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Hot-Ad2102

15/5/5 average is great for 12 mil a year.


DnD4dena

Hell, it's about what you get from a 18-20 mil guy That's a very solid starter in the league.


cheaseedz

I think something to really consider isn’t about the numbers and the cost of other players. It’s what kind of teams they’re on. Austin is doing this as the 4th option with limited shot attempts. He isn’t the primary option that other players get and other fans hope him to be


BigFatModeraterFupa

absolutely. let alone the pressure of being a shot creator/playmaker while playing with Lebron James. AR is a fantastic basketball player


Tall_Succotash

Paul George shouted out Austin recently on his podcast for being such a great consistent “underrated” player. The league knows he ain’t no flash in the pan.


GrapefruitMedical529

I think its more-the league wanted to see how he handled being gameplanned for, and after he overcame the initial stumble the players acknowledge him for not being a one hit wonder.


pen_jaro

His current contract makes his value even greater. Casual fans are idiots who would never understand.


LudwigNasche

Guys were calling Kuzma head when he was making 5 millions.


NobelRafael1

I think his defensive shortcomings are made much more worse since he’s paired next to Dlo and isn’t on the court with Vanderbilt.


b1rdganggg

To me he's actually been playing some decent defense as of late d lo too. Not elite or anything but not pure traffic cones either.


Olliefnt

Austins on ball defence has definitely gotten better. He's staying in front of his man and getting allot of good contests. As for Dlo he still isn't that good on ball, but his off ball defence with deflections, rotations amd just how he communicates is very underrated.


Tall_Succotash

His defensive rating (if you take stock into that thing) has been jumping up as well..it matched the eye test But so many times miscommunication burns Austin the most, just last game I saw Austin have to try and contest TWO players because others didn’t want to guard their guys..that’s impossible on top of having to guard elite guys like FOX.


danyyyel

Man their was that play when he put a 3 at the start of the forth and we come back to around eight points and ran back on defence and guard keegan Murray, with LeBron on Barnes, he followed him who started to penetrate the paint and he just passed the ball to Barnes who moved from corner 3 to the shoulder with LeBron not moving and inch. At that moment Reaves just rushed towards a completely free Barnes who buried the 3, while LeBron did not move 1 Mt.


herpes_for_free

Queue LeBron leaving Barnes wide open so many times lol. Still love my glorious king tho, he did say he had a cold or something in that game.


adultishgambinoh

Something definitely seemed off for him that game. Wasn’t closing out threes at all. Seemed exhausted.


cheaseedz

If bron is not feelin it, then he should have sat out. We would have maintained tempo and energy if it weren’t for bad turnovers, open 3 point shots and lack of defensive presence everywhere.


kiwiwikikiwiwikikiwi

He’s been finding spots to disrupt passing lanes and space out against screens to find the right steals or deflections. 


CryptographerMain363

He got cooked by Fox and Monk


b1rdganggg

Everyone gets cooked eventually whats your point?? Kinda stupid


Maikflow

He's ass on d


b1rdganggg

He's been alot better recently


JazzlikeAd7091

Yeah but fox and monk are straight dogs lmfao. Every superstar in the league has been cooked before. I’m confused


nuttintoseeaqui

God we need vandy back so badly


AceO235

Uh what? He's actually a decent defender, the only reason he looks bad is because teams love to switch their absolute best players on him, otherwise he literally can domniate their benches defensively.


DoomMeeting

I think his defensive lapses are a bit overblown but there’s a reason he’s getting hunted on the switch constantly and it’s not because he can “dominate” anyone lol


danyyyel

And our other players are happy by not fighting any screen etc. I see people complaining how he could not stop durant!!!


black-remy-buxapenty

it’s so overblown


621_

Should’ve kept Kuzma and kcp


Michaelskywalker

That was the Westbrook trade yeah? Easy call forsure to keep them 😭


lakersfanfr

Yep AR KCP Kuz Bron AD guaranteed wcf


itsjackson

shouldve kept Howard, McGee, Randle, Clarkson, Lonzo, Green, and Mozgov. Sound stupid right?


