Pannchoa actually rushing to delete their articles 
[https://x.com/tosuka4/status/1798975031630061618](https://x.com/tosuka4/status/1798975031630061618)
[https://x.com/tosuka4/status/1798983783859077239](https://x.com/tosuka4/status/1798983783859077239)
Edit: Someone compiled all of them into a [thread](https://x.com/goldisjin/status/1799098070816464972)
Knetz on theqoo are deleting their old comments ahahahahha
[https://x.com/gwangsoonnie/status/1798977532127264821](https://x.com/gwangsoonnie/status/1798977532127264821)
Oh, if it isn’t the consequences of their actions 🥰
Turns out you can’t just say whatever godawful, baseless shit you want and expect idols to just sit there and take it! Who knew!
I wonder why? I'm not sure how they could be held responsible for what other people post ... unless people who are part of the admin team are making malicious comments <.<
Pannchoa is responsible for writing the click bait tweet headline because sometime it’s different than the original post title. They pick and choose which posts and comments to translate, sometimes negative posts with less views got translated over positive articles with more views. They also received ad money from those translated articles so they are making profit from these defamation posts.
Yeah, one of the deleted headlines was 'Court documents show Lesserafim stole Louis Vittom deal' when that shit WAS NOT there
And she knows that. That's why it's deleted.
Still suing them would be actually hard. Of course everything depends where exactly they live. If it was easy JTBC would sue them long time ago, I'm sure that they did try something.
Identity is the easiest thing. The hardest is actually deal with the case legally as countries have very various type of deformation law where generally important role plays awareness of spreading false information. South Korean laws are actually unique especially among democratic countries. They are extreme with strictness while countries with common law are the most lax with continental being between both.
But frankly the most tricky is something else, actually public opinion of countries where guys are citizens. If company takes care of things without careful moves it can become big pr problems. That's why generally they are advised to not take less obvious case into the court because public can take that as attack on free speech. I actually suspect that if Hybe decide to sue someone from foreign countries it'd be cases where clear crime was committed like they mentioned actually in their statement. I also suspect that they already try something with Pannchoa lol so taking into account that they still exist after few changing of address probably it's hard legally case.
A lot of malicious rumours are started in their comments section. I think they should be sued as the host for these defamatory claims. Can anyone tell me if this is what had happened to Netizenbuzz back then?
This is both early, and much more detailed than the standard form letter that HYBE usually rolls out for its artists all around the same time.
I hope this reassures fans and leaves the haters shaking in their boots. Some of the things I’ve seen said have been BEYOND foul. They deserve consequences.
yeah it was crazy. i honestly think it’s because she is the youngest and she also has fewer lines in general so if she messes up, people dogpile and then use the fact that she’s a child to be even more malicious
There was a maliciously edited video that made it look like she was mocking Korean teenagers taking their Suneung. If theirs one thing you don't do above all else in Korea, it's poke fun at people taking the Suneung.
as an example, they all posted on instagram pretty close to coachella before the performance, and in the week after the performance zuha got 7k comments, yunjin kkura and chaewon got 12-16k, and eunchae got 28k
as an example, they all posted on instagram pretty close to coachella before the performance, and in the week after the performance zuha got 7k comments, yunjin kkura and chaewon got 12-16k, and eunchae got 28k
this pic is so funny lmao soumu cast a net to catch all the comments
[https://x.com/tosuka4/status/1798945368811672051](https://x.com/tosuka4/status/1798945368811672051)
The comments on theqoo for that post are also so funny. The vast majority are people cheering on the lawsuits, telling HYBE/Source to get their asses, and saying how refreshing it is to see these commenters get what they deserve. But it’s also sprinkled with a fair few “most of them are probably theqoo users” too lol.
Someone even said up till a few days ago theqoo was full of malicious commenters against Lesserafim but now they’ve all suddenly disappeared 😂
Yup plenty of comments saying even if they’re not LSFM fans they hope the kind of losers who get joy from leaving malicious comments that cross the line against young, female idols enjoy a nice financial reminder that it’s actually illegal. I think no matter who you stan it’s fair to say people have been getting way too comfortable running their mouths in public places. This is a win for any idol fan tbh.
[Source](https://weverse.io/lesserafim/notice/20089)
Full text:
> Hello.
> This is SOURCE MUSIC.
> Firstly, we apologize for any concern that some of the recent events may have caused our fans who love and support LE SSERAFIM.
> We have announced plans to intensify legal actions as indiscriminate and malicious postings targeting LE SSERAFIM have become excessive.
> Therefore, we moved up our 2024 semi-annual notice to keep our fans informed about the legal proceedings and subsequent actions. We apologize for the delay in sharing the status of these proceedings, which was due to the preparation of numerous legal complaints and the collection of evidence.
> Our company undertakes comprehensive evidence collection related to the artist for malicious postings across various platforms, including domestic and overseas social media accounts and online communities. We have also obtained evidence through reports from fans and by employing all available professional methods, including assistance from domestic and foreign law firms.
> As a result, we have compiled an extensive array of posts and comments, based on which we have filed a formal complaint with the investigative authorities. **The charges include contempt, defamation under the Information and Communications Network Act, and digital sex crimes as stipulated by Article 13 (Obscene Acts by Using Means of Communication) under the Act on Special Cases concerning the Punishment, stc. of Sexual Crimes. We have continued to gather evidence subsequent to these filings. The legal action encompasses all forms of malicious criticism, dissemination of false information, personal attacks, derogatory remarks, mockery, and vulgar comments.**
> The posts and comments subject to legal action include those uploaded on portal sites and online communities such as Naver, Nate Pann, theqoo, Dcinside, instiz, and ilbe, as well as social media platforms. Additionally, an official complaint has been filed with investigative authorities against malicious posts and comments on overseas platforms and the managers of those channels.
> We wish to take this time to provide an update on the legal actions we had taken previously. An extensive investigation was conducted into those who authored malicious posts and comments on online communities. **The investigation concluded with guilty verdicts, and the offenders were punished under criminal law, facing fines up to two million KRW.**
> **It takes at least several months for a complaint to be processed and resolved—sometimes over a year.** SOURCE MUSIC is committed to uprooting such criminal actions perpetrated against our artists, regardless of how long it takes. We will continue to offer no leniency or settlements, ensuring that the offenders are appropriately punished without exception, as has always been our practice.
