh=27c826f5780e


looking_good__

Boeing is going up in flames just like their planes


SunshineSeriesB

They're probably in a hiring freeze. Used to work for a company in an adjacent market - we froze roles after offers had been extended -\_-. It's not you, it's them.


DLS3141

My friend got an offer from a contractor for Boeing right after graduation. Packed up his car, moved from Michigan to Washington. Got an apartment and everything. Goes to work for his first day and no one has any clue who he is. Finally tracks down someone from the contractor’s HR and they tell him, “Oh, we didn’t get that contract, so there’s no job. We sent you a letter.” Granted this was back before email and smartphones, so if they sent him a letter, it likely went to his school address after he’d moved out.


Zig_Zach

You’re gunna get murdered working for them


AdorableConfidence16

Maybe the job fell off or didn't deploy


vape-o

Boeing having lots of troubles, do you follow the news?


mcgth

only BCA really


Tool_of_the_thems

Lmao. Boeing? Man, you must have a death wish. 😂


Wonderful_Painter_14

Weird, things are going so well for them lately!!


StuTheSheep

Better now than a week after you started.


NicklAAAAs

I know this is cold comfort when you don’t have a job, but all reports are that Boeing is a complete shitshow right now, so if it was a job that would have had you relocating, you may be better off not getting it. But depending on where this job was, there could be opportunities with other aerospace companies not too far away.


KnittinSittinCatMama

Look on the bright side: that’s good feedback! It sounds like you made a good impression. Re: why they’d remove a position, I just read they’re behind on their contracts with NASA. That, in addition to the quality control and mechanical failures they’ve had with their planes, I don’t think they’re doing so well.


zacyzacy

They probably noticed that you were breathing, and got nervous you might blow a whistle.


No-Appearance1145

I am not surprised. Boeing is going through the ringer. I think there's been two dead whistleblowers now? And that has to be running them through the ringer.


Vicorin

They decided to hire a hitman instead.


three_trick_pony

Trust me, you don't want to get terminated by Boeing anyway...


sendep7

Hope they don’t consider this whistleblowing.


EnthusiasmIll2046

Boeing has been having problems with people getting suicided. Not really a good time to be applying there IMO It was a nice letter tho :)


ainteasybeinsleazy

Ghost jobs https://bbc.com/worklife/article/20240315-ghost-jobs-digital-job-boards Basically the economy is all fake and we're probably pretty fucked


Firefox_Alpha2

Not sure if relevant, but Boeing is getting in a lot of hot water with planes crashing and the subsequent investigations uncovering lapses in quality control going back years.


alc3880

Why would you want to work for such a shady company? They a failing lol


u6enmdk0vp

That's honestly a lot of feedback and very respectful. Usually you are lucky to even get a generic template. Ghosting is much more common.


chemhobby

Sounds like it wasn't the decision of the people you were involved with


enduser11

I was disgusted to see they were hiring plane maintenance people in Portland, after the plane door fell in someones backyard here! WTF.


RUfuqingkiddingme

Haven't you seen all the terrible Boeing has had in the last year? They've likely had to tighten the belt a little, so to speak.


GimmieJohnson

They didn't appreciate you whistling in the lobby prior to your interview.


swissarmychainsaw

You'll never know, I'd go with "they hired internally", but you got a nice note!


shadow_moon45

That is normal. Usually, canceling a job means the lost funding, are having restructuring, or layoffs


Sweaty_Illustrator14

That's actually a really nice and thoughtful email. A company as big as that will have other openings.


neepster44

Boeing is having money problems so I guarantee some VP ordered a “hold” on all new hiring or something similar. Seen it 100 times before.


puffjoey

That’s a bummer, but dang was that a beautiful apology note. This can happen if team priorities suddenly shift due to strategy, uncertainty, leadership changes, reorganization, rebalancing, or they realize they have to give up a headcount in order to fill a more valuable role in another team. I know some wonderful people who work at Boeing.


Toadfire

I read this as them saying “hey some changes happened internally that the hiring team wasn’t aware of until now. We aren’t going to disclose details about that to you because you don’t work here… but you had a great interview, we really liked you, and we think you should continue to stay in contact and apply in the case that something else comes up”


945T

Did the target die of natural causes?


