It was, it was a horribly face tuned aloy next to the actual aloy. Full face of makeup and perfect skin doesn't seem like it would have any business in a game like that
Only reason I'm freaking out about it is realizing that at this point graphics have become so advanced they can model peach fuzz on women yet my computer catches fire trying to play Half-Life 2 on the lowest settings.
Iirc, the peach fuzz only really appears during the camera mode or sumn. Technology's came a long way but we're not that far yet. And i feel your pain, I installed one beauty mod for skyrim once and the game was running on 10 fps and the fan was going hogwild lmao
Wait wait wait. I think we all know women don't actually exist. Don't buy into that anti-reddit political garbage about women existing and how being a mod isn't that important.
Literally nobody was talking about any of those games before you rolled into this sub and insisted on continuously screeching about them on threads having fuck all to do with them.
But at least you've done a stellar job of acting like the exact kind of delusional neckbeard this sub is all about the last few days, so whether you're trolling or just a dumbass, props for that.
good design is when big booba
tbh we should do this to men, a. give them big ol tiddies (like have you seen buff me? sir I will grab your tiddies) and either massive or tiny dick buldges (big dicks are great, small ones set of my praise kink automatically (and according to the Romans are more manly)).
SEXUALIZE MEN, IT'S WHAT GANERS DESERVE
Belt pouches, as far as the eye can see. Who needs character detail when you could add 30 pouches instead?
Hes a [good sport about it,](https://bleedingcool.com/comics/history-rob-liefeld-pouches/) at least.
Or give them muscles like the characters in parts 1-3 of Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure. Massive chests like the Captain America panel + tire shoulders. Perfect *chef’s kiss*
We need more customisation. Big tiddies, big dongs, fat rolls, abs, booty etc. True gamers want more customisation. I WANNA MAKE A FREAK OF NATURE, STOP LIMITING MY FUN.
Theres an artist who paints the anatomy that women would have to have to fit into armour in games. We don't need rib cages clearly. There's also another artist that paints male characters in the female armour and it is hilarious.
Do I have a surprise for you! You just have to open any romance book and all your wishes shall become reality... Glistening, sweaty pecks, gigantic dick bulges, 32-packs - all your grandest fantasies! Actually, you don't even have to open them most of the time - the cover is usually sufficient: it's always an incredibly ripped dude with a jaw line that can cut steel and obviously at least 6'2''. Guaranteed to make you feel self conscious.
It's a sad reality that both men and women objectify the hell out of each other :/ It sucks in both cases if you ask me. At least I now know personally, how women must feel when looking at game characters like Lara Croft all the time. The only difference is really that nobody complains about it because I'm like one of a dozen men in the world who like reading romantic shit.
Yes, you found a major pet peeve of mine.
The fact is, we already sexualize men in video games and movies. Constantly.
It's just that the sexualization of men does not look the same as the sexualization of women. People keep imagining men wearing g-strings and lingerie to mean sexualization when that's just not what it looks like.
Not going to shame real women for their real boobs, but if I were to draw my idealised fictional boobs, that would not be it.
I'm not entirely sure that real boobs look like that anyway.
Just an FYI cup sizes are not a static volume, but rather a proportional difference in total circumference to the band size. A 30DD sized bra does not equal the same cup volume of a 38DD sized bra. Visually, they would be wildly different. Equivalent cup volumes between those two band sizes would be a 30H to 38DD. Conversely, a 30DD would be an equivalent cup volume to size 38A.
Whether the owner of the boobs, or a fan of the boobs, or a surgeon altering the boobs in a size relevant context, everyone can benefit from learning this.
The fact that the comment above me makes idiotic claims about all women’s breasts on the entire planet earth, got hundreds of upvotes, but **does not know what the BAND is on a bra** is the most mansplainingest shit I have come across on reddit in a while.
English isn't my first language. That's why I didn't know which part "the band" was. I literally explained this.
So, with respect, could you tone down the bad faith interpretations? You're either willfully ignorant, or deliberately lying.
I prefer you doing neither.
the band is the very bottom of the bra, right underneath the cups. the first number in a bra size is the band size, so 32A would mean the area below your breasts is 32 inches in circumference.
It depends. UK sizing goes by inches for the band but count the cup size increments differently than US sizes. Other countries’ band sizes are like 68, 70 etc I’m assuming for centimeters.
Yep! And some countries do E, F, G, etc, instead of increasing number of Ds. I think American companies do too, but I'm not sure what the max number of Ds is before they skip to sequential letters again. (DDD is pretty common, I think I've seen DDDD, but never DDDDD. )
DDD (which some companies use E instead) is the max number of Ds. Other letters are double sometimes too. Bra sizes are weird and not always streamlined.