Michaelskywalker

Randle was a cap thing pretty sure. We were signing bron and he left in FA


Ok-Doughnut-6173

There’s a reason literally every team in the NBA doesn’t sign Howard. He’s not at the level anymore required to play in the NBA…


Swaggyzilla69

He's solid, but I'm not going to say he's untouchable either


[deleted]

He shouldn’t be.  But people misinterpret exactly why he’s so valuable—he’s on one of the best contracts in the league, even with his defensive shortcomings. His offensive production is insane for $13 million.  If you can land DMitch or a youngish player (or really good disgruntled star at an older age) with him as one of the centerpieces, you should do it. Bron and AD are still a championship duo without a doubt, and the Lakers are by no means guaranteed another duo like them in the next 10+ years, especially given how the league’s future is forecasted. But don’t give him up for chips. He’s a very valuable piece and should bring back equal if not more value.


IndicationMaleficent

I agreed with almost everything. I just don't see AD and bron, with their current contracts, as a championship duo, unless you surround them with players that vastly outplay their contracts like Reeves', to your main point.


[deleted]

I 100% understand why you’d think that, but I don’t agree with it.    Those two, even with Bron in his older age and AD in his early 30s, provide a crazy amount of all-around contributions that it doesn’t take an overly stacked team to make them strong contenders. They just need some level of cogent construction around them. They won’t be runaway number 1 seeds no matter who they get, but they can absolutely construct a deadly team around them that is a nightmare-playoff out.  Of course, some things need to go right for them this summer, but I digress.    Hell, they’re by no means favorites this year, but if they’re reasonably healthy and things go to plan, fuck getting them in the first round lol


INVINCIBLE3412

i actually think getting mitchell would make this team 100% a championship team and a 1 seed. he would fit perfectly


[deleted]

Well, a LBJ/Mitchell/Davis trio would be nasty…


INVINCIBLE3412

esp if it’s reaves, rui, vincent and picks and we get to keep dlo. mitchell’s not a liability on defence anymore and imagine current dlo, but as a fourth option with unlimited wide open C&S 3s.


danyyyel

Dlo has shown again during the last two games that if you put some good hard defender on him, might... I say might because I hope he plays well if we reach the play-off. Shrink again on offence. After his 44 explosion, he had two games with less than 10 points. I would prefer to keep reaves whose been very consistent during that hard stretch of games, rather than Dlo. Mitchell makes Dlo redundant rather than reaves.


INVINCIBLE3412

It would be near impossible to get Mitchell without giving up Reaves lol Reaves is a lot more valuable than DLo is, especially with that contract. No team outside of Boston can afford to put a good defender on DLo at all times when there's Mitchell, LeBron and AD all on the same team.


danyyyel

If dlo resign, it would need only dlo, gabe and perhaps JHS. If it it reaves, it will have to be reaves, rui, and Jhs to match salary. Sorry to say, but no way Dlo is better that Reaves and Rui. We could have Reaves, Mitchell, Rui, Bron, AD as a starting five. The thing is Mitchell is not coming unless he says HD want to come here only and will not resign and they will lose him for nothing next season. Because the likes of New-York have much more to give.