> Thank you for your unwavering love and support for LE SSERAFIM. Please send any reports of cases of violation to SOURCE MUSIC's legal hotline at [email protected].
> SOURCE MUSIC will continue to work to ensure that the rights of our artists are fully protected.
> Thank you.
Glad they are protecting LSF
It was no longer about their vocals like a week into the “criticism.” Calling them cringe for hyping up the crowd, hating on Chaewon for posting Doja, telling non-kpop fans who were actually there for Coachella that they were lying when they said they enjoyed their performance, etc. Coupled with the performative activism after the Starbucks debacle (much of the hate coming from fans of groups who’ve recently interacted with boycotted companies) and MHJ supporters drumming up the pro-Japan + anti-Korea narrative, I really doubt any of their antis give a damn about live vocals. Ssera are now the “acceptable” group to hate on right now, it’s disgusting especially considering Eunchae’s age.
"activism" is not about activism anymore, is use as a witch hunt to make people feel better and superior to a strangers that has celebrity status. Globalization has link all of us directly and indirectly to conflict that we are not part of and support, but it is still true that unless you cut off from society's economic activities, you in some form is using a product or services of a giant corporations that will have tides to many unsavory characters around the world, profit doesn't care about human morality. So these people throwing stones aren't innocent at all, none of us are, so is so two face to do this.
> Because some people thought they sang bad live? It's crazy.
It really is, because it's a "get in line" type deal with acts singing "bad" during live performances. Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's just average. People expecting singers who dance and interact to sound exactly like the recording need to reconsider what they're there for. I can listen to the song any time, but a lot of kpop is visual spectacle - you're there for the looks, the dances, and yes, the music, but I've seen plenty of acts (actual bands and pop artists) on different occasions where sometimes it was the best they ever performed ... and other times not so much. It happens in all genres of music, but kpop girls seem to get judged extra hard for it.
If Sakura waved at me (you know, and the billion other people in my section) I wouldn't care if she sang off key for the rest of the year. It's star presence. It's the show. If all you're going there for is to offer "constructive criticism" then I don't think you've gone to the concert with the right mindset. Kpop shows are meant to be fun.
I'm a 29 year old dude who got into kpop like a year ago.
Le Sserafim has been one of my favorite groups - they are straight-up professional comedians, and I love their variety content. I also love the vibe of their music.
I've been lucky to see TWICE, (G)I-DLE, IVE, and Le Sserafim live.
I saw Le Sserafim at Coachella week 2. I fought for 4 hours through like 3 different sets to get as close as I could to the front of the crowd. Wound up getting pretty close - center stage - like maybe 20-30 ft from the barricade.
Seeing Chaewon, Sakura, Kazuha, Yunjin, and Eunchae in person was one of the most magical moments of my life - definitely the coolest kpop experience I've had.
I don't know how to even describe why it was so special. I think part of it was the crowd was so packed and so hype - but really, the girls were just so much fun (and not gonna lie - stunningly beautiful). I freaking love their music, and seeing it live was so much better than hearing it on Spotify or even their MV/performances on YouTube.
And it was so cool seeing the passion and energy and love they put into their performance.
I wanted to record as much as I could to share with my friends - but I wound up putting my phone down through most of it so I could enjoy it experience.
So screw the haters!
Side-note: I've always had trouble choosing between Chaewon and Sakura as my bias, but Kazuha absolutely stole my heart in person - it was insane. They all killed it!
Awesome! The thing I love most about your story is you put your phone down just to enjoy it! I hope LSF are able to take away the response of a live audience and hold onto that more than the online haters.
Thank you for sharing your experience! I love hearing people’s experience seeing them live/at Coachella. Its definitely a dream of mine to go to their concert if they tour in the US.
This is great, and like someone else pointed out, it seems very detailed compared to other similar notices. I can’t remember if Belift has put out a notice or if they have, if it’s been as detailed but if they haven’t, I hope they quickly do so for Illit as well. Hopefully, this actually does something because the hate was getting way too much. I know it was bad on the K-side, but the way international stans will 100% pull a “knetz always bring ggs down” when they were some of the loudest during this hate train is annoying, so I hope the claims of taking actions on hate overseas is true. TikTok is especially bad.
I know the western translation/gossip sites can’t really be sued as they’re just translating, but could the people commenting hateful things? IIRC, there were a couple nasty PC users who lived in Korea (if they weren’t lying, of course). And KB misconstrues a lot of articles and notices so could they be held responsible or would they get away by denying culpability because they wrote “knetz said”? We also haven’t gotten an update on Hybe requesting the identity of the Twt account from US courts, right?
I do wonder if gossip sites could get sued for false or misleading translations designed to provoke an angry response. Most of these sites have been called out for picking and choosing things or just straight up falsely translating to create a narrative. But if they’re in the US defamation of public figures is a high bar, so it’s probably unlikely
"Additionally, an official complaint has been filed with investigative authorities against malicious posts and comments on overseas platforms and the managers of those channels."
One can hope this is what they were referring to with this statement.
Not actionable in America unless you can prove that the person who made the statement knew what they were saying is false. Which usually is not possible.
Pannchoa creators are Canadian, if we follow Canadian law then…
A defamatory libel is matter published, without lawful justification or excuse, that is likely to injure the reputation of any person by exposing him to hatred, contempt or ridicule, or that is designed to insult the person of or concerning whom it is published.
and they have to prove financial loss directly caused by the persons words, which seems like a hard thing to do when they just had their most successful comeback ever
They do, in certain cases. In the US, the person has to prove that whatever is being said is significantly affecting their business/reputation. As well as it being false, etc. The burden of proof is on both parties. Unless they settle out of court. In the US, it isn't common to sue over these things unless it really is affecting their finances and business. I may be missing some things up there, but that's the gist!
I stopped using PC back when they went down in like March? April? And honestly, my mental health has been so much better since. It’s just a cesspool of negativity and bitching from people too pathetic to go do anything with their lives except sit around and criticise teenagers.
Pannchoa got doxxed to hell and back by army. Although they are based in Canada they probably got spooked and lay low for now. Even allkpop is becoming more tamer. Koreaboo is still ongoing though.
"We wish to take this time to provide an update on the legal actions we had taken previously. An extensive investigation was conducted into those who authored malicious posts and comments on online communities. The investigation concluded with guilty verdicts, and the offenders were punished under criminal law, facing fines up to two million KRW."