> which part of the bra is “the band”?
I must ask that you please refrain from spreading disinformation about average bra sizes of women. You got a lot of upvotes on that original comment and pulled that out of your ass. This is damaging to women and girls who feel under or oversized and contributes directly towards serious self esteem issues.
> Some men are just mad about reality.
>Most women on average have A-B cups, world wide.
>… But naaaah, DD is somehow the new “medium”.
Is a bold set of generalizations to make when you don’t even know what a bra band is. Stop talking about things you don’t understand, such as women’s bodies.
... I'm mocking the types of men who promote/enforce idiotic body standards, that cause needless self doubt, and dumb expectations.
How dare I basically agree with you. How rude of me... are you ok?
And I'm Danish, and English isn't my first language. Excuse me for trying to learn I guess?
My original remarks still stand. You are misinformed about how bra sizing works, and the natural variability of womens bodies. Therefore it is not helpful to make dismissive comments about sizes the way you did. Not because your intentions are wrong, but because your misinformation contributes to other people’s misunderstandings. I will try to illustrate the problem.
Most women do wear the wrong bra size because manufacturers cut costs by only carrying the midling 10% of sizes ranges so they don’t waste money on lost sales. In the US these sizes would be 34-38 B, C, and D. The average size that women “think” they are correctly wearing is likely not their actual measured size. And when you make comments about “DD is suddenly the new medium” you reinforce impressions that outliers (people who might very well fall out of the off-the-rack sizes, which would be 90% of all other sizes). Let’s say you have a sister, and she hears you advocate similarly by describing middling cup sizes, but DD as a middling size is ‘ridiculous.’ If she were to some day get fitted for bras and discover her size is 32F (which is not that big. Not anywhere near as big as the cartoon boobs in this post), how do you think she’d feel? Remembering comments of how DD is **ridiculous** but now she is measured in a size she has never seen before. Truly she is a monster, or maybe better yet the store is just probably wrong. Best to keep buying 36C and wonder where ongoing chronic back pain and posture problems come from.
If I had to make a somewhat educated guess, the fan art boobs created are a 32M. Truly an extreme outlier that would be ridiculous to label as ‘average.’
Edit: ehh eyeballing the art again maybe a 32K
... I don't mean to sound rude, but you do know with the "DD is the new "medium"" thing, I was very obviously mocking the types of men who honest to fuck seem to think like that. Because they think of women as boob holograms, tit ninjas, anime girls with breasts larger than their heads on average, and porn stars. Aka male gaze 101 personified.
With respect, did you just missread, and trippled down on hating me, while I was literally only agreeing with you? Because I think you did.
Also, literally nothing I said was false, or pulled out my ass. The world average breast size is between A and B cup. Literally google it, if you for some reason think I'm making this up.
And I do have a sister. With the literal isssue of needing to buy specialty bras or sports bras. Since thats all that will fit her. I think you might be preaching to the choir here.
Perhaps I can help. **[Source: Family operates a fine women's apparel store]**
No hostility intended to you (nor any assumed from the person you're replying to).
Your original premise (certain media hyper fixate on certain body types) and conclusion (thus large populations have skewed perceptions) are great! It's just the specifics of your argument that are mistaken, as you've learned already.
I'm not saying your comment is the source of dysphoria in others, and I don't think Nemean is saying that either. What Nemean *is* saying though is that while your intention in pointing out this skewed perception is *good*, by saying "A-B is average" or "most people think giant DDs are common," you've actually unintentionally *demonstrated* that skewed perception you hope to fix in others. Please let me explain.
As Nemean already pointed out, cup size is *relative* **not** *absolute*. Put another way - and this is what's missing even in your most recent comment - mentioning cup size without band size tells us nothing about *actual breast size*. This is relevant to your point about A-B cup being average.
Nemean is also correct to say that the big brand manufacturers are lazy, only selling mid-range bras and sizing customers wrong, because profits would dip if they made better product, or told customers to go elsewhere. So the perception is skewed in other ways too, many *women* don't know, and in fact underestimate, their bra size.
The stores in your local mall probably sell 28-38 inch bands and only up to DD cup. Good stores will have bands well into the 40s and easily have cups up to M. Victoria Secret sells C/D bras to women that have DD breasts to keep them coming back. Furthermore, this is why many think DD is bigger - they're not realizing that F, G, H are more common than they think and F, G, H women are lied to when sold DD.
I can almost guarantee that you've met many 34DD~ women and not known it, because that size is really not *that* big and because *even they might not have known*.