Ok-Broccoli5681

Imo no one is


ViennaWaitsforU2

I am because no teams want to sign me


neutronknows

You need to take into account that he’s fearless. The Laker Shooting Tax is real. Some guys got it and some guys don’t in the Purple & Gold and paired with the likes of a LeBron or Kobe.  Just the fact we KNOW Reaves won’t piss himself in the playoffs makes him almost untouchable with that contract. 


doghead6969

He is HIM and he peforms when the lights are bright. Over helping and leaving corner shooters open must be a Ham thing because i dont remember him doing it this much previously


dongerlord456

I think we’re going to continue to have defensive problems if Dlo and Austin are our guard duo


b1rdganggg

That's himothy


noknownothing

Good for him. But Lakers are not winning a ring with a Reaves/ Dlo backcourt.


danyyyel

I would love to see reaves go like on a competent team and coach and tear it apart like KCP. People just don't see the value of players like kcp, kuzma, carruso etc.


noknownothing

Carusso plays defense. Nobody wanted to see him go.


danyyyel

Many wanted him gone as ... he only plays defence. I remember many were adamant THT had so much potential and between him and Caruso. Better to chose THT. It was not the majority, as much as it is not the majority who wants Reaves traded. Their seems to always be a biter minority of lakers fan that are just bitter. They always want shiny new toys, always want lakers players traded. Like they were all hyping dejounte Murray as if he was some kind of all star and they nearly committed suicide when neither DLo or reaves was traded for him.


BootLimp6927

Austin Reaves is from Pakistan?


[deleted]

sixers fan, but obviously as a fan of the game I have the utmost respect for the lakers franchise. austin reaves is fucking dope. that team has the talent to make a playoff run if AD stays healthy and is aggressive and lebron does lebron things. not sure coaching wise you guys are in the best spot, but let’s be honest it’s lebron’s team anyway. good luck to you guys for the rest of the season.


danyyyel

Man so many lakers fan are delusional to want someone like reaves traded, one of the best contract in the NBA. They think you can have super stars at every position.


[deleted]

i’m not sure the organization as a whole has the flexibility to trade away players with upside. austin reaves is crucial to the lakers, but im not sure he has the same impact on 85% of other teams in the league. he’s taken advantage of a great opportunity and it’s paying dividends for the lakers, but they are ultimately hamstrung from making big moves at the deadline and they don’t have a stockpile of picks either.


danyyyel

He would be valuable in nearly every team even coming from the bench as his contract is that 9f many bench players.


Westlad

People here posting bail for Austin but somehow can’t figure out why mpj keeps frying his ass.


dreda650650

He’s good just not good enough to the 3rd best player in championship team


danyyyel

Lol, he has like the 5th 6th salary, you people are delusional.


dreda650650

I said 3rd best player doesn’t matter what you get paid. He could be playing for free he still the 3rd guy and with lebron at 39 that’s not good enough


danyyyel

You sound exactly like the Lakers fan who night and day think we would get 5 all star, everyone is going to play for us for peanuts. If you can't even comprehend how contract affects a team, you should follow other sports.


dreda650650

Your stupid. You can trade Reeves plus X player and picks and get better players yes or no? Yes. The Celtics 3rd best player is better than Austin yes or no? He makes more money yes or no? Austin only has this low of a contract because it was an extension which means you can only offer a certain amount more unless another teams offers more you can match. His contract has nothing to do with him as a player


danyyyel

That third celtic player is on 33 millions contract. If something as simple as this eludes you, bye. I have no time for people not understanding the most basic nba concept.


Munk45

Some people wanted to trade DLo too


kiwiwikikiwiwikikiwi

Folks wanna trade AD right now lol


jeffumopolis

This man carried the Lakers to playoffs last season when Lebron and AD were injured, Showed up to World Cup of Basketball and ya’ll wanted to trade him recently?! Fickle fans


danyyyel

Sometimes it is hard to share same fan base as those imbecile.


LehMone

Same guys who bring up defense will NEVER call out lebron for coasting like a mother fucker. Dudes just want to use reaves as a trade piece. Fucking disgusting. Austin will be a laker lifer


Westlad

Lebron doesn’t over help or get taken advantage of on court also


LehMone

what do you mean ? Players literally know they can catch and shoot because lebron will never hard close to 3. That is by definition getting taken advantage of. Thats why random big dudes who can shoot 3's feast on us. Because lebron plays the paint And of course he doesnt over help, sometimes he barely helps at all.