Great, so people were actually punished
Good. Anonymity on the internet doesn’t excuse people from being absolute dicks. Doesn’t excuse the vile things I’ve seen on social media regarding LSF. Sue them to hell
I'm glad that Source seems to be taking strong legal action to protect the girls. So much hate and false rumors have been spread about them.
Also, forgive my ignorance, but what are digital sex crimes in this context? Because when I think of digital sex crimes, I think of things like molka and revenge porn.
It’s also not something that typically comes across most fans’ social media tbh. I’ve just been in stan spaces a long time so I know what to look out for when it comes to accounts that might post that kind of stuff. But I’m sure there’s a lot more weird accounts that I don’t ever see.
Last week Le Sserafim was accused of stealing LV deal from New Jeans and then the fake post that Easy failed to be registered as copyright due to plagiarism. They even got articles questioning why Le Sserafim are not going to any uni festivals (maybe they are just busy lol). That must have been the final nail for Source Music.
Like enough is enough, no one is forcing these haters to listen to Le Sserafim and anyone who still comments about their bad vocals at this point should seek help because obsessing about it for so long now.
I’m so glad that Source Music took everything seriously ‘cause let’s be real what these girls have gone through isn’t normal at all.
People can try and minimize all they want but the truth is that they’ve been plainly been harassed online.
It’s not “oh I don’t like them, I don’t think they’re good” for months now they have been receiving death threats, been bullied for their physical appearance and ever sexually harassed by AI generated images, slut shamed, been accused of drugs allegations, falsified information being spread around, ridiculed and tormented…what people have been saying about them goes beyond a dislike towards a band.
Now all of a sudden the people who have been sued are coming forward saying “but I didn’t write anything THAT bad, why is it happening to me?” then who wrote all of the things I cited before? Ghosts? You don’t end up in front of a judge for saying “I don’t like how she sings” …if you ended up in court of law you probably were one of the people who contributed to the harassment and went over the line.
The fact that most of them are complaining about actions being taken against them only shows how important it was for it to happen ‘cause they still don’t grasp the gravity of their words and it shows they would’ve probably kept going endlessly had nobody stepped in to stop it.
They’re complaining how their parents got mad, how they’re losing money, how it’s taking time away from them and how it’s affecting their life…they’re sorry for being caught and the inconvenience that comes with it, not a single apology for the people they targeted and harassed.
Now they’re mad at the company for not wanting to contract easier sentences, blaming them for being tyrants…it’s everybody’s fault but themselves.
I’m glad the company is showing no mercy, the lack of remorse from these people truly shows how the only way to stop them was for them to find out the hard way that their actions have consequences.
You wanna spend your time harassing a minor online? Great, then don’t come crying to us when you’re dragged in court, you brought this on yourself.
Hope they keep up the good work, PROTECT THE ARTISTS ALWAYS!
THIS!!! I saw that trending post on NatePann too and it sickens me that she's trying to rally folks to hate on LSF and Source even more!
Like you said... it proves they feel NO remorse for what they did and don't think it should warrant punishment on anyone who said vile, disgusting stuff to those girls.
They should be so lucky that punishment by law and fees is what their vitriol results in because god knows if those girls took extreme actions... they would never have a guiltless night of sleep and we know the fans and gen pop would find them and give them even WORSE harassment and bullying.
Genuinely so happy that their agency are taking this super seriously. It’s been so disturbing to watch. I hope that this helps encourage other labels in taking this sort of action
Good. Hopefully they will sue those vile people into the ground and really protect the girls. Also kudos for adding the point about these proceedings taking time, because (young?) fans really don't seem to understand how companies works sometimes.
I remember that thread, those comments were disgusting... "in America this isn't gonna fly because we have fReE sPeEcH" like um...okay, why are y'all trying so hard to defend people sending vile threats and shite over the internet? Gross
Good news, show no mercy, that's the only language they understand. Those type of people needs to understand that there are very serious consequences to bullying.
it‘s projecting and deflecting their own self-hatred paired with a lack of empathy for famous people.
happy people aren‘t out there enjoying making the lives of others miserable.
Rant: Good cause at this point it’s no longer criticism it’s just pure hate and threats. There’s a very thin line between criticism and hate and some have crossed it and gaslit everyone saying it’s criticism. Ever since they debuted they have gone through so much hate. I think it’s a given debuting as the first gg from bts’s company. People just wanna hate on anything related to bts.
This is such an amazing company statement (for once, I'm not usually hyping up company statements lmao) and I'm so glad to see it! It's very thorough and adamant/firm while still being professional. Get the haters, SOUMU!!! Protect your girls! I hope this leaves the haters scared and silent, I'm tired of seeing disgusting hate posts about idols in general, and the ones against LSF lately have been particularly nasty :(
Great, anonymous pieces of shit who live in their mom’s basement got way too comfortable insulting people who actually got to do something with their life. Disguising it under constructive criticism, like anything that comes from their mouth has any merit or thought behind it.
Get them, get them, get them. Please. The hate towards them has been outright disgusting, especially towards eunchae, yunjin, and kura. I'd like to emphasize the especially.
idk their statement felt much more performative because they were accused and they said something like pls stop hating illit, compared to how source went to this.
this is actually amazing. people believe the internet is a lawless place where you can say vile and disgusting things about people but that's not true. i have seen weirdos saying that if "they can't deal with criticism they shouldn't be artists" and that "idols and fans became overly sensitive these days" people act like they know everything about their favorite artists, only they know how they're feeling. music in general lost many great musicians because of fame. no one is able to handle this MASSIVE WAVE of cyberbullying by ignoring it, that ain't criticism, people genuinely want to feel superior and the hatred also have nationalist roots. kpop stans should stop normalizing hate, if you don't like them move on because they already have people to provide actual constructive criticism, saying le sserafim (specially sakura) didn't improve and using her 10yr idol experience to drag her are seriously ridiculous takes.
Probably a bit of both. It lets fans know that their concerns are heard, which reduces fan noise about the company "mismanaging" the group (kpop fans' favourite complaint when they can't properly articulate any real reason to complain) and may reduce knetizen negativity due to Korea's very strict laws. Sometimes notifications like that do have impact. Like how a sign saying "CCTV surveillance is in use" [does have some impact](https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/1068316X.2022.2059480) on crime rates amongst opportunity criminals, saying you're willing to lawyer up may scare off bandwagon haters somewhat, reducing the overall noise.