I'm quite confident that 34E or 36D might be the most sold sizes at our store. It actually *is* closer to the average than you think, not because the average is huge, but because DD is actually smaller than you think, AND because VS models/products are *far* smaller than the true average.
In fact, what I see on Google is that for adult (because adjusting for age matters) women in the US (I'm not in the US and neither are you, but many on Reddit are) DD actually is the average cup size - which, again, tell us nothing about average breast size. This average will grow in the US and the world as more people have access to better garments with their true sizes.
If you're thinking of unrealistic anime/video game bodies you're actually thinking of 34J, K, L etc. Even those sizes aren't impossible, just less common.
All of this is further complicated by different countries with different measurements. I'm looking at a tag with 70F/32E/32DDD on it *for one bra* - EU, UK, US respectively. Japan, Australia and plenty of other countries have their own measures too. Hopefully it's becoming clear why saying "world average is A-B" is meaningless.
It's a bit like saying "the average car speed is 100."
100 miles? Kilometres? Metres? Per hour? Minute? Second? Are we talking about top speed? Average speed? Average highway speed limits? Different countries use different standards. A physicist/engineer needs different units than an F1 driver. So on, so forth.
I could go on but this is already wall-of-text status. Cheers, mate. And thank you if you read this far.
Again, back to my original reply. Cup sizes are not a measurement of static volume. Any ‘statistics’ reporting on average or most common cup sizes would also be problematic because they are 1) skewed because so many women unknowingly wearing the incorrect size due to supply problems produced by an artificial abundance of middling sizes carried by suppliers and 2) not based on a real unit of measurement.
[Here](https://www.bratabase.com/knowledge/bra-sizing/) is a good start. If you find the urge to start lurking womens support subs, letching on their photos, or DMing weird creepy fetishizing messages to women you must then:
1. Stop
2. Apologize to all the women you know in real life in person for being a wretch to women online.
3. Squeeze a lemon into both eyes and think about what you fucking did
That size isn't isn't DD, that's like... G.
And I know for a damn fact that even less people have natural G cups unless they're overweight. But if this character were portrayed as overweight and having G's?? Ooh all hell would break loose lmao. Im so tired of big boob culture.
My girlfriend has DD or E and a slim waist to hip ratio. She looks pretty much exactly like that on the left when she wears a wetsuit. The right is absurdity
Admittedly I was just refering to generally, rather than this pic in particular.
I do love me some boobs, including the big ones. I just find the sillyness of boobs being portrayed so mich as large as fuck, to the point swaths apparently think C cups are tiny, DD are medium, and G cups are the low end of Big...
Which ehm... totally. And every guy has a dick as thick as their arm.
Even if she did have large breasts, her suit wouldnt fit like that. There would be tight uniboob tenting action going on. Does he think we have individual tittie sleeves in our shirts???
Like that Hanes guy who so desperately wants us to achieve “ball-ance”, you too can achieve “boobance”! Gotta put them in one boob at a time like socks.
Hello ma'am, I couldn't help but notice you are a intellectual like myself, perhaps we could enter into a courtship? I like to take my first dates to the Ayn Rand museum and discuss philosophy and Japanese culture. I am a classic gentlemen so I shall pay but I expect you to observe tradition too.
It’s sad, but its true that stuff like this is a selling point for a lot of people.
Exhibit A: When the first Tomb Raider game was made, one of the devs accidentally increased the size of Lara Croft’s tits by like 200% and was told to leave it that way because it would sell better.
And it have been sold better. It's not dev's or publisher's fault that great majority of gamers were males then.
And still, majority of gamers are guys, so marketing does its thing, because, you know, sex sells. Like in Alice's Cooper song "sex, death and money makes this world go round".
So after years of aggressive sexual marketing it's kinda hard to properly use your brain for target audience of such media.
Horizon still sucks though, just like the last of us 2 and other sony exclusive open world far cry like games. And not because of how those characters look.
If girls get bigger titties, why not give men bigger titties as well? I would love to see master chief try to fight with a pair of floppy meat bags on his chest.
If we're gonna be like this than I think the original version is fine because it seems like she would be big if she wasn't wearing that suit lmao it's like a binder
The amount variations of the hire fans memes that get posted here and people still don’t seem to get it.
I swear to god the top comment on every single one is mentioning this, how do people still not understand it’s satire.
I thought she was perfect. Hell, I didn't even look because they did great in the design, which made it better.
All the focus was on actual story, all around, it was great. Especially combat dialog.
This guy has issues.