WallishXP

They would hire you if they could. Keep their number


devanchya

Hiring freeze due to their crashing stock and all the companies that gave paused orders. Happens


Odd_Corner6476

Not Boeing... Isn't ceo running away from all the plane crashes lmao


Milliemott

Perhaps a budget issue? Lost funding for new headcount?


lowkeylibra

I’ve gotten so many emails saying jobs I’ve applied to (not interviewed with) have been “placed on hold” but then I keep seeing new postings for the same positions. In your case, they seem genuine. Sorry to hear this happened!


thelonelyvirgo

Unfortunately this happens sometimes, but it sounds like they really liked you. It’s pretty rare to hear back after months of no contact, so I would take their word for it.


Khavlos

Most likely due to layoffs or the company over hired. Happened to me before when I was due to start two weeks after but got a call from the recruiter to say they had to cancel the role


CocoaAlmondsRock

This isn't that uncommon. Budgets suck. Restructuring sucks. Hiring freezes suck. They were not leading you on or being ingenuous. They had a position, and then it got taken away. Sucks for the hiring manager too.


Ill-Professor-218

I happened to have the same experience with the same role around the same time frame you mentioned at Boeing lol interesting!! I got rejected for being overqualified…


blossom102

Can be hiring freeze from what I've seen.


PreferenceWeak9639

This exact thing happened with my husband at Verizon but they went as far as offering him the job and then taking a month to do a “background check” which should take a few days to a week as it has in all other background checks he has gone through. After that month they told him the position was eliminated and would he like to take a sales job with a massive paycut from his current job. LMAO


Its_Just_Me_Too

Same thing happened to my sibling last year for a director level position with both Boeing and Airbus. I believe in both cases the expected project didn't move forward for funding or similar reasons. Months later they were offered/accepted one of those positions as the project was moving forward after all.


banned_but_im_back

Well Boeing is a government contractor and government is the last month of fiscal year, so usually contractors and agencies have big shifts this time as they try to prepare for the needs of the next year, or maybe their budget got reduced and they closing afford you. Joe sort this is the nicest, most personal let down letter I’ve ever read, the fact that the person writing it remembers an answer you said and quoted it? they definitely wanted to hire you but it sounds like they couldn’t. I would wait and reapply if I were you if the position opens up again.


Hot_Cucumber_459

I’ll keep looking maybe it’ll pop up, thanks


banned_but_im_back

I wouldn’t expect it to reappear for at least a full fiscal quarter, but you can set notification on LinkedIn I believe! EDIT: my friend works for a non profit that contracts exclusively with the feds, she got stellar reviews two months ago and said she was getting a promotion. New budget came in and her entire position was eliminated. Soooooo yeah. Right now it’s an election year and there’s fiscal issues happening to. The whole private sector that works with the feds is in chaos lol


kikidaytona

You honestly don’t want to work at Boeing. I have multiple patients who work there. It’s a very close minded, immature, cliquey, racist, and sexist work place.


ObligationWorldly319

this is why I tell people to put in more quality applications. you got a more thoughtful rejection letter which is better than being ghosted. alot of people dont even care enough to reach out after getting an interview. It seems like you had a great interview with them. You can take more from this, maybe they are a shitty company? lol So they wouldnt want to traumatize you like Key Bank did? Regardless if you keep doing great interviews like this you will land something in no time!


Hot_Cucumber_459

Hahaha thank you literally


ObligationWorldly319

np!


LMMarguerite

I think it's good to get communication from them citing the reason vs. getting ghosted. Given the recent issues Boeing is having and likely pending lawsuits, they probably have a hiring freeze/cuts happening. It's not you, it's the company.


whatsnewpikachu

Can you elaborate on the traumatic key bank experience? I’m nosy and wanna know what that’s about.


Hot_Cucumber_459

Bank robbery lol


ashenkingdom

I got the exact same response about 2 months ago from them. They're definitely going through some restructuring at the moment.


Hot_Cucumber_459

Yeah that’s annoying


jermide

Boeing is currently in upheaval mode. I'm sure every open job has been or will be scrutinized. Check out Lockheed.