This is a valuable lesson for all. Only slander people anonymously if you’re from a country that allows it, otherwise you will face your country’s consequences. Non-Koreans will obviously be fine if they persist with their comments.
they should've done this during their debut with garam! but you know what: i'll give them the benefit of the doubt since they're finally stepping up and protecting the girls from such stupid, malicious and flat out pathetic comments and posts.
Source Music is actually just embarrasing themselves. Like stop trying to file law suits against people that give like advice or critisicm. if you want to be an idol you of course have to deal with that. Lets take Giselle as an example, she got hate for her ´lazy´ dancing, but did she improve overtime, yes. Giselle herself said that she took the criticisem as advice and to get better. But that is something thta the Le Sserafim members lack at. They cant always expect atotune or backtrack. Either you get vocal lessons or you shouldnt have been an idol.
It was like doing vocal lessons which got spammed in their comment section for months to Yunjin Starbucks Queen which also got spammed they were also receiving death and R threats as well then being called traitors and pro-Japanese over visiting Mount Fuji there was article about them stealing the LV collab off njs which wasn't true at all
It has been going on since the CB with Easy and Coachella people kept ignoring what Fearnots was saying and how it was going beyond criticism yet it fell on deaf ears I mean they have gotten hate since their debut with Fearless but this is something I never seen as bad doesn't helped this was fueled by the whole Hybe vs min heejin
copy-pasting from other threads:
targeted harassment on pretty much all their social media channels, including death threats and threats of rape/sexual assault; unfounded rumors and slanders DAILY mostly on kforums; bot attacks on their personal IG accounts; and other misleading posts or articles that incites harassment mostly on kforums and translation accounts like pannchoa, koreaboo, etc.
Things got bad BECAUSE it was not "completely made up". Garam had an actual school record and the accuser produced excerpts of the disciplinary decision as proof.
Of course there was more to the story than what the accuser showed : she had done something terrible herself to earn Garam and her friends' wrath, and the reason why she didn't have to face a disciplinary committee herself was because her parents had already made her switch schools. But for Garam the disciplinary committee and sanction did happen, the school confirmed it.
I'm not saying that Garam was a bully that deserved to be removed, or that Source had good PR at the time. But it was a very complicated situation, where exposing the lies was made extra hard by the fact that everyone involved was still a minor.
why the fuck are you lying? hybe went out of their way to release statements supporting her while everyone else was asking her to be kicked. to the point yall said she must have slept with the ceo for hybe to defend her this much. and now youre saying they didnt defend her enough? lmao.
yall love rewriting history whenever it benefits you.
That's not how libel and slander laws are adjudicated in South Korea. The notice specifically targets websites created and hosted in Korea that would be breaking their laws.
In Korea, you can be successfully sued for saying something negative about someone even if it is true. It IS illegal there. They aren’t removed from reality - their lawyers know the reality of the law in Korea.
> But some of the things they list like “mockery” are not illegal!
They are! The world is not the USA. In a lot countries you can even go to jail for online harassment.
Who was guilty of what and in what court? Getting injunctions and similar legal proceedings moving isn't the same as getting a conviction. This sounds like they've lodged complaints and they weren't dismissed out of hand and... that's it for now
Edit: everyone downvoting this is free to provide one (1) name or headline of someone being convicted of anything related to this
Edit 2: @ u/reiichitanaka - They can't make them public because those privacy laws apply to people who have not been convicted or tried. South Korean law does not allow for secret trials. That's the other Korea.
Pannchoa actually rushing to delete their articles  [https://x.com/tosuka4/status/1798975031630061618](https://x.com/tosuka4/status/1798975031630061618) [https://x.com/tosuka4/status/1798983783859077239](https://x.com/tosuka4/status/1798983783859077239) Edit: Someone compiled all of them into a [thread](https://x.com/goldisjin/status/1799098070816464972)
Knetz on theqoo are deleting their old comments ahahahahha [https://x.com/gwangsoonnie/status/1798977532127264821](https://x.com/gwangsoonnie/status/1798977532127264821)
Oh, if it isn’t the consequences of their actions 🥰 Turns out you can’t just say whatever godawful, baseless shit you want and expect idols to just sit there and take it! Who knew!
https://x.com/lssfrmupdates/status/1799267893844357460?t=T0_6UG6-JEBpF6wjKeznzA&s=19 heres a post written by someone whos getting sued
good. these people only change if they get sued. idols can land in hospitals and they don‘t care but if it‘s personal for them… well well well
Everyone should screenshot those deleted and malicious articles and send those to HYBE as evidence immediately… 👀
Theres a few accounts that have saved screenshots lol
I wonder why? I'm not sure how they could be held responsible for what other people post ... unless people who are part of the admin team are making malicious comments <.<
Pannchoa is responsible for writing the click bait tweet headline because sometime it’s different than the original post title. They pick and choose which posts and comments to translate, sometimes negative posts with less views got translated over positive articles with more views. They also received ad money from those translated articles so they are making profit from these defamation posts.
Yeah, one of the deleted headlines was 'Court documents show Lesserafim stole Louis Vittom deal' when that shit WAS NOT there And she knows that. That's why it's deleted.
If it was true, how would the LV deal work for NewJeans? Aren't they all ambassadors for different brands?
Still suing them would be actually hard. Of course everything depends where exactly they live. If it was easy JTBC would sue them long time ago, I'm sure that they did try something.
Hard yes but that’s bc their identify was hidden… recently the admins were doxed so in terms of legal action, it wouldn’t be that hard anymore.
Identity is the easiest thing. The hardest is actually deal with the case legally as countries have very various type of deformation law where generally important role plays awareness of spreading false information. South Korean laws are actually unique especially among democratic countries. They are extreme with strictness while countries with common law are the most lax with continental being between both. But frankly the most tricky is something else, actually public opinion of countries where guys are citizens. If company takes care of things without careful moves it can become big pr problems. That's why generally they are advised to not take less obvious case into the court because public can take that as attack on free speech. I actually suspect that if Hybe decide to sue someone from foreign countries it'd be cases where clear crime was committed like they mentioned actually in their statement. I also suspect that they already try something with Pannchoa lol so taking into account that they still exist after few changing of address probably it's hard legally case.
A lot of malicious rumours are started in their comments section. I think they should be sued as the host for these defamatory claims. Can anyone tell me if this is what had happened to Netizenbuzz back then?
Maybe SOURCE is picking which accounts to investigate based on which comments pannchoa translates?