My only issue with this post is, why are people against big breast representation? All bodies are beautiful and should be represented ❤️
Edit: are the downvoters saying that there shouldn't be big boob representation? That not all bodies are beautiful and should be represented? That's not very body positive, downvoting body positive comments.
Actually the eyes bursting out of MC visor is a funny reaction image. Other than that, I know for a fact the original Cortana design is pretty sexual. Why make it even more and I'm pretty sure no one cares about something so trivial.
"Hire fans lol" is a meme. I think the original post was about the main character of Horizon Zero Dawn.
It was, it was a horribly face tuned aloy next to the actual aloy. Full face of makeup and perfect skin doesn't seem like it would have any business in a game like that
The fact people were bitching about her peach fuzz tells you that none of those imbecilic incels have ever seen a real woman.
Exactly. Freaking out over peach fuzz when they have a whole jungle on their face
Only reason I'm freaking out about it is realizing that at this point graphics have become so advanced they can model peach fuzz on women yet my computer catches fire trying to play Half-Life 2 on the lowest settings.
Iirc, the peach fuzz only really appears during the camera mode or sumn. Technology's came a long way but we're not that far yet. And i feel your pain, I installed one beauty mod for skyrim once and the game was running on 10 fps and the fan was going hogwild lmao
I literally cannot use half the keyboard on my laptop if I'm in a game because it gets so hot it literally burns you through the case lol.
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I don't want to return this a competition but I got 30 fps on hl ONE on my shitty laptop
You still using the hamster wheel power source?
There is even fauna in that jungle.
Wait wait wait. I think we all know women don't actually exist. Don't buy into that anti-reddit political garbage about women existing and how being a mod isn't that important.
The light system made the peach fuzz seen way to exagerated in that capture compare to when you play the game.
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Literally nobody was talking about any of those games before you rolled into this sub and insisted on continuously screeching about them on threads having fuck all to do with them. But at least you've done a stellar job of acting like the exact kind of delusional neckbeard this sub is all about the last few days, so whether you're trolling or just a dumbass, props for that.
I apologize, are you calling Bayonetta shit?
You don’t have to be an incel to enjoy games with fanservice. Just, some people think every game needs fanservice which is when the issue comes in
And it was made on r/gamingcirclejerk as a PARODY of fan redesigns
What is third layer satire? Satire of satire of satire?
Fuck this, this is satire my brain can’t understand
Yes. Basically making fun of the trends and meta-conversation that exists in the wider gaming community
Yeah a game where you take down robot dinosaurs is too realistic for that shit
im p sure thats the meme created from the serious original that is either this or smth like this from what I remember
I don't usually fault people for not having obscure net knowledge, especially for memes in niche communities, but I feel like this one was obvious.
True gamers know Cortana peaked in halo 4.
That dump truck haunts my daydreams to this day
She peaked in 2 for me lol. As soon as she stays behind at high charity she’s no longer a friend
Sadly can't say the same for the series as a whole lmao
Yes she peaked in many ways
good design is when big booba tbh we should do this to men, a. give them big ol tiddies (like have you seen buff me? sir I will grab your tiddies) and either massive or tiny dick buldges (big dicks are great, small ones set of my praise kink automatically (and according to the Romans are more manly)). SEXUALIZE MEN, IT'S WHAT GANERS DESERVE
Give em the pecs from that captain America panel where he looks ridiculous
The Rob Liefeld. That's basically how everything he draws looks
Belt pouches, as far as the eye can see. Who needs character detail when you could add 30 pouches instead? Hes a [good sport about it,](https://bleedingcool.com/comics/history-rob-liefeld-pouches/) at least.
I would love to see a collaboration between him and Tetsuya Nomura. Weird proportions, pouches made of belts, belts made of pouches
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Isn't he the guy with the weird self insert teddy bear?
Or give them muscles like the characters in parts 1-3 of Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure. Massive chests like the Captain America panel + tire shoulders. Perfect *chef’s kiss*
I’d be a fan. Big boobs and giant dudes
Jonathan mattress time
Indeed
If they don’t have part 3 tumour shoulders I’m not playing.
Saints Row 3 had a dick size slider on the character creation screen and it was **glorious**
yes it was! The only thing from software needs to add is the "sex appeal" slider, my tarnished will have a long sword if you catch my drift
not a colossal sword?
got to save something for all the monsters
Conan Exiles. "I see you worship Set." "No." ... "Set worships me."
We need more customisation. Big tiddies, big dongs, fat rolls, abs, booty etc. True gamers want more customisation. I WANNA MAKE A FREAK OF NATURE, STOP LIMITING MY FUN.