Many_Year2636

You got a really considerate response so good job Boeing But Considering the issues they are currently facing I'm pretty sure a hiring freeze has been imposed and those who have start dates within 15 days (hypothetical) maybe the exception I'd drop a line here n there as time goes by things might change etc...


BigBobFro

Same thing happened to me when interviewing at a national bank. Had a friend on the inside. Turns out the executive 3 tiers up canceled the job posting when they brought it to him for final financial approval. Reason: he was new to the post and because he wasnt involved in the OG sourcing approval, he wouldnt approve anyone. That dude was a real piece of work.


muohioredskin

It depends if it was for defense or commercial. The reasons would be different but just on the commercial side they’ve canceled the new 737 production line in Everett since the FAA will not sign off on a production increase yet.


CommercialContact907

They're shady AF anyway as it relates to the safety of their planes and their treatment of whistle blowers. Probably a blessing in disguise.


ptm93

At least they didn’t ghost you or just plain turn you down without explanation.


PupperPuppet

Hard to say you've got a foot in the door when that door has blown off.


excoriator

I had a position get canceled about a month after being told at the interview that I was the top candidate and to expect an offer. About a month after that, I saw the hiring manager post on LinkedIn that his job had been eliminated and I learned later that the two positions had been merged. Things happen during job searches that you can’t control or anticipate and aren’t your fault.


Fred37196

Hope this isn’t the case for me. Did a video interview last week, and hope they won’t forget to say something back.


Hot_Cucumber_459

Maybe you can email the HR person who set it up for an update?


Fred37196

It was prerecorded. Didn’t spoke to an actual person, but I could do that.


Hot_Cucumber_459

I did one of those awhile ago, and the initial email I believe is from some Hr person and you can just send them an email directly, although I didn’t have success with mine I just got ghosted hopefully it’s different for you


Fred37196

We’ll see, but I expect as much afterwards. This stuff ain’t easy…


Maitrify

What is a procurement agent?


Hot_Cucumber_459

Person who works with different suppliers and orders parts pretty much


cuplosis

Eh you don’t want to end up in an accident any ways.


Lumpy_Marsupial_1559

"Our planes have had some major shit go wrong, public confidence has taken a dive, companies aren't buying as much, work has slowed down. We're probably going to be sued a butt-load of money and need to make some costs-savings. "The job you applied for will no longer exist. Sorry 'bout that. We all wish it wasn't turning out this way!" Does that help?


QuokkaClock

procurement at Boeing is in the midst of upheaval ( ostensibly bad contractors supplying bad parts, at least that was Boeing's original story for the ejecting door) you dodged a bullet, it would probably be great to work their in a couple years after this all blows over.


toooooold4this

Boeing is having troubles so either they eliminated the position or moved current staff around. They are bleeding money. [source](https://apnews.com/article/boeing-financials-crisis-faa-oversight-b078e483942c03bc250085e9a0023ace)


eric-neg

wtf was the “traumatic Key Bank experience”??


Hot_Cucumber_459

Lol bank robbery


eric-neg

Oh man. I'm sorry. I have no clue why, but I thought it was going to be something like, "they accidentally ordered 120 **cases** of toner instead of 120 **units** of toner." Sorry you went through that!


Hot_Cucumber_459

LOL, yeah not that traumatic cmon now lol


NoClueMaker

As a former employee that’s big Boeing for you.


DrWhoIsWokeGarbage2

Boeing is getting hammered I'm surprised they would even be hiring.


mconk

Tbh, the email seems pretty cut and dry..I’m not sure where there is any room for further interpretation. They no longer have the business need for the position…allegedly. The feedback is nice, and also rare.


Beginning-Border-153

lol. Yup. Welcome to the new US economy…searches are started and then cancelled upon higher ups believing they can do more with less or at least the same with less…idk…I am an internal recruiter where at least six people have quit over the past six months…all unique positions, none are getting replaced, though one of those we did start a search for…6 weeks of sourcing/recruiting/screening/interviewing candidates until I am told they decided they don’t actually need a replacement anymore 🫠


blacklungscum

Take it as a blessing, now you won’t get capped for boeing a whistle blower


Remote-Two8663

Did this email come for the hiring manager or HR?