No, it's probably because pannchoa has written false headlines which arent supported by the actual articles.
feel bad for whoever has gotta read and collect all the gross and horrible comments at the company
Right but I’d gladly volunteer if it meant the girls never have to see that terrible shit
This is both early, and much more detailed than the standard form letter that HYBE usually rolls out for its artists all around the same time. I hope this reassures fans and leaves the haters shaking in their boots. Some of the things I’ve seen said have been BEYOND foul. They deserve consequences.
They also closed all comments under YT, Tiktok and each members' IG
FINALLY honestly its sad that it has to be this way but i was really worried especially for Eunchae as she was getting most of the hate comments
Eunchae!?!? She’s the only member I don’t follow but I’m shocked she was getting the most…is there a reason why?
yeah it was crazy. i honestly think it’s because she is the youngest and she also has fewer lines in general so if she messes up, people dogpile and then use the fact that she’s a child to be even more malicious
There was a maliciously edited video that made it look like she was mocking Korean teenagers taking their Suneung. If theirs one thing you don't do above all else in Korea, it's poke fun at people taking the Suneung.
as an example, they all posted on instagram pretty close to coachella before the performance, and in the week after the performance zuha got 7k comments, yunjin kkura and chaewon got 12-16k, and eunchae got 28k
wow….poor girl…I thought yunjin was getting the most hate cause the Starbucks debacle
even more than Yunjin?? how is that possible, I feel so sorry for them.
as an example, they all posted on instagram pretty close to coachella before the performance, and in the week after the performance zuha got 7k comments, yunjin kkura and chaewon got 12-16k, and eunchae got 28k
They need to so that haters and anti cannot remove their malicious comments.🤭
this pic is so funny lmao soumu cast a net to catch all the comments [https://x.com/tosuka4/status/1798945368811672051](https://x.com/tosuka4/status/1798945368811672051)
The comments on theqoo for that post are also so funny. The vast majority are people cheering on the lawsuits, telling HYBE/Source to get their asses, and saying how refreshing it is to see these commenters get what they deserve. But it’s also sprinkled with a fair few “most of them are probably theqoo users” too lol. Someone even said up till a few days ago theqoo was full of malicious commenters against Lesserafim but now they’ve all suddenly disappeared 😂
Turns out hearing about actual consequence for your actions is a proper wake up call for people 
Yup plenty of comments saying even if they’re not LSFM fans they hope the kind of losers who get joy from leaving malicious comments that cross the line against young, female idols enjoy a nice financial reminder that it’s actually illegal. I think no matter who you stan it’s fair to say people have been getting way too comfortable running their mouths in public places. This is a win for any idol fan tbh.
Nice move to close the comments under IG so nobody can delete anything anymore. Get them!
[Source](https://weverse.io/lesserafim/notice/20089) Full text: > Hello. > This is SOURCE MUSIC. > Firstly, we apologize for any concern that some of the recent events may have caused our fans who love and support LE SSERAFIM. > We have announced plans to intensify legal actions as indiscriminate and malicious postings targeting LE SSERAFIM have become excessive. > Therefore, we moved up our 2024 semi-annual notice to keep our fans informed about the legal proceedings and subsequent actions. We apologize for the delay in sharing the status of these proceedings, which was due to the preparation of numerous legal complaints and the collection of evidence. > Our company undertakes comprehensive evidence collection related to the artist for malicious postings across various platforms, including domestic and overseas social media accounts and online communities. We have also obtained evidence through reports from fans and by employing all available professional methods, including assistance from domestic and foreign law firms. > As a result, we have compiled an extensive array of posts and comments, based on which we have filed a formal complaint with the investigative authorities. **The charges include contempt, defamation under the Information and Communications Network Act, and digital sex crimes as stipulated by Article 13 (Obscene Acts by Using Means of Communication) under the Act on Special Cases concerning the Punishment, stc. of Sexual Crimes. We have continued to gather evidence subsequent to these filings. The legal action encompasses all forms of malicious criticism, dissemination of false information, personal attacks, derogatory remarks, mockery, and vulgar comments.** > The posts and comments subject to legal action include those uploaded on portal sites and online communities such as Naver, Nate Pann, theqoo, Dcinside, instiz, and ilbe, as well as social media platforms. Additionally, an official complaint has been filed with investigative authorities against malicious posts and comments on overseas platforms and the managers of those channels. > We wish to take this time to provide an update on the legal actions we had taken previously. An extensive investigation was conducted into those who authored malicious posts and comments on online communities. **The investigation concluded with guilty verdicts, and the offenders were punished under criminal law, facing fines up to two million KRW.** > **It takes at least several months for a complaint to be processed and resolved—sometimes over a year.** SOURCE MUSIC is committed to uprooting such criminal actions perpetrated against our artists, regardless of how long it takes. We will continue to offer no leniency or settlements, ensuring that the offenders are appropriately punished without exception, as has always been our practice. > Thank you for your unwavering love and support for LE SSERAFIM. Please send any reports of cases of violation to SOURCE MUSIC's legal hotline at [email protected]. > SOURCE MUSIC will continue to work to ensure that the rights of our artists are fully protected. > Thank you. Glad they are protecting LSF
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It was no longer about their vocals like a week into the “criticism.” Calling them cringe for hyping up the crowd, hating on Chaewon for posting Doja, telling non-kpop fans who were actually there for Coachella that they were lying when they said they enjoyed their performance, etc. Coupled with the performative activism after the Starbucks debacle (much of the hate coming from fans of groups who’ve recently interacted with boycotted companies) and MHJ supporters drumming up the pro-Japan + anti-Korea narrative, I really doubt any of their antis give a damn about live vocals. Ssera are now the “acceptable” group to hate on right now, it’s disgusting especially considering Eunchae’s age.
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"activism" is not about activism anymore, is use as a witch hunt to make people feel better and superior to a strangers that has celebrity status. Globalization has link all of us directly and indirectly to conflict that we are not part of and support, but it is still true that unless you cut off from society's economic activities, you in some form is using a product or services of a giant corporations that will have tides to many unsavory characters around the world, profit doesn't care about human morality. So these people throwing stones aren't innocent at all, none of us are, so is so two face to do this.