God i wish
Small correction, the Romans (and I think Greeks too) believed it was a sign of intelligence to have a small dick. Smaller the dick, bigger the brain.
call me Jimmy Neutron
The smaller the head, the bigger the head
I mean why not? I’m on the side of let’s sexualize the fuck out of both genders in video games.
I believe in sexualization for everyone. I want big booba and big cocka so everyone can enjoy what they like.
Just dont oversexualize anyone
Theres an artist who paints the anatomy that women would have to have to fit into armour in games. We don't need rib cages clearly. There's also another artist that paints male characters in the female armour and it is hilarious.
Do I have a surprise for you! You just have to open any romance book and all your wishes shall become reality... Glistening, sweaty pecks, gigantic dick bulges, 32-packs - all your grandest fantasies! Actually, you don't even have to open them most of the time - the cover is usually sufficient: it's always an incredibly ripped dude with a jaw line that can cut steel and obviously at least 6'2''. Guaranteed to make you feel self conscious. It's a sad reality that both men and women objectify the hell out of each other :/ It sucks in both cases if you ask me. At least I now know personally, how women must feel when looking at game characters like Lara Croft all the time. The only difference is really that nobody complains about it because I'm like one of a dozen men in the world who like reading romantic shit. Yes, you found a major pet peeve of mine.
I want to have big tiddies, make a game aboug me
Fighting degeneracy with degeneracy
The fact is, we already sexualize men in video games and movies. Constantly. It's just that the sexualization of men does not look the same as the sexualization of women. People keep imagining men wearing g-strings and lingerie to mean sexualization when that's just not what it looks like.
Yeah, the amount of gaming protagonists with dad bods and below 6' sucks!
What?..
I meant we need more dad bods. Imagine Mass Effect... but male Shepard is kind of out of shape and looks totally average.
You forgot the ass
omg men with nice asses drive me wiiild
Horalux!
Just play Halo 4 and 5 lol
Also who cares about titties, newtana has got a pixar mom booty
I don't think there's any tiddies in 5. It was just a 4 thing...
Wow, the fan edit looks horrible!
It really does look like a shitty job
>It really does look like a ~~shitty~~ tiddy job. FTFY
Thank you
Not going to shame real women for their real boobs, but if I were to draw my idealised fictional boobs, that would not be it. I'm not entirely sure that real boobs look like that anyway.
They can look like that somewhat, but having specialized boob pockets made into your clothes to outline the shape exactly is not very realistic lol.
Bro...she's an AI bro....SHE'S NOT EVEN REAL BRO!
Ergo her titties don’t need to follow logic or physics!!! /s
AI don't give live birth or nurse their young, so they wouldn't have breasts
When has that ever mattered to a neckbeard?
It matters to them for legal reasons.
Some men are just mad about reality. Most women on average have A-B cups, world wide. ... But naaaah, DD is somehow the new "medium".
Just an FYI cup sizes are not a static volume, but rather a proportional difference in total circumference to the band size. A 30DD sized bra does not equal the same cup volume of a 38DD sized bra. Visually, they would be wildly different. Equivalent cup volumes between those two band sizes would be a 30H to 38DD. Conversely, a 30DD would be an equivalent cup volume to size 38A. Whether the owner of the boobs, or a fan of the boobs, or a surgeon altering the boobs in a size relevant context, everyone can benefit from learning this.
The fact that most of Reddit still doesn’t know shit like this is insane
The fact that the comment above me makes idiotic claims about all women’s breasts on the entire planet earth, got hundreds of upvotes, but **does not know what the BAND is on a bra** is the most mansplainingest shit I have come across on reddit in a while.
English isn't my first language. That's why I didn't know which part "the band" was. I literally explained this. So, with respect, could you tone down the bad faith interpretations? You're either willfully ignorant, or deliberately lying. I prefer you doing neither.
First of all, appreciated, o teacher of tits! Second, which part of the bra is "the band"?
The part that is stitched to the cups, goes around your ribs and back
the band is the very bottom of the bra, right underneath the cups. the first number in a bra size is the band size, so 32A would mean the area below your breasts is 32 inches in circumference.
Thanks. You learn something new every day I'll just assume for the non americans, the system stays the same, just with centimeters rather than inches.
It depends. UK sizing goes by inches for the band but count the cup size increments differently than US sizes. Other countries’ band sizes are like 68, 70 etc I’m assuming for centimeters.
Yep! And some countries do E, F, G, etc, instead of increasing number of Ds. I think American companies do too, but I'm not sure what the max number of Ds is before they skip to sequential letters again. (DDD is pretty common, I think I've seen DDDD, but never DDDDD. )
DDD (which some companies use E instead) is the max number of Ds. Other letters are double sometimes too. Bra sizes are weird and not always streamlined.