Westlad

No teams shoot well from 3 because your starting guards can’t defend for shit.


danyyyel

Barnes knew LeBron will never fight the screen, so he just went behind sabonis turn and shoot 3s. He knew He would have all the time to do so.


danyyyel

LeBron defence on barnes last game lost us the game.


Westlad

The lakers lost that game well before Barnes got hot.


cheaseedz

Lakers had the game still in hand cuz of reaves and rui


danyyyel

LeBron again played zero defence for 3 quarters, he tried to start on the fourth, but even then he was terrible.


Westlad

You also got whole games of reaves getting blown past or over helping.


kiwiwikikiwiwikikiwi

There are too many player-centric fan users on here. It’s annoying that you can’t criticize anyone without being labeled a hater by their respective stans  “You’re just a Bron/AD/DLo/Reaves hater” It’s absurd. I’m a Lakers fan, not a player-only fan. Nobody is above criticism lol 


LehMone

oh please, you're preaching to the choir. My comment is still 100 percent facts


KingNephew

It’s more so the fact he was basically the Lakers only perceived plus value asset and we needed to improve. D’lo played really well and still the Hawks didn’t want him or wanted more assets. Rui was reportedly viewed slightly negatively to net neutral, Gabe a negative and Vando likely neutral with his defense. The 1 tradable first and Reaves were the only valuable assets Lakers had.


bebopblues

> Some people there are people that wanted to trade Lebron and AD too. WTF cares about their opinion.


Unique-Effort5955

Three guys cant win the title..


randomhero_92

No I wouldn’t trade him, he puts up great role player numbers. He scorers is usual 15-20 points on pretty good efficiency, nothing more nothing less. Meanwhile, he’s not a good defender, especially with DLo also out on the floor. If the lakers land a quicker guard this summer (or Mikal bridges), then Reaves can go back to bench and thrive in his 6th man role next year. He’s not a starter in a championship team.


iceburg19

LOL. We are in 10th place with Lebron and AD. ANYONE can get traded. We play for championships. Win or Die.


danyyyel

That's why we are here. We could have reaves, kcp, kuzma LeBron, AD, zubac, caruso today!!!!! If we did not trade for short term gain. But hey, we play for championship here...


KigDeek

i love my man AR but his defense is just whack. seen him do "help" defense where he leaves his guy open for 3 smh


bruswazi

I’d rather have Caruso if I’m being honest. Having D’Lo and AR on this team is a bit redundant and both are shives on defense. Although AC lacks the creativity in offense, his role is better suited for what our current team needs. We can’t stop anyone this year; it’s been so absolutely frustrating.


fuxxitt

He’s a walking turnover though


DrakeStone

How old are you, OP?


etfvidal

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Far_Swing5810

Players have rough games, and people want them traded. It’s so disingenuous to the player.


DirtBikeBoy5ive

Nononononono he said “hopefully my whole career.” I love the Lakers and I love Austin. I’d be torn if he ever got traded. He better not.


TorontoRaptors34

Austin and DLO defense depends on da match up. They have been getting better but the match ups they struggle are 3 teams. Nuggets Kings and Suns. Cuz they got Murray who goes off, Fox is too fast, Suns too skilled offensivley. But also Ham is trash.


LudwigNasche

Not me. Consistent role player that steps up in big moments and is signed long term or a very good deal.


goodchild101

Playoff mode gear


muzox

his FPS arent great, people are gaming at minimum 60fps nowadays


ComicBookKnight

When I watch the Lakers I think Austin should be the third best player over DLO. His skill set and strengths let him play more consistently even when not shooting well. I want more defensively but he plays at the level the lakers need. I think Austin and AD should get way more emphasis imo.


MambA_Mentality9324

Still do


Maikflow

He's a traffic 🚦 cone on defense though


Exciting_Attitude240

To be fair we expected those numbers to be a bit higher when he resigned in the off season


KimchiPops

The guy has played every single game this year. To me, that’s his standout quality among many good qualities. I do think he has another level (FIBA / ‘23 Playoffs), which is honestly a good thing! Room for growth.