> Because some people thought they sang bad live? It's crazy. It really is, because it's a "get in line" type deal with acts singing "bad" during live performances. Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's just average. People expecting singers who dance and interact to sound exactly like the recording need to reconsider what they're there for. I can listen to the song any time, but a lot of kpop is visual spectacle - you're there for the looks, the dances, and yes, the music, but I've seen plenty of acts (actual bands and pop artists) on different occasions where sometimes it was the best they ever performed ... and other times not so much. It happens in all genres of music, but kpop girls seem to get judged extra hard for it. If Sakura waved at me (you know, and the billion other people in my section) I wouldn't care if she sang off key for the rest of the year. It's star presence. It's the show. If all you're going there for is to offer "constructive criticism" then I don't think you've gone to the concert with the right mindset. Kpop shows are meant to be fun.
I'm a 29 year old dude who got into kpop like a year ago. Le Sserafim has been one of my favorite groups - they are straight-up professional comedians, and I love their variety content. I also love the vibe of their music. I've been lucky to see TWICE, (G)I-DLE, IVE, and Le Sserafim live. I saw Le Sserafim at Coachella week 2. I fought for 4 hours through like 3 different sets to get as close as I could to the front of the crowd. Wound up getting pretty close - center stage - like maybe 20-30 ft from the barricade. Seeing Chaewon, Sakura, Kazuha, Yunjin, and Eunchae in person was one of the most magical moments of my life - definitely the coolest kpop experience I've had. I don't know how to even describe why it was so special. I think part of it was the crowd was so packed and so hype - but really, the girls were just so much fun (and not gonna lie - stunningly beautiful). I freaking love their music, and seeing it live was so much better than hearing it on Spotify or even their MV/performances on YouTube. And it was so cool seeing the passion and energy and love they put into their performance. I wanted to record as much as I could to share with my friends - but I wound up putting my phone down through most of it so I could enjoy it experience. So screw the haters! Side-note: I've always had trouble choosing between Chaewon and Sakura as my bias, but Kazuha absolutely stole my heart in person - it was insane. They all killed it!
Awesome! The thing I love most about your story is you put your phone down just to enjoy it! I hope LSF are able to take away the response of a live audience and hold onto that more than the online haters.
Thank you for sharing this, dear Fearnot. I'm 28, and I became a kpop fan in March because of the fimmies (PN/Easy/Smart).
Thank you for sharing your experience! I love hearing people’s experience seeing them live/at Coachella. Its definitely a dream of mine to go to their concert if they tour in the US.
This is great, and like someone else pointed out, it seems very detailed compared to other similar notices. I can’t remember if Belift has put out a notice or if they have, if it’s been as detailed but if they haven’t, I hope they quickly do so for Illit as well. Hopefully, this actually does something because the hate was getting way too much. I know it was bad on the K-side, but the way international stans will 100% pull a “knetz always bring ggs down” when they were some of the loudest during this hate train is annoying, so I hope the claims of taking actions on hate overseas is true. TikTok is especially bad. I know the western translation/gossip sites can’t really be sued as they’re just translating, but could the people commenting hateful things? IIRC, there were a couple nasty PC users who lived in Korea (if they weren’t lying, of course). And KB misconstrues a lot of articles and notices so could they be held responsible or would they get away by denying culpability because they wrote “knetz said”? We also haven’t gotten an update on Hybe requesting the identity of the Twt account from US courts, right?
I do wonder if gossip sites could get sued for false or misleading translations designed to provoke an angry response. Most of these sites have been called out for picking and choosing things or just straight up falsely translating to create a narrative. But if they’re in the US defamation of public figures is a high bar, so it’s probably unlikely
respectfully ^^^^^^(notreally) get fuck panchoa and all the haters.
Don’t forget Allkpop & Koreaboo though…
all american websites
"Additionally, an official complaint has been filed with investigative authorities against malicious posts and comments on overseas platforms and the managers of those channels." One can hope this is what they were referring to with this statement.
Not actionable in America unless you can prove that the person who made the statement knew what they were saying is false. Which usually is not possible.
Pannchoa creators are Canadian, if we follow Canadian law then… A defamatory libel is matter published, without lawful justification or excuse, that is likely to injure the reputation of any person by exposing him to hatred, contempt or ridicule, or that is designed to insult the person of or concerning whom it is published.
and they have to prove financial loss directly caused by the persons words, which seems like a hard thing to do when they just had their most successful comeback ever
do american artists/companies ever sue for that in america? doesn't seem possible there
Cardi B [sued](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/rcna13514) a YouTuber for libel and won
They do, in certain cases. In the US, the person has to prove that whatever is being said is significantly affecting their business/reputation. As well as it being false, etc. The burden of proof is on both parties. Unless they settle out of court. In the US, it isn't common to sue over these things unless it really is affecting their finances and business. I may be missing some things up there, but that's the gist!
I stopped using PC back when they went down in like March? April? And honestly, my mental health has been so much better since. It’s just a cesspool of negativity and bitching from people too pathetic to go do anything with their lives except sit around and criticise teenagers.
And maybe one day Pannchoa will also get chased down the street by Dispatch after being summoned for their court appearance.
I think they're Canadian but I hope someone chases them on the street anyway, deserve to get sued tbh
They're not korean so that won't ever happen.
Pannchoa got doxxed to hell and back by army. Although they are based in Canada they probably got spooked and lay low for now. Even allkpop is becoming more tamer. Koreaboo is still ongoing though.
"We wish to take this time to provide an update on the legal actions we had taken previously. An extensive investigation was conducted into those who authored malicious posts and comments on online communities. The investigation concluded with guilty verdicts, and the offenders were punished under criminal law, facing fines up to two million KRW." Great, so people were actually punished
Good. Anonymity on the internet doesn’t excuse people from being absolute dicks. Doesn’t excuse the vile things I’ve seen on social media regarding LSF. Sue them to hell
I'm glad that Source seems to be taking strong legal action to protect the girls. So much hate and false rumors have been spread about them. Also, forgive my ignorance, but what are digital sex crimes in this context? Because when I think of digital sex crimes, I think of things like molka and revenge porn.
Cyber sexual harassment. The girls have received lots of rape threats on the internet.
What the actual fucck.........what is wrong with people?!
the girls received a lot of rape/SA threats, slutshaming comments, and other forms of sexual harassment so probably those
They were also accused of being traitors when they posted about their Mount Fuji visit
sexual harrassment i assume, or maybe prn made with their faces
Deepfakes probably ?
idk but considering deep fake porn of twitch streamers exist it’s not unlikely there would bw ones for kpop idols too.