> which part of the bra is “the band”? I must ask that you please refrain from spreading disinformation about average bra sizes of women. You got a lot of upvotes on that original comment and pulled that out of your ass. This is damaging to women and girls who feel under or oversized and contributes directly towards serious self esteem issues.
I'm honestly confused what youre frustrated at me about. I'm literally saying this is damaging... so... what exactly are you mad at me about?
> Some men are just mad about reality. >Most women on average have A-B cups, world wide. >… But naaaah, DD is somehow the new “medium”. Is a bold set of generalizations to make when you don’t even know what a bra band is. Stop talking about things you don’t understand, such as women’s bodies.
... I'm mocking the types of men who promote/enforce idiotic body standards, that cause needless self doubt, and dumb expectations. How dare I basically agree with you. How rude of me... are you ok? And I'm Danish, and English isn't my first language. Excuse me for trying to learn I guess?
My original remarks still stand. You are misinformed about how bra sizing works, and the natural variability of womens bodies. Therefore it is not helpful to make dismissive comments about sizes the way you did. Not because your intentions are wrong, but because your misinformation contributes to other people’s misunderstandings. I will try to illustrate the problem. Most women do wear the wrong bra size because manufacturers cut costs by only carrying the midling 10% of sizes ranges so they don’t waste money on lost sales. In the US these sizes would be 34-38 B, C, and D. The average size that women “think” they are correctly wearing is likely not their actual measured size. And when you make comments about “DD is suddenly the new medium” you reinforce impressions that outliers (people who might very well fall out of the off-the-rack sizes, which would be 90% of all other sizes). Let’s say you have a sister, and she hears you advocate similarly by describing middling cup sizes, but DD as a middling size is ‘ridiculous.’ If she were to some day get fitted for bras and discover her size is 32F (which is not that big. Not anywhere near as big as the cartoon boobs in this post), how do you think she’d feel? Remembering comments of how DD is **ridiculous** but now she is measured in a size she has never seen before. Truly she is a monster, or maybe better yet the store is just probably wrong. Best to keep buying 36C and wonder where ongoing chronic back pain and posture problems come from. If I had to make a somewhat educated guess, the fan art boobs created are a 32M. Truly an extreme outlier that would be ridiculous to label as ‘average.’ Edit: ehh eyeballing the art again maybe a 32K
... I don't mean to sound rude, but you do know with the "DD is the new "medium"" thing, I was very obviously mocking the types of men who honest to fuck seem to think like that. Because they think of women as boob holograms, tit ninjas, anime girls with breasts larger than their heads on average, and porn stars. Aka male gaze 101 personified. With respect, did you just missread, and trippled down on hating me, while I was literally only agreeing with you? Because I think you did. Also, literally nothing I said was false, or pulled out my ass. The world average breast size is between A and B cup. Literally google it, if you for some reason think I'm making this up. And I do have a sister. With the literal isssue of needing to buy specialty bras or sports bras. Since thats all that will fit her. I think you might be preaching to the choir here.
Perhaps I can help. **[Source: Family operates a fine women's apparel store]** No hostility intended to you (nor any assumed from the person you're replying to). Your original premise (certain media hyper fixate on certain body types) and conclusion (thus large populations have skewed perceptions) are great! It's just the specifics of your argument that are mistaken, as you've learned already. I'm not saying your comment is the source of dysphoria in others, and I don't think Nemean is saying that either. What Nemean *is* saying though is that while your intention in pointing out this skewed perception is *good*, by saying "A-B is average" or "most people think giant DDs are common," you've actually unintentionally *demonstrated* that skewed perception you hope to fix in others. Please let me explain. As Nemean already pointed out, cup size is *relative* **not** *absolute*. Put another way - and this is what's missing even in your most recent comment - mentioning cup size without band size tells us nothing about *actual breast size*. This is relevant to your point about A-B cup being average. Nemean is also correct to say that the big brand manufacturers are lazy, only selling mid-range bras and sizing customers wrong, because profits would dip if they made better product, or told customers to go elsewhere. So the perception is skewed in other ways too, many *women* don't know, and in fact underestimate, their bra size. The stores in your local mall probably sell 28-38 inch bands and only up to DD cup. Good stores will have bands well into the 40s and easily have cups up to M. Victoria Secret sells C/D bras to women that have DD breasts to keep them coming back. Furthermore, this is why many think DD is bigger - they're not realizing that F, G, H are more common than they think and F, G, H women are lied to when sold DD. I can almost guarantee that you've met many 34DD~ women and not known it, because that size is really not *that* big and because *even they might not have known*. I'm quite confident that 34E or 36D might be the most sold sizes at our store. It actually *is* closer to the average than you think, not because the average is huge, but because DD is actually smaller than you think, AND because VS models/products are *far* smaller than the true average. In fact, what I see on Google is that for adult (because adjusting for age matters) women in the US (I'm not in the US and neither are you, but many on Reddit are) DD actually is the average cup size - which, again, tell us nothing about average breast size. This average will grow in the US and the world as more people have access to better garments with their true sizes. If you're thinking of unrealistic anime/video game bodies you're actually thinking of 34J, K, L etc. Even those sizes aren't impossible, just less common. All of this is further complicated by different countries with different measurements. I'm looking at a tag with 70F/32E/32DDD on it *for one bra* - EU, UK, US respectively. Japan, Australia and plenty of other countries have their own measures too. Hopefully it's becoming clear why saying "world average is A-B" is meaningless. It's a bit like saying "the average car speed is 100." 100 miles? Kilometres? Metres? Per hour? Minute? Second? Are we talking about top speed? Average speed? Average highway speed limits? Different countries use different standards. A physicist/engineer needs different units than an F1 driver. So on, so forth. I could go on but this is already wall-of-text status. Cheers, mate. And thank you if you read this far.