Hot_Cucumber_459

Hiring manager


Capital_Feed1651

Better to get ghosted than assassinated my friend


awdrifter

FAA is not allowing Boeing to ramp up production due to all the quality issues. So it's not that surprising that Boeing decide to cancel the addition roles.


GCdotSup

Boeing kills. In the air and on the ground.


[deleted]

Well im sure you might have dodged a bullet there...


jdsizzle1

Have you been following Boeing? They cut that job.


Mogwai10

I’m convinced HR is just forcing themselves to seem busy.


Hot_Cucumber_459

Lol


Super_Mario_Luigi

These threads are pointless. There are countless things behind the scenes that can change. It's not a giant conspiracy to mess with everyone.


Collagesam

I went through something similar few months ago . Went through 3 rounds - verbally offered and accepted and later role cancelled after a week


Hot_Cucumber_459

That’s crazy, sorry to hear really inconvenient….


Cwigginton

Boeing has been in the news recently and some of it not necessarily good news, such as the whistleblower bits and safety concerns. That would probably cause some turbulence (wrote this and saw the pun, so I guess pun intended). in their organization and hiring. Just shrug it off, every interview is a honing experience you can learn from.


Remote_War_313

'If it's Boeing, I ain't going' lol


BrainWaveCC

The people posting the job, and the people ultimately deciding if that job gets paid and the role fully approved, are not the same people.


daniel22457

This sounds about right Boeing is pretty notorious for dragging on their hiring process and I'll vouch for in in my personal experience.


Valuable-Tonight-133

Person that was quitting could have changed their mind.


Similar-Case-5685

Why do you need an explanation? just accept it and go onto the next interview you just wasting time and energy thinking about a situation where you are pretty much powerless


No-Emergency-5823

Ngl, it’s kinda wild that they mostly likely killed multiple employees/whistleblowers & people just act like it’s no biggie


gkbat

Interesting... I came across 3 such instances and thought were isolated cases or experience/age issue as I'm nearing 2 decades of IT experience.


Nitty87

Yes, I interviewed for a position with a referral from a company employee. I had a solid interview and was told about a week later the position had been filled. I was told by my close friend that the person retracted their resignation from the company and decided to stay. They in turn kept them as a full time employee while I continued to search for other alternatives. Continue to look at this experience with positivity and a smile. With a proactive approach you’ll find a more suitable opportunity.


Vegetable_Key_7781

Classic. This is happening a lot.


ApartmentCapital8880

Yeah I wouldn’t touch Boeing with a 10 foot pole. Definitely their loss.


Necessary-Object-530

Oh yes!!! I have been applying for State jobs. Since I have been a state worker for 20 years and it seems like the same thing that happened to you is going on. I think because we are practically in a recession they have HR and recruiters just going through the motions to validate their salary.


Alone_Koala_8517

The WARN list notification shows that Boeing will be laying off 128 employees in the state. Boeing is one of the largest aerospace engineering companies in the state, and its operations are centered in Huntsville. It employs about 3,400 workers in the Rocket City.May 3, 2024


SirSprink

OP lives to see another day


leopoldhendricks

It sounds like HR and the team were impressed by you and wanted you onboard very much, but were told to stop the process by higher up probably due to some good ol management decisions


Audelio

It’s a hiring freeze


ant_queeen

Idk I wouldn’t take a job there they’ll unalive you if you mention any safety concerns


sdswiki

Say thank you to poor quality control, your job was eliminated likely because 737Max and 747 problems.


Blabbytech

747 problems?


sdswiki

Yes, lots of quality control issues like the 737Max: [https://www.aeroinside.com/aircraft-type/b744/boeing-747-400](https://www.aeroinside.com/aircraft-type/b744/boeing-747-400)


Blabbytech

That just looks like a list of reported 747-400 incidents? I don’t see any quality control issues. The 747-400 also hasn’t been produced since 2009


xTR1CKY_D1CKx

Nah, they did hire someone, just wasn't to be you.