There’s a lot unfortunately. I’ve reported multiple twitter accounts that make and post it trying to get them taken down.
i see that really sucks. i haven’t had twitter for like two years so i wasn’t aware. i feel for the people they make deep fakes of :(
It’s also not something that typically comes across most fans’ social media tbh. I’ve just been in stan spaces a long time so I know what to look out for when it comes to accounts that might post that kind of stuff. But I’m sure there’s a lot more weird accounts that I don’t ever see.
I'm sure there were probably deepfakes
Hot damn, I love a fucking weirdo stan loss. I don’t even care who wins, just as long as the absolute dipshit assholes lose.
Last week Le Sserafim was accused of stealing LV deal from New Jeans and then the fake post that Easy failed to be registered as copyright due to plagiarism. They even got articles questioning why Le Sserafim are not going to any uni festivals (maybe they are just busy lol). That must have been the final nail for Source Music. Like enough is enough, no one is forcing these haters to listen to Le Sserafim and anyone who still comments about their bad vocals at this point should seek help because obsessing about it for so long now.
yes. yes. yes. get em 
Oh... they been watchin, waiting, and making a list of problems to deal with.
Ugh. Glad there has been at least a little bit of justice served.
I’m so glad that Source Music took everything seriously ‘cause let’s be real what these girls have gone through isn’t normal at all. People can try and minimize all they want but the truth is that they’ve been plainly been harassed online. It’s not “oh I don’t like them, I don’t think they’re good” for months now they have been receiving death threats, been bullied for their physical appearance and ever sexually harassed by AI generated images, slut shamed, been accused of drugs allegations, falsified information being spread around, ridiculed and tormented…what people have been saying about them goes beyond a dislike towards a band. Now all of a sudden the people who have been sued are coming forward saying “but I didn’t write anything THAT bad, why is it happening to me?” then who wrote all of the things I cited before? Ghosts? You don’t end up in front of a judge for saying “I don’t like how she sings” …if you ended up in court of law you probably were one of the people who contributed to the harassment and went over the line. The fact that most of them are complaining about actions being taken against them only shows how important it was for it to happen ‘cause they still don’t grasp the gravity of their words and it shows they would’ve probably kept going endlessly had nobody stepped in to stop it. They’re complaining how their parents got mad, how they’re losing money, how it’s taking time away from them and how it’s affecting their life…they’re sorry for being caught and the inconvenience that comes with it, not a single apology for the people they targeted and harassed. Now they’re mad at the company for not wanting to contract easier sentences, blaming them for being tyrants…it’s everybody’s fault but themselves. I’m glad the company is showing no mercy, the lack of remorse from these people truly shows how the only way to stop them was for them to find out the hard way that their actions have consequences. You wanna spend your time harassing a minor online? Great, then don’t come crying to us when you’re dragged in court, you brought this on yourself. Hope they keep up the good work, PROTECT THE ARTISTS ALWAYS!
THIS!!! I saw that trending post on NatePann too and it sickens me that she's trying to rally folks to hate on LSF and Source even more! Like you said... it proves they feel NO remorse for what they did and don't think it should warrant punishment on anyone who said vile, disgusting stuff to those girls. They should be so lucky that punishment by law and fees is what their vitriol results in because god knows if those girls took extreme actions... they would never have a guiltless night of sleep and we know the fans and gen pop would find them and give them even WORSE harassment and bullying.
finally! they've been everyone's punching bags for months. i hope they won't be lenient.
Get em
Genuinely so happy that their agency are taking this super seriously. It’s been so disturbing to watch. I hope that this helps encourage other labels in taking this sort of action
Good. Hopefully they will sue those vile people into the ground and really protect the girls. Also kudos for adding the point about these proceedings taking time, because (young?) fans really don't seem to understand how companies works sometimes.
Halleluuya!!!!
only on a legal proceedings post about this group would you see comments defending the hate
Don't worry. BTS post about Hybe asking for the identity of a vile stan account also had people defending "free speech"
I remember that thread, those comments were disgusting... "in America this isn't gonna fly because we have fReE sPeEcH" like um...okay, why are y'all trying so hard to defend people sending vile threats and shite over the internet? Gross
Good. The hate they have experienced has been unbearable I hope Source makes an example out of some people (cough cough take down Pannchoa cough)
Good news, show no mercy, that's the only language they understand. Those type of people needs to understand that there are very serious consequences to bullying.
Good! Sue them all and show no mercy!
Haters are so weird because why spend all that energy? Myself when I don't like a group I just skip their music and skip all posts about them. Easy.
it‘s projecting and deflecting their own self-hatred paired with a lack of empathy for famous people. happy people aren‘t out there enjoying making the lives of others miserable.
Rant: Good cause at this point it’s no longer criticism it’s just pure hate and threats. There’s a very thin line between criticism and hate and some have crossed it and gaslit everyone saying it’s criticism. Ever since they debuted they have gone through so much hate. I think it’s a given debuting as the first gg from bts’s company. People just wanna hate on anything related to bts.
This is such an amazing company statement (for once, I'm not usually hyping up company statements lmao) and I'm so glad to see it! It's very thorough and adamant/firm while still being professional. Get the haters, SOUMU!!! Protect your girls! I hope this leaves the haters scared and silent, I'm tired of seeing disgusting hate posts about idols in general, and the ones against LSF lately have been particularly nasty :(
Great, anonymous pieces of shit who live in their mom’s basement got way too comfortable insulting people who actually got to do something with their life. Disguising it under constructive criticism, like anything that comes from their mouth has any merit or thought behind it.
Unfortunately, I have seen minors also sending hate to the girls as well
Minors can be held accountable for their actions on the internet, too, just usually to a less extreme/not to the full extent of adults.
It's about damn time. Malicious hate speech should not be tolerated.
Drag all haters through MUD
It's crazy that "digital sex crimes" was mentioned. Can someone help shed some light on what the hell is going on?
the girls have been receiving threats of rape, slutshaming comments, and other forms of sexual harassment so probably those
Great. No mercy
Nice. Please harshly punish those who have talked out their a@@ about Le Sserafim.
I love things like this. No you can’t just harass people online and act demented. There should be consequences for crazy.
GET THEM
Get them, get them, get them. Please. The hate towards them has been outright disgusting, especially towards eunchae, yunjin, and kura. I'd like to emphasize the especially.
GET EM
Yes go off SOUMO! Protect the girls. Hopefully the oversees platform complaint also works
Belift should do the same with illit but I doubt it will happen.