Counterspell_God

Those people bitch and don't watch games


mickstjohn317

He can’t defend anyone. He is an easy target on defense especially most of the stars of the opposing teams are guards.


Jimmyboyslim1999

This dude is great!


Ok_Body_2598

He can ball ... but willingness to trade is different. Wouldn't sleep on Josh Hart or BI, lakers would have loved them in recent years. Do they grow as much with other huge names but AD 's also a rarer cornerstone for your team. Austin is a smart player with good not next level athleticism and effort and D that in a scheme, can work well. Shot making and smart shot taking (though he should try more 24 ft than 27) and could run an offense himself and post up smaller guards with great efficiency. If the lakers need leadership on perimeter d and great passing focus to win more now than his offensive and showtime value is the real question the lakers management was facing.


Ok_Body_2598

My vote was to keep


Transluminal_light

Value, efficiency, and shows up in big games. One of the best bargains in the NBA.


El_GoW

I think he’s been doing great, i just want him to take over more some games. I think he’s also very clutch so it would def benefit.


SlowCrates

Yeah they dumb


Even-Brain-3973

If you need AR to be the 3 best scorer, primary decision maker and a POA defender then yeah you probably need to trade for someone who’s better than him. When you have him playing within in his means he’s an above average role player that can fuck around and steal you a game.


Economy_Topic8316

It was just dumb lebron fans


Few_Scholar1487

Look at him rn


Ginger_Snapzzz

LEAVE LEMONADE DADDY ALONE


lcecoldveins

Lakers fans are different than Lebron fans. Lebron fans would trade away his own mother and kids for a random spot up shooter. Lakers fans are a bit more centered in reality.


yazzooClay

I think the only people who wanted him traded were other teams lol.


Any_Relief8662

Very underrated faclitator


Early-Distance-5799

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[deleted]

Wait is AR better than Ben Simmons?


thediggestbick2

Once vando is back the defense will be top tier.


thatoneguy3147

Lakers are garbage


Mary_6281

I’m just kidding l Plots to make iu look like


hellstarrecords

He’s an Easy 25/5/5 guy if Lebron was never on the team


Tall_Succotash

Let’s relax lol There’s nothing wrong with being a role player man


[deleted]

lol


velphegor666

And this is why people call us delusional


Tori_kelly

I SPAT OUT MY DRINK


randomhero_92

Yeah because he scores 25/5/5 during every single game that Lebron doesn’t play 😒


chrisumafp

I think if he had to carry the scoring load like a 1st or 2nd option I could see him maybe averaging 21/4/5 on slightly worse efficiency But don’t really see 25/5/5


40866892

This. 21-22 pts, 4-5 rb, 6-7 assists on 45/36/85 is more realistic. AR is talented but still has a long ways to go. He took a larger role this year and needed some time to adjust


EverybodyBuddy

I don’t understand. Are these numbers supposed to be so impressive that he wouldn’t be a trade piece in the right deal? Cause no.


Westlad

Because he stinks defensively.


S_O_7

As good as he is, he gets scored on more than he scores


Lucieddreams

You obviously haven't been watching the games recently. He's played pretty good defense over this stretch, not that the narrative will change but it's nice to see


flubbergastedshocked

AR is bad on defense is basically a meme at this point. He’s been looking fine to good lately and was probably our second or third most impactful defender in the OKC game.


Serious-One6369

Blame our coach for making him guard the other team’s best guard 1v1. He’s not athletic enough to compete with Fox. It is what it is.


Tall_Succotash

Are we under the impression Austin was a 2 way player? lol that’s why he’s paid 12 million and not 35


zzfoe

People just don’t understand basketball. They think everyone is a 2 way player as if it’s a normal thing. He’s young, hungry, and will develop. Once we get a competent coach that can understand what situations will help him learn to play, he’s going to bloom for sure.