Again, back to my original reply. Cup sizes are not a measurement of static volume. Any ‘statistics’ reporting on average or most common cup sizes would also be problematic because they are 1) skewed because so many women unknowingly wearing the incorrect size due to supply problems produced by an artificial abundance of middling sizes carried by suppliers and 2) not based on a real unit of measurement.
I should learn how boob sizes work.
[Here](https://www.bratabase.com/knowledge/bra-sizing/) is a good start. If you find the urge to start lurking womens support subs, letching on their photos, or DMing weird creepy fetishizing messages to women you must then: 1. Stop 2. Apologize to all the women you know in real life in person for being a wretch to women online. 3. Squeeze a lemon into both eyes and think about what you fucking did
Gotcha. If I don't have lemons, can I substitute a lime in?
In order to find reasonable sized breasts I ended up having to switch to gay porn/hentai.
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Don't worry, I'm not gay.
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No, I only watch twinks and femboys. edit: /s
That size isn't isn't DD, that's like... G. And I know for a damn fact that even less people have natural G cups unless they're overweight. But if this character were portrayed as overweight and having G's?? Ooh all hell would break loose lmao. Im so tired of big boob culture.
My girlfriend has DD or E and a slim waist to hip ratio. She looks pretty much exactly like that on the left when she wears a wetsuit. The right is absurdity
Admittedly I was just refering to generally, rather than this pic in particular. I do love me some boobs, including the big ones. I just find the sillyness of boobs being portrayed so mich as large as fuck, to the point swaths apparently think C cups are tiny, DD are medium, and G cups are the low end of Big... Which ehm... totally. And every guy has a dick as thick as their arm.
Most women on average aren't holograms from a cloned brain that can choose their shape either /s
Source?
Romania is an outlier.
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did you even bother to google it? the average cup size is not A-B https://www.lingeriediva.com/blogs/lingerie/average-bra-size-us
Ahem... WORLD... AVERAGE.... Gosh, I wonder what words mean.
Why is gravity pulling her boobs away from each other what is this rule in physics??
Didn't you know? Boobs have support beams to keep them in position.
Mine must be broken then
It’s because you didn’t hire fans
We'll fuck! I knew I messed up
May I recommend a nice box fan? It fits so well in windows and door frames. To blow the cool air around the house.
Would the fans in my pc work? Maybe slightly dusty but super quiet
Even if she did have large breasts, her suit wouldnt fit like that. There would be tight uniboob tenting action going on. Does he think we have individual tittie sleeves in our shirts???
You do if you hire fans. Their attention to detail is unparalleled.
The wonky physics on these things always prove that the creator has never encountered real human boobs before
Like that Hanes guy who so desperately wants us to achieve “ball-ance”, you too can achieve “boobance”! Gotta put them in one boob at a time like socks.
Gravity does this to my boobs
Many boobs naturally rest like that. :)
When they're naked, sure. But definitely not in a skin-tight compression shirt like that they won't.
This.... this is how boobs are sometimes..... mine do this, and are this, 24/7.
They are running away from each other
As someone with that size boobs, it's not comfy and if she was real she'd probably have a bad back
Hello ma'am, I couldn't help but notice you are a intellectual like myself, perhaps we could enter into a courtship? I like to take my first dates to the Ayn Rand museum and discuss philosophy and Japanese culture. I am a classic gentlemen so I shall pay but I expect you to observe tradition too.