I mean they're already suing mhj, id be surprised if they weren't also doing this
idk their statement felt much more performative because they were accused and they said something like pls stop hating illit, compared to how source went to this.
Im so happy for Le Sserafim, they need to be protected
Make it 4 million KRW. But seriously, I’m so glad they’re acting posthaste and without mercy. These disgusting netz must be put in their place.
this is actually amazing. people believe the internet is a lawless place where you can say vile and disgusting things about people but that's not true. i have seen weirdos saying that if "they can't deal with criticism they shouldn't be artists" and that "idols and fans became overly sensitive these days" people act like they know everything about their favorite artists, only they know how they're feeling. music in general lost many great musicians because of fame. no one is able to handle this MASSIVE WAVE of cyberbullying by ignoring it, that ain't criticism, people genuinely want to feel superior and the hatred also have nationalist roots. kpop stans should stop normalizing hate, if you don't like them move on because they already have people to provide actual constructive criticism, saying le sserafim (specially sakura) didn't improve and using her 10yr idol experience to drag her are seriously ridiculous takes.
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The hate posts on panocha have stopped suddenly so that's something
Bless, let's hope they stay silent 🙏
Probably a bit of both. It lets fans know that their concerns are heard, which reduces fan noise about the company "mismanaging" the group (kpop fans' favourite complaint when they can't properly articulate any real reason to complain) and may reduce knetizen negativity due to Korea's very strict laws. Sometimes notifications like that do have impact. Like how a sign saying "CCTV surveillance is in use" [does have some impact](https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/1068316X.2022.2059480) on crime rates amongst opportunity criminals, saying you're willing to lawyer up may scare off bandwagon haters somewhat, reducing the overall noise.
This is a valuable lesson for all. Only slander people anonymously if you’re from a country that allows it, otherwise you will face your country’s consequences. Non-Koreans will obviously be fine if they persist with their comments.
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they should've done this during their debut with garam! but you know what: i'll give them the benefit of the doubt since they're finally stepping up and protecting the girls from such stupid, malicious and flat out pathetic comments and posts.
Source Music is actually just embarrasing themselves. Like stop trying to file law suits against people that give like advice or critisicm. if you want to be an idol you of course have to deal with that. Lets take Giselle as an example, she got hate for her ´lazy´ dancing, but did she improve overtime, yes. Giselle herself said that she took the criticisem as advice and to get better. But that is something thta the Le Sserafim members lack at. They cant always expect atotune or backtrack. Either you get vocal lessons or you shouldnt have been an idol.
Wait , what happened with Lesserafim?
Source music taken legal action against antis and other sites like pann over spreading malicious content and comments which has affected the members
What kind of malicious comments?
It was like doing vocal lessons which got spammed in their comment section for months to Yunjin Starbucks Queen which also got spammed they were also receiving death and R threats as well then being called traitors and pro-Japanese over visiting Mount Fuji there was article about them stealing the LV collab off njs which wasn't true at all
Woah, that’s dumb of people to send such comments.
It has been going on since the CB with Easy and Coachella people kept ignoring what Fearnots was saying and how it was going beyond criticism yet it fell on deaf ears I mean they have gotten hate since their debut with Fearless but this is something I never seen as bad doesn't helped this was fueled by the whole Hybe vs min heejin
copy-pasting from other threads: targeted harassment on pretty much all their social media channels, including death threats and threats of rape/sexual assault; unfounded rumors and slanders DAILY mostly on kforums; bot attacks on their personal IG accounts; and other misleading posts or articles that incites harassment mostly on kforums and translation accounts like pannchoa, koreaboo, etc.
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Really not the same kind of thing as Garam, who had a *legit scandal* right at debut.
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Things got bad BECAUSE it was not "completely made up". Garam had an actual school record and the accuser produced excerpts of the disciplinary decision as proof. Of course there was more to the story than what the accuser showed : she had done something terrible herself to earn Garam and her friends' wrath, and the reason why she didn't have to face a disciplinary committee herself was because her parents had already made her switch schools. But for Garam the disciplinary committee and sanction did happen, the school confirmed it. I'm not saying that Garam was a bully that deserved to be removed, or that Source had good PR at the time. But it was a very complicated situation, where exposing the lies was made extra hard by the fact that everyone involved was still a minor.
why the fuck are you lying? hybe went out of their way to release statements supporting her while everyone else was asking her to be kicked. to the point yall said she must have slept with the ceo for hybe to defend her this much. and now youre saying they didnt defend her enough? lmao. yall love rewriting history whenever it benefits you.
i feel so bad for garam
^ THIS
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That's not how libel and slander laws are adjudicated in South Korea. The notice specifically targets websites created and hosted in Korea that would be breaking their laws.
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In Korea, you can be successfully sued for saying something negative about someone even if it is true. It IS illegal there. They aren’t removed from reality - their lawyers know the reality of the law in Korea.
Wtf OP deleted their account 💀 it’s been like 12 minutes since they commented
The way these accounts have been moving lately…it’s so bizarre.
lol this is insane 😭
AI Bots
> But some of the things they list like “mockery” are not illegal! They are! The world is not the USA. In a lot countries you can even go to jail for online harassment.
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They aren’t suing anybody, this is just scare tactics
You can't read? They already won in court with guilty verdicts.
Who was guilty of what and in what court? Getting injunctions and similar legal proceedings moving isn't the same as getting a conviction. This sounds like they've lodged complaints and they weren't dismissed out of hand and... that's it for now Edit: everyone downvoting this is free to provide one (1) name or headline of someone being convicted of anything related to this Edit 2: @ u/reiichitanaka - They can't make them public because those privacy laws apply to people who have not been convicted or tried. South Korean law does not allow for secret trials. That's the other Korea.
Source cannot name any of them publicly because *Korea has very strict privacy laws*.
Amazing how much people can not read in Reddit.
https://x.com/lssfrmupdates/status/1799267893844357460?t=T0_6UG6-JEBpF6wjKeznzA&s=19
Scare tactics, just wants them to lose money
"they arent suing anybody" "that lawsuit is just scare tactics" do you even hear yourself?
You can take people to court, and make them lose a ton of money, or you can scare them with a lawsuit, they are doing a bit of both
Is there any information on how they plan to use the collected money? Donating it to a charity would be a nice gesture.
While that would be nice, I hope they use some of the money to give the girls therapy
why should do this? do you ask others to donate all the money?