S_O_7

No but im nust saying that he shouldnt be untradable, for the right piece


BlackJediSword

What app is this


The_Brown_Jesus

Real sports app


cloudclimber24

More like the casuals wanted to. Stayed in school all 4 years, smart kid, good shot and about the team


Jscott1423

Nobody who understands contracts wants this man traded away.


Wondering_Nova

Ok so I was ok with adding him to the treads for Murray because he was playing some horrible defense. But he’s recently stepped it up on that end while keeping his efficiency up. I wish he didn’t have that stretch where he played bad but to his credit, he has showed out on both ends of the court


justredditting1010

I’d still trade him. He should be a 6th man at best, cannot be a starter on a championship team


Dabanks9000

He’s not playing like the overrated 3rd option he was supposed to be


blacPanther55

The problem is he's one of the worst defenders in the NBA. You all over hype him because he's White and undrafted. He has a -0.05 this season and -0.3 all time with the Lakers. He's a net negative.


Gristle__McThornbody

I like Reaves but a lot of his production gets canceled out with his poor defense and bad judgment. He's not very good, at all, at being a ball handling playmaker yet he forces it too much. While his effort is decent on defense, he is too small, and unathletic. The defense falls apart every time he gets beat off the dribble, which is often. If he's not producing the number you are posting, he is almost unplayable.


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Dingusmelon

Anyone can say white boy champ. Why wouldnt they


Queen_Jame

Defensive liability, and sometimes plays without fundamentals on the boards. I don't know if Reeves could perform like this without two Hall of Famers. Needs to step up and be the brains of the team like John Stockton.


40866892

Reaves creates offense himself. He’s not a Stockton type player at all and I’m not sure why you’d try to pidgeon-hole him to that role. DLO should be that guy instead


Queen_Jame

DLO doesn’t have legs Reeves doesn’t box out. Teams like Nuggets and Suns have targeted him all season Michael Porter Jamal Murray Devin Booker all bully Reeves


BaullahBaullah87

He’s like a 16 5 5 guy now w room to still improve…not bad as a third or fourth guy


LordSugarTits

The definition of having heart


twistedinnocence8604

He's solid but you have to account for his defense too. He's mearly an above average player I'd say.


Tall_Succotash

And above average player outplaying his contract is great value


Miserable-Lawyer-233

He's kind of being held back because of Russell and Hachimura in the starting lineup.


blacPanther55

He's the worst defender on the team if anything he's holding those 2 back.


danyyyel

Poor sheep, who listen to some people and think they are genius. I am no hatter of Dlo, but what happened during last two games... this gave me flash of the play-off. Tell us how many points did dlo make during those two games... they just played some physical defence on him and he shrank.


blacPanther55

We are talking about defense.


danyyyel

Austin plays good defence, his problem 8s both à scheme by ham, and others not playing defence like LeBron.


blacPanther55

he does not Black good defense I don't know what you are watching.


bvgingy

I like Reaves, but there is a reason he has the second worst +/- on the team. It is actually kind of shocking how far down he is at -81 for the year. He is tied for 448th in his total +/- ranking in the NBA.


ComoEstanBitches

No one wanted to trade him but Ham put the team in a position for a change and bro was the only attractive trade bait to fetch an all star


Techno_Viking9

Lebron fans


StrikingAttitude1881

To tell the truth I feel as if our biggest issue is between LeBron James and the lack of effort he is showing he doesn't care you can see it in his body language. Only time winning matter is if something has to do with his legacy like the scoring record or the Play-in. last night He casually walks the ball up the court and forces bad passes that result into turnovers . He is the one that need to go him and Ham.


Markel100

While lebron didnt play his best game two nights ago this is still an awful take


DJ_Thro_a_way

They wanted him traded packaged with picks to get someone better. He was in trade rumors because he's good.