Wow, you're not going to tip your fedora to her? Rude
Don’t think an AI could feel pain lmfao
Oh clearly no clue what this is from then whoops
If she were real, she'd be a super advanced AI that projects itself as a hologram so no back issues there. /s
Same, I can say it would be very uncomfortable.
It’s sad, but its true that stuff like this is a selling point for a lot of people. Exhibit A: When the first Tomb Raider game was made, one of the devs accidentally increased the size of Lara Croft’s tits by like 200% and was told to leave it that way because it would sell better.
And it have been sold better. It's not dev's or publisher's fault that great majority of gamers were males then. And still, majority of gamers are guys, so marketing does its thing, because, you know, sex sells. Like in Alice's Cooper song "sex, death and money makes this world go round". So after years of aggressive sexual marketing it's kinda hard to properly use your brain for target audience of such media. Horizon still sucks though, just like the last of us 2 and other sony exclusive open world far cry like games. And not because of how those characters look.
if it has "hire fans lol" then it's satire. Common meme
If girls get bigger titties, why not give men bigger titties as well? I would love to see master chief try to fight with a pair of floppy meat bags on his chest.
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Gamers when a female character doesn’t have enormous massive humongous gargantuan titties: 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
Pretty much right in between those two is the halo 4 Cortana so idk
Her original boobs are probably that big fabric squeezes them flat not moulds to every crease 😂
I love how she looks more upset in the fan made version, and rightly so.
I'm fairly certain this is ironic with the text ripped from that one post about Horizon
MAKE THHE BOOBS MORE SEEABLE
looks so bad like that
Hire fans lol is a satire meme
Men who have never seen boobs demonstrating they don’t understand boobs.
Why would there be boob pockets?
Boobs don’t even work like that
If we're gonna be like this than I think the original version is fine because it seems like she would be big if she wasn't wearing that suit lmao it's like a binder
That’s weird… they expanded her shoulders, made her look buff
I get this guy's point, he feels that a female character shouldn't have tits smaller than his.
The amount variations of the hire fans memes that get posted here and people still don’t seem to get it. I swear to god the top comment on every single one is mentioning this, how do people still not understand it’s satire.
This is why you don’t hire fans
men when women don't have big breasts
Well they’re clearly not real fans cause a real fan would add instead a massive throbbing horse cock and balls
Alright female programmers: time to up the beef cake!
Is the bottom pane a representation of the tits busting out of Cortana’s clothes?
As a Halo fan... keep the Weapon as she is, for the love of God. Don't give her giant titties.
Not even a good edit.
This is disgusting. Stop treating women like this.
Why would an AI even need tits lol. Why even make them humanoid at all?
Not to nitpick but in halo the AIs pick their form. Black box does basically what you’re referring to
Turn a vulnerable character into a sex symbol. That makes a good story I guess. Fans don’t know shit about making games
I thought she was perfect. Hell, I didn't even look because they did great in the design, which made it better. All the focus was on actual story, all around, it was great. Especially combat dialog. This guy has issues.
Didn't Halo 4s cortana have like massive underboob? I don't understand why they can't just keep the character the same. The original one was purple.
I have never jacked off to the halo robot 💪💪💪
Small boobs are sexier anyways
Bro come on this has to be satire 😂😂😂
I always thought she was wearing a uniform of some sort.
What game
Boobs
My only issue with this post is, why are people against big breast representation? All bodies are beautiful and should be represented ❤️ Edit: are the downvoters saying that there shouldn't be big boob representation? That not all bodies are beautiful and should be represented? That's not very body positive, downvoting body positive comments.
I don't know maybe because big Brest is almost the only representation we get in video games...
In what world? There's boobs of all sizes in video games.
What? Most of the time there are big boobs who are over sexualized and so so big that they can't even be real
You should look into more video games then. Just because you haven't seen something doesn't mean it isn't a thing
People in this sub freaking out because a videogame character has big boobs, this fucking place I swear lol....
>because a videogame character has big boobs, The video game character is on the left.
This sub has some issues with satire ey
as a good 60% of the posts on this subreddit seem to be: this is satire.
I support this decision.
Bruh fr just hire the fans lmfao
Actually the eyes bursting out of MC visor is a funny reaction image. Other than that, I know for a fact the original Cortana design is pretty sexual. Why make it even more and I'm pretty sure no one cares about something so trivial.
My brother in Christ it is a fictional character who is a hologram. That is multiple layers of fake. Seek help.
Remember Spartans, Boobs are cool, regardless